Peanuts - Classic Or Dud?

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Tom (Groke), Sunday, 28 November 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

my first quasi-autonomous act as a would-be adult (i think i wz probably 9 or 10), on winning a £50 premium bond, was to send off (w/o alerting parents) for ALL of the (many) peanuts books on offer in the back of one of (few) the peanuts book i then owned: a few weeks later to the entire family's stupefaction and my insouciant pretend-unsurprise, a heavy box containing some 40 peanuts books was delivered

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 28 November 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I knew the TV cartoons first, but my brief interaction with the comic strip reprints suggests they might be the only good newspapers strip ever.

DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 28 November 2004 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

does anyone disagree with my only nominating the '60s strips?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 29 November 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorta, yeah. I think the entire run is just as classic as the 60s strips. I felt like there was a drop-off in quality in the mid to late 1980s, but Sparky's advancing age and infirmity in the 90s gave him a whole new well of despair to draw from, and it was devastating all over again.

I Am Curious (George) (Rock Hardy), Monday, 29 November 2004 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?041129fa_fact

cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 29 November 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Certainly it's good to be familiar with the very early and very late strips -- there's a lot to enjoy there -- but there's no question that the 60s were his definitive era.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 29 November 2004 08:51 (nineteen years ago) link

six years pass...

Hello ILC - I thought you needed to know about this: http://3eanuts.tumblr.com/

Maybe you already do.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lirx7nTe8p1qisuj3o1_500.png

(I hope that works - I haven't been here in a bit.)

I keep expecting the novelty to wear off, but I'm digging it more and more instead. I have to resist the urge to reblog damn near every one of them. The best ones just underscore the brilliance already inherent in Peanuts - I think the effect is very different from Garfield Minus Garfield, for instance.

Bill, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate to confess this, but it took me a half dozen strips before I realized the joke had already been removed, and I was trying to find the despair in the first two panels out of three.

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 00:59 (thirteen years ago) link

that blogger is seriously misreading Peanuts if he think the closing jokes "conceal the existential despair" of Charlie Brown's world. a lot of the power and tension of the strip comes from the way Schulz combines his dark observations of human nature with traditional comic strip goofiness without diluting either element. erasing the punchlines makes the strip less funny and less profound, which is suitable for tumblr but not for me.

now excuse me while I go through old Scooby Doo episodes and replace all the Scooby Snacks with pot brownies. Scooby and Shaggy were such stoners, amirite? and Peanuts is really depressing when you think about it.

administratieve blunder (unregistered), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link

unregistered otm, this is a shitty idea by a terrible reader

Neo Tony (sic), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Hm, I think that's a bit harsh, although I sort of agree.

Actually these make me want to read the original strip -- I feel like I'm missing something pivotal here, whereas the Garfield strips at least created a joke (albeit a black one) that wasn't there before. Which is to say, Garfield does conceal its despair, while Peanuts clearly (clearly!) doesn't.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, I think the "conceals its despair" stuff is off, but also irrelevant. The blogger's not doing what he thinks he's doing - if nothing else, removing the fourth panel just isn't going to have the same effect every time, and it's more obvious in some than others that something's been cut off. That just doesn't make the effect any less interesting to me.

Bill, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Just makes me want to reread all those strips, really. Like I totally forgot about Linus having to loan his blanket to his grandma when she was quitting smoking - what a great storyline for a comic strip! And god, how about that dialogue? "Well, it was on account of a blanket which I don't have, and I passed out four times on the way to school, and that sort of held me up and..."

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 2 April 2011 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

best peanuts thread possibly: Peanuts: Search and Destroy

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 2 April 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, there are a ton of great blanket storylines from that era -- there's the one where lucy takes the blanket and buries it in the yard, and another one where she makes it into a kite and lets it fly away! and then a really bizarre one where it comes to life (?) and starts attacking lucy.

was flipping through the latest 'complete' volume, from 79-80, the other day, and it's got some of his best later stories -- in particular a very weird one where the kids go to a summer camp which turns out to be a fundamentalist christian camp! remarkably subtle and well-done satire, espec considering the low reputation of these later strips.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 4 April 2011 06:53 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...
ten months pass...

So I'm working my way through the Fantagraphics books, I'm on 1963 at the moment, a great year, a few that I remember as a kid from the paperbacks or Snoopy Treasury etc:

There's this one weekend panel.

Charlie Brown is outside holding a clipboard with Schroeder and he's talking about putting Linus in left field, Schroeder asks him if he is sure, so CB bats a ball way up, Linus spots it from his porch, runs inside, takes the time to help Sally build an Empire State Building out of blocks, runs upstairs, leans out the window and catches the ball. Schroeder turns to CB and says, so what about *right* field?

Nothing special right? Point is I'm certain I've never seen the staircase in Linus' house before, just seeing that extra bit of detail made me so happy.

Late night with Amazing Bo (MaresNest), Wednesday, 17 April 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

great article

and there is something mildly upsetting about seeing this familiar yet deeply sad situation spelled out so precisely:

The sources of Snoopy's pain are not hard to find. He was taken from his family as a puppy, without his consent or choice: adopted into the family of a little girl called Lila, whom he loved very much, he was returned to the puppy farm because the family could not keep him. Charlie Brown is his second owner: in his resentment, he cannot even remember his owner's name (“It's kind of a complicated name…I have trouble with complicated names”).

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 8 October 2015 00:58 (eight years ago) link


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