Finally!
― Number None, Thursday, 3 March 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
the red wedding actually ranks as one of the most genuinely shocking plot turns I have encountered as a reader, I was like daaaaaaaamn
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
oh god, yes
I remember actually spluttering at the book when that happened because I just KNEW someone was going to escape
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
also it seems like the show might already be laying the groundwork for the Improved Jaime Lannister, which was took me a while to buy into in the books
(which I'm guessing is because Martin didn't have that plotted from the outset, so it was natural to make early Jaime more str8 villainous)
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
I hope the show lasts that long. I genuinely can't see it going the distance though. How many seasons has HBO's longest running drama had i wonder?
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
that video, from the other thread? that is how i felt
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
i thought the jamie rehabilitation was so well done that is had to be p well planned but maybe my recollection is generous
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
I actually cackled a bit once I realized that dude was all in---like "oh shiiiiiiit you are really going for it"
plot thing I keep getting faked out on: arya reuniting with nymeria. he's feinted at it a couple times (mostly around Harenhall), but I'm beginning to wonder if it's all a red herring
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
jamie rehabilitation makes me sad that him and tyrion are going to have to kill each other, i wish they could just go on road trips together, the brothers one-hand and shorty
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
p much
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
that shit makes ned dying feel like a happy effing ending
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
maybe i am giving way way too much credit, but i thought that having the starks and the lannisters starting off as the too-obvious good and evil sides of the series and then massacring them and turning two of the remaining lannister adults into 'good guys' was genius.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
w/r/t jaimes rehab: it was done well, but I sensed a...break between how he was rendered in the first book and how he was later developed, is all. like all the stuff about aerys' cruelty and w/e seemed like it was conceived after the first book
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Well we only see Jamie through other people's eyes at first, and mainly from a distance
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
jamie doesnt get a p.o.v. in the first book though
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
Agreed! Just think the decision to do this hadn't been made at the outset is all.
Anyway how will Joffrey die is what I want to know
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
ahhhhhh that's it
like duh of course
hey gbx, out of interest, where are you up to. are you just past the red wedding?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
arya becomes a faceless man, travels to westeros to do the deed, pipped to the post by....littlefinger? loras? a tragic and lolzy riding accident? ~dragons?
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
I'm all the way through it
wait, all the way thru the 4?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
y
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
and you're asking how Joffrey will die...?
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
i was trying to think of an oblique, non-spoilery way of saying that.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
god I am dumb
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
like I actually had to think for a second
ANYWAY
pretend i meant cersei
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
loll
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
i actually dont really want cersei to die, i just want her to be thrown out of power and disgraced and humiliated.
the freys, i want to die. all of them. slowly.
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, i kind of feel bad for Fat Walda
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
btw is coldhands actually benjen stark y/n
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
walder dying would be too inconsequential because he is thereabouts already. would rather see him humiliated. all of his heirs dying would be p hilarious, the continuation of his line being probably the one certainty he has in life. the gods should tear down the twins. surprise volcano.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
xp almost feels too obvious, but probably. did they burn thorin?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
Coldhands = Benjen is certainly the most common theory. I have no idea though really
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
uh, qhorin
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
Had Sam never seen Benjen?
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
Don't think so
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah he was gone when sam showed up
is theon the most pitiable character, y/n
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
I've said this before on here but for some reason i'm still clinging to the notion that Theon will redeem himself
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
if it were any other series id say that theon will kill the bastard bolton but martin doesnt like neat tie-ups like that
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
kinda worried about rickon. wonder if after the ultimate happy ending someone will stumble upon the skeleton of a little boy and a direwolf in a ditch to sour it.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
would serve him right, hes a bad lil kid
― ☂ (max), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
i think theon will do something that ~ought~ to redeem him, but it will be anonymous or mistaken as someone else's work or something
xp rickon's gonna turn into a gollum like little dude
― all the pretty HOOSes (gbx), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
what are the odds Theon is somehow going to end up getting tossed out of the Eyrie
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
Thinking along the same lines gbx
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
maybe instead of seeing things through his wolf, Rickon's wolf is seeing things through him
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
rickon and his wolf being assholes are kind of a counterpoint to the whole lannisters-becoming-good thing. maybe by the end of the book there will have been a full volte-face.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
dany + jon fight back the others, reunite and secure the kingdom, then shaggydog fucks them up. fin.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
maybe the book series ends with Daenerys reclaiming the throne and proclaiming a new age of peace, offering amnesty to all of the other noble families and marrying Jamie to bolster her coffers, only to be assassinated by a vengeful Arya
― low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
haha how many martin threadz are there on ilx?
fuck the freys tho, srsly, hang them all
― neti pot, kombucha, how to die alone (Lamp), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
I am almost done w/ the first book and so far it seems like the book is divided so:
25% descriptions of food 25% descriptions of what people are wearing25% of how women are useless25% hodgepodge of cursing, sex, and what the spirit animal of each house is
― USADA Bin Dopen (dayo), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
i clicked on this so quickly thinking 'did he die c'mon c'mon dead george martin c'mon'
― thomp, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link