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I finally got around to playing Sands of Time (on GC) over the weekend and damn is it good. It wavers between frustration (when I can't quite figure out how to get through a room or where to jump) and fulfillment (when I figure out the right path and whiz through a roomful of trips, with STYLE) more rapidly than most games.

The camera isn't flawless, but even having to think about or adjust the camera in a 3-d game is annoying for me.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

this game is great but the combat is really bad... but yeah the exhiliration of clearing a room in fine style is pretty much unbeatable... and it has a GREAT "ending"

carrey degeneres seinfeld (Cozen), Monday, 7 November 2005 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

i found a lot of the really basic stuff in this game very pleasurable... running along walls, jumping etc... so graceful and satisfying.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Definitely, Slocki.

The combat is kinda lame, I agree. I often find myself desperately trying to make the prince drink some damn water during a battle. Isn't the sequel even more combat-oriented?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought it sucked big time. pretty graphics, but rubbish fights, next to no sense of exploration, and "puzzles" that solve themselves. i'm not a big fan of linear progression. didn't like viewtiful joe for much the same reason.

anyway, don't bother with me, i don't actually LIKE video games, only a small subset thereof. i suppose i shouldn't really hang out on this board :-(

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I also liked this game but I was very, very, VERY happy I got it used. Possibly the best part was beating it and unlocking the original Prince of Persia!

Dan (The Camera Is For Sucks) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I got it for < $20.

I don't think the GC version has the original as a bonus. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 7 November 2005 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i managed to sell it on eBay for about as much as i bought it for, so not such a big deal :-)

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Monday, 7 November 2005 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link

my copy arrived today! $10 from amazon marketplace

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link

You can get the original PoP with the GC version, you just have to do something fiddly at some point while playing the main game. To be honest, five minutes of the original made me love Ubisoft even more for making a great game out of it.

The fighting can be hard, the one with his dad is a complete bastard and probably the biggest sticking point in the entire game. But it looks lovely, and plays right.

The second one (the Warrior Within) was supposed to be the Poochie of the series. Is the third one out yet?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 09:32 (eighteen years ago) link

The "visions" every time you save your game are very silly. "Oh, so in the next ten minutes I'm going to run, jump off walls, fight, and maybe even push a box? Seriously?!"

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Aw shit, I looked at gamefaqs and I missed unlocking PoP1. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link

those visions are actually an option on by default that makes the game worse IMO. should have been a "make this easy for i am an massive spaz" optional mode

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Probably my favourite game from this console cycle, now I think about it: a near perfect first twenty minutes with three or four open-mouth moments, the right length, the right difficulty, wonderful plotlet that's completely satisfying without ever being pretentious.

The new one is out I think!

Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Beaten! Some minor camera/control frustrations aside, that was probably the most fun I've had with a game since RE4.

I was able to go back to my only old save and unlock PoP1. Man, I'd forgotten how ridiculously hard that game is. The title screen said '92, I was sure it was older than that!

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 12 November 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

PoP1 is fantastic. The animation is still almost the best I've seen outside of Ico/Colossus.

adam (adam), Saturday, 12 November 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Woo! I bought this today. I've been meaning to play it since.. I heard about it really. I love the original, but never got very far on the second and didn't get around to playing Prince of Persia 3D. Looking forward to having a game of this tonight!

melton mowbray (adr), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i almost rented this yesterday... it was out though


HOWEVER

i was at a local bakery today where i sometimes go to get a sandwich for lunch, it's a couple of blocks away from my house. it's one block away from ubisoft, and i think the bakery does a really good lunchtime trade selling sandwiches to ubi workers. anyway they have a big mounted & signed (presumably by the dev team) poster of the new prince of persia on the wall! and some other game... socomm?

signed!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 18 December 2005 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, my dad started playing PoP1 (i.e. the PS2 one). Cool, he's called me a couple times cause he couldn't get past the intro level. I think he's out of his league wrt the combat and twitchy 3-D sections.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 18 December 2005 06:58 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
anybody got either of the new ones?

remy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

The Two Princes kind of looks like a pile of moldy fanny.

Dan (With Cooter Bugs) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

american or UK fanny?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Does it make a difference?

Dan (I Was Originally Thinking UK Because It's Ruder) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

It is… I just bought it used. The camera/controls are really crap. And the 'fight style' isn't much more than button-mashing. But I also bought Voodoo Vince, which is excellent.

remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Do you mean the first PoP or the recent one?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

The recent one. The first one is one of my favorites, except for the (heh) crummy fite style.

remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Like… having to remember really bulky combinations (e.g.) (X + X + Y + Y + X + X) in the middle of a brawl isn't fun for me.

remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I've no doubt this is going to cause offense to someone, but I really like the fighting in Sands of Time.

melton mowbray (adr), Friday, 6 January 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

NO NO NO, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT! LET ME BEGIN AGAIN....

adamrl (nordicskilla), Monday, 9 January 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I am about 25% through with The Two Thrones but at the fight with the butcher guy the speed-kill system glitches, and it's impossible for me to initiate the second part of the attack. Fucking frustration!

remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

The game (Sands of Time) is pretty nice, but I can only play it for short periods before the battling starts to piss me off. Especially when I'm fighting those dipshits you can't climb over (because of their two-sided spear things), and ESPECIALLY when I get knocked down (WHILE BLOCKING) and the dipshits start attacking me on the ground one at a time like I'm some sort of railroad spike. Also, to my lovely bow-firing companion - LEARN TO SHOOT FASTER ALREADY! I can take missing my jumps and falling to my death multiple times, or getting skewered by spikes - losing a swordfight to guys that move slower than an old woman driving a Cadillac Seville on a Sunday is something I can't stands.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Also - you can drink water during battle if you're far enough away from the guys you're fighting. The last big honking battle I passed was in a mess hall w/ a water fountain on the lower level - I waiting until I had one guy left, knocked him down, then made a beeline for the fountain to drink up before he teleported behind me and made w/ the whacky-whack. Even if you have a guy subdued beside the fountain, you can't drink - you'll just stand next to the fountain, blocking like a tard.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link

The only way I won some of the fights was by fleeing like a small child until finding the water in the room, and then sucking it up every chance I got.

xpost, I think it'll let you drink in battle if you sheathe your sword?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe! I didn't think of that (usually because I'm getting too pissed off @ the camera positioning itself so I'm hidden when I inadvertently trigger a Dagger Power while surrounded by four stooges swinging their shizz @ me).

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Again, I heart the fighting when there's just me to worry about, but haven't finished this game yet because of horrid bow-lady.

melton mowbray (adr), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, why can't SHE drink the water, eh?

melton mowbray (adr), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: Lara Croft's "No!" vs. Prince of Persia's "No, no, no..."

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
If Prince of Persia were a Russian teenager

Laura H. (laurah), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
So there's a special offer on all 3 (Sands of Time, Warrior Within & Two Thrones). What does ILG think? Worth it or not? Only 18 Euro but still hesitant!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

At that price, I'd say go for it. (What system? -- it's better on a console than on a PC.) Doubt you'll play all 3 though, I've heard the 3rd one is more of the same.

a.b. (alanbanana), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I never played Two Thrones, but I really liked Warrior Within. The combat was way more fun - you could kill people with their own weapons, steal their weapon and throw it at their zombie comrade, dive off the wall into baddies, etc. Plus, I am a sucker for a false ending.

a magical moment with unicorns dancing around you (nickalicious), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

PS2

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

It took a year or two but my dad beat Prince of Persia!!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry I mean I'm using a PS2. I have purchased them. If worst comes to the worst there's always ebay :)

Good on your dad! That's dedication!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I really liked Sands of Time. Warrior Within, not so much; mostly because what I liked about Sands--the running and jumping and sliding down curtains--wasn't as present or necessary.

max (maxreax), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

They arrived yesterday. Looking forwards to playing the Sands Of Time later this evening.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I had forgotten how addictive and stressful these games can be! "Oh fuck I'm on a wall in the middle of foggy fucking nowhere and only have one more time-sand-bladder or whatever, FUUUUUUUCK!"

blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 21:20 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
I just got the trilogy pack. I'm about halfway through the first one and loving the fluidity of some of the platform levels and it looks great for a 4 year old PS2 title. I don't like how sometimes he dies from a very small fall just because it wasn't the way he was supposed to go but I can live with being railroaded I suppose. Combat's all a bit samey so far but no major problems.

I need to go in and find out how to switch visions off.

onimo, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 15:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Gave this up as I got bored out of my skull :(

kv_nol, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

(it was a bit of a let down after God of War I mean)

kv_nol, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh it's not a patch on God of War, I wish I'd played this first.

I'm not as far through as I thought, just checked my save game and it's only 38%.

The crappy flirting dialogue is starting to grate, sooner I drop this woman off a cliff or something the better.

I still can't work out how to switch the visions thing off, though I noticed you can press x and skip them once they start.

I keep getting spiked because I don't pay attention to the floor.

onimo, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Yer man's voice is beyond irritating. I looked at the box last night: couldn't face it though.

kv_nol, Thursday, 12 April 2007 09:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm enjoying replaying levels after I've fucked them up near the end. I end up doing them almost on autopilot and the motion is fluid as fuck and just looks great.

onimo, Thursday, 12 April 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time is one of my favorite games of all time.

HI DERE, Thursday, 12 April 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

It's rapidly becoming one of mine. The combat's a bit crappy and repetitive at times but apart from that it's excellent.

onimo, Friday, 13 April 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

I just finally got Sands of Time tonight (11 USD)- I'm liking it so far, even though I was stuck like an idiot for probably 20 minutes trying to jump back and forth up that wall to statue to get the stupid dagger. Still don't really know what I was doing wrong (pressing A too late maybe?) - but it felt great to finally get it right. Hoping to play through some more this weekend... slightly concerned reading the combat comments above...

Jeff LeVine, Friday, 25 May 2007 06:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Finished this tonight - 15 1/2 hours - not exactly a speed run. Got stuck a few times on puzzles - wandering around rooms trying to figure out what the fuck I was supposed to do - but didn't have too hard of a time with the combat.

I was playing this on the 360 and was slightly disappointed to discover that after unlocking the original PoP the screen wouldn't display - I guess nobody bothered to check the emulation of the bonus features? Anyhow - I was planning to check out the upcoming remake with "improved" graphics... which should be out soon, right?

Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 02:50 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

GT review is up

czn (cozwn), Tuesday, 2 December 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know. At first I was looking forward to it, but the most recent things I've read or seen, give me the feeling that it has fallen into the pattern of recent ubisoft games of having a great visual presentation, but empty, boring gameplay?

Jeff LeVine, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Perhaps I say this too often, but it seems appropriate: "rental"

polyphonic, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link

This Wired review is pretty discouraging.

Nhex, Tuesday, 2 December 2008 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

hey I like this

jamescobo, Thursday, 8 January 2009 08:12 (fifteen years ago) link

five months pass...

i do not

jjjusten, Thursday, 2 July 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

willing to accept however that that might be 90% due to the fact that i seem to be utter shit at it

jjjusten, Thursday, 2 July 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

the ps2 one or the new one?

thomp, Thursday, 2 July 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

the new one

jjjusten, Thursday, 2 July 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link

oh n/m then

thomp, Friday, 3 July 2009 00:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I really like the new one. Took me a bit to get into it, but once I understood it was a rhythm game and not a traditional platformer I raced through it. There is definitely a groove to it, and it is hard to give up on what you think the timing should be and go with how the game wants you to play.

Forget everything you know about PoP and you'll enjoy it more.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 July 2009 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

further in, starting to turn around on this game - EZ is dead right about thinking about it as a rhythm thingy, and when you kind of get locked into moving around it gets really fluid and really fun.

combat however is just dumb and annoying to have to bother with. especially since there are basically no consequences for it um ever - u cant get killed = random button mash until i get to run on the ceiling some more.

also, it looks great - had to turn the brightness way way up on my tv to get through the first tutorial level (note frustration upthread) but it gets better after that.

jjjusten, Monday, 6 July 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

The combat does kind of suck - check out the combo list (I think it is in the options) and you can start to chain long strings of attacks. Though yet again, it is about rhythm.

One plus is the fact that the platforming gets longer and more varied as the game progresses, with more old-school memorization of obstacles and the like. The "no penalty for failing" trope falls flat on its face when you realize you've got thirty-plus moves to get right without stopping.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 6 July 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I loved how in Sands of Time, whenever you died the narrator would basically say "what happened? I am confused" and make you start over.

her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Monday, 6 July 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

i am amused that in this newest one you can get achievements for following the dialogue tree w/yer lady friend to the very end that are named stuff like "SUPER BUDDIES!" and shit like that. also at points this game is actually pretty funny, and the voice acting is pretty great, script is decent to good. TBF prob oscar material when it comes to game scripting.

jjjusten, Monday, 6 July 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link

so basically you are saying I should get this

(btw you were all right, Fallout III is incredibly rad, no pun intended)

her performance (ie, her pubes) stood out for me (HI DERE), Monday, 6 July 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Started playing the new(ish) one over the weekend and while some things grate (like the Nathan Drake Prince and the incredibly frustrating Warrior bossfight), it's pretty enjoyable. Key to this, though, was the realization that this isn't so much a Prince of Persia game as a Sonic the Hedgehog game.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/prince-of-persia-posters.jpg

kingfish, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

...The INSTANT I hear Godsmack I will start slahing seats and throwing shit at the screen.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

thought it was ok but got bored halfway through as it felt like i was doing the exact same thing over and over. hopefully the next one will be more like the puzzley/adventurey games of old

NI, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Agreed 100%. Still, the new one is a pleasant enough diversion, not to mention amazing to look at, and certainly worth the $15 it cost me.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Just finished. You know what? Fuck this game. Fuck it right in the pooper. That was one of the worst endings I have ever seen in a game. And no, Ubisoft, I'm not paying $10 for you to fix it.

Short non-spoiler version: imagine the developers decided it would be awesome to rip off Shadow of the Colossus but squeeze it into the last five minutes of the game, with all the subtlety, ambiguity, and melancholy atmosphere stripped out. Just...no.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 4 October 2009 02:06 (fourteen years ago) link

what's the pay $10 to fix it thing

gore vitalic (s1ocki), Sunday, 4 October 2009 02:12 (fourteen years ago) link

That's the one. And apparently the new boss is THE SHAPESHIFTER, ie "changes between the four bosses you've already fought until you're fucking sick of them." So lame.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Sunday, 4 October 2009 03:12 (fourteen years ago) link


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