The upcoming console generation (2012 onwards)

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As long as my PS3 controllers keep working with my Mac for Towerfall and eventually Videoball, I won't need one, I don't think.

jennifer islam (silby), Thursday, 4 June 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link

Yeah if these had appeared six months ago I might have gone for it, but the oculus rift required specs mean that my next purchase is much more likely to be a high end traditional desktop than an overpriced midrange but small form factor, lives-under-the-telly box.

JimD, Friday, 5 June 2015 09:31 (eight years ago) link

more srs q: is developing games for this machine going to make them work for the mac as well? like is this going to basically open up all new games to the mac?

Mordy, Friday, 5 June 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

i will if the reviews are good

polyphonic, Friday, 5 June 2015 19:56 (eight years ago) link

Dunno about "all" but targeting Mac is a lot more like targeting Linux than like Windows (OpenGL instead of DirectX, no XNA, etc.). I think I've seen one Steam offering on Linux but not Mac.

jennifer islam (silby), Friday, 5 June 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

Most indie games nowadays, if they're targeting multi-OS, end up doing Linux/Mac OS together anyway - pretty rare to see a game that's Windows/Mac or Windows/Linux.

Nhex, Friday, 5 June 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link

i guess i need to buy a PS4 by november so i can play F4. who generally has the best deals on those? should i wait until labor day weekend?

Mordy, Monday, 15 June 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link

maybe wait to see if there's a post thanksgiving price drop. Otherwise, just amazon. You're not gonna find that hardware on the cheap; sony keeps prices on lock like apple.

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 June 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link

Yeah pretty much plan to spend however much it costs now & wait for a dope in-box bundle

Who M the best? (Will M.), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Wait until the end of E3 at least, but since Sony's in the lead with MS cutting their price I don't see it happening. If you're going to play your PS4 in the next six months you might as well get one next week.

THAT SAID, since Fallout 4 doesn't come out until November anyway, so you might as well wait until BF, so you can at least get two recent-ish free games with the system, as they do every year with BF bundles. Chances are there might even be a FO4 system bundle, though who knows if it'll be PS4 or X1 yet (we'll probably find out today or tomorrow).

Nice of them to port FO3 to Xbox 1 though, I like this trend (also happened with Bayonetta 2)

Nhex, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

Amazon actually has a $400 bundle right now with The Last Of Us Remastered + an extra Dualshock 4, that's a solid deal.

Nhex, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

there was a killer bloodbourne deal too iirc

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 June 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

is fo4 coming to pc and is there any way i would be able to play it on the laptop i bought for work this year? who am i kidding, i will never again have the hours to lavish on this game that it did on the last two instalments...

appropriation and whatnot (stevie), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 09:59 (eight years ago) link

yeah, it's coming out for pc - i suspect it'll need a fair amount of processing grunt, though, so unless your laptop has a decent discrete graphics card it'll probably struggle.

bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 10:20 (eight years ago) link

I'm kind of... impressed(?) that the 360 emulation on X1 is supposedly full system/OS emulation, so XBL thinks you're on a 360 too and in theory, all your downloadable games should work. If that's the case, it's actually a HUGE reason for me to get the X1 at some point in the far off future.

Nhex, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 19:44 (eight years ago) link

I assume this is easy to do since xbox's backbone is basically pc/windows

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 22:57 (eight years ago) link

Yeah whereas PS3 ran on a notoriously goofballs processor architecture

jennifer islam (silby), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 00:01 (eight years ago) link

but which makes it bullshit that reverse xbone/360 compatibility wasnt available at launch

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 00:58 (eight years ago) link

I imagine it's more complicated than it seems - Microsoft for some (probably very good) reason went with PowerPC processors for the xbox360, where the XboxOne uses x86 (like a traditional PC). That's more like getting Windows to run on an old Mac (before Apple also took the decision to switch from PowerPC to x86) than getting an older version of Windows to run on a new PC. I expect it's a pretty heavy translation layer to convert between the architectures, as they're so different.

It's part of the reason you often need surprisingly hefty PCs to run console emulators (like, take a look at the requirements to run the PS2 emu PCSX2; just to emulate a 300MHz processor they recommend a 3.2GHz dual core processor). I'm kind of surprised they even bothered to make the effort, but it makes the back catalogue more impressive and sets a big challenge to Sony to perhaps try and get the same running properly on the PS4.

CraigG, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 08:29 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, it's far from trivial. Good stuff on it here:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-vs-backwards-compatibility-on-xbox-one

JimD, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 08:59 (eight years ago) link


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