the bio-determinist end of the right wing is real abyssal stuff
― goole, Thursday, 23 October 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
its funny cause theyre just telling each other made up stories then being all LOGIC
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link
of course he's evo-psych
― am0n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
don't think i have the stomach for this, but
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/525361729552007168
"enjoy"
― goole, Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:21 (nine years ago) link
one of the really interesting things to me about #gamergate as a sociological phenomenon is how persistent and totemic certain phrases become - like obv its not a new debate tactic to dismiss opposing viewpoints as incorrect but things are always 'fallacies' or not 'critical thinking'. i mean i think the idea that these horrible trashslobs are the only people who see things as they really are is an entrenched part of the trunet mindset (lol normalshits) is p fascinating but not unique but the codified way they have expressing things is super interesting
ive been p fascinated with trunet communities since before #gamergate and i keep seeing glimpses of that mindset in #gamergate like there was a tweet by the one fedora dude that makes tentacle rape games about 'lames on the internet' but there are a lot (well not that many) dudes out there that truly believe that the dod developed arpanet as a safeplace for them to trade nudes of the girl in a cowboy hat from digimon. and people talking about facebook.com being 'cultural appropriation' - that having ceded 'rl' to the normals they 'deserve' the internet to themselves. and that even more than ethics in game journalism or having sjw values forced on them the very existence of 'candy crush saga' is an existential threat
this is kind of stupid but i remember being a kid and reading tad williams 'otherland' and thinking man the internet is going to be so cool in 20 years and instead of being totally l33t its just a place for white guys named noah to play fantasy football and pix of cats. so i can understand people who conceive of their world as being this diminishing, threatened place. i mean every darkweb chan ive ever been on is just people asking for advice on how to kill themselves, the core of #gamergate just makes me think of these dudes who are so sad and lonely and toxic and just severed from rl, from the norms and frames of reference that make sense to the people who live there. idk this stuff makes me so sad
― ≖_≖ (Lamp), Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link
yes the totemic use of smart-boy terms in sub-140 chara snippets is legit enraging to me
― goole, Thursday, 23 October 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
gem
https://twitter.com/TehDoh/status/525375845289189376
― goole, Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
lol i'm sure she knows him well enough from Whedonverse events
― Nhex, Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:17 (nine years ago) link
Xp I like one of the retweets in that thread where someone is complaining that the story of day getting doxx'd is spreading so quickly and wah wah they're blaming gg CAN YOU BELIEVE THE INDIGNITY. these people are living on a different planet from the rest of us carbon based life forms
― i'd rather be arrested by you folks than by anybody i know (art), Thursday, 23 October 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link
SJW false flag doxxing op obv
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
love 2 doxx
― lag∞n, Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
I've learned so many new words in the last 24 hours
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
This is all fodder for the F-Plus podcast to read dramatically
― Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
One thing I am noticing is that a lot of these guys REALLY resent or feel threatened by attractive women.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
go on...
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
sorry. that was dickish. but yeah, this is very much a thing.
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 23 October 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, a lot of this stuff is straight ressentiment on the level of NRO-zealotry. I can't remember if Frank Schaeffer or whoever coined the term but we're looking at another case of people being "victimized by modernity." Shit has changed and they're just beginning to twig that everything ain't what it was.
Michel Houellebecq wrote that HP Lovecraft had to "fail at life" before he could start churning out weird horror of a cosmic scope, but these guys don't exhibit jackshit for creative ability to filter or sublimate all that internal discontent into anything other than increasingly graphic threats. I don't necessarily think that in 20 years they'll all be those militia types who move to N.Idaho and broadcast on shortwave radio, but I'm damnsure plenty will have shared ideological & narrative aspects.
― Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Thursday, 23 October 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link
Hey Idaho deserves better than to be assoc w/gamergate :(
― Walter MIDI (Crabbits), Thursday, 23 October 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link
o for the days when nerds gathered in sewers and killed each other in satanic role-playing games
― mookieproof, Friday, 24 October 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link
Sorry Couer d'Alene, but you got all the neo-nazi/supremacist-types that were chased out of Portland in the early 90s
― Delbert Gravy (kingfish), Friday, 24 October 2014 04:17 (nine years ago) link
headline of the year
http://theweek.com/article/index/270115/gamergate-has-backfired-spectacularly-on-its-nincompoop-perpetrators
― Spirit of Match Game '76 (silby), Friday, 24 October 2014 07:15 (nine years ago) link
nincompoop perpetrators, to the internet!
― Barry Gordy (Neil S), Friday, 24 October 2014 08:07 (nine years ago) link
<I>I can't remember if Frank Schaeffer or whoever coined the term but we're looking at another case of people being "victimized by modernity." Shit has changed and they're just beginning to twig that everything ain't what it was.</I>
There is also a fair amount of "No, obviously things should change, but organically, as the market demands, not with these SJW's coming in with their jackboots and dfgdkdmlkmnlgdfgds"
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 24 October 2014 08:42 (nine years ago) link
FFVII lol: http://i.imgur.com/KSpYGnN.jpg
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 24 October 2014 09:32 (nine years ago) link
Was thinking yestreday how similar to 'gaming' these targeted email and harassment campaigns are
Like w/r/t the advertisers, taking a form letter and spamming it to dozens of advertisers and being good at finding email contacts / copying and pasting and changing names efficiently
The positive feedback loop that happens when Intel bows out of Gamasutra or when Gawker's advertisers get shook and #gamergaters think yes, I helped make that happen
Not too different than doing a raid in WoW maybe and teaming up on a boss
― 龜, Friday, 24 October 2014 11:42 (nine years ago) link
ahh these editors notes are very classic
What Male Game Developers Think of #GamerGateTHE ESCAPIST STAFF | 10 OCTOBER 2014 12:30 PM Editor's Note: We have deleted the timeline originally presented in this article to avoid editorial opinion as much as possible. The goal of this introduction was to present some context behind these interviews, not to comment on the issues presented. We have also updated the title (the art is being updated at the moment) to "What Male Game Developers Think of #Gamergate" and encourage you to read the companion piece "Female Game Developers Make Statements on GamerGate, which was presented separately and anonymously at the request of those developers. (Exception: Crowned Daemon Studios includes both genders but is grouped with this list.) The goal was to offer game developers of all kinds a chance to have their voices be heard. If you're interested in the official stance of The Escapist, you may read these editorials.
Editor's Note #2: We have removed the testimony of Slade Villena, known as RogueStar, after we've received evidence that he has harassed some contributors to The Escapist. Due to our strong policy against all harassment and abuse, Villena's opinions will no longer be presented alongside those of his colleagues.
Editor's Note #3: We have removed the testimony of James Desborough, after we've received evidence that he has harassed some contributors to The Escapist. Due to our strong policy against all harassment and abuse, Desborough's opinions will no longer be presented alongside those of his colleagues.
Editor's Note #4: The Escapist removed the interviews of Slade Villena and James Desborough due to complaints (accompanied by what appears to be actual evidence) that Messrs. Villena and Desborough have harassed members of the online community, including certain of our contributors. While we cannot speak to the legitimacy of such of complaints, due to our strong policy prohibiting harassment and abuse we thought it best to simply remove the interviews.
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link
Editor's Note #5: We are total assclowns.
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-advertisers-threatening-to-pull-money-now-t,37263
― mookieproof, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link
"Developers" represented:
-Stardock-Manifesto Games-Crowned Daemon Studios-anonymous dev "Royale"-James Covenant is a video editor and game developer. He is most famous for his viral YouTube videos "Star Wars Call Me Maybe" and "Captain Picard sings Let it Snow!" James is currently developing a puzzle game called Black-White. Black-White features a unique color-inverting mechanic. -anonymous iOS developer "Scion"-Warhorse Studios- Some guy who worked at SOE and Verant (so I guess ex-EQ dev w/no job now)- guy working on his first game "Project Assembly"- "design consultant"/blogger- "Industry veteran"- anonymous developer "Oakheart"- anonymous developer "Xbro"- anoynmous dev "Glaive"- anonymous dev "Roo"
WHAT A WHO'S WHO OF "GAME DEVELOPERS" VERY IMPRESSIVE TITO
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
Black-White features a unique color-inverting mechanic.
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link
"Captain Picard sings Let it Snow!" <<< primo content
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link
- anonymous developer "Xbro"
hahaha
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link
This whole thing just makes me think that there are total losers in the world who are total losers for a good reason.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 October 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
wasn't the stardock embroiled in some gnarly sexual harassment suit a couple years ago, complete with hilarious forums meltdown?
― adam, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
stardock dude rather
yup
― Nhex, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
?
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link
It's interesting to reread 'Backlash' by Faldui, as I did today. So much of this stuff has been there for a long time. There's a coincidentally appropriate quote from Margaret Mead in the book, that stood out for me "Maleness in America is not absolutely defined; it has to be kept and reearned every day, and one essential element in the definition is beating women in every game that both sexes play."
I kind of wanted to quote a part of it to people, but the significant paragraph became a significant page became a significant chapter.
― Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:36 (nine years ago) link
it's funny I watched the old Swedish film I Am Curious (Yellow) the other night and in some parts the protagonist goes around interview (what appears to be) real ppl on the streets about social justice and stuff, and asks about women's equality with men and some a-hole dude says something like "well already it's happened, women are dominant in society now" or something and that was in 68
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, there's a lot of "Well of course everyone likes equality but we're there now, surely?" which, that song is so old!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0uLVSsCcAA-8dF.png
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
lol lol lol lol
― NYC if you didn't know was taken over by skeleton hipsters in the past (stevie), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
seems legit
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 24 October 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
Max Read, finally outed for the CIS White Male he is
― Barry Gordy (Neil S), Friday, 24 October 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
Ah man, I didn't know about Vox Day - might as well throw in the towel now.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
such inclusivevery diversitywow
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 October 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
hahaha3 cis white males and 1 cis white jock
― Neckbread (Will M.), Friday, 24 October 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
pretty forward-thinking of #gamergate to recognise jock as a distinct gender
― Merdeyeux, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
Ernst RohmGay White Male
― Chimp Arsons, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
p sure max identifies as a fast hedgehog
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 October 2014 16:33 (nine years ago) link