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What did people think of Fraction's Inhumanity? I thought it was pretty clever of him to use two characters he'd been writing recently (Hawkeye, Medusa) as sounding boards to lay out the framework; I have always been much more mutant-focused up until the past 2 years or so so I have no idea if the direction the story took was supposed to be "SHOCKING" or not.

SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 5 December 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ba52FRmIUAAZ-Aa.jpg

Brakhage, Monday, 9 December 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link

armor up.
be angry.
POSSESS THE POWER
your attack plan.

poor Hawkeye

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

Hawkeyes cologne smells like cheap stale beer and pizza. the slogan is "Be Realistic"

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 December 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link

sounds about right

Who are considered to be the A-list Avengers these days? Hickman seems to really be attached to this subset:

Captains America and Marvel
Iron Man
Hulk
Spider Woman
Manifold
Black Widow
Bruce Banner (moreso than Hulk)
Thor

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

Is it just me or did it seem like drawing a curtain over a lot of series this month? Avengers Arena and Fearless Defenders for sure, Young Avengers feeling like it and Infinity being over plus some other things I've forgotten already - Scarlet Spider? Carnage?

The Kirby tribute Deadpool was great.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link

YA is ending soon (next month?). Marvel is starting to do a thing where they are willing to greenlight stories that are longer than the traditional miniseries but not meaty enough to sustain a fully ongoing title, hence the 18 issue run of Avengers Academy that sets the stage for Avengers Undercover next year, or this latest entry into the Young Avengers saga. I think Wolverine and the X-Men is ending soon, too?

SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link

I'm pretty sure all of those are wrapping up. Arena and Young Avengers finished as planned, Fearless Defenders and a few others were cancelled for lack of interest.

xpost

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link

YA felt like it was over, but has a next issue blurb and cover at the end of the letters column.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link

Forgot to say too that 3w1ng's digital-only Iron Man comic is a lot of fun. And that Fantomex is a massive pile of wank, "oooooh shocking" nonsense dressed up "look at me!" clothing.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link

it's kind of hilarious that the most resonant image YA had for me over the course of a series filled with gorgeous, unforgettable images, was Prodigy's phone tree

basically I like graphs

SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link

(also a large part of why I Went bananas for the Pizza Dog issue of Hawkeye)

SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

So, I know this is long, but I think it is pretty fun:

Finally, "Infinity" was different from past Marvel events in that the core story was featured in three titles all written by you, Jonathan. What was it like writing such a massive story? How does it feel to bring the story to a close?

Hickman: [Laughs] Well, I don't think we should have done it that way. I think it was irresponsible, but as soon as I got into it there was no other way to do it.

It was a lot of work. it feels good to be done, and I'm happy that we didn't screw up too badly. That's a terrible answer. [Laughs] Tom, do you have a better answer?

Brevoort: [Laughs] I think that's a pretty good answer. As we've said before, we completely failed in this instance to make the core series stand alone. We always try to do that, and more often than not in the past we've succeed. This was one where once we got into it, it just couldn't be done. So fairly early on we made the choice and the switch. We realized that we were going to have to treat the "Avengers" and "New Avengers" chapters as essential pieces otherwise we were going to need twice as many "Infinity" issues for everything to happen. We just didn't have that strategically, resource wise, or the time. It couldn't be that way.


That's kind of a reflection that every event is different. In this case the shape of the story and how it sat in "Avengers" and "New Avengers" and how much you could convey and make matter in just the core book dictated that we had to do it this way. It was a choice, but it came from having no choice. This was really the best option we had in terms of being able to do this.


So it's a glorious failure, but it's a failure nonetheless. [Laughs]

Hickman: The biggest problem was how late it came together and that I wasn't really expecting to do it. So we were always racing against the clock. Once we made initial decisions we were locked into them and that's how we got into the situation where the six-issue event book basically became a 16-issue story. [Laughs] Everybody did as good of a job as they possibly could though, and in some instances, especially with the art, they really exceeded expectations. So I think it all turned out okay.

Brevoort: I've been sort of astonished by how positive everyone seems be about the story. Even people who weren't completely on board with it at different points seem to not dislike it as much as they have other things that we've done in the past. I'm not quite sure if that's a good or a bad thing quite frankly, but the reactions and reviews to issue #6 that I've seen so far have been pretty good and pretty positive. People seem to like it and that's always gratifying. So we're happy about that.

Really refreshingly honest, and completely unlike anything I could imaginge coming from DC.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link

Should probably say that it's taken from here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=49599

Frederik B, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link

I think Wolverine and the X-Men is ending soon, too?

I know that this is probably inevitable given the new character landscape and the fact they're doing this temporary series to get Nightcrawler back, but bleeeeh.

mh, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link

is Amazing temporary? I thought it was actually replacing WatX

SHAUN (DJP), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

Ah, that'd make more sense.

mh, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link

Watxm is relaunching with a new creative team. I'm looking forward to Avengers Undercover, cos Arena was the best Marvel book I've read in a while.

Rotating prince game (I am using your worlds), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link

YA's having a two-issue afterparty/jam issues, ends at 15 I think.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 12 December 2013 09:37 (ten years ago) link

btw can I just say YA was super charming and 90% of that is because of Jamie McKelvie's art

SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link

I preferred watching it to reading it - some of that is just literally Jamie McKelvie's lovely lines on a page, but a lot of it is what the page looks like, which I gather is more of a collaboration - there's a great post from Gillen about how and whether to disentangle that stuff.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 13 December 2013 11:34 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I thought Cyclops killed Charles Xavier, but here he is in New Avengers #13. I totally don't know what the hell is going on in the M.U. anymore.

oldbowie (WilliamC), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link

alt universe Xavier. They're watching that world through the bridge.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link

Ah, ok. That's what I get for quick skimming.

oldbowie (WilliamC), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link

yeah, that is why mags is wearing his classic costume, too. that's the alt-world version of the illuminati or whatevs

mh, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link

I have read now Hickman's New Avengers up to #8 and Avengers to #13. Personally, I like the epic nature of the whole scope, even if some of the dialog is perhaps a bit stiff. I'm working on the last prelude to Infinity issues in Avengers and will start the main story next. I like it in that it feels big in the way some of Jim Starlin and Grant Morrison's cosmic comics seem. I like that Aim and the High Evolutionary showed up. It would seem that Eternity or the Celestials should show up at some point, if nothing else to see how they tie back into the Builders etc.

Funny thing is that the whole multi-verse in Marvel looks a heck of alot like the Bleed and the Monitors shown in Final Crisis. Perhaps it is all one and the same really...

earlnash, Thursday, 2 January 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link

I'm not sure if the Celestials are locked into Uncanny Avengers right now and they're unavailable or what

mh, Thursday, 2 January 2014 02:53 (ten years ago) link

Infinity and Hickman's run on Avengers is pretty good. It's probably the best big Marvel story since the Annhilation.

"I wonder why he bothered making Cannonball and Sunspot Avengers if he was hardly ever going to do anything with them."

I don't know, considering that neither character is really a key part of the big plot (at yet), I think he has incorporated both quite a bit, usually for levity. Maybe it is because I have been reading that era of Avengers in Essentials, but the scenes they do popup in remind me a bit of the old Beast/Wonderman friendship.

I also got caught up and read Mark Waid's Indestructible Hulk 1-16 and the Jeff Parker written Annual. That also was a pretty fun read. Walt Simonson's artwork on the 3 parter with Hulk and Thor versus Ice Giants was fantastic. It looked really good, much better than the few issues of Avengers Simonson did a while back.

earlnash, Saturday, 4 January 2014 06:57 (ten years ago) link

that's gotta be a bummer for that fanbase, niche as it is

Nhex, Monday, 6 January 2014 16:00 (ten years ago) link

not that it's a thing for me, but it's gotta demolish a lot of hard built canon; wonder if marvel will even pretend to honor that

Can't wait for some heroes to time travel too many times, crack open the universe, and have some jedi pop through into good ol' 616

mh, Monday, 6 January 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link

Han Solo/Bishop limited series teamup

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 6 January 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link

Darth Doom

bizarro gazzara, Monday, 6 January 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link

Darth Doom the Annihiliating Conquerer of Coruscant

mh, Monday, 6 January 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

Emperor Thanos.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 6 January 2014 16:42 (ten years ago) link

Avengers World really reminded me why I like Hickman. Just so many bat-shit ideas thrown into twenty pages.

Anything else worthwhile from ALL NEW NOW!!!

Frederik B, Thursday, 9 January 2014 01:48 (ten years ago) link

Superior Foes of Spider-Man has been fun. Bendis is doing his best work in a decade with the out of time X-Men. Al Ewing's Mighty Avengers is charming me despite Land's art, which is a mighty feat indeed. Others are loving Hawkeye and Young Avengers, though I'm ambivalent toward them at best.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 January 2014 02:16 (ten years ago) link

But I'm a few months behind. Is that the newest Hickvengers?

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 January 2014 02:17 (ten years ago) link

Okay, I just read about NOW2. Most of those look and sound dreadful. Phil Noto's Black Widow at least looks good.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 9 January 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link

Young Avengers just ended. Hawkeye rules. You have to get Mighty Avengers because of we support our own and it also happens to be great (plus it has Monica Rambeau in it). The X-Factor reboot was suprisingly fun but I like PAD on autopilot, so

SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 9 January 2014 04:06 (ten years ago) link

I wondered what happened to her after Nextwave

Nhex, Thursday, 9 January 2014 05:02 (ten years ago) link

But I'm a few months behind. Is that the newest Hickvengers?

― EZ Snappin, 9. januar 2014 03:17 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yup, with help from Nick Spencer (Superior Foes of Spider-Man). Hickman really makes people like Johns and Bendis look myopic with all their heroes-fighting-heroes stuff.

Last issue of Young Avengers was awesome.

Frederik B, Thursday, 9 January 2014 08:11 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, new x-factor was non-earth-shaking fun.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Thursday, 9 January 2014 09:52 (ten years ago) link

I really enjoyed the original Madrox detective show setup of X-Factor and lost interest when it drifted from that -- then read the last issue before the relaunch out of loyalty and was glad I skipped it. BUT what's the new one like?

Mighty Avengers has such a lovely tone of voice and hangout vibe, it's already a keeper - actually kind of reminds me of PAD's original X-Factor run from the 90s.

I still think Daredevil is terrific if also auto-piloty (but folks here are ambivalent)

Speaking of loyalty, I read Justice League 3000 and it made me :(

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 9 January 2014 10:17 (ten years ago) link

It looks like PAD is exploring the X-Statix/Youngblood idea of a corporate hero team, only with PAD-humor rather than overwhelming cynicism.

SHAUN (DJP), Thursday, 9 January 2014 12:59 (ten years ago) link

I'm just glad he's well enough to write anything at all.

Palsied Phlebotomist (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 January 2014 14:22 (ten years ago) link

i dig new direction iron man

this harmless group of nerds and the women that love them (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 January 2014 17:55 (ten years ago) link

Mighty Avengers has such a lovely tone of voice and hangout vibe, it's already a keeper - actually kind of reminds me of PAD's original X-Factor run from the 90s.

Oo, I think I'm sold. i loved that too-short run he did then.

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Friday, 10 January 2014 00:02 (ten years ago) link


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