Spring is sprung in 2015: What Are You Reading, Vernally Speaking?

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The wintertime 2015 WAYR thread has worn itself out in the service of ILB. It is time for a new one, as youn helpfully pointed out. Welcome. Both coffee and tea are available on a self-serve basis on the table at the back wall of the forum.

Last night I polished off Cocktail Time by P.G. Wodehouse. It was up to his average.

I am also about 2/3rds of the way through Alan Watts' first book: The Meaning of Happiness. It is more prolix than his subsequent books, but shows where his thinking was more rooted in Jungian and Anglican ideas as he began his career.

Aimless, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link

i'm reading Secret Prey by John Sandford. because i can't stop reading his books. and because i have read all the Jack Reacher books. all my fancy books are crying in the corner. although i prefer Sandford's Virgil Flowers books to his Lucas Davenport books. but only by a little. they all kinda blend together after awhile. kinda like Wodehouse kinda!

scott seward, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 20:05 (nine years ago) link

Re-reading Alexander MacLeod's fine short story collection Light Lifting.

That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

I read Tom McCarthy's Satin Island and it was ok. Sort of nothing-y. Now I'm reading the new Richard Price (or whatever his nom de plume is for this one), The Whites. It's super Richard Price-y, in a good way.

lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link

Continuing to alternate contemporary lit, science fiction, canon. So most recently: Moby Dick, Dune, We Are All Completely Beside Ourselves, Madame Bovary, Wolf In White Van, and just started Dune Messiah. Next subset (getting away from 19th Century for the moment): prob. either Invisible Man or On The Road, Redeployment, and Children of Dune fer shure. Then prob back to Melville, most likely Pierre Or The Ambiguities. What new/new-ish contemporary lit should I read then?

dow, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link

In lieu of a more useful or focused recommendation: some of my favorite recently-published books have been Casey Plett's A Safe Girl to Love, Imogen Binnie's Nevada, Luiselli Valeria's Faces in the Crowd (fiction), CA Conrad's A Beautiful Marsupial Afternoon, Claudia Rankine's Citizen: An American Lyric (amalgams of essays and poetry), Leslie Jamison's Empathy Exams (essays), Kiese Laymon's How to Slowly Kill Yourself and Others in America, and Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore's The End of San Francisco (political critique in an autobiographical mode).

one way street, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 23:36 (nine years ago) link

Er, Valeria Luiselli, I mean.

one way street, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link

Thanks, I've been meaning to read Citizen, will check the others too. In contemporary lit I tend to look for what might be called magic realism, or what science fiction etc. fans call slipstream, with sf, fantasy-associated influences, so, in recent years, I've enjoyed Zone One (which works as lit x genre), Vampires In The Lemon Grove, A Visit From The Goon Squad, No One Is Here Except All of Us, and the previously mentioned novels by Karen Joy Fowler and John Darnielle. Didn't get into The Tenth of December and Life After Life as much as expected. Also waiting for vol. 3 of The Neapolitan Novels, ordered by my local library.

dow, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link

Read/heard good things about Kelly Link too.

dow, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link

Oh yeah, I really liked The Leftovers too.

dow, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 23:54 (nine years ago) link

Started spring with a bunch of essay collections by fiction writers: Woolf's Street Haunting and Other Essays collects quite a range in the 'other'. Essays on people -- where she shows a Hazlitt like handling, from the lightly ironic to more acidic tones towards her subjects -- and then class (natch), with "The Leaning Tower" being a highlight (two page stretch of her speculations around what the novel would look like in a world free of inequality is akin to Trotsky doing something similar in his own essays on lit if I very dimly recall). The way it ends is how I feel I am as someone who reads -- it could almost be an ILB manifesto. As a collection its a good sample of her essays though I think it needs more concentration in perhaps a specific area for me. Really like to read her on Joyce (says w/trepidation). Bolano's Between Parenthesis, mostly collecting a bunch of his columns written for newspapers - two-to-three pages at most. Only a 1/3 of the way through so I'd say that he is in no way a critic, a lot of his remarks are on Spanish-language writers he knows and likes and just says 'buy this k tx bye' (or it comes off that way). Its put together as book-after-book, giving it a delirious quality -- lived life as an orgy of reading -- functioning as a biography of sorts. There are few writers that I didn't know about that I want to go on and read though. One thing that is coming out is how I feel a lot about boom writers these days - that ambition on the one and unevenness on the other, cf. his remarks on Donoso. Now in the final stretch of Yourcenar's Mishima: A Vision of the Void. I think I've read nearly everything of his (bar the pays) translated and published in English a few years ago now - but never any commentary, so its good on that level (though I wish I had re-read a bunch before tackling this). She is right that a big stumbling block proves to be a lack of knowledge around Buddhism when it comes to reading The Sea of Fertility, where you really don't where to go with the drama a lot of the time given underpinned it all is by reincarnation. Yourcenar is v weak on what caused his suicide. She said she wouldn't use psychology, but then she tries to use a few facts -- the Nobel prize going to Kabawata, that he was a star in Japan but nowhere else, isolation in Western trips, which is slim as soon as I say it, but she sort of leaves it there for you to sort out. Anyway I'm on the last 1/3rd of that so hopefully it will go somewhere but for the moment its a v needed piece of commentary on the works, and what we need is a rescuing of the works from the author.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 2 April 2015 09:26 (nine years ago) link

I finished the Watts book. It was a good refresher.

I have a public library copy of DFW's posthumous essay collection Both Flesh and Not Flesh. I may open it next and read a few. I'm not expecting anything great, since these are partly the sweepings that were left uncollected during his lifetime.

Giant Purple Wakerobin (Aimless), Thursday, 2 April 2015 16:56 (nine years ago) link

read some cioran, many years after having last read him

i know there were plenty of nouveau roman-istes or whatever but it's funny to read him hammering on the nature of the novelistic art and feel like every single thing is about beckett, he sure did a number on mid 20th-c criticism huh

j., Thursday, 2 April 2015 17:42 (nine years ago) link

In Plain Sight: The Life and Lies of Jimmy Savile by Dan Davies (not great. the savile book is yet to be written)
Peter Brown's The Rise of Western Christendom
Plato's Crito, very very slowly

woof, Thursday, 2 April 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

very very greekly?

j., Thursday, 2 April 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link

Thanks, I've been meaning to read Citizen, will check the others too. In contemporary lit I tend to look for what might be called magic realism, or what science fiction etc. fans call slipstream, with sf, fantasy-associated influences,

dow, did you ever read Bolaño's Amulet? It seems to be one of his more-neglected short novels, but it has a fractured, hallucinatory quality you might like. Out of those fiction recommendations, Faces in the Crowd probably has the closest relation to what you're looking for--the Binnie and Plett books are mostly realist, and important to me in part for how they distance themselves from the sentimental and dehumanizing conventions for writing about trans lives.

one way street, Thursday, 2 April 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link

Thanks for the tips, will check. 2666 still passes through my head fairly often. I like realism too, especially Ferrante and The Way We Live Now Really want to check this novel by a young Vietnamese-American; amazing description here (very thorough too--those who worry about spoilers might want to stop reading before the last couple of grafs):
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/books/review/the-sympathizer-by-viet-thanh-nguyen.html?_r=0

dow, Friday, 3 April 2015 00:06 (nine years ago) link

Winding down on my Scando crime binge as winter finally recedes here in the northeast US. I'll spare the gory details other than to say from the second level of authors, Iceland's Arnaldur Indridason is best in class. Currently finishing his Outrage then going all-in w/non-fiction until the new Richard Price arrives in my library queue. Last month or two I've also read two by Alfred's buddy Christopher Hitchens. Blood Class & Empire is a breezy stand-alone on the "special relationship" between US/UK, certainly diverting & informative but leaves me wondering about its historical points. Unacknowledged Legislation: Writers In The Public Sphere is a collection of reviews and essays, an appropriately mixed bag where I enjoyed the pieces on contemporaries far more than classics but you may well think the opposite. Also read Robert Christgau's memoir Going To The City which I will address in length soon, perhaps on ILM. Currently reading David Remnick's Lenin's Tomb as well and liking it much more than expected.

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:21 (nine years ago) link

just finished the man in the high castle - was decent but a bit stupid in the end i thought. the last chapters were fairly disappointing. good concept tho and mostly well delivered.

just started a collection of carson mccullers short stories - really good stuff so far.

Junior Dictionary (LocalGarda), Friday, 3 April 2015 11:23 (nine years ago) link

gave up on a couple alice munro story collections (runaway & dear life), idk wasn't feeling them @ all

reading joyce carol oates 'blonde' & also Stanley kaufman's 'figures of light' collected film crit

johnny crunch, Friday, 3 April 2015 12:10 (nine years ago) link

very very greekly?

ha, yeah, with a lot of hand-holding

woof, Friday, 3 April 2015 12:15 (nine years ago) link


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dow, Friday, 3 April 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link

Belle and Sebastian - The Paris Review

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Friday, 3 April 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link

it's really really hard for me to find lydia davis books. in the real life real world. i look when i go to bookstores. gotta go to a chain store if i can find one. actually amherst books probably has her stuff. i should have bought them all when i lived in philadelphia.

scott seward, Friday, 3 April 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link

o ive also been reading 'brief encounters with the enemy' a story collection by said sayrafiezadeh, its really good

johnny crunch, Saturday, 4 April 2015 03:19 (nine years ago) link

Has anyone read Maria Dermout’s The Ten Thousand Things, as discussed in this interview with Robert Creeley? http://www.dalkeyarchive.com/a-conversation-with-robert-creeley-by-bruce-comens/
Looks intriguing.

Is It Because I'm Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 April 2015 00:04 (nine years ago) link

I have! It was a few years ago and I'm away from home so I can't remind myself but as I recall I enjoyed it a lot in a kind of woozy / misty not-sure-what's-happening-but-enjoying-the-process way.

Tim, Sunday, 5 April 2015 13:07 (nine years ago) link

God, Righteous Dopefiend is one of the most painful books I've ever read. Just unbelievable descriptions of prolonged suffering abetted by inhumane or ineffectual institutions.

I'm about to start The Children of Sánchez: Autobiography of a Mexican Family by Oscar Lewis.

jmm, Sunday, 5 April 2015 17:13 (nine years ago) link

reading Trophy Hunt by C.J. Box. i've moved my crime to Wyoming from Sandford's Minnesota. from muskie fishing to moose mutilation.

scott seward, Sunday, 5 April 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

I'd like to read Hilary Mantel's interview in the PR. I think she is great.

the pinefox, Monday, 6 April 2015 08:19 (nine years ago) link

I'm about to start The Children of Sánchez: Autobiography of a Mexican Family by Oscar Lewis.

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I just bought this the other day! Haven't started it but it definitely looks interesting.

.robin., Tuesday, 7 April 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link

halfway through Mark Grief's "The Age of the Crisis of Man"--it's fine but very much in that style of middlebrow scholarship that Princeton UP likes to churn out.

ryan, Tuesday, 7 April 2015 14:30 (nine years ago) link

xp Yeah, I think it looks interesting too. I've read the prologue and first chapter now and it's what I was hoping for, an odd kind of unbroken first-person novelistic ethnography. I'll have to read the supplementary stuff afterwards because I'm curious how much editing it took to turn what I assume were interview notes into something with the form of a novel.

jmm, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link

I read Random Family by Adrian Nicole Blanc years ago and loved it, sounds like its very much along the same lines.

.robin., Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:29 (nine years ago) link

John Williams' Stoner, should have read some of the opinions here before purchasing as its unremitting grey grind is not doing anything for me right now. Coming on the back of Good Morning Midnight (which at least had some garish colour to its misery) and a poor Ackroyd (The House of Doctor Dee, meandering and arbitrary), I feel like I need some cheerful uncomplicated whimsy.

ledge, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:00 (nine years ago) link

It isn't cheerful.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:05 (nine years ago) link

Append "instead" to my post.

ledge, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 12:27 (nine years ago) link

I dabbled briefly with The Stones of Florence, Mary McCarthy. She wrote it in 1958, so all the contemporary details are from that era, but I set it aside after one evening. She was name dropping Renaissance artists and political figures with whom I was unfamiliar, in great profusion. I found I was unwilling to stop every minute to educate my ignorance of these figures and of Florentine politics, geography, noteworthy chapels, museums and other landmarks in general, and without such an effort it seemed like every paragraph was filled with gaping holes in the form of proper nouns.

In its place I started reading The Lady and the Monk, Pico Iyer, about his 4 years living in Kyoto at the end of the 80s. It doesn't presume the reader has an education in depth on the history of the city and all its more famous inhabitants of the past 1000 years.

Giant Purple Wakerobin (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Wonder how Vidal In Venice reads? (Also a mini-series doc, posted on YouTube.) He lived there for quite a while, I think. Some full-length essays, excerpts of others (and fiction) on his site: http://www.gorevidalpages.com/gore-vidal-about-gore-vidal/
Random Family! Yeah, I endorsed that on ILE's True Crime thread: time & changes in the projects, also prison for some, incl. Boy George, a prodigy and local legend, who greets his 20s serving life with 0 parole for drug dealing. (Part of the Nelson Rockefeller legacy--wonder how that's going?) It's a fairly metamorphic panorama, without being "geological" in the slow-ass sense. Reminds me of The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter. RF was a highlight of my self-assigned reading program, New York On Two Books a Month.

dow, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

i started reading The Drop by Michael Connelly. thus continuing my epic quest to become my father.

scott seward, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link

I'm going out of town and about to start Marlon James' A Brief History of Seven Killings, anyone read it?

lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 9 April 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link

his 4 years living in Kyoto

Correction: 4 seasons, iow one year. The management regrets the error.

Giant Purple Wakerobin (Aimless), Thursday, 9 April 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link

Claudia Rankine's Citizen: An American Lyric (amalgams of essays and poetry),

Seen much raving for this. Would non-American get much out of it, or do you need to be up on minutiae of american race/racism/culture?

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Friday, 10 April 2015 01:29 (nine years ago) link

you do not

j., Friday, 10 April 2015 01:48 (nine years ago) link

in fact there is a passage on a brit which americans will be vague/clueless on and a passage on the futbol

j., Friday, 10 April 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link

Dicekns - Bleak House - hard for me to finish it.

Acheba - Man Of The People - masterpiece.

Look Homeward Angel - mmm...

nostormo, Friday, 10 April 2015 06:34 (nine years ago) link

I'm going out of town and about to start Marlon James' A Brief History of Seven Killings, anyone read it?

yes, heartily recommend. contains both epic sweep and grain of everyday life. patois a little tough at first, but I soon got w/rhythms, so to speak.

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Friday, 10 April 2015 11:44 (nine years ago) link

"Look Homeward Angel - mmm..."

reading thomas wolfe in 2015 is a bold move! i think if you look up the word unfashionable in the dictionary...

scott seward, Friday, 10 April 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link

Forget it, skot, it's ILBtown

You Play The Redd And The Blecch Comes Up (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 April 2015 16:41 (nine years ago) link

Thomas Wolfe and Tom Wolfe (60s pieces) my high school freshman salvation

dow, Friday, 10 April 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

shouldn't that be

John Ashbery - Alfred, Lord Sotosyn

then

― j., Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:40 PM

DON: Well, yeah.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 June 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link

Sei Shōnagon is so good. I love all of the list entries.

126. Things That Should Be Large

Priests. Fruit. Houses. Provision bags. Inksticks for inkstones.

Men's eyes: when they are too narrow, they look feminine. On the other hand, if they were as large as metal bowls, I should find them rather frightening.

Round braziers. Winter cherries. Pine trees. The petals of yellow roses.

Horses as well as oxen should be large.

127. Things That Should Be Short

A piece of thread when one wants to sew something in a hurry.

A lamp stand.

The hair of a woman of the lower classes should be neat and short.

The speech of a young girl.

jmm, Saturday, 6 June 2015 18:33 (eight years ago) link

So, speaking of novels in dialogue, like Burnett and Green, the library shop suddenly has a big shiny hard copy of A Frolic of His Own, but seems like some ILBers found it disappointing, compared to Gaddis' previous. The Times reviewer, despite caveats, has just the opposite take. Almost all of its many blurbs either reference his earlier works or just generally praise his style etc. On the other hand, it did win the 1994 National Book Award.
I would just buy the damn thing, since it's very cheap, but running out of room, so have to picky. What do yall think of it?

dow, Saturday, 6 June 2015 18:58 (eight years ago) link

I haven't read any other Gaddis fiction.

dow, Saturday, 6 June 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

It's definitely worth reading, but I wouldn't start with it--the pacing seems slacker and the satire more monotonous than was the case with his earlier work. If you're put off by the length and difficulty of the earlier novels, try Carpenter's Gothic.

one way street, Saturday, 6 June 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

how's matos' book

flopson, Saturday, 6 June 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

Seconding A Frolic of His Own as definitely worth reading.

cwkiii, Sunday, 7 June 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

how's matos' book

really really really good imo

Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Sunday, 7 June 2015 04:45 (eight years ago) link

So Shantytown was amazingly fun; I give it my highest recommendation, although of course with the caveat (for those new to Aira's work) that there is nothing like a conventionally satisfying ending.

Satantango took a little while to get its hooks in me, with its relentlessly dense single-paragraph chapters (I thought my Thomas Bernhard experience might help but their common ground is basically zero); three chapters in, I've started to pick up on the rhythms of the prose & I'm finding my way a little easier. Probably good that I recently stopped smoking weed, as there's a lot to keep track of.

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Sunday, 7 June 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

I am now reading a translation of Callirhoe, one of the first novels still extant, written in Greek, probably in the first century AD, but possibly earlier. It is a potboiler about the most beautiful woman in the world and her many tribulations.

One thing that makes it interesting is that it is written for an audience who took for granted an entire world that has since disappeared. Another is that, although it has an operatic plot and uses crude narrative devices no modern novelist would consider, it has enough psychological nuance and sophistication to strike many notes of enduring truth. Which definitely makes it literature, despite the melodrama. I'm enjoying it.

Aimless, Monday, 8 June 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

i'm reading The Game-Players Of Titan. which is also kinda melodramatic in a Greek way.

scott seward, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 03:04 (eight years ago) link

hey who's the other person reading satantango/how are you liking it

& is it just me or has the film become really hard to find

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 June 2015 11:48 (eight years ago) link

I finally started Us Conductors, by ILXor and award-winning novelist sean gramophone :) I got it for Christmas and last night I read the first two chapters. It is by turns gripping and really lovely, and such a fantastic unusual story that I can't believe it's never been fictionalised before.

franny glasshole (franny glass), Friday, 12 June 2015 12:40 (eight years ago) link

just finished karate chop, by dorthe nors. really enjoyed it.

just started white noise by don delillo - i already like this a lot more than other delillo i've read - a co-worker recommended to me - very funny so far.

bureau belfast model (LocalGarda), Friday, 12 June 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link

I've been rereading Hamsun's Hunger. I read it for the first time in 1972. It is difficult to believe this was published in 1890. It was unlike any book ever published up to then and still seems like a singular achievement, even if you put it up against any book written since then. The same material in the hands of anyone else writing at the time (or in any other era, tbf) would have turned toward pathos in the first two pages and stayed there relentlessly, but Hamsun manages to avoid it entirely. It's like watching a magician at work. Great book!

Aimless, Friday, 12 June 2015 16:50 (eight years ago) link

have you read any other Hamsun? I never went beyond Hunger (which is a fascinating book) due to leeriness of fascist tendencies

Heroic melancholy continues to have a forceful grip on (bernard snowy), Friday, 12 June 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link

I've read four or five other Hamsun novels. None of them are as groundbreaking as Hunger was, or even resemble it much. His other novels tell much more conventional stories. I learned a lot about life in Norwegian coastal villages at the turn of the twentieth century from them and enjoyed many of his characters, but Hunger stands alone as his great work of creative genius.

His fascism isn't evident in his work up to 1930 and I've never read his work beyond that period. He was very much a mythologizer and a Scando-romantic, so that aspect of fascism is probably what captured him, not the violent anti-Semitism.

Aimless, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link

I started counting up the Hamsun I've read. Came to eight. Mostly read them before 1976, but I've reread a few since then.

Hunger
Pan
Mysteries
Victoria
Growth of the Soil
Wayfarers
Wanderers
The Women at the Pump

Aimless, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link

JUst went out and bought a stack of things from charity shops again while looking for copies of Game of Thrones which I'd had to take back to the library largely unread.
THese include John Kennedy Toole A Confederacy of Dunces which I read a few decades back but don't think I have acopy of apart from this one.
Also Philip K Dick's Lies Inc which I'm not familiar with but may be the last thing he was writing when he died.
Also got the book Wolf Of Wall St, wondering what's in the book that's different to the film.
You're Entitled tO an Opinion a biography of Tony Wilson
THe Way of tHe Rat a book on office politics.

Plus 2 .library books
Naomi Klein's This Changes Everything on climate change
& Scam! Inside America's Con Artist clans
so loads of more new stuff to read. I'd already done a search for the Game of thrones around charity shops on Tuesday and picked up a few then too.

Finished the book Blue blood by eddie conlon which was very interesting.

Stevolende, Friday, 12 June 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

Just been getting into that Nikolaus Wachsmann book; KL: A History of the Nazi Concentration Camps, a from the outset study of the Nazi Concentration camps system that has been adding to my nightmares lately.

xelab, Monday, 15 June 2015 23:02 (eight years ago) link

George Simenon - Maigret on the Riviera
Thomas Hardy - A Pair of Blue Eyes
Anne Enright - The Forgotten Waltz

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 June 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link

Unusually for me, I have crept a short distance into three books: Aristotle's Politics, Henry James' Washington Square, & Evelyn Waugh's Brideshead Revisited. Not sure which one I will return to this evening.

Aimless, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 00:12 (eight years ago) link

the last two you can read in an evening

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 00:15 (eight years ago) link

Perhaps the last two you can read in an evening. I am not an especially fast reader. I tend to amble along.

Aimless, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 03:46 (eight years ago) link

Lately, I've been going slowly through Octavia Butler's Parable of the Sower, Carla Speed McNeil's Finder comics, Charles Burns's X'ed Out trilogy, the last couple of books of poetry by Fred Moten, Feel Trio and The Little Edges, and Charlotte Bronte's Villette, which has (as of about halfway through) one of the most fascinatingly self-divided and acerbic narrators I've come across.

one way street, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link

Good discussion of Villette, Shirley, and (I think) The Professor here:

Charlotte Brontë's Shirley

dow, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 22:18 (eight years ago) link

Thanks, dow.

one way street, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 22:20 (eight years ago) link

I guess I should read Octavia Butler. Where to start?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

Good question; I'm impressed with Sower so far (among other things, SF or not, it's probably the most memorable literary response I've seen to the '92 LA riots and the political climate that made them possible), but it's the first novel by Butler I've read. The Xenogenesis/Lilith's Brood trilogy is supposed to have her most ambitious work, but I'll defer to the SF thread regulars for recommendations.

one way street, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 22:58 (eight years ago) link

the first part of brideshead revisited (the friendship/romance with the son) was one of the best things i had ever read, but i got super bored when it moved on to the rest of the family and never finished it. i was probably too young for it at the time though

flopson, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link

It's his worst novel by some distance.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link

Even including Helena?

Just started Max Berbohm essay collection, The Prince of Minor Writers (a NYRB book). Only read his fiction before, but these are mostly pretty great and funny so far.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 01:45 (eight years ago) link

I guess I should read Octavia Butler. Where to start?

"Kindred" is good.

o. nate, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 02:14 (eight years ago) link

Short story collection 'Bloodchild' is pretty representative of her themes and strengths.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link

xxp I read that NYRB article on him. That collection sounds good, is his fiction good?

franny glasshole (franny glass), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

So with Butler we get her take on how human/humanoid organisms can change and be changed, veering through the walls of identity, in a seemingly random way---for instance, a young black woman, married to a white man, ricochets back and forth between late 20th Century America (LA, I think) and the Antebellum South, where she encounters her white male ancestor and her black female ancestor, one the slaveowner, one the slave: that's Kindred The slaveowner is quite the erratic charmer at times, and things get even more complicated than they might otherwise. Clay's Ark has to do with a highly infectious disease brought back from outer space, and the mutant children that result.
But Clay's Ark is also part of the Patternmaster series, which is Science Gone Too Far, with Butler's development from implications of Frankenstein, also her variation on (and maybe response to) the critique of mystiques, incl the power fanasties leading to and frompurposeful evolution in Frank Herbert's Dune trilogies.
I don't remember the Xenogenesis trilogy very well, but this is a pretty good basic description of the Patternmaster books (but see the main Wiki on Butler for more details, incl. the order in which they should be read. also, I seem to recall thinking that she kept what she may have perceived as her tendencies to melodrama on a very short leash, wnich could add to the tension, but make her seem a bit self-doubtful, tentative at times)(then again, the Patternmaster is an aeons-old African vampire parapsychologist, intent on breeding a new race of telepaths.)
The Patternist series (also known as the Patternmaster series or Seed to Harvest) is a group of science fiction novels by Octavia E. Butler that detail a secret history continuing from the Ancient Egyptian period to the far future that involves telepathic mind control and an extraterrestrial plague. A profile of Butler in Black Women in America notes that the themes of the series include "racial and gender-based animosity, the ethical implications of biological engineering, the question of what it means to be human, ethical and unethical uses of power, and how the assumption of power changes people."[1]

Butler's first published novel, 1976's Patternmaster, was the first book in this series to appear. From 1977 until 1984, she published four more Patternist novels: Mind of My Mind (1977), Survivor (1978), Wild Seed (1980) and Clay's Ark (1984). Until Butler began publishing the Xenogenesis trilogy in 1987, all but one of her published books were Patternist novels (1979's Kindred was the exception)

dow, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link

Of Beerbohm's fiction I've read Zuleika Dobson, which was fun, and Seven Men and Two Others, which is excellent, esp. if you like piss-takes of literary types.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link

read "no good men among the living", which was astonishing. before that patrick cockburn's book on ISIS, which was good but sorely needing a good edit. now onto rory stewart's book about walking from herat to kabul

hot doug stamper (||||||||), Thursday, 18 June 2015 13:09 (eight years ago) link

Thomas Hardy - A Pair of Blue Eyes

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 June 2015 13:27 (eight years ago) link

esp. if you like piss-takes of literary types

Oh yes. Ta.

franny glasshole (franny glass), Thursday, 18 June 2015 16:02 (eight years ago) link

hi everyone -

can anyone recommend some good fiction that is set in Guatemala?

thanks in advance,

gr8080

gr8080, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link

and yes i found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Novels_set_in_Guatemala

looking for a pr0-tip

gr8080, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:58 (eight years ago) link

I have been wanting to read Senselessness by Castellanos Moya for a good long while now.

Finished Saer's La Grande last weekend. Probably the best writer to have ever emulated those naturalistic Proustian sentences (I doubt many have tried tbh) and there is a weird effect of having explicit sexual encounters written about in those Proustian paragraphs (where Proust used those blocks of writing to hide himself Saer's characters are naked physically and emotionally too). Equally though Bolano isn't such a lone-ish figure (La Grande is Saer's last bk from 2005), both talk about dictatorships and their meddling in literary circles (via shadowy 'failed' poets), there is no magical realism to disguise anything either. Although Saer doesn't make use of pulp-ish writing in the way Bolano might. At times I would like to read less about lives destroyed by those dictatorships but it is such a part of those writerly lives that as soon as I write this it becomes a rubbish thing to say.

All Dogs are Blue by Rodrigo de Souza Leão is short but inevitably intense and comical sets of scenes in an asylum (where Rodrigo was confined by his family). No issues like those in Wild Man Fischer (say). It is touching how literature is almost his only, best friend - Rimbaud especially. So I turned to reading him this week.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 18 June 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link

|||||||| u may also like 'an unexpected light' (unless you've had enough afghanistan)

mookieproof, Thursday, 18 June 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link

I just returned from a brief camping trip, during which I finished reading Washington Square. It was very much like a Jane Austen novel condensed to novella length and pretty damned brilliant in its execution. Now I am reading Cannery Row.

Aimless, Friday, 19 June 2015 18:00 (eight years ago) link

I have been wanting to read Senselessness by Castellanos Moya for a good long while now.

i've read this. it's awesome

flopson, Friday, 19 June 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link

Solstice getting near. About time for ILB to break out its ice cream suit and start a new summer reading thread.

Aimless, Friday, 19 June 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link

for a little while when i was a kid i would reread the susan cooper books at every solstice

mookieproof, Friday, 19 June 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link

Do your final dance around the maypole because Sumer Is Icumen In 2015, What Are You Reading Now?

Bredda Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 20 June 2015 15:33 (eight years ago) link


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