Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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shout out to the cartoon nazi hunk in grey bathrobe, still dunno what's up with that

goole, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link

really interesting to me that these internet new-old-right types have resurrected the english civil war as the key political hinge still operating in the present: themselves as the royalists/cavaliers (carefree, traditional, honorable, and doomed) and their enemy, the whole international liberal order, as puritan/roundhead (grim, fanatical, genocidal, both heretical and obsessed with heresy). they don't really mean it metaphorically either.

xp lol perfect punchline

― goole, Monday, October 20, 2014 4:37 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no joke i assume these guys have some strong opinions on circumcision too

max, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

now that i had not considered...

the venn diagram has overlaps with so many other annoying internet scenes (some way more than others of course): paleo, crossfit, bitcoin, "manliness," "makers." i never figured video games would be one of them.

goole, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link

REACTOPUNKS

💪😈⚠️ (DJP), Monday, 20 October 2014 21:03 (nine years ago) link

liked their first album, etc etc

Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 October 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

Oh man, that dude's blog:

Tired of the lies?

I don't send out marketing crap. I give you raw truth and blog updates; that's it.

JoeStork, Monday, 20 October 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

just a little too long for a user name but all is not lost: good candidate for a new board description imo!

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 20 October 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link

wint @dril · 7 hours ago
I don't send out marketing crap. I give you raw truth and blog updates; that's it.

lag∞n, Monday, 20 October 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link

Publisher’s Statement Regarding Mike Cernovich’s Twitter Conduct
OCTOBER 20, 2014 BY DANGER & PLAY 41 COMMENTS

Mike Cernovich of Danger & Play Publishing has posted many things on Twitter. Some of his Tweets are out of line. Some make sense in context. Whatever the case, Mike Cernovich owns his past and accepts personal responsibility for his Tweets.

Mr. Cernovich is not going to explain all of his Tweets. If you think something he wrote was wrong, you have that right. Unlike the SJWs, Mr. Cernovich does not believe in thoughtcrime. You have the right to hate him or love him or even ignore him.

Mr. Cernovich behaved no differently from Gawker and the Social Justice Warriors attacking him. We expect higher standards from Mr. Cernovich.

lag∞n, Monday, 20 October 2014 21:56 (nine years ago) link

chance he wrote that himself expressed as a percentage 100%

lag∞n, Monday, 20 October 2014 22:02 (nine years ago) link

"or even ignore him..."

you ~don't~ say

resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 20 October 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link

lawl

http://i.imgur.com/ve3bqPv.png

lag∞n, Monday, 20 October 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

first response hall of fame

https://twitter.com/MomsAgainstGam/status/524324748105224192

goole, Monday, 20 October 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link

like first 10 responses tbh

goole, Monday, 20 October 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link

Baldwin was born in Winnetka, Illinois and studied at New Trier Township High School East in Winnetka.[4] He has three children with his wife, Ami.[5] He has no relation to the Baldwin brothers.

Politically, he has been a registered Democrat since 1980,[6] but states that he re-examined his views after being given a copy of David Horowitz's book Radical Son.[7] He now considers himself a "small government conservative libertarian",[8] and has contributed to The Huffington Post[9] and Big Hollywood.[10]

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 20 October 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link

the fact he was into Horovitz is pretty much the icing on the cake

⌘-B (mh), Monday, 20 October 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

I had always just assumed that he was a brother. He looks like he could fit into that crew.

how's life, Monday, 20 October 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link

the handle gives it away, @momsagainstgam
What'd all them gams do to you? Why I oughta...

Nhex, Monday, 20 October 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link

yo max, is it true you and Biddle are into fedoras? https://twitter.com/Bhillyfitch/status/524333718496743424

⌘-B (mh), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:13 (nine years ago) link

lol @ baldwin having gone to new trier

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/524296943162245120

deej loaf (D-40), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link

someone needs to write a book about gamergate and bitcoin so we can discuss the intellectual development of the 21st century teen

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 00:25 (nine years ago) link

Twitter death threats have consequences! http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/20/7024585/gabe-newell-death-threat-paranautical-activity-steam-valve (Not actually GG related)

Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link

"This being a project I spent years of my life on, I was very frustrated by this mistake [Valve] made, so I tweeted a series of tweets calling them incompetent that eventually ended in me saying 'I swear I'm gonna fucking kill gabe' or something," Maulbeck said in an email to Polygon. "A statement I obviously didn't mean, but nonetheless was totally unacceptable and driven entirely by the heat of frustration I was feeling at the time."

Maulbeck let loose a series of vitriolic tweets, calling Valve "incompetent" and expressing anger at Steam's "awful fucking monopoly." Maulbeck then allegedly said in a since-deleted tweet, "I am going to kill gabe newell [sic]. He is going to die."

lol this impotent rage is extremely good stuff

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 00:53 (nine years ago) link

what a maroon

Nhex, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 01:09 (nine years ago) link

lol @ cernovich crying death threat after some rando called him a dude-bro that should be "put down"

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 01:14 (nine years ago) link

Speaking of white supremacists/Lost Causes, the Calavier/Roundhead charge got tossed around a bunch during the American Civil War by Confederate politicos, who tried to connect their war as the continuation as the fight against Norman invaders.

Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link

Paranautical Activity is available through other digital distribution means, like Desura and the Humble Store, but Maulbeck lamented that the game sold 12 copies on non-Steam platforms today.

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 02:54 (nine years ago) link

The number of creeps I have met who attended New Trier is astonishingly high.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 09:03 (nine years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_2ioBC-4wU

Matt Binder interviewing Brianna Wu

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 11:32 (nine years ago) link

http://www.reddit.com/r/gamergate/

Lmao

, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:18 (nine years ago) link

their absolute inability to read Sam Biddle's bullying comments as anything other than bullying - either they lack any sense of normal human interaction, or they're taking this as a threat in very very bad faith

Terrific ribbon, Moe (stevie), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link

I think in the big picture joking about bullying on twitter, especially to these rubes who have no sense of context or irony, was a bad move, in retrospect

but holy shit are these people happy to take anything that they can conform to their narrative and hammer on it

⌘-B (mh), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:17 (nine years ago) link

xp

it was an unfortunate tweet tho' - obvious joke that hit a nerve (ie past or present experience) with a chunk of the sincere useful-idiot crowd & the cynics are exploiting it – they seem to be obsessively reframing a lot of this as bullying by SJWs now.

woof, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link

they were shooting at the boss and nothing was happening then the boss opened his biddle-eye and the eye pulsed red so they shot him in the biddle-eye and now mercedes benzes are crashing into gawker

woof, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link

Can I tell Mercedes that I will never buy their cars if they withdraw advertising from Gawker? Does the bullying work in that direction too?

Terrific ribbon, Moe (stevie), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link

Is the Mercedes thing even real?

how's life, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:56 (nine years ago) link

Dear Mercedes, I have been a big fan of your cars for many years and have bought seven to twelve of them for my video games, however I never will gain, this is your last warning

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link

I really can't tell - the gg merc and bmw claims are noisy, but Gawker's denials are pretty clear.

woof, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link

Mercedes, stop supporting bullying or we will release your address and home phone number online

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link

The website of a Danish newspaper published an article on GamerGate, and goddammit, there's a guy spouting all the usual gamer bullshit. "#NotYourShield" The threats against Sarkeesian used SJW language, etc. I really hoped we didn't have guys like that.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

In the comments. He is talking shit in the comments on the article.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:14 (nine years ago) link

total tl;dr preaching-to-choir post here but

their absolute inability to read Sam Biddle's bullying comments as anything other than bullying plus their inability to see their new meathead idol's glee for punching people (embarrassing/blackmailing people into being punched by him, no less), and putting people down AS bullying; the total free pass of GamerGate is well aware Nero hated us. Know what we like about him tho'? He actually did journalism. (reply to the Binder tweet D-40 linked to) while gnashing teeth over every perceived insult from any woman, games journalist, developer, all of whom are clearly SJW and not real gamer enough...

(srsly who wakes up one morning and goes "you know, I am not into games and totally don't even play them but I'm going to start thinking about them in a lot of depth, possibly even for a living" -- apparently everyone who ever thought the second half of that sentence, according to GamerGate)

...I have spent altogether too long reading my way round this rabbithole over the past week month (ugh) and I should probably stop. Mostly because it's a poor use of time which could be more constructively spent doing pretty much anything, including playing video games; but also because minds like that will not be changed, and finally I don't need to feed any pity or empathy for the imagined "moderates" or "useful idiots" any more, because if you can't see any problem with those mental contortions I. Don't. Even. etc

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:15 (nine years ago) link

"embarrassing/blackmailing people into being punched by him" ok this is silly. making a big fucking song and dance about... oh who the fuck even cares. equal parts playground bully and every nasty manipulative stereotype implied by GG's "don't stick your dick in crazy" chorus and they don't even care because libertarian+lulz.

right, time to ignore it and get more coffee.

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:19 (nine years ago) link

a passing spacecadet, I feel we have both spent today reading and getting infuriated by exactly the same tweets!

Terrific ribbon, Moe (stevie), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:21 (nine years ago) link

I wrote a long response to the Danish guy. There were people who knew nothing about it, and liked his comments. Hope I won't get attacked.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link


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