Rolling SERIOUS GRAPHIC LITERATURE Thread for Comics in 2016

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He has spina bifida. People are horrifying and vile.

There must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls (Old Lunch), Thursday, 30 June 2016 12:21 (seven years ago) link

I learned about him in Talbot's Naked Comic Book Artist and I read Spiral Cage after that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 30 June 2016 13:21 (seven years ago) link

xp Abrams is a red herring; their selection is limited to 11 books and only five of those are actually comics!
several of valiant's current relaunch series aren't half bad for capes and tights books and dynamite has a (very) few things to recommend it: the new Ellis Bond book, Bob's Burgers, Kirby Genesis (kinda?)... but yeah, as I was implying, this does not a usable service make

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

I think I've threatened to make a Valiant thread, but I have no impulse to read the 90s stuff and have fallen behind on the newer ones

Following this 4001AD crossover thing, though

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 30 June 2016 19:00 (seven years ago) link

I got my new Saga tpb in the mail the other day. It's as if Brian K. Vaughan heard all my particular concerns and moved the story in that direction! Still loving that little seal dude.

mh, Thursday, 7 July 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link

Create a Marc Bell mural in the Macdonell St Parking Lot

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 July 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link

I would like a Marc Bell mural in my neighborhood, too, please.

some anal dread (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 July 2016 14:20 (seven years ago) link

read Bill Griffith's "Invisible Ink" over the weekend, v good and full of stuff I had no idea about, like this Ed Emshwiller painted cover for which lil Bill was the model:
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zippythepinhead.com%2Fmedia%2Fscificover.jpg&f=1

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 July 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

It really does look like him.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 11 July 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link

is he supposed to be watching some futuristic version of Sgt. Bilko?

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 11 July 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Monday, 11 July 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

Just read Lucky Penny by Ananth Hirsh and Yuko Ota, makers of autobio webcomic Johnny Wander. Fun and sweet romantic comedy.

Nhex, Tuesday, 12 July 2016 11:16 (seven years ago) link

http://nobrow.net/shop/geis/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 21 July 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

i had heard good things. you read it?

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 21 July 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

it just occurred to me that at some point sergio aragonez and stan sakai are going to stop making comics and i don't know if that's going to be okay

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 21 July 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link

I haven't read the Alexis Deacon book but I've been familiar with his illustrations for a few years.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 21 July 2016 16:27 (seven years ago) link

I didn't even know Sergio Aragones was still doing comics! Isn't he like in 80s now?

Tuomas, Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

He's still doing Groo comics, even!

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

Coming out this month even! And not appreciably different from any of his work from the 80's...maybe even a little tighter!
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/3000-066?page=1

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link

His 'marginals' are still in every issue of Mad magazine too, afaik

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 21 July 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

Anyone know why Groo hasn't been properly collected yet? That and Flaming Carrot are the most puzzling omissions from the recent reprint renaissance.

Night Jorts (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 July 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link

tbh, who could possibly need (or read?) a complete Groo? It's like one story retold hundreds of times.
that said, i do have the complete (cbr) Groo.

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Thursday, 21 July 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

Flaming Carrot had much of the classic run collected in the late '90s, and really does not work in compendium form

There've been a few goes at collecting Groo, but they seem to founder on an insistence, whether Evanier's or an absence of negs requiring pre-press expenditure, on collecting a 120+ issue run in four-issue chunks, instead of pounding out 480pp phone books.

Shakey δσς (sic), Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:51 (seven years ago) link

Doesn't work in that it's meant to be read sporadically in individual slices?

mh, Thursday, 21 July 2016 23:56 (seven years ago) link

Yeah. And the weird grubbiness of it falters in a polite spine, too.

Shakey δσς (sic), Friday, 22 July 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link

sic, we've met and i've still never asked: what do you do that keeps you so plugged into the business side of comix? i seem to remember you did publishing for awhile?

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 22 July 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link

iirc he's a globehopping aficionado who has fancy drinks with people in the know about comics and takes pictures of cats while doing it

mh, Friday, 22 July 2016 01:28 (seven years ago) link

see that's what i got from the context clues but i can't help but feel i'm missing something

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 22 July 2016 01:29 (seven years ago) link

maybe the street cats have some comics gossip too

mh, Friday, 22 July 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link

iirc he's a globehopping aficionado who has fancy drinks with people in the know about comics and takes pictures of cats while doing it

people who have worked out how to live

He's actually a Watcher.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 22 July 2016 08:15 (seven years ago) link

tbh, who could possibly need (or read?) a complete Groo? It's like one story retold hundreds of times.

Well, I'd buy it! Of course, the perfect version of a Groo collection is twelve random Groo comics bought at a charity shop for two quid.

But something like the Jack Kirby collections - big paperbacks with newsprinty paper - would probably be the best toilet book ever.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 22 July 2016 10:40 (seven years ago) link

Yes, IIRC I remember Evanier saying something to the effect that because Groo has had so many different publishers (including defunct imprints like Pacific, Eclipse, Epic), some of the film negatives have gone missing, and that it would be costly to create new ones.

Also think that Groo's peak period was round about issues 30 to 60 of the Epic comic, so would disagree that every issue is the same.

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Friday, 22 July 2016 10:47 (seven years ago) link

Would almost rather have a DC archive collection of Plop, complete with the Aragones/Skeates strip that gave the comic its name.

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Friday, 22 July 2016 10:49 (seven years ago) link

Groo was my favorite thing in the universe when I was in junior high and those PC issues started coming out. Will gladly read any issue from any era. Aragones is a public utility.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 22 July 2016 11:39 (seven years ago) link

Anyone read Nijigahara Holograph? Very intriguing horror.

Nhex, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 04:25 (seven years ago) link

Carlos Nine died recently. Can't find any proper obituaries for him, which is a shame because he had some of the most incredible drawing ability of artists from recent comics past. Dungeon was possibly the only English translation of his work.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 14:59 (seven years ago) link

Well here's one from good old Paul Gravett
https://m.facebook.com/paulgravett/posts/10153604904586176

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 15:22 (seven years ago) link

Reading Rosalie Lightning right now, so devastating
Ilxor aero blurb on the cover

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 06:10 (seven years ago) link

It is :(

Nhex, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 06:58 (seven years ago) link

http://www.tcj.com/comics-criticism-seven-hot-takes-for-summer-2016/
Found some of this funny. I definitely hate relevancy critics.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 6 August 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

This man needs an editor

Nhex, Saturday, 6 August 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

Art Of Ploog book finally became available on amazon. I might regret it because it was £40 and probably too much text (as much as I love them, I don't think most of these type of comic artists are interesting to read about and they rarely open up much in interviews). But I find Ploog's art kind of refreshing and nice.
Also bought Crumb's Art And Beauty box on amazon.

This week at the book shop I got Alexis Deacon's Geis. I didn't realise it's the first in a trilogy.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 18 August 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

Ploog sequence from Heavy Metal is pretty much all you need to see from that movie.

Going Down On The Anals Of History (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 August 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

Also, Ploog is one of those guys who is waaaay better than he was when he was better known. If only Shrek looked as good as his concept art.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 18 August 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link

Guys, that Trondheim Mickey Mouse book was apparently just the first in a series of Eurocartoonist Disney books IDW is putting out. Just saw this one by Bernard Cosey in this month's solicitations.

An Automatic Response To Things That Are Bullshit (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 August 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link

Recently read Carol Tyler's Late Bloomer (I couldn't find Soldier's Heart), which was so razor-sharp about everything and generally completely amazing, Rachael Ball's The Inflatable Woman (stunning and dissociative madness), and all of Ariel Schrag's High School Chronicles (just about the most enjoyable thing I've ever read, all the more impressive for having been completed by the age of 19).

In the process of starting a webcomic, but I have zero experience and really, artistic aptitude. I'm hoping it's something that just gathers speed the more you work at it... Are there any ILXors with comics or graphic novels in evidence? I'm sure there must be, but wouldn't know where to look.

Mike Ploog's art book has far too much of his 70s Marvel art* and not enough of his fantasy card art. Lots of film concept art and storyboards, it's always surprised me the films he's worked on, it even has storyboards for Polanski's aborted Master And The Margarita. The cover recreations are kind of nice sometimes but again, it didnt deserve that amount of space.
The people who made this clearly love Ploog's work but it seems like they're favouring big franchises over what is actually his better work.

* I don't get this fashion for huge books reproducing original comic art that doesn't really benefit from that format. The original pages for Stardust Kid were far more beautiful and there's some good ones that should have been in there.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 28 August 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

Crumb's Art And Beauty book is very nice but the commentary and the fact that a lot of these drawings are from candid photographs makes it creepy at times. Like his claim that the Apache dance reaffirms that it doesn't pay for men to be too nice because women like dangerous men.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 28 August 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link


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