bayonetta

bit of history for those that don't know: this is the next game by platinum games, the development studio set up by shinji mikami (director on the "capcom five", viewtiful joe, p.n.03, killer7, dead phoenix, resident evil 4) and other members of capcom's clover studio. clover are videogame golden boys turned lost boys: funded by capcom they developed viewtiful joe 1 & 2, okami, and god hand. when the studio was dissolved lots of the talent left to form platinum. they have since been working on delivering four games for sega: madworld, infinite space, an undisclosed title helmed by mikami and BAYONETTA. so the pedigree is ridiculously strong then and my anticipation is its equal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFsrQmy9psA

u can play it w/one hand u know

I'm looking forward to it. For whatever it's worth, this is directed by the same guy who created Devil May Cry, Hideki Kamiya, and does look very much like it plays like those game. Very much!

Apparently the current ps3 build plays like shit. I am sad :(

just picked up all of the ps2 devil may crys for £10; have never played through these before, so going to binge before bayonetta drops

directed by kamiya as well

she has GUNS ON HER FUCKING FEET and she looks like a datass.jpg version of tina fey

the first 15mins of this are EPIC

I desperately want them to polish up the ps3 version because this looks like everything I've ever wanted in a stupid action game. Have you seen the video where she's quad-wielding rocket launchers, with two strapped to her feet and two used both for shooting and as BEATIN' STICKS?

some apartheid shit for sure:

"With Bayonetta, we created the Xbox 360 version of the game first, and then handed off all the data and other assets to SEGA so they could begin the process of porting Bayonetta to the PS3, giving them advice regarding the porting process along the way and overseeing the progress to ensure that the PS3 version would be the best it could be."

i don't see what apartheid has to do with that at all

I ws just being flip; apartheid as in segregation, 'apartness'

OK I USED THE WRONG WORD ON THE INTERNET I'M SORRY OK

Oh goody, a pre-emptive "don't blame us if/when it sucks, that was Sega's responsibility." Not expecting anything good to come of this.

And isn't it kind of weird for a high-profile game to halfass the PS3 version quite so much? Aside from Ghostbusters, all the big titles this year have been pretty much even, with maybe slightly better antialiasing or higher-res textures on the xbox, but emphasis on "slightly."

tgs trailer

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/14253676/bayonetta/videos/tgs09_bayonetta_trl_trailer_92309.html;jsessionid=19gg0c9vewunn

love the accent

Scored 10 10 10 10 in Famatsu for whatever that's worth

Famitsu, that is

is that confirmed now?

via the usual gaf thread. also 9 9 9 9 for Sin & Punishment
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=377463

This is a weird list in many ways:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famitsu#Perfect_scores

Still, it's enough to tip this over from a maybe to a definite buy, for me.

guns on her feet

just played the demo for this. basically if you like the devil may cry/gof of war style of games then you'll love this. can't stand 'em myself.

i would play the shit out of GOLF OF WAR

Kratos all in a pink polo shirt, two golf clubs on flaming chains, quick time events to sink a putt FROM THE BACK OF A RAMPAGING MANTICORE

um so the alt.costumes are a bit o_O

^^not wanting this any less!11

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/bayonetta-demo-due-next-tuesday

I can't shake the feeling that the person who gave Bayonetta an Edge 10 will have their fever break and they will be like " jesus, I dont remember much of what I did at work last week. Hope it was nothing too crazy."

Woah, this demo. I don't have a clue what's going on, it's just ridiculous. Fun tho.

"I don't have a clue what's going on" sums it up for me.

yeah this is a mess, but maybe a great mess? either that or something that i will get 45 minutes into and then get pissed.

voice acting is HILARIOUSLY BAD tho

Why is it that the xbox version of this is supposed to be so much better than the PS3?

it was developed by platinum for SEGA exclusively on 360 and all code was handed over to SEGA's own in-house team to handle the port to PS3; platinum have had nothing to do w/development of the PS3 version iirc besides some advisory work

from what i've heard, the 360 version has a much better framerate and is a little shinier

ya i'll wait for god of war

pause

PS3 loading times are also alleged to be both frequent and abominable

I caved and bought this and love everything except the loading times

are you on 360 or ps3? Still haven't got round to buying mine yet.

ps3, sadly. even without a hands-on frame of reference, the loading screens seem pretty damn omnipresent. luckily the gameplay is outright magnificent (and keeps getting better as more stuff is introduced).

buying bayonetta for ps3 is the most /yes cobo thing poss imo

u r the tru hardcore james

as for me, I've decided to just pick games up when they hit $20/£15 these days - still waiting to play red faction, batman, borderlands and ass creed 2

lol. i died twice during the demo, but my gf got through the whole thing by mashing y & b non-stop, completely ignoring the analog sticks & dodge button.

this sounds worse than god of war

i'm siding with this guy even though i haven't even seen the demo
http://feeds.wired.com/~r/Gamelife/~3/6aM2oZacu-0/

somethin' to that ^

the only reason i've yet to really investigate the game is because i hate the name, the look of the character, and just the general aesthetics. pretty gross, tbh.

The slapstick and profanity are supposed to feel over-the-top, but there’s not a single genuine laugh to be had

This is just utterly wrong, I've lolled my way through every cut scene so far.

If Kamiya’s intent was to create in Bayonetta a grotesque over-amplification of all the worst and most embarrassing urges of videogames, he has succeeded

Er, exactly! That's what it's meant to be, and it's great.

yeah talk about way to miss the point

This game reminds me of this scene from 30 Rock

"A porn video game? It can't be done," quipped co-worker Frank Rossitano in response to the idea. "Look, Tray, histories greatest perverts have tried -- Walt Disney, Larry Flynt, the Japanese -- but they can't do it because of the uncanny valley."

this is abominable rubbish as far as i can tell from the demo.

i also downloaded the dark void and dante's inferno demos and they were abominable too.

Remind me, did that 30 Rock episode actually come with a solution for overcoming the uncanny valley problem?

I believe Tracy disappeared in a cave for like a year and made the greatest porn game the world had ever seen. Sketchy on the details tho.

this is abominable rubbish as far as i can tell from the demo.

― Isambard Kingdom Buñuel (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 14 January 2010 22:43 (Yesterday)

so very, very wrong

wait for a guy to try and hit you. Dodge at last minute and get bullet time. Bash buttons. Repeat.

right, except that in the 18 stages after the demo in the real game you add a second level of dodging to your repetoire and learn how to parry attacks and put together customized weapons loadouts (each of which have their own set of 20-30 attack combos) and etc. also you fight a ton of huge awesome bosses along the way too. oh and it's one of those games built for New Game+ too.

I also picked this up. At first, I wasn't too into it. The early cut scenes, especially the imitation Joe Pesci character were turning me off. At times there's a very low budget / rushed feeling to some of those scenes (they way they switch from being kinda nice, to cut-out unanimated flat crap (for no good reason, except lack of money / time to do them right)). But, slowly, the gameplay and level design is really winning me over. I especially like the levels where you have to run on walls and the roof and the way they freely play with 3D space (and the nice mix of light platforming). Some of the crazy, over the top shit that happens is pretty fun too. I've only just gotten to the 4th chapter, so can't say a lot. I do feel like, so far, it's a little button mashy - there's a lot of combos, but yeah, I can't be bothered to really learn them (just for a single player game), when randomly hitting B or Y is pretty effective anyway (on Normal difficulty). The game does seems like it might have a lot of replayablity. I don't know that I'd give the game a ten, so far it feels a couple of notches below a Ninja Gaiden Sigma, but I'm definitely looking forward to spending more time with it.

Wow - that 4th chapter was really arghh. It was one of those fights where after you finally get through it, you think, there probably was a much easier way to do that. Then again, as annoying as it was to get through, when I finally did, it really felt like accomplishing something. Very similar to a lot of the Ninja Gaiden boss fights kind of feeling. Super frustration, followed by super satisfaction.

Am still stuck on chapter 4.

Sega released a patch for the PS3 version which allows you to install it to your HD! loading times are preposterously improved obviously; also some folks are saying anti-aliasing has been disabled and there's an accompanying minor bump in the framerate.

I'm halfway into chapter 6 now. I can't remember the last time I found a game this hard without wanting to just give up, but even though I'm progressing painfully slowly I'm still loving every minute of it.

£17.99 for ukers from zavvi right now
http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/xbox-360/bayonetta/10042983.html

anyone who passes up this awesome game at that awesome price should be flung into a crevasse

I talked to some gamers and they said Bayonetta : Devil May Cry :: Darksiders : God of War

jim/jeff, did you finish this in the end?

just got past chapter 4 myself; love lots of things about the game but there are some things I find really grating (there seem to be numerous sections / set-pieces that are very difficult to complete the first time round - not because they're difficult but badly designed... running down an alley away from lava blind to the massive monsters ahead of you... jumping off a collapsing bridge when actually you're supposed to wait for a qte... most of the qtes in general actually)

Yeah, agree on the QTE issues.

I'm only a couple of chapters from the end, but I stopped playing it when Mass Effect 2 arrived, telling myself I'd finish Bayonetta off once I was done with that. Am now about 3 missions from the end of Mass Effect 2, but Red Dead Redemption has arrived...

To be honest, I didn't get very far, like chapter five or so? It was one of those games where I put it down and kept meaning to go back to it, but just never did. I didn't have any super negative reaction to it, but I guess I never felt compelled to want to play it further? It sat on the shelf unplayed for so long that I eventually realized I wasn't going to get back into it and traded it in when I needed money for something else. I don't think it was exactly the game's problem, more just my changing tastes and almost complete indifference to playing through a single player, story driven game. In fact, this may have been the game that made me realize I can't maintain enough interest in a solely single player game to justify spending $60 US on them, since I never seem interested enough to play them through to the end, no matter how highly they're rated. The basic structure of cut-scene, fight a series of small enemies, cut-scene, boss fight, then repeat, is just a type of game that now bores me horribly.

cozen - I know that part you're talking about - must have died there twenty times and spent forty minutes running around that area trying different things until somehow I triggered whatever was supposed to happen.

Has anyone tried the PS3 version? I'm kind of curious to know what if anything Sony accomplished with the cleanup job they were supposed to do with the US/Euro version, and whether the post-release install option has improved things...

the PS3 version is my GOTY so far. graphically it's apparently still the 360 version's bitch but w/ the install patch it runs like a dream so who cares?

Good to hear. So long as the framerate and loading times are OK, I could care less about the extra-shiny graphics.

no vanquish thread?

I never really looked @ this as it's not available for PC AFAIC, I checked out the demo youtube out of vague curiosity - the character's head appears to be too small/out of proportion woth her body? that would probably kind of irritate me if ~I were playing teh game

I guess maybe you're not supposed to notice this because you're looking at her ass? I WORKED IT OUT MYSELF.

Everything I've read about Vanquish makes it sound totally up my alley, then I played the demo and was irritated and confused. The tutorial made sense; the context-free chunk of game, not so much.

Bayonetta 2 announced as a WiiU exclusive, the messageboard meltdowns are delicious!

Very angry right now. It was multi-platform before, I don't see why they decided to fuck a lot of the fans (I want to say most). Guess its the money, but whatever, eff this.

etc etc

Sources basically confirm the game was dead and Nintendo brought it back to life, so..

Rule #1 re fanboys: Fanboys are never happy. Ever.

death threats from moe avatars lol

http://i.imgur.com/95nC9.jpg

this may push me over the edge to buy the stupid system

^^^ pending more games for it that I'll want to play, I might actually bite and go WiiU/pimped out PC(s) for the next gen.

i was thinking the same thing, if Japanese developers move to releasing their console games on WiiU then that + Big Picture Steam for western developed games seems a good combination. depends how the launch goes tho, Japanese gamers have been moving off consoles the last few years to mobile/PSP/DS and now 3DS, making console games could become risky for Japanese developers not called Nintendo if the home market doesn't recover.

bayonetta 2 p good

Forgot this thread existed. I finally played Bayonetta over the past month, and am totally blown away. Like, how many games have the purity - and the insane developers - to go through with a game like this? Ridiculous set piece after set piece! Dancing! Unfathomable stupidity and B-movie crassness! So much money, effort and passion went into this game, I love it to pieces, even with its multitude of obvious flaws (the last stretch of the game is way too hard, the QTES are generally awfully timed, and the camera is a goddamn curse, for starters). That said I'm not gonna grind it out for all the extra costumes and what not, it was tough enough to make it through the first time around.

(I will get a Wii U just for the sequel, some day.)

she has GUNS ON HER FUCKING FEET and she looks like a datass.jpg version of tina fey

you know how ridiculously over the top the setpieces get towards the end? the sequel starts from that point!

haha sick!

can't find a general stylish action thread so this one will do

playing through hi-fi rush atm and holy shit this game is good. very surprised with how likable it is, like i couldn't give a fuck about gene and olivia and bayonetta and jeanne but here i'm... actually enjoying the cutscenes and the character interactions for once?
coming in blind i was expecting to despise the 4th wall breaking and the "yeah that happended" writing but about halfway thorugh the first cutscene i was already sold. this game is stunningly gorgeous and really charming so far

anyway, gameplay-wise this is baby's first devil may cry in a good way. slooowwllly teaching the gameplay system with heavy tutorialising.
again, i'd normally hate this aproach but being "skill issue" made flesh i sort of don't mind the gentle introduction.
stylish action experts will probably despise the hand-holding, and i haven't even checked if you can skip the dialogue so replaying stages for S ranks might be a pain.
i'd prefer a tad more combat encounters and less world traversal but thankfully there haven't been any obnoxious puzzle-solving or mini-game sequences for "gameplay variety" yet

i'm not the right person to gauge the combat system against all-timers like DMC3 or bayonetta but for me it plays like a dream, behind only god hand. going by the button config menu there doesn't seem to be a taunt but other than that no complaints. likely goty

The lead game designer of Hi-Fi Rush is Masaaki Yamada, he worked on Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Viewtiful Joe, Okami, Bayonetta, Vanquish and The Evil Within.

He's seen it all and helped make another fantastic game. pic.twitter.com/3TpiShtIJP

— Bring Peanut Butter (@Dreamboum) January 27, 2023

your praise for Godhand makes me interested in this. but sadly it's not yet available on any system i own
i do already love Bayo and Viewtiful Joe, didn't realize Capcom alum were involved with this

all those words in my post and not one mention of the gimmick of this one: it's a stylish action/rhythm game hybrid where everything in the world works on a 4/4 beat and timing attacks and dodges correctly gives scoring and damage bonus. parries have tighter timing, mashing won't work at all for those, unlike attacks that always come out even if you input them off-beat

it plays like bayo/dmc and not god hand, the camera is not locked re4 style behind your character, there's a lot of jumping, etc

a veteran with both experience with multiple games and the gaming chops to push the systems to their limits will probably (and correctly) argue that DMC5 or bayo or PS2 shinobi or whatever are much tighter games than hi-fi rush, what drew me in was the rhythm gimmick and the overall presentation and personality sealed the deal.
if you miss out on this one it's not like there aren't 2 decades worth of stellar examples of the genre