The upcoming console generation (2012 onwards)

The final version of the console won't actually look like that, but it'd be funny if it did in fact look like a cheap HTPC.

I'll take the ugly controller over the "everything Kinects & online to play" rumors that are out there for the next xbox.

Honestly, I hope that one of the proposed Steam boxes replaces consoles for me. I'll miss sports games, but that's about it.

but if it does well, they might actually stop gimping the PC versions of sports games!

Isn't there rumours that the Valve layoffs in the last few data were that hardware team?

supposedly neither PS4 or 720 will have backwards compatibility, so what will happen with XBLA & PSN games? Sony bought streaming service Gaikai last year, wonder if that is how they will try to deal with previously bought PS3/PSN/PS+ content?

i never expected backwards compatibility with XBLA games tbh

PSN might, since they're already hip to the multiplatform cross-compability with PS1/3/PSP/Vita that's going on with the PSN store right now, but i still wouldn't bet on it

Not having backwards compatibility for disc games is pretty weak though

welp http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323478004578306663577439962.html

Sony is planning to offer technology to stream games to its next videogame console, people familiar with the company's plans say, alongside other enhancements to bolster its position in the market.

The new technology, to be unveiled Wednesday along with the new console, will allow users to play games delivered over the Internet, these people said. The streaming service, they added, is designed to use current PlayStation 3 titles on the new console; the new device is also expected to play new games stored on optical discs.

games delivered over the internet? wow

I presume they mean actual gameplay streaming, not whole game downloading. Which is a neat way to deliver backwards comparability, if it works.

Comparability u stupid ipad

NOOOO

lol

worst thing about ipads, when you type a word and it throws up something completely dissident

this may be super obvious but i haven't heard it said:
PS1 was a CD player that attached to my TV, so i didn't need to buy a CD player for the living room
PS2 was my first DVD player
PS3 is my BluRay player and where I do most of my Netflix/Hulu streaming
exactly what consumer function other than game playing does the PS4 provide that will motivate people who don't give a shit about streaming gaming or MORE POLYGONS to buy this damn thing

i see the advantage, but the lack of extra capabilities certainly didn't hurt the Wii this gen (or 360 early on). and i don't think that many people bought the PS1 as a music CD to TV device

Wii was the first motion device really and had major cultural importance as a generation bridging system. Can't imagine what PS4 will do to match that.
And yeah, maybe the CD wasn't the most important thing about the PS1 (though it really was to me! and many folks i know!) but the PS1 also was a massive leap forward in quality and capability of games both in size, graphics and complexity. Again, the PS4 is unlikely to make skyrim look like bushido blade.

The Times is saying that PS4 is going to cost £300 at launch

i agree with your general point. not sure what will be the new shininess to draw in the general population

4k video output

just kidding

less than 5 hours until PS4 is revealed! this could go either way

lots of people just got $10 credit in the psn mailbox, check yr account

Can I watch this on my PS3 or what?

woulda made sense, but I don't think so. Gametrailers is streaming it if you ignored the invite.

pour the new PS4 directly into my mouth pls

Can I watch this on my PS3 or what?

― JimD, Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:38 PM (45 minutes ago)

Yes, there hould be an icon in the What's New section according to their blog. Or just watch online from either post below...

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/02/20/today-watch-playstation-meeting-2013-live-at-6pm-eastern-time/

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2013/02/20/playstation-meeting-2013-livestream/

in my life i've owned an atari > nintendo > super nintendo > playstation > playstation 2 > xbox 360

i have no brand loyalty so i'm really curious which next gen console i'll end up getting

apparently you can watch it via Home.

whole lotta anticipation over something that'll probably have very little substance

My gamer ownership history in rough chronological order: atari 2600 - trs 80 - NES - Super NES - Gameboy Color - Dreamcast - PS - DS Lite - PS2 - PC - Gamecube - PS3 - Wii - 360 - PSP - iPad - 3DS

i didn't include my handhelds but various iterations of gameboys/DS's/iPhone

what's the chance the entire next gen is a total bust?

here's hoping!

haha that's the spirit!
half expecting The Last Guardian to be announced as a launch game for PS4 and then to be postponed indefinitely a month before launch

if the vita is any indication, today will be lol

sony's got its head too far up its arse re gimmicks over content, and i don't see that changing today

mere minutes away...

cheesy music has begun to play on the livestream.

"PLAYSTATION WANTS TO WIN THE WAR AGAINST REALITY"

"WE FOUGHT TOGETHER... AND WE DIED TOGETHER" (video of Sepiroth)

this is a bit much.

GET TO THE GAMES

we're going to do stuff, whether you want us to or not.

getting sleepy...

sad clapping.

"next couple of hours"? They're nuts

sony realises games consoles are about games

in 2013

glowing bar on controller

i actually just fell off my chair laughing

http://m.kotaku.com/5985759/sony-announces-the-playstation-4

They're live blogging like everybody else.

I thought they weren't going with that name die to the superstition of "4". Oh well.

I think the only consoles I haven't bought new in the last 20 years were a GameCube and a PS2, which were both purchased as part of a reward program at an old job like 10+ years ago.

Anybody wanna sell me their slim 360 and a copy of RDR?

Yeah, it's far from trivial. Good stuff on it here:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-vs-backwards-compatibility-on-xbox-one