is julius randle good
― J0rdan S., Friday, 4 March 2016 22:10 (eight years ago) link
no
― lag∞n, Friday, 4 March 2016 22:10 (eight years ago) link
i think he's good. been figuring it out 2nd half the season. slowed himself down a bit. Russell too.
― unleashed profanity-laced tirade (Spottie), Friday, 4 March 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link
Georges Niang Cat?
― Sorry To Be The Bearer Of Bad Poos (Leee), Friday, 4 March 2016 22:32 (eight years ago) link
how bad is simmons shooting no one knows since hes never shot
― lag∞n, Friday, 11 March 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
well the first google result for "ben simmons jump shot" is Ben Simmons might be shooting with the wrong hand so that's probably not good.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 11 March 2016 16:26 (eight years ago) link
good lord
Simmons has attempted 265 non-jumpers so far this year. Despite being a left-handed shooter, only 10 of his non-jumpers were released with his left hand, 39 were with both hands, and 216 were with his right hand.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 11 March 2016 16:27 (eight years ago) link
thats plain weird
― lag∞n, Friday, 11 March 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link
maybe its cause hes from down under
― lag∞n, Friday, 11 March 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link
*sits ben simmons down, puts arm over shoulder*
"ben, do you think you might be.....right-handed?"
― call all destroyer, Friday, 11 March 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link
lmao
― lag∞n, Friday, 11 March 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link
lol harsh http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-ben-simmons-isn-t-the-top-prospect-in-the-2016-nba-draft-190023711.html
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link
that article seems a bit unfair in a specifically woj way but also ingram does seem better?
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2016 14:56 (eight years ago) link
yeah im liking ingram but simmons seem frequently utterly brilliant too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link
the total non shooting is obvs a huge red flag
also like, ingram could be really fucking good
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
i'm willing to give simmons a bit of a pass on the shooting stuff since it seems like he doesn't even have the basics -- i.e. which hand is your dominant hand -- down. like if he could even build up to a lebron-esque game of finishing very well at the rim with a midrange jumper that comes and goes and a passable three point shot then he should be a star given the rest of his game. but lebron is also a crazy unique individual so i see where the concerns about simmons' make up come in, it just seems a bit early to fault him.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2016 16:26 (eight years ago) link
but it will be really tough to make the number one pick either way
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link
the nets not having a lottery pick until 2019 is still so unreal to me
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link
v cool B-)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link
You know who Simmons reminds me of is Greg Monroe.
― Sorry To Be The Bearer Of Bad Poos (Leee), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link
was there a heated argument about monroe on this board in the past few days or did i dream that?
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 21:18 (eight years ago) link
it happened about 24 hours ago!
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link
good profile of a guy who was probably really hard to profile (it's kawhi btw): http://www.si.com/nba/2016/03/15/kawhi-leonard-spurs-tim-duncan-gregg-popovich-tony-parker-manu-ginobili
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 00:58 (eight years ago) link
oops wrong thread
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 01:11 (eight years ago) link
https://vine.co/v/MjQATWDgZIa
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 04:15 (eight years ago) link
ingram made an extremely nice block
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link
there it is https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/710530512201207808
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
ingram is built like a damn spider
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link
hes v thin but he has a p big frame like his shoulders are way wider than durants
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link
yeah was just thinking that. he could have like a rondo type of frame when he puts a little weight on
― Spottie, Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link
it's hard for me to look at him and not think "this guy is going to be very very good in the nba"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 March 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link
he def seems like hes going to be very very good
― lag∞n, Thursday, 17 March 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link
draft xpress currently has him at #1
striaght up rooting for duke to make the champ game so i cn keep watching ingram
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link
people haven't seemed to realize that coach k shifted duke to the one and done model and as such has had a bunch of really likable ballers in the last few years
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link
was just thinking that
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link
like traditionally basically created the one dimensonal hateable white but grayson allen is all threes and crazy drives to the basket i love watching him
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link
duke basically created*
cant beat kentuky gotta join em
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link
yeah and UNC has basically swung back the other direction, it's interesting
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link
ingram was basically seen as a UNC lock for several years but ended up going w/ duke in the end
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:20 (eight years ago) link
for a while it seemed like going w a second tier team that ran nba offense and didnt have other stars was the way to juice draft stock but calipari changed the math via putting 6 guys in the first round every year
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link
allens got 22 w 2 left in the 1st
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link
i haven't watched him at all, is he good or just college good
― k3vin k., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
hell be a pro but prob not that great
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link
tho when u can shoot anything is possible
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link
hes projected as a bubble 1st rounder now
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:35 (eight years ago) link
wait hold on there's another plumlee?
― k3vin k., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link
theres an endless supply of plumlees
― lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link
I figure he'll be taken somewhere between picks 10 and 20.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 27 March 2016 01:00 (eight years ago) link
no way he lasts to 10
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 March 2016 01:15 (eight years ago) link
wasnt damian a senior taken in the last 5 years?
― Clay, Sunday, 27 March 2016 01:23 (eight years ago) link
nah jr. might have been a fourth year jr. tho?
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 March 2016 01:24 (eight years ago) link
huh yeah i think he was 22, figured he was a sr.
― Clay, Sunday, 27 March 2016 01:25 (eight years ago) link
he was a 4-year player, he's more or less a senior and belongs in the same discussion as the rest of those guys
― k3vin k., Sunday, 27 March 2016 01:32 (eight years ago) link
feel like hield should at least be as good as mccollum. fwiw mccollum also just had an insane shooting year as a senior.
― circles, Sunday, 27 March 2016 03:28 (eight years ago) link
some guys are late bloomers whatcha gonna do
― Clay, Sunday, 27 March 2016 03:41 (eight years ago) link
a single season can be fluky tho especially when youre a grown man playing against teens
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 March 2016 05:47 (eight years ago) link
like this is dumb
http://i.imgur.com/4mq4yS1.png
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 March 2016 05:48 (eight years ago) link
he cld be a great shooter he cld also be just a good shooter
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 March 2016 05:52 (eight years ago) link
lol that red trendline really illuminates that he got better then regressed then improved again huh we are truly in the age of data
― Clay, Sunday, 27 March 2016 06:09 (eight years ago) link
its a testament to his remarkable work ethic
― lag∞n, Sunday, 27 March 2016 06:20 (eight years ago) link
hield moved up from 10 to 5 in chad fords 100
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 March 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link
or maybe that was xpress that had him at 10, anyway hes at 7 there now
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 March 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link
he shd give tip steph if he goes top 5
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 March 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link
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― lag∞n, Monday, March 28, 2016 4:41 PM (17 minutes ago)
check back in a few years to see where he ends up
― k3vin k., Monday, 28 March 2016 20:59 (eight years ago) link
haha
― lag∞n, Monday, 28 March 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link
celtics ~30% chance of getting one of the top two picks http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/4/14/11429164/updated-boston-celtics-2016-nba-draft-odds
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 April 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link
Fuck the Celtics.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 15 April 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link
rude
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 April 2016 20:47 (eight years ago) link
As a nuggets and celtics fan I wish this draft was better but maybe more international guys get in
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 17 April 2016 22:57 (eight years ago) link
nugs are gonna have to either make some sort of move or draft and stash, they're gonna have too many dudes
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 April 2016 23:23 (eight years ago) link
they've been drafting well
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 April 2016 23:36 (eight years ago) link
The nuggets def have too many players... They're at least 2 deep at every position other than PG (and Augustin isn't half bad). although that includes 2 SFs who are always injured. Maybe time to move faried.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 23 April 2016 23:00 (eight years ago) link
wait david thorpe sold me on simmons http://es.pn/1VeiQRM
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 21 May 2016 00:55 (eight years ago) link
wow, he is really high on him. as much as people have talked about length in recent years, it's interesting that simmons is notably not long for a 6'10" guy.
― circles, Saturday, 21 May 2016 03:59 (eight years ago) link
did not even realize he was that tall
― Spottie, Saturday, 21 May 2016 04:12 (eight years ago) link
yeah, maybe not, different sources have different numbers, and he didn't do the official combine measurements.
― circles, Saturday, 21 May 2016 04:25 (eight years ago) link
he does not look 6'10" irl, might be 6'8"
― micah, Saturday, 21 May 2016 08:48 (eight years ago) link
Concerns about Simmons?
The knock on Simmons as a shooter is somewhat overrated. Let's not forget that another do-it-all type of NBA star was not a good shooter in college. In two seasons, Kawhi Leonard shot 20.5 percent and 29.1 percent from 3, yet is a career 39-percent shooter in the NBA -- making 44 percent this season.
Simmons has a good-looking stroke, but he never looked as if he was willing to take 3-pointers, and was hesitant to take a lot of jump shots, period. Perhaps this was due to a coaching decision, as he was able to drive by or pass over most defenders. In the NBA, it is fair to expect he will shoot a lot of 3s and be at least good at it, in time.
[waves hands until they fall off]
― lag∞n, Monday, 23 May 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link
yeah i am not sure how you get from 'he's not a good shooter' to 'he will shoot a lot of 3s and be good at it' that quickly
― ciderpress, Monday, 23 May 2016 00:05 (eight years ago) link
but simmons form is kinda terrible
― micah, Monday, 23 May 2016 01:02 (eight years ago) link
Still think this draft is terrible. This is the draft where I'm gonna be that guy finally.
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 June 2016 00:05 (eight years ago) link
is bumping this thread during the national anthem of game 7 like one of those lebron subtweets where he tweets about a game being shown on nba tv while the warriors are disemboweling a team on tnt
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2016 00:06 (eight years ago) link
anyway this draft is terrible, the celtics got screwed
blazers have no picks this draft. I am pretty non-committal about it. it will be interesting to see who gets simmons and whether he is worth his salt.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 20 June 2016 03:48 (eight years ago) link
Absolutely
― Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 June 2016 03:54 (eight years ago) link
Who would you take with the second pick in this draft?
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:43 (six years ago) link
guerschon yabusele
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:52 (six years ago) link
in all seriousness the top 3 are looking like sure fire allstars, simmons is obvs the best and ingram and brown are looking pretty even, id prob take brown if i had to choose but ingram cld easily turn out better he was a total revelation taking over ballhandling duties for the lakers this year, murray goes 4th then everyone else is looking pretty rough
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:57 (six years ago) link
o wait i missed taurean prince i like him too sabonis and brogdon are dece a few other guys will prob pan out to some extent, anyway its prob rare to have the best three players actually go in the top 3 spots but it looks like thats what happened here
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 05:06 (six years ago) link