Bioshock -- the "sequel in spirit" to System Shock 2

that's weird

OH MY GOD FUCK ZEPPELINS

I have successfully fucked all the zeppelins. Not sure if I like the ending or not; it does make (most of) the game make much more sense in retrospect, but even though it works logically, it still somehow feels kind of unearned. I'll have to think about it.

i liked all the whiz bang visual ending stuff and managed to not think about the content too hard, when i do i just get irritated.

Finished this over the weekend - it was certainly an impressively lavish experience but it's not actually much of a game, is it? In terms of what you actually get to do, it's a really basic shooter with very little variety in the enemies and weapons which never feel terribly powerful. By the end I was grimly slogging through the fights just to see where the story was going. I'm glad I played it and I guess I can admire the ambition behind it but ultimately I don't think the story actually says anything of any substance.

ok this is longer than the game: http://www.actionbutton.net/?p=3006

System Shock 2 now on Steam for like seven bucks

remember that it is my will that guided you here. it is my will that gave you your cybernetic implants: the only beauty in that meat you call a body. if you value that meat, you will do as i tell you.

thought that rogers piece was importantly otm every thousand words or so, which is about par.

i would have said it was in the five to six thousand word range. i just copy-pasted it into word to count, out of curiosity, and it is a long way from being in the five to six thousand word range.

thing is a short novella. could very well be an ebook.

like the dude who wrote 50K words about Spec Ops: The Line

Chapter Five: Let’s talk about ludonarrative interference.

:(

i like the idea that you got through the preceding ten thousand words without difficulty and then on reaching the words 'ludonarrative interference' something in your brain went oh hell no

well maybe i was more rapidly scrolling thru sort of reveling in the actionbutton dot netness of the whole thing and "ludonarrative interference" and all its attendant undergrad neologism ridiculousness flipped that oh hell no switch. like i can take the chatty blog vomit but once someone starts going all ian bogost it's oh hell no.

his total deployment of it is a complaint about the fact that he's using the term, though, and then a thing he's talked about ... at length ... elsewhere

i don't think i've ever read bogost. i wonder if i'd like him.

DangerFrost 11 minutes ago
I saw the trailer for the new bioshock DLC
I JIZZED IN MY PANTS]
i saw Elizabeth smoking
I JIZZED IN MY PANTS

PENDANTturnips 52 minutes ago
eww Elizabeth smokes? well thats gonna make her a 5/10 now

ProxyStarkillaYTA 4 minutes ago
Yeah, you're right, I'd never stick my dick in her now.

Matt Hatt 47 minutes ago
Agreed, smoking is such a turn off for me too. Kissing an ashtray is never fun.

Even gamers have standards

standards about not having sex with real people

i guess i shouldn't be surprised that that character is some kind of basement-dweller sex object since that's p much as designed, right

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/hot-dang-real-bioshock-elizabeth-is-hoooootttttttttt.453058661/

http://oi43.tinypic.com/f0xk6v.jpg

the internet

Meanwhile, this looks interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpgvZay10jE

The Part 2 promo image is good, too

A fairly candid interview with Ken Levine where he talks about Logan's Run, how that led to Rapture, B:I, and DLC philosophy

http://www.nerdist.com/2013/07/nerdist-podcast-ken-levine/

been playing burial at sea on 1999 mode - pretty brutal but it sure slows the game down which i like.

there are small corridors and closets that elizabeth blocks you in, which even if she eventually moves can cause you to be killed/spotted.

rapture is still way cooler\weirder then blimp-town. narration still too explainy.

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLP8l2nnnn4s&start1=71&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1ng0yS_Jl5I&start2=70&authorName=

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLP8l2nnnn4s&start1=30&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DM7FIvfx5J10&start2=0&authorName=HappyHappyHappyHappy

just finished b:i - my what a terrible game that is

yeah i rarely just straight quit on a game but this was total garbage and i couldn't justify wasting my time with it. and i went in with such optimism!

the first bioshock's a pos and it looks like a masterpiece next to B:I

i don't know what is worse about b:i, the narrative or the mechanics. it's gotta be the mechanics just bc that's the fundamental need of a game - to be fun to play - but the story is dumber than inception.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obscura/2014/01/21/whitaker_wright_s_underwater_ballroom_in_surrey_england.html

This game was great fun, and easily the most beautiful-looking game I have seen so far. Also I really liked the combat, and am kind of confused by everyone who says it sucked. Aside from just pointing the trigger and shooting, you usually had multiple hiding spots, tearable gun turrets, all the vigors, etc. so many different ways to approach most combat situations.

Then again I've been off fps for a while, what are the games with wonderful combat that you would recommend over B:I?

High point of the game for me was zipping around a looping skyline while trying to take down a single huge dirigible halfway through the game.

no fpses matter after unreal tournament 2004 iirc

paranautical activity is awesome - brand new roguelike fps

infinity was the worst

The false shepherd is either a mulatto dwarf or a Frenchman with a missing left eye, no more than four foot and nine inches

They say this over the intercom when the shit hits the fan and all the authorities are looking for you, and it always stuck out to me. Is it a literary reference or something?

The first encounter with the crow man feels playing through a 100% accurate re-creation of a nightmare. Probably my favorite part of the game.

It does kind of suck when they show you an alternate reality 1983 but you never get to go there.

http://killscreendaily.com/articles/news/ken-levine-closes-irrational-sets-create-brave-new-narrative-games/

whoa, was bioshock infinite a huge failure or something? i just assumed it had sold well.

The massive delays couldn't have helped.

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dz3RHenh8vJ8&start1=245&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3De8-sMJZTYf0&start2=0&authorName=snoopsagan

I made it about 3/4 of the way through on the second play before just giving up. I was playing on Hard and the fight against the Handyman was so impossible it just became extremely un-fun.

'Storyline' in this was fun to think about for about the first 2 hours of my second playthrough, but the more I thought about it, the less appealing it was, and the more icky it felt. Plus in all the interviews w Levine I could read, he never had a good answer for why the racist stuff other than "This is how the world was in 1912". Yet you never read about all the floating cities and robot presidents in history books. So this guy, who SOLD HIS OWN DAUGHTER, turns evil because he is later baptized? It wasn't the massacre in Wounded Knee and it wasn't SELLING HIS OWN DAUGHTER, it was being baptized. Right.

I guess this stuff is probably touched upon in the DLC but count me out.

i completely agree. what if it had been an open-world, undirected myst-style thing where you just wander around and put clues together and then maybe break into the tower with some sierraesque inventory puzzle and maybe occasionally you shoot some dudes? right? "not being call of duty" isn't enough.

i just started playing this because it is free on xbox gold and this so expresses my disappointment about an hour or so in. such a beautiful world, wish i could stop being shot at by dudes so i could enjoy it.

That's ironic because there is no story at all this game is telling. The plot is a kind of an aimless bait-and-switch of a bunch of topical high concepts smooshed together through clever but sloppy writing and used to disguise a dull shooter as something which could have been so much deeper. It's the dumbest "thinking person's game" ever.

The idea that without the shooting this could have been something amazing is utterly absurd but I am sure it sold a lot to people that think Call of Duty is for idiots.

well it's boring the piss out of me, and if there's no story there then i don't know if i can be bothered to play much further.

There's story there, it's just not nearly as good as people were dreaming it was going to be.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/07/20/system-shock-by-nightdive-studios-is-coming-to-ps4/