Batman: The Animated Series

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Oh yeah. That, All-Star, and the first several years of Byrne & co.'s reboot are pretty much all the Superman I'll ever need.

Encyclopedia Beige and the Case of the Bland Sandwich (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link

STAS started off kinda slow but got real good by the end in my memories, same thing with Batman Beyond

Nhex, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

I especially dig how Kirby's Fourth World stuff slowly encroaches upon the light-hearted Superman adventures taking place in the foreground.

Encyclopedia Beige and the Case of the Bland Sandwich (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link

Wonder Woman was so dull and slow and colourgraded and not-about-a-woman that I walked out halfway through and saw The House instead

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

same with the justice league cartoon - started slowly then knocked it out of the park when it became unlimited

dipso inferno (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

that's true. though i'd say even by season 2 of JL they were killing it, like with that 2-part Joker ep

Nhex, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link

the Justice Gods one was also S2 i think

Nhex, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

If we want to make this a recommendation thread for the best DCAU episodes, I wouldn't complain.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 21 December 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

I decided to watch the recent Wonder Woman movie at motel room rental prices and fell asleep halfway into it. Such are vacation mistakes.

BTAS is still excellent every time I feel the need to rewatch. The balance of the animation style, noir tropes honored and subtly commented on, the little quips that paint Batman as self-aware, sometimes tragically, make it age well.

mh, Thursday, 21 December 2017 03:49 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

HFS @ Hopey Glass cameo in Batman, someone was having a lil fun at the animation studio that day

Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 July 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link

wait waht

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 July 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

I forget which episode it is but bruce wayne puts someone on a bus at the end of the episode and one of the other riders on the bus is v clearly Jaime’s Hopey.

Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 July 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link

I think it’s “I Am the Night”

Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 July 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

I noticed it a few nights ago while watching w my daughter but only just now remembered i meant to post about it cuz it was p unexpected

Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 July 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link

huh, awesome!

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 July 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

I'd about say Batman: The Animated Series might be the best version of Batman done. It ties together so many of the things from the comics in the right tone.

earlnash, Sunday, 8 July 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

kevin conroy is def the best batman ever

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 8 July 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link

ok it wasn't that episode and it wasn't some random character it was the Penguin and Hopey's cameo is at about 4:05 here: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x50of14

Οὖτις, Monday, 9 July 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link

ha! no chance that’s not supposed to be hopey

It's definitely Hopey, check the coat:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/iagainstcomics/hopey%20style/hopey5.jpg

Now I'm visualising a Love & Rockets animated series that would probably never happen in a million years.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Monday, 9 July 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

*wistful sigh*

jaime’s style would work so well in animation too

Hopey had a cameo in the tie-in Batman Adventures comics as well!

Duane Barry, Monday, 9 July 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link

That is *definitely* her. Nice spot!

iirc Cameron Stewart's 00s run on Catwoman is basically him doing Jaime for two years

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 11 July 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/how-paul-dini-and-mike-mignola-changed-mr-freeze-forever-plus-other-revelations-from-the

I did not know that Mignola was in any way involved in BTAS!

Captain Hardchord (Leee), Friday, 2 November 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link

The blu-ray set is a thing of glory.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 2 November 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link

https://imgur.com/gallery/D02OcwO is glorious and now I just remembered Herman von Klempt in HB and so this makes perfect sense.

Captain Hardchord (Leee), Friday, 2 November 2018 23:55 (five years ago) link

I've never seen the whole series, but I pretty much think the cartoon might be the best take on Batman ever. It is a perfect balance in many ways.

earlnash, Saturday, 3 November 2018 12:41 (five years ago) link

The TV show is the best Batman, and Mask of the Phantasm is still the best Batman movie.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 November 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link

I've long said (perhaps even itt) that if DC-related material can't meet or exceed the quality of the DCAU, the people involved probably just shouldn't bother.

a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Saturday, 3 November 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

Still, they persisted

Οὖτις, Sunday, 4 November 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

Has anyone seen the 2017 animated feature “Batman vs. Two-Face” (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6142314/)? My son has watched it a few times.

It’s pretty bad, but also weird/sad — the voices are performed by Adam West (shortly before his death), Burt Ward, Julie Newmar, William Shatner (as Harvey Dent), etc. So while it’s “cool” that they used the OG actors (plus, uh, Shatner), and got work for those folks, their voices do not exactly match the (young) characters... particularly in the case of West, who sounds unwell and geriatric. So it’s bizarre and somewhat grimly humorous to hear these voices coming from the animated 1966 Batman crew.

(One other odd thing is that Warner apparently doesn’t control the rights to the ’66 Batman theme music, and couldn’t bother clearing it? — so they have use a dumb knockoff of it, like any other fakey production.)

too busy or too stoned (morrisp), Sunday, 4 November 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

Warner had nothing to do with the show, so it's absolutely fine that they don't control the rights to the theme music

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Sunday, 4 November 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link

Sure, but it’s odd they would create a new movie set in the 1966 world, and go so far as to cast the OG actors for “authenticity,” yet give it an “off-brand” feel by imitating the theme rather than paying to use it.

too busy or too stoned (morrisp), Sunday, 4 November 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

How much was the fee, and what proportion of the overall budget was that?

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Sunday, 4 November 2018 21:49 (five years ago) link

Let me check my records... oh wait, I didn’t work on the production. Why you dragging me on this, LOL?

The theme is one of the most beloved and iconic aspects of the old series... whatever it cost to clear, perhaps it would have been more worth the expense than whatever it cost to hire Bill Shatner (who has nothing to do with the property)? Is his involvement drawing anyone to this thing? Meanwhile, when the knockoff music plays, it just sounds dumb and leaves you thinking, “huh, they cheaped out.”

too busy or too stoned (morrisp), Sunday, 4 November 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

I’m just saying it’s the opposite of “odd”!

Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Sunday, 4 November 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

I mean, we’re talking about a direct-to-video feature whose idea of a clever in-joke is a Catholic hospital called “Our Lady of Perpetual Irony,” so maybe I’m expecting too much. But the casting implies the movie will be “going the extra mile,” when it really stalls out at least 14 miles short of Gotham City.

too busy or too stoned (morrisp), Sunday, 4 November 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

I loved and still love B:TAS and the other DCAU series (well, most of the time), but I've never been particularly impressed by any of the animated specials that have come out since then. It's pretty disappointing seeing that on some occasions some of the same people were involved. The execution always seems half-assed.

Duane Barry, Sunday, 4 November 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link

man these blu-ray remasters are gorgeous huh

i want donald duck to scream into my dick (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 10:24 (five years ago) link

Worth buying if I have all the DVD boxes?

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 11:55 (five years ago) link

if you’re a btas stan and you’ve got the cash, definitely - the episodes look extraordinarily crisp and clear

check this handy comparison video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LZJ-HJsWHk

i want donald duck to scream into my dick (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link

i'm a sucker for these remasters when they're done well. they even managed to make TNG look beautiful!

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 12:16 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

yooooo Bruce Timm made an animated Sgt Rock short film!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtwZvaLbwnI

And Phantom Stranger too!
https://www.comicsbeat.com/dc-showcase-phantom-stranger-first-look/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

Has anyone else been watching The Caped Crusader? I'm loving it so far. A sort of elseworlds 40s golden age spiritual successor to B:TAS. I love how they pick and mix elements throughout the character's history - Harvey Bullock is his fully corrupt pre-Crisis self, for example. And given that the original Animated series bible included plans for the Gentleman Ghost (which never came to fruition) I'm glad Timm finally got to give him his own episode.

I have to admit I don't like this Batman as much as the B:TAS one, even if his coldness is definitely intentional. It makes sense that Rucka and Brubaker are involved, as he actually does feel like the late 90s/00s jerkass Batman.

Duane Barry, Sunday, 4 August 2024 23:35 (two months ago) link

The pilot was fun. Yes, it's nowhere near as good/perfect as B:TAS: the animation is shonkier; Gotham is a bit anonymous-looking; and I'm not really not sure about the weirdly antagonistic relationship between Bruce and Alfred (Bruce calls him "Pennyworth"!!). But - it's very enjoyable - darker without being grimdark - and still a kids' show at heart. Minnie Driver is really well cast (and pleasingly EVIL) as Penguin. The fight scenes are excellent -- you really feel it when someone gets clonked on the head -- it's weirdly fun. All the character remixes are interesting and grounded. I look forward to it getting better in the second season.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 6 August 2024 10:29 (two months ago) link

i'm not watching it but i've heard that _those_ guys are complaining about the penguin's look

as always, i find those folks absolutely hilarious. "what if the penguin was marlene dietrich but dummy thicc" makes me feel seen as a lesbian.

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 6 August 2024 13:34 (two months ago) link

You're right about the animation and backgrounds - I hadn't really noticed, maybe because a lot of streaming TV animation often has a flat, stiff look, and I don't go in with high expectations (so if the animation and visuals are good, then that's a bonus).

They seem to be avoiding the tragic villain route they used with some of the B:TAS villains, which is fine by me - that feels a bit overused by now

"Those" guys are complaining about lots of things, as they always do; I'm glad I never got into the Youtuber thing, though I do seem to need constant reminders to avoid reply sections on Twitter posts...

Duane Barry, Tuesday, 6 August 2024 23:51 (two months ago) link

Finished the season, and it's mostly OK. I kept expecting the animation to be done on the cheap but it's surprisingly solid, but the writing is missing some juice. A few episodes have nice, zingy dialogue (the Catwoman one), though. What's patroclus weird is that it has one foot in BTAS references (the voices of Bruce and Alfred being very clearly modeled on their BTAS counterparts) while consciously diverging from old school canon.

Élisabeth Vigée Lebron (Leee), Wednesday, 14 August 2024 20:19 (two months ago) link

It seems like a show for teenagers... from the 90s. All the references to US culture from the 1920s to 1950s - that stuff was still "live" in the culture when I was growing up in the eighties and nineties - b&w movies and old reruns were on the TV all the time. I'm curious what kids watching it today would make of it. There were very few good cartoons for teenagers when I was growing up - now it seems like 90% of new art is for 13-year-olds.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 14 August 2024 21:03 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Overall I really like Caped Crusader so far. Feels like the mix of set design inspiration from the 90s with remixed characters is a good formula. Harleen Q's episode was a high point for me and Onomatopoeia was fun and I loved lady Penguin. While I didn't dislike the episodes, I'm not really a fan of supernatural stuff in Batman so could've done without the classist ghost and vampire girl ones.

Batman turns out to be one of the least interesting characters, though I find that's often the case whatever medium we're in.

Interesting that this and X-Men 97 came out so near each other.

salsa shark, Friday, 30 August 2024 21:07 (two months ago) link


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