PEDs, steroids, etc 2012

The new testing champion!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/sports/baseball/tests-on-dustin-richardson-found-5-banned-substances.html

can i use this thread to say FREE RYAN BRAUN

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/60/6067/88ID100Z/posters/robert-mankoff-i-m-probably-in-the-minority-but-i-would-ve-loved-to-see-mantle-on-stero--new-yorker-cartoon.jpg

Braun won his appeal.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/02/ryan-braun-wins-appeal-will-not-be-suspended.html

wonder what the "technicality" is

Wasn't expecting that.

awesome

“Major League Baseball considers the obligations of the Joint Drug Prevention and Treatment Program essential to the integrity of our game, our Clubs and all of the players who take the field. It has always been Major League Baseball’s position that no matter who tests positive, we will exhaust all avenues in pursuit of the appropriate discipline. We have been true to that position in every instance, because baseball fans deserve nothing less.

“As a part of our drug testing program, the Commissioner’s Office and the Players Association agreed to a neutral third party review for instances that are under dispute. While we have always respected that process, Major League Baseball vehemently disagrees with the decision rendered today by arbitrator Shyam Das.”

!

Interesting local article today about how random testing may not be so random:

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/22/testy-issue-for-jays

"Braun didn't argue evidence of tampering, didn't argue anything about science being wrong but argued protocol had not been followed. A second source confirmed to ESPN investigative reporter Mark Fainaru-Wada that Braun did not dispute the science but rather questioned chain of custody/collection procedure.

According to one of the sources, the collector, after getting Braun's sample, was supposed to take the sample to FedEx/Kinkos for shipping but thought it was closed because it was late on a Saturday. As has occurred in some other instances, the collector took the sample home and kept it in a cool place and possibly refrigerated it. Policy states that the sample is supposed to get to FedEx as soon as possible."

@JordanSchafer
Wow it's time like this I wish I could speak my mind, but I've learned to just keep my mouth shut n stay on my straight path now.

I had to remind myself who he was. The system is slapdash at best.

this means MANNY IS INNOCENT

http://newspaper.li/static/8908c6b8f17988fc2b895915feaf3bf0.jpg

What was the shape of Schafer's prior path?

(Leafy -- right.)

wtf @ collector taking the sample home

dude's probably lonely.

clemenza - is that the first you'd heard about the epic Bautista testings?

Yes--have they been complaining about this for a while? Bypassed me.

no, not complaining. but i've been reading about it for here and there for maybe a year now.

Kurkjian was just talking about Braun's taint.

PEDs 2012: Juice Em Up and Let Em Rip

guess shasta really is gone

so if braun has a bad year the test was right. and if he has a good one he is still taking PEDs.

i haven't seen this before, found this as a comment on a Giants board so it could be common knowledge or.

The big rumor is that Braun was taking a medication to treat genital herpes, that in some form it interfered with the test. It was the cause of his treatment that caused the less than forthcoming responses about specific facts from Braun and others. Who knows the truth, but that’s the rumor.

wait, what happened to Shasta?

pujols had shasta killed when he got out to california. he is buried with the only real copy of albert's birth certificate. rip.

great, a herpes rumor just when I was going to poke my nose into Braun's taint

If a major company wants to throw their case, I'm sure any "independent arbiter" would let them.

That herpes rumor has been around for months over here in Brewerland, but there are now other rumors that the sample tested negative for STDs. Rumors are rumors, as transient as a summer breeze.

Also, tantalizingly, from player rep Chris Narveson: "Put it this way: This isn’t the first time we’ve had issues with the people [in charge of testing] in Milwaukee. There have been other issues with timing."

"but there are now other rumors that the sample tested negative for STDs"

I don't think most STD tests are urine-based.

I'm curious is there actually a public ruling that can be read? Or is this just leaks from MLB and Braun's side?

i would rather people think i was hitting questionable poon than a cheater.

but that's just me.

and possibly Braun i guess.

"There have been other issues with timing."

Word to Artie Fufkin.

"Kick my ass. As a man, I'm asking you to kick my ass." --Anonymous dude who collects MLB players pee in his Edgar Allan Poe-styled basement

yeah when i saw this the first thing i thought of was some random guy hanging out with ryan braun's pee sample for the day

Having fun with Braun's pee sample
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/HathBrad/INTERNET%20DOWNLOADS/ANIMATED%20GIFS/555587017.gif

does anyone else think maybe that switched up Nyjer Morgan's sample with BRAUNDOs?

dick pound thinks so

i did hear ny talk radio for .5 seconds today and heard "clean cut" ryan braun so

they were talking about his circumcision

lol otm

I think this covers the issue better than anything else I read.

http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/page/munson-120224/ryan-braun-ruling-raises-embarrassing-questions-mlb-drug-testing

MLB really looks foolish at this point.

Apparently the full decision will be available to read in a month.

MLB really looks foolish at this point.

― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Saturday, February 25, 2012 8:45 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they really do! and instead of sucking it up and vowing to improve the testing process they're acting like a bunch of babies about it.

ban morbs for mentioning another sport

Exasperated media published on March 4:

http://www.freep.com/article/20140304/SPORTS02/303040023/detroit-tigers-st-louis-cardinals-jhonny-peralta

Jhonny Peralta isn’t a St. Louis Cardinal because he violated baseball’s drug policy. He’s a Cardinal because he got caught violating that policy.

This put the Tigers in a squeeze last season when Peralta was about to be suspended, forcing the team to trade for another shortstop, giving up a valuable prospect — Avisail Garcia — in return.

That shortstop, Jose Iglesias, didn’t play Monday when the Cardinals took on the Tigers at Joker Marchant Stadium.

But Peralta did, reminding Tigers fans what baseball justice looks like.

Cheat. Serve time. Move on. Come back. Blast two homers against the team you hurt. This end result isn’t Peralta’s fault, per se; he’s just navigating the system that employs him.

BRING THE PAIN!

Bosox' butthurtedness on Peralta led to stiffer penalties

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/after-facing-jhonny-peralta-in-alcs-boston-red-sox-fought-to-change-ped-penalties-041014

Poor World Champions

Two leaders of Major League Baseball's investigations unit are among five employees to leave following last year's drug inquiry that led to suspensions of 14 players....

MLB said Thursday the department is now handling "wide-ranging areas" and "felt compelled to restructure in order to increase the effectiveness and efficiency of its investigative capabilities."

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10869005/top-mlb-officials-leaving-invstigations-unit-restructuring

29yo orioles minor leaguer eddie gamboa was suspended 50 games today for 'exogenous testosterone'

which is kind of interesting because he is a knuckleballer

Exogenous means it's applied on the outside, ie the surface of the baseball

what will they think of next

A knuckleballer who didn't want to have kids, perhaps.

xp

(They've probably thought of knuckleballers who don't want to have kids.)

the ol' ADD exemption

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/7/23/5930893/cameron-maybin-suspended-padres-amphetamine-add

remember when he was a five-tool prospect?

http://www.makeandtakes.com/wp-content/uploads/kidscookingtools3.png

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/tony-la-russa-put-steroid-cheats-baseball-hall-fame-asterisks-article-1.1880787

“I knew our programs in Oakland were 100% clean,” said La Russa, who managed the A’s from 1986-1995. “But we had our suspicions — guys hitting stronger but not working out. I went to Sandy and ownership about this. And they told me flat off, ‘Right of privacy. It’s a collective bargaining issue.’ ”

This guy's supposed to be a genius or something? Sounds more like he got his JD from a Florida school.

@JoeGiglioSports
In order to take down A-Rod, MLB worked with a drug dealer that distributed PEDs to 12-17 yr olds in the Dominican.

@jay_jaffe
MOAR BIOGENESIS RT @TJQuinnESPN: Two law enf. sources tell me investigation revealed previously unnamed MLB players. Expect more suspension

Two most common responses I've gotten on unnamed players are "please be Ortiz" and "please be Jeter."

— T.J. Quinn (@TJQuinnESPN) August 5, 2014

Ortiz?!

people've wanted that for years now

had no idea... i guess mainly because he's "well liked"?

did you not follow the price/ortiz stuff at all

hits a lot of homers for an old guy, is a boston red sock, has been a boston red sock through all of their annoying incarnations, will probably end up in the hall of fame without really deserving it, is kind of a dick now, never gotten the impression that he's well-liked outside of boston maybe except for ~2004

>price/ortiz stuff at all

no idea. i really don't read much baseball outside of scores/stats!

It's better that way

i think it mostly just comes down to people suspecting he's on roids

Ortiz was supposedly one of the hundred or so players who tested positive in '03, before there were any penalties for taking PED's. So it wouldn't be Ortiz's first time getting caught (allegedly).

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2014/08/05/biogenesis-tony-bosch-more-mlb-names-could-be-leaked/13641293/

"Are drugs ever going to be out of the game? No," Kirk Radomski, the former New York Mets clubhouse attendant who was convicted for distributing steroids in 2007 to baseball players, told USA TODAY Sports.

"I still get guys calling me, asking me how to get to that next level. There are a lot of guys out there beating the system.

"There probably are going to be a bunch of guys who are worried now that the feds are involved."

Dan Connolly ‏@danconnollysun 4m
Waiting on official word but hearing Chris Davis has tested pos for amphetamines. 25 game suspension

now official

The 25 games shall include all regular season games and Postseason games in which the player would have been eligible to play.

and so close to the mendoza line too

wonder when the failed test was, like if it was announced a week ago he'd be back by postseason

Assuming he's telling the truth, why wouldn't Davis request an exemption for using Adderall, especially if he's had exemptions in the past? Or maybe that's the whole point (nobody could possibly be so stupid, that is) and he's lying?

yeah, kind of weird. anyway, whatever -- everyone pop some greenies

@DBWilson2
Buck on whether it's fair to judge Davis' 2013, and really just on life. "What is fair?"

buck makes u think

Rodriguez also described how Bosch gave the ballplayer “tips on how to beat MLB’s drug testing,” according to the DEA report.

The secret? According to Rodriguez, “Bosch advised him to only use mid-stream urine for MLB drug testing. Bosch told Rodriguez not to use the beginning or the end urine stream.”

It worked. A test he took while using the drugs came up negative.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/article3578762.html

This may have some effect:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12289319/commissioner-rob-manfred-says-hall-fame-voters-surmise-ped-use

potentially fit for this thread or is it teh crack again?
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-josh-hamilton-20150224-story.html

Id be happy if it was PEDs and not crack

yeah same

@Ken_Rosenthal 43s43 seconds ago
Asked a baseball executive if Hamilton’s discipline was for PEDs. His response: “Worse.” The executive declined to elaborate.

was about to post that. hamilton did 9/11. see u in guantanamo josh

PEDs are worse than cocaine

wait what no what am I sayin I'm drunk

More:

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25081902/angels-josh-hamilton-admits-to-relapse-involving-cocaine

Damn. How did MLB find out about it if he didn't fail a drug test?

Apparently he told them...

the drug of abuse suspension policy of mlb sort of rubs me the wrong way.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/marijuana-and-the-joint-drug-agreement/

this is some Kenny powers shit

As others have noted, the stark differences between the MLB and minor league rules for marijuana use raise the possibility that some minor leaguers could try to openly use marijuana in order to force their teams to promote them to the 40-man roster. While this strategy may not work for ordinary minor leaguers, for top prospects it is not inconceivable that a team would choose to promote a player to the 40-man roster to ensure that the player would only be fined, not suspended, for his marijuana use. Otherwise, the team could see any marijuana-using top prospect sidelined for 50 or more games for a violation of the minor league drug rules.

ervin santana, 80-game suspension