Elmo: I actually spent most of the book wishing for MORE supernatural stuff, creatures and magic. If I'm going to read fantasy, it might as well be fantastic. Every time I got a whiff of a spell or a mythical creature, the curtain seemed to be pulled across the screen.
Still, I'm going to read the rest of the books. Despite the drawbacks mentioned above, the characters and potentialities are completely addictive, and I can just feel that something good is going to happen soon. I hope.
― zan, Sunday, 8 January 2006 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Sunday, 8 January 2006 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Sunday, 8 January 2006 04:29 (eighteen years ago) link
But, yes read, read, read, remy.
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Sunday, 8 January 2006 08:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 January 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 January 2006 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 9 January 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link
*Well actually at the moment I'm "checking" ILX but I'll get back to the ozalids in two shakes.
― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ray (Ray), Thursday, 12 January 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Just to check: 'end of book 3' is by name halfway through book 3, yes?
I like the different main characters for every chapter, and in particular the way that not all of them survive the end of their latest chapter.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Saturday, 14 January 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ray (Ray), Sunday, 15 January 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
i just started game of thrones. it's pretty addictive.
some of the prose is pretty horrible but still dude knows how to keep you hooked.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 15 September 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Despite literally billions of personal recommendations, I've never been able to get into the Game of Thrones copy I bought several years ago.
Last year I bought Dreamsongs (that whacking great short story omnibus) but haven't looked at it yet. Surprised it's not been mentioned here.
― You touched me officer, sorry (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 15 September 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
SPOILERS ALERT
there's no way the hound is dead, right? it's like that 3 chapters in storm of swords where they led us to believe bran & rickon had been killed, but weren't, right?!!!
― did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i'd like to kick him in the balls at least once for every time he pulls that trick tbh
― thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean it's such fucking lazy writing. i basically can't avoid "so is this guy actually dead? *flicks ahead*", or if i'm feeling lazy *googles*.
since daenerys was not directly involved with any of the other characters in the first book, it quickly became boring to me. on subsequent readings i read them, obv. and by the middle or end of the second book she becomes one of the most interesting characters.
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion)
I like how this seems to imply that Daenerys actually is involved with other characters in the later books. (No, X doesn't count.)
― thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
btw my crazy theory is that jon snow is not actually ned's son but the son of lyanna stark and rhaegar targaryen that ned claimed for his own to protect him from the lannisters. eventually he and daenarys will hook up and rule all the known fucking world.
― did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
haha i'd forgotten that that was ever even a thing
― thomp, Saturday, 27 March 2010 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
nick i think that's everyone's crazy theory who ever spent actual time speculating on these books
there's a pretty obvious "general direction of plot" by the end of book 4 though (dany ends up on the main continent with everyone else and joins the power struggle, some great evil force attacks from the north). you don't create something like the wall if its not gonna be the site of a big important battle scene.
god i'm not looking forward to rereading all 4 books when the 5th one's finally announced but i don't really remember 90% of the plot details
― ciderpress, Saturday, 27 March 2010 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Started reading the first book this week...I may have to quit my job and devote my life to these books. Love, love LOVE. And I'm only 200 pages in!
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link
this is like when a good friend is so excited to introduce you to the new guy theyre dating and you realize its some good looking dude you know who serially cheats on his gfs and makes them pay for dinners
― Lamp, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:34 (thirteen years ago) link
lol otm
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link
oh so it's one of THOSE series. Is this like the Dark Tower where I will need years of therapy to get over the carnage?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JjTZojojDPI/SxPR-ffvWkI/AAAAAAAAAok/bzrrZEsb1T4/s1600/0007stfc.jpg
― Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:56 (thirteen years ago) link
wow
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:57 (thirteen years ago) link
That's pretty much my favorite picture ever. Of anything.
― Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:58 (thirteen years ago) link
George has figured out how to live, obv
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link
lol yes
― Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link
can anyone explain that picture please
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link
I could but it's better if you don't know.
― Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
okay that's cool
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks for looking out for me
Gotta be something to do with the tv show shoot, right? Or no?
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh oops, if its decided not to know then I'll shut up
Listen can't we just leave it at that's just how he rolls?
― Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
(VG otm - it was taken at a wrap party ;) but I prefer to think it's just another night in the life)
― Sheenastia Easton (ENBB), Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link
haha i only read the first one, but
it's cool that you are willing to kill off main characters, but not that coolyour middle initials are "r.r."? c'monI just finished book #10 of Robert Jordan's stupid series.
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link
started to wonder if it was a fanfic thing or maybe wrote porn on the side and then it got kinda lolol in my head
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm really bad about starting a new fantasy series, because I always think "Ugh great now I have to learn a bunch of weird names and stupid maps and ugh wtf is this language" but they're never as bad as I make them out to be and the funniest part is I havent yet met a fantasy series I didn't love. I just wait 5 years between reading a new series, lol
― VegemiteGrrrl, Saturday, 29 January 2011 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/110302/a-dance-with-dragons_240.jpg
A Dance With Dragons will be published on July 12. The manuscript is huge — the publisher estimates the hardcover edition will run more than 900 pages, putting it about the same length as the longest book in the series, A Storm of Swords. Schedule your summer vacation accordingly.ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What took so long?GEORGE R. R. MARTIN: I’m not sure I have a good answer. If I did, I would have taken less time. It’s enormous. It’s as long as A Storm of Swords. It’s very complicated. I have a lot of characters and points of view. And I’ve been doing a ton of rewriting, trying to get it where I wanted it to be. Some of these chapters I’ve rewritten more times than I can count before I’m satisfied with them.Can you tease something from the book?I don’t want to spoil any surprises. I can say all the characters people have been waiting for are there: Daenerys, Jon Snow, and Tyrion. There’s also new characters, and viewpoints from characters who did not have viewpoints before.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What took so long?GEORGE R. R. MARTIN: I’m not sure I have a good answer. If I did, I would have taken less time. It’s enormous. It’s as long as A Storm of Swords. It’s very complicated. I have a lot of characters and points of view. And I’ve been doing a ton of rewriting, trying to get it where I wanted it to be. Some of these chapters I’ve rewritten more times than I can count before I’m satisfied with them.
Can you tease something from the book?I don’t want to spoil any surprises. I can say all the characters people have been waiting for are there: Daenerys, Jon Snow, and Tyrion. There’s also new characters, and viewpoints from characters who did not have viewpoints before.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 3 March 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Finally!
― Number None, Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
the red wedding actually ranks as one of the most genuinely shocking plot turns I have encountered as a reader, I was like daaaaaaaamn
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
oh god, yes
I remember actually spluttering at the book when that happened because I just KNEW someone was going to escape
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
also it seems like the show might already be laying the groundwork for the Improved Jaime Lannister, which was took me a while to buy into in the books
(which I'm guessing is because Martin didn't have that plotted from the outset, so it was natural to make early Jaime more str8 villainous)
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
I hope the show lasts that long. I genuinely can't see it going the distance though. How many seasons has HBO's longest running drama had i wonder?
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
that video, from the other thread? that is how i felt
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
i thought the jamie rehabilitation was so well done that is had to be p well planned but maybe my recollection is generous
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
I actually cackled a bit once I realized that dude was all in---like "oh shiiiiiiit you are really going for it"
plot thing I keep getting faked out on: arya reuniting with nymeria. he's feinted at it a couple times (mostly around Harenhall), but I'm beginning to wonder if it's all a red herring
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
jamie rehabilitation makes me sad that him and tyrion are going to have to kill each other, i wish they could just go on road trips together, the brothers one-hand and shorty
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
p much
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
that shit makes ned dying feel like a happy effing ending
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
maybe i am giving way way too much credit, but i thought that having the starks and the lannisters starting off as the too-obvious good and evil sides of the series and then massacring them and turning two of the remaining lannister adults into 'good guys' was genius.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
w/r/t jaimes rehab: it was done well, but I sensed a...break between how he was rendered in the first book and how he was later developed, is all. like all the stuff about aerys' cruelty and w/e seemed like it was conceived after the first book
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Well we only see Jamie through other people's eyes at first, and mainly from a distance
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
jamie doesnt get a p.o.v. in the first book though
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
Agreed! Just think the decision to do this hadn't been made at the outset is all.
Anyway how will Joffrey die is what I want to know
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
ahhhhhh that's it
like duh of course
hey gbx, out of interest, where are you up to. are you just past the red wedding?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
arya becomes a faceless man, travels to westeros to do the deed, pipped to the post by....littlefinger? loras? a tragic and lolzy riding accident? ~dragons?
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
I'm all the way through it
wait, all the way thru the 4?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
y
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
and you're asking how Joffrey will die...?
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
i was trying to think of an oblique, non-spoilery way of saying that.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
god I am dumb
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
like I actually had to think for a second
ANYWAY
pretend i meant cersei
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
loll
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
i actually dont really want cersei to die, i just want her to be thrown out of power and disgraced and humiliated.
the freys, i want to die. all of them. slowly.
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, i kind of feel bad for Fat Walda
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
btw is coldhands actually benjen stark y/n
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
walder dying would be too inconsequential because he is thereabouts already. would rather see him humiliated. all of his heirs dying would be p hilarious, the continuation of his line being probably the one certainty he has in life. the gods should tear down the twins. surprise volcano.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
xp almost feels too obvious, but probably. did they burn thorin?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
Coldhands = Benjen is certainly the most common theory. I have no idea though really
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
uh, qhorin
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
Had Sam never seen Benjen?
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
Don't think so
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah he was gone when sam showed up
is theon the most pitiable character, y/n
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
I've said this before on here but for some reason i'm still clinging to the notion that Theon will redeem himself
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
if it were any other series id say that theon will kill the bastard bolton but martin doesnt like neat tie-ups like that
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
kinda worried about rickon. wonder if after the ultimate happy ending someone will stumble upon the skeleton of a little boy and a direwolf in a ditch to sour it.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
would serve him right, hes a bad lil kid
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
i think theon will do something that ~ought~ to redeem him, but it will be anonymous or mistaken as someone else's work or something
xp rickon's gonna turn into a gollum like little dude
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
what are the odds Theon is somehow going to end up getting tossed out of the Eyrie
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
Thinking along the same lines gbx
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
maybe instead of seeing things through his wolf, Rickon's wolf is seeing things through him
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
rickon and his wolf being assholes are kind of a counterpoint to the whole lannisters-becoming-good thing. maybe by the end of the book there will have been a full volte-face.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
dany + jon fight back the others, reunite and secure the kingdom, then shaggydog fucks them up. fin.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
maybe the book series ends with Daenerys reclaiming the throne and proclaiming a new age of peace, offering amnesty to all of the other noble families and marrying Jamie to bolster her coffers, only to be assassinated by a vengeful Arya
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
haha how many martin threadz are there on ilx?
fuck the freys tho, srsly, hang them all
― neti pot, kombucha, how to die alone (Lamp), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
I am almost done w/ the first book and so far it seems like the book is divided so:
25% descriptions of food 25% descriptions of what people are wearing25% of how women are useless25% hodgepodge of cursing, sex, and what the spirit animal of each house is
― USADA Bin Dopen (dayo), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
i clicked on this so quickly thinking 'did he die c'mon c'mon dead george martin c'mon'
― thomp, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link