Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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DJP - the twitter you posted went protected. Anyone screngrab it?

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link

no screen but:

Scare-a-dino Hatchet ‏@taradinoc
@ClickHole A fine parody of how Gawker et al portray GG. Might be too subtle for some readers, though. Can't wait to see the updates!

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link

aah. Sigh.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link

omg

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 17:06 (nine years ago) link

heh

example (crüt), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

max going ham. good show.

goole, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link

Fondly recalling when I was perplexed by reddit's nerd based misogyny, now it's a movement :<

bnw, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link

Transparent and documented though it was, the obsessive campaign worked. Mercedes-Benz—listed on the site as a former partner, and therefore a target—briefly paused its ads on a network that serves ads to Gawker. I've been told that we've lost thousands of dollars already, and could potentially lose thousands more, if not millions. Consequently, the editorial director of Gawker Media, Joel Johnson, took to the front page of Gawker to clarify that Sam Biddle does not want to bully anyone, and that Gawker Media as a company and institution is not pro-bullying. (Let's note here that the admitted goal of our Gamergate trolls is not to eke an apology out of Sam, or the company, but to literally put us out of business entirely.)

amazing the years of gawker pissing numerous ppl + groups off and it was the gamers that figured out how to hurt it

Mordy, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

max otm

resulting post (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link

this whole thing has become like the "most photographed barn in america" of the internet.

ryan, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link

the one two punch of johnson + max sort of has and eats the cake at once though, no?

everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link

this whole thing has become like the "most photographed barn in america" of the internet.

― ryan, Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:56 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha otm

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link

max's post is rad but i think this is pretty on point: https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/525018087532539905

JoeStork, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

pretty sure that qualifies as bullying

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 23:23 (nine years ago) link

apologies for apologies

mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link

Gamergate vs. Gawker... I'm so torn.

jmm, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link

Just glad someone is finally stepping up and saying bullying is bad.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link

just consider for a second tho, what if its not?

lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 October 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link

Show me the evidence and verify

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 22 October 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

just consider for a second tho, what if its not?

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:54 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QwwCgiOrblg/TpdZduT0LdI/AAAAAAABGJw/3sDn3zdqPqA/s1600/owen%2Bwilson%2Btenenbaums.jpg

horseshoe, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link

my role model tbh

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:08 (nine years ago) link

Is there a good up-to-date summary of what gamergate is exactly? I get the sense that it involves a lot of basement dwellers rage-fapping into their mesh shorts while trolling women in a hostile and threatening manner. I'm not really interested in gaming or "gamer culture" so it's off my radar aside from just being a word that crosses my view a lot now.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link

wired et al seem to post a new one of those sorts of summaries every day

Clay, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:14 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/colincidence/status/524631128482021377

jmm, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:16 (nine years ago) link

At this point it just seems like a forum raid done on a larger and more personally damaging scale

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link

i stand with #gamergate against the evils of slap bass tbh

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:18 (nine years ago) link

Are forum raids just 90s things

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link

good investigation into the nasty lil places gmrgt sprang from http://gawker.com/these-are-the-creepy-4chan-successors-behind-gamergates-1648966614

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link

learning about w1zardchan kinda messed my day up

Clay, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link

ok, I get it now, this is worse than I pictured it

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link

ya btw no one read that link unless u want to be very sad abt the world

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:25 (nine years ago) link

GG is crowdsourced trolling.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link

every link I am now getting to about this and other related/similar things is making my stomach knot up. I feel like I want to keep my daughter off the internet. I hope the law and tech evolve in a way that makes it more feasible to give real consequences to these wastes of human life.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

it's like mobilizing a bunch of wannabe elliot rodgers types, ISIS style

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link

learning about w1zardchan kinda messed my day up

otm

woof, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:29 (nine years ago) link

every link I am now getting to about this and other related/similar things is making my stomach knot up.

Yep. I haven't been contributing much to this thread because for a lot of the time I've been feeling genuinely quite sick and afraid every time I read something about it. The Clickhole article was the first time I've actually had a proper hearty laugh at the situation in what feels like a long time.

emil.y, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:35 (nine years ago) link

Serious Q: how common is this sort of severe internet harassment for women with an internet presence? Is it primarily women in *chan-friendly* fields like gaming or is this just standard now? I mean not just getting hate comments but actually being attacked in more serious ways like the woman who had her games' metacritic score bombed, got personal threats, had her company targeted, etc.? Like hate mail doesn't seem like a new thing but this stuff does.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:38 (nine years ago) link

SeanieSkykiller ‏@SeanieSkykiller 4h4 hours ago

@ClickHole Yes that whole last paragraph where you connect #GamerGate with harassment has no sources, why?

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link

Serious Q: how common is this sort of severe internet harassment for women with an internet presence? Is it primarily women in *chan-friendly* fields like gaming or is this just standard now?

In gaming it's very common

BTW, after Felicia Day posted a blog about how she has been afraid to speak out she got doxxed within an hour

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

I have plenty of female friends in the music world who have been harassed to the point of death/rape threats. My personal presence online is super bland and fairly restricted but I know that even that isn't necessarily a barrier to harassment.

xposts to Hurting

emil.y, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link

(To clarify, not "harassed to the point of death, also rape threats" but "harassed to the point of death threats and rape threats".)

emil.y, Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I have read about specific incidents before but it is suddenly hitting me how pervasive this is.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link

It used to be massively common even a long time ago in places like IRC chatrooms. If you went online with an obvious female name, BAM instant skeeveball PMs. And if you rejected/told them to GTFO you'd be called slut/lesbian/i know where u live/etc/start another chatroom bagging you out etc.

Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:05 (nine years ago) link

This is basically why I never ever play MMORPGs or other online linked gamnig - i just CBF dealing with this shite.

Gumbercules? I love that guy! (Trayce), Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:05 (nine years ago) link

study circulated a lil
while ago scientists made a bunch of twitter bots that all tweeted the same stuff, the ones with overtly female profiles got ~100x more harassment

lag∞n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:10 (nine years ago) link

The new phenomenon mostly seems to be the coupling of this kind of harassment with the power to actually do anything beyond say offensive stuff.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link

jesus christ, doxxing felicia day like ten seconds after she spoke thoughtfully and honestly about her past trouble with stalkers. there isn't an epithet scathing enough to describe these assholes.

you little affront to god (reddening), Thursday, 23 October 2014 01:53 (nine years ago) link

@tinybaby 35m35 minutes ago
@AdrianChen @max_read congratulations to Adrian Chen on accepting his new position as head of #GamerGate

lol

Clay, Thursday, 23 October 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link


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