Spring is sprung in 2015: What Are You Reading, Vernally Speaking?

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About 90 pages into On The Road, and more than pleasantly surprised so far by Kerouac's version of polish. It's cast as a memoir, with the shining train moving out of the shadows---the author/narrator's early real-life troubles, minimally alluded to here, a proto-Beat scene already seeming stagnant, Neil/Dean's mentioned childhood with his wino father, whom he begged for in the streets and courtrooms--and passing through more: in Chicago, he notes the the "tired" bop of the late 40s, between Bird's creative peaks and Miles' recasting, the "old" and "sad" people and places (more the latter) along the way---and he's already mentioning that he and Dean fell out later, that the rejuvenation of young jades in Denver didn't last. But he remembers the excitement of discovery too, and the details are vivid and lucid, like Jack London's railroad and backstreet chronicles (although JK's more excitable, duh).

dow, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link

Also the vitality and resourcefulness of other people on the road, such as the guy in "a toolbox on wheels... driving it standing up, like a milkman."

dow, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link

"shining train," yeesh--thinking of "train of thought"---so far he's mostly hitchhiking, occasionally hopping a bus.

dow, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link

what if your gut reaction is these people are immature and they are getting away with it? does that make you old (even if you are only 17 or 18 -- from what I can remember -- maybe I've got it all wrong and I'm misremembering or it would be different now)? why can some people get away with it? are they just optimists? are they just open?!

youn, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 23:53 (nine years ago) link

I'm about 2/3 of the way through Nobody Knows My Name by (according to the book's cover blurb) "America's angry young man", James Baldwin. Some of the topical details are outdated, but it is still full of observations and analysis relevant to what was called "the race question" back in the day.

When I finish this, I have checked out a copy of Left Hand of Darkness, Ursula Le Guin, to see if it suits my mood. If it doesn't, I've got plenty more where that came from.

Aimless, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link

Almost at the end of Cloud Atlas, which has been pretty good. Been reading it mainly on buses or might have had it finished sooner.

Started Wolf Hall as my bedtime book though it might just wind up being my travel book once i get through the next 20 pages of Cloud Atlas.
Anyway am enjoying it greatly. Have read first few chapters.

Still reading Edward Conlon's Blue blood which is pretty great too. Cop memoir about end of the last millennium/beginning of this one.

Also just grabbed Senor Nice in a charity shop buy.
& a set of Aleister Crowley short stories including The Drug though I'm not overly impressed so far. But they had it for €5 in the local 2nd hand/remainder bookshop and I thought I'd give it a chance since I might not see it again. I'd had it pointed out by a friend who bought a set of his Simon Iff stories. The idea of a psychic detective sounds interesting so I might grab a copy of that iff it turns up again.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link

On chapter twelve of the most recent winner of the Arthur C. Clarke Award,Station Eleven, which seems to be the story of a post-pandemic traveling theater troupe. So far so good.

Metallic K.O. Machine Music (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:07 (nine years ago) link

Been wondering about that one. Might have to get it.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:55 (nine years ago) link

About a week ago read Zazen by Vanessa Veselka, which is going to be one of these books that I start recommending to certain friends ad nauseum. Very sharp, sad, funny, and it could so very easily become a mean-spirited slog but never does. It's available free on the Red Lemonade site. I read a few of Veselka's essays afterwards, also very good.

JoeStork, Thursday, 14 May 2015 05:22 (nine years ago) link

read tom mccarthy remainder last week, loved it. now reading elena ferrante my brilliant friend & so far it's killer

flopson, Thursday, 14 May 2015 07:17 (nine years ago) link

Cool, you might like the Elena Ferrante--The Neapolitan Novels thread too.

dow, Thursday, 14 May 2015 13:20 (nine years ago) link

I have been reading Didion's Blue Nights. I'm not sure what to make of it, yet. It consists of Didion bouncing around in her memories and often regretful emotions concerning her adopted daughter who died in young adulthood. Its primary value is exposing the thought processes of someone in grief who is struggling to find meaning in a welter of memories, so as to regain some sort of mental balance in their presence.

It's thin compared to its predecessor. What I remember most were the constant allusions to fried chicken.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 May 2015 13:32 (nine years ago) link

Eric Larson - Dead Wake: The Last Crossing of the Lusitania
Dennis Altman - The Death of the Homosexual?
*C.S. Lewis - The Magician's Nephew

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 May 2015 13:33 (nine years ago) link

Cool, you might like the Elena Ferrante--The Neapolitan Novels thread too.

― dow, Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:20 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think i posted on it after reading days of abandonment. so far brilliant friend isn't as intense but still completely killer. i mean it's still pretty intense, 100 pages in and about 5 people have died, shed blood or split their skulls open. in a bildungsroman about 2 girls growing up in italy? lol

flopson, Thursday, 14 May 2015 16:36 (nine years ago) link

Italy: where the word vendetta was coined

Aimless, Thursday, 14 May 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

thin compared to its predecessorhaven't read the latest, but The Year of Magical Thinking was pretty involving, and would have been even if I didn't already know what happened after she finished it (pretty sure, because I'd never been a big Didion follower at all, but this hooked me; still think about it sometimes).

dow, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link

Okay, read a little further into the third section which flashes back. Now I see how this is going to work.

Lemmy Cauchemar (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 May 2015 00:52 (nine years ago) link

Nearly done w/De Sade's 120 Years of Sodom. The thing to pick up post-UK election. Lighten the mood. More on the De Sade thread if I can be, ahem, arsed.

Raced through a bunch of Leskov's stories. Picaresques involving gypsies, artisans, princes, counts, monks, ghosts and whatever else. 19th century canon worthy. I'm calling it!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 May 2015 21:43 (nine years ago) link

Just got to the part of On The Road in which narrator steals a copy of the following while leaving LA for the East Coast, but so far he's too wired/busy "reading landscapes" instead. Then I saw this. Good book?
https://booksyo.wordpress.com/2015/05/15/le-grand-meaulnes-by-alain-fournier/

dow, Friday, 15 May 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link

like the cover, anyway

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51RB%2B9wVAtL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

dow, Friday, 15 May 2015 22:05 (nine years ago) link

my fuzzy memory of it: good if rather slight. seems to have a lot of writer fans, though.

no lime tangier, Friday, 15 May 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link

I agree with Youn about ON THE ROAD. I think the main characters are terribly obnoxious.

I don't like Tom McCarthy at all.

I greatly admire CLOUD ATLAS and WOLF HALL.

I am reading Simon Reynolds' RETROMANIA. I have been quite pleased to see how it opens up and explores past versions of retro. But I turn off when SR says 'I had got into acid house ... I wanted to embrace the phuture'. I find this attitude incomprehensible.

the pinefox, Saturday, 16 May 2015 12:21 (nine years ago) link

I've read well into Left Hand of Darkness. I'm not sure how it will end, but then I am not very invested in the characters or their problems, so any ending would be equal to any other from my present pov.

It is interesting to see how LeGuin has assembled her other world as a pastiche or mosaic of various bits of human cultures and earth's geography, but it is also worth noting that the most original features of her created world are often the least convincing. For my money, the few interspersed 'folk tales' she wrote are easily the best feature of the book. They have the right tone, pacing and details to be very convincing and they shed a more interesting light on the culture she imagined than any other part of the story. They are very like Scandinavian folk tales.

The least gratifying part for me is that, although LeGuin has assembled a decent set of insights into human (nb: she is very clear that her world is inhabited by humans) culture and politics, these insights are all available in a better and more complete form to anyone who has read widely in literature and history. So, her novel is going to be of much more interest to someone just beginning to explore life and literature than to a creaking old literary geek like me.

Aimless, Saturday, 16 May 2015 18:33 (nine years ago) link

(re finding main characters in On The Road to be xpost obnoxious etc.)
Just got to the beginning of OTR's Part Two, where the narrator rates Dean and treasured buddy Ed as "mindless cads" for their exploitation of women, and, after driving from Frisco to Virginia in four days, Dean is in a full-blown mania and still rising. At this point, narrator Sal seems to agree with you.
Dean doesn't really show up that much in Part One. When Sal finally gets to Denver, he finds that Dean and Carlo Marx/Allen Ginsberg have fallen out with other returned natives and NYC expats. Sal watches D and C in overnight mind-meld, interrogating and answering each other re recent behavior, burning through the veils of illusion, with an occasional break for stealing a car and helling 'round the mountains.
But he spends more time with other old and new acquaintances, including Roland Major, who writes and lives Hemingway-wannabee stories about real artists who can't get away from arty types. He's best dealt with in Hemingway fashion: "Don't bother to go over there, Jake, you can probably hit him from here."
The best part so far is Sal going to Mill City. California, which he says is the only community in America where whites and blacks live side by side (true? This is the late 40s). Everybody seems very happy, including his host, the merry Remi, a friend from prep school. The author was a scholarship student at Horace Mann; I don't know how Remi, real or imagined, got to such a place, since he supposedly was shuttled from one bad school to another in the boondocks of France, which is why, Sal explains, he now tends to stagger ant-like under a load of stolen groceries, in the barracks where desperadoes drink & wait to go do cut-rate construction work in Okinawa (Sal & Remy's fellow rent-a-cops, though very cop-like in a showy way, don't catch on this kind of heist).
Remi and Lee Ann, his "honey-colored" girl friend (whose shack Remi and Sal are staying in, of course) scrounge all week so they can go into San Francisco, dressed to the nines and burning through a hundred 1947 dollars in three hours, on a typical Saturday night. Things get even more bipolar, and then eminent Dr. Remi pere and latest hot young wife arrive in America; Remi is desperate to impress his father with swanky dining in San Fran, but Roland Major (now a journo, still living the Life of Hem) shows up and Sal's drunkenly talking wine and roses to Remy's new not-Mom.
The pathos and comedy of this section (and a later part of Part One) pulled me in, although the dialogue can seem two-dimensional, possibly because the author really is relying mostly on memory. Description is his thing, and there's a lot more of it.

dow, Saturday, 16 May 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link

The least gratifying part for me is that, although LeGuin has assembled a decent set of insights into human (nb: she is very clear that her world is inhabited by humans) culture and politics, these insights are all available in a better and more complete form to anyone who has read widely in literature and history. So, her novel is going to be of much more interest to someone just beginning to explore life and literature than to a creaking old literary geek like me.

I don't follow you. You're separating TLHD from lit and history?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:21 (nine years ago) link

No, I'm saying that everything LeGuin offers the reader in TLHoD that is new and original is kind of second rate, while the less original or borrowed parts of TLHoD are available in better and more complete forms elsewhere, either in other works of literature, or else in history. You have to read a lot of books to get at those better sources, but by now I've read a lot of those better books, so all I am left with that's new to me are the parts that don't excite much interest in me. For someone less well read, this would not be so true.

Clearer?

Aimless, Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link

What I remember from the book after twenty years most vividly is its treatment of gender and sexuality.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 May 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, think the consensus has always been that its treatment of gender and sexuality=core of its appeal.

dow, Saturday, 16 May 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link

Just started Someday This Pain Will Be Useful To You, which isn't a Smiths song but rather a queer YA book (by a writer named Peter Cameron) that my prof insists that I read.

The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Sunday, 17 May 2015 01:58 (nine years ago) link

i _loved_ on the road

flopson, Sunday, 17 May 2015 04:49 (nine years ago) link

Patricia Highsmith - The Price of Salt

Brent Armendinger - The Ghost in Us Was Multiplying (poems)

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 17 May 2015 05:28 (nine years ago) link

Renata Adler - After The Tall Timber

long winded essays & reportage from an old school New Yorker writer. her infamous takedown of Pauline Kael is by far the "best" or in my mind the only thing here w/passion and flow.

Saul Bellow - There Is Simply Too Much To Think About

title works as a succinct review of the old braniac's collected non fiction. early pieces got me hungry only to quickly fill up and push the remainder aside undigested as it were.

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Sunday, 17 May 2015 11:32 (nine years ago) link

I own Adler's early 2000s collection, the one with the Rehnquist, Bork, and Lewinsky essays. I wish they were better known.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 May 2015 11:52 (nine years ago) link

she certainly has insight and reach in those pieces and it was interesting to read about watergate from the 1976 perspective but idk, something about the pacing and a certain loftiness of tone left me unsatisfied (and i expected to love this collection, maybe too much). haven't read her novels. yet.

in-house pickle program (m coleman), Sunday, 17 May 2015 12:33 (nine years ago) link

I'm about one-third of the way into Rachel Kushner's The Flamethrowers -- both literally and figuratively. I like parts of it, especially the descriptions of mid-'70s New York bohemia, but the characters are pretty unconvincing, and the writing is so ... written. I was trying to describe my reaction to the prose to my wife, and she said, "Was she an MFA?" Yeah -- exactly. (She was -- Columbia, 2001.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 17 May 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link

I like Kushner's essays on Lispector and her intro to Malaparte's The Skin well enough but yeah dreading to pick that novel up.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 May 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link

dreading! oh come on it's not that bad. i enjoyed it a lot at the time but it didn't leave a huge impression. the second half or last third is pretty slow, she doesn't do anything remotely interesting with any of the fun plot stuff she sets up. but i enjoyed the way it was written, just insanely observationally on-point? like it nailed all the details hesitations half thoughts of awkward quiet person's social interaction. is that what "written" refers to? and i loved the two artist bros' shaggy dog stories. also the first scene was the perfect deployment of violence in an otherwise polite arty novel

flopson, Monday, 18 May 2015 05:17 (nine years ago) link

Denis Johnson's Tree of Smoke, which is a lot better than I'd been expecting

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 18 May 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link

Last night I finished Left hand of Darkness and began to read Mao Tse Tung and I Were Beggars, a memoir by Siao-Yu published in 1961. My only observation so far is that the writing style clearly reflects that English was not the author's native language; it is written in an odd style, both simple and stilted at the same time, vaguely reminiscent of children's books from the late 19th century, which makes it an awkward thing to read, but not painfully so.

Aimless, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link

I read Kushner's new ludicrously thin collection of stories recently (3 stories, ~90 pages of biggish type), and was pretty impressed. Wasn't sure her skills would work as well at novel length, but am interested to see. I avoided Flamethrowers when it came out because it seemed to be getting raves from all the same publications that think silly old Donna Tartt or Jonathan Franzen are great.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 06:08 (nine years ago) link

Skimmed it, some early flying-across-the-desert etc impressions pulled me right along, but then she seems to be at an art party or three, listening to monologues, and this combo of effects reminds me of early DeLillo--Delillo: "The less I think about my early books, the happier I am." Oh, they're not that bad, Don (he alternates action with set pieces, though the see-=saw can get slow), but I don't want to read any more like that, not any time soon.

dow, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

"seesaw," I meant, not trying for any punctuation-play there.

dow, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:14 (nine years ago) link

Meanwhile, in On The Road, Sal finally has money, and a certain degree of power over Dean that neither of them understand yet; they're both getting a bit spooked and even cautious, veering a little (and even trying to make it kinda right with a few people, mostly those complicated females) in headlong flight--when they finally get back to New York one more time, they're going to Italy on Sal's dime---OMG, a plan!

dow, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link

Sometimes in Part 3, Sal seems to be egging Dean on while trying to protect him and some of those around him, around them both, but justifying and enabling (Dean and bis own increasing need to feed on Dean's visions-to-blankness)---all while barely keeping up, on a long, long leash, which can get wrapped around him.

dow, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

Weird synchronicity: Read Gore Vidal's "lost" pulp novel, Thieves Fall Out (better-written than most pulp, but very much of the "Do you expect me to talk?" "No, Mr Bond, I expect you to die!" school of dialogue), set during the Egyptian overthrow of King Farouk in 1952; then I started Alexandrian Summer by Yitzhak Gormezano Goren, and find it's set just before the Egyptian overthrow of King Farouk in 1952.

as verbose and purple as a Peter Ustinov made of plums (James Morrison), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 23:37 (nine years ago) link

I finished Mao Tse Tung and I Were Beggars. It was interesting in both positive and negative ways. The author was very close to Mao for about 6 or 8 years, up to roughly 1925 or 1926, whichever year it was that the Chinese Communist Party officially was formed. Each considered himself a revolutionary of a sort, and a number of their early friends and associates were shot or hanged as dangerous radicals.

The book contains interesting glimpses of Mao's formative years and a few anecdotes that reveal bits of his young adult personality, but it was written long afterward, when the author was over 60, had become deeply respectable in the way elderly Confucian scholars are respectable, and their respective politics had long since diverged. He'd thrown his lot in with the Kuomintang.

It was clear to me the author's major purpose in writing was didactic and this purpose was firmly in control of the narrative. This made the book interesting in a negative sense, in that I found myself frequently discarding, rearranging and reinterpreting in order to decide what kind of surface was under the varnish. What stood out was seldom what the author intended to highlight, which can be kind of fun, if the book isn't too long or tedious. This one was 206 pp. I didn't wish it longer.

Aimless, Friday, 22 May 2015 00:28 (nine years ago) link

Joseph McBride - Whatever Happened to Orson Welles?
C.S. Lewis - The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (my hundredth reread, prob my favorite in the series)

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 May 2015 00:31 (nine years ago) link

brendan behan -- borstal boy
gerald posner -- case closed

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 22 May 2015 05:58 (nine years ago) link

reading wcw 'kora in hell'

also some gillian rose on adorno

j., Friday, 22 May 2015 14:27 (nine years ago) link

melancholy science! been wanting to read that for a while. hegel contra sociology is a real touchstone for me.

about halfway through the flamethrowers and pretty bored but feel like im past the point i can quit.

ryan, Friday, 22 May 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link


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