Surveillance Posts on Jeffrey Loria's Front Company for Laundering Cocaine and Stolen Art Profits: The 2015 Miami Marlins

PECOTA predicts a 4-win improvement to reach .500 for the first time since 2009. getting latos and dee gordon is good, ichiro is kinda cool if not necessarily good, starting rotation ain't bad. on the other hand, jeffrey loria is jeffrey loria and i doubt anyone on ILB specifically wants him to succeed in any way whatsoever - a very rational stance

the force of goodness and light known as giancarlo stanton will apparently wear this rad helmet to protect his shining countenance
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/dqluq0xmnk2kux8aoo6o.jpg

tbrr this isn't exactly a team i root for, mostly due to loria, but they are not without their weirdly fascinating/awesome aspects, like the fact that HOLY SHIT THIS GUY IS COMING BACK JOSE FERNANDEZ IS THE GREATEST
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/001/027/220/Tulowitzki_original.gif?1377531229

Great thread title.

It's hard to root against the Marlins, they have so many interesting players. Too bad about fucking Loria though.

I pretend that they're owned by Rich Waltz.

easy to root vs em, it's fuckin Florida

sure, why not
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_gD7LIVAAEwqy-.jpg

I've always wondered how and when the Marlins would utilize the Miami Vice theme into their stadium music. It would be a good walk up music, but I got to figure that it is used for rally music or something else in the game. I'd be surprised if it wasn't used.

7 years, $49.5 M for Yelich

hmmmm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2408723-jarred-cosart-under-mlb-investigation-for-gambling-latest-details-comments

baseball ref having some april fools day fun
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBg_nbgUUAAfAMP.png:large

(you can do that for any player but saw the fernandez one and thought it deserving of inclusion itt)

Tampa Bay - Top of 7th SCORE
David Phelps pitching for Miami TB MIA
Phelps relieved Haren. 1 8
Cabrera singled to right. 1 8
Longoria flied out to center. 1 8
Jennings singled to right, Cabrera to second. 1 8
Dykstra walked, Cabrera to third, Jennings to second. 1 8
Forsythe walked, Cabrera scored, Jennings to third, Dykstra to second. 2 8
Dyson relieved Phelps. 2 8
Rivera struck out looking. 2 8
Guyer walked, Jennings scored, Dykstra to third, Forsythe to second. 3 8
Kiermaier walked, Dykstra scored, Forsythe to third, Guyer to second. 4 8
DeJesus hit for Andriese. 4 8
Ramos relieved Dyson. 4 8
Solano at third base. 4 8
DeJesus doubled to deep center, Forsythe, Guyer and Kiermaier scored. 7 8
Cabrera singled to center, DeJesus scored. 8 8

giancarlo is officially the franchise home run leader, with 155, an honor I think he never has to worry about losing.

right behind him? dan uggla. behind those two? lowell, hanley and miggy.

Stanton hit one out of Dodger Stadium

http://m.mlb.com/video/v112594683/mialad-stanton-crushes-homer-out-of-dodger-stadium

my goodness

only the 5th time a homer has gone out of the park in stadium history - last one was mcgwire in 1999

otoh, marlins pitching combined to allow 21 hits, 11 of which were allowed by former dodger (who decidedly did not want to leave LA) dan haren in 4.1 innings, haren is obvs a dodgers double agent

rip mike redmond

what on earth

Jennings coached the baseball team at Davidson High School in Mobile Alabama.

Rosenthal:

Loria has treated Jennings extremely well, awarding him, along with former GM Larry Beinfest, an eight-year contract through 2015 at the end the 2007 season. Jennings, in turn, is extremely loyal to Loria. My strong hunch is that Jennings is taking this job out of obligation, not because he considers it a particularly good idea.

It is not a good idea. It is an idea that will elicit scorn throughout the industry, even though Jennings is one of its more popular members. It also is an idea that will invite scrutiny beyond even what I described Sunday night in my column about Loria, and how he will need to answer to his fellow owners following his dismissal of Mike Redmond as manager.

I want to know – a lot of people will want to know – how the Marlins can hire Jennings as a manager without considering a minority candidate who actually might be qualified for the position. Indians bench coach Sandy Alomar Jr. is one such candidate. Blue Jays coach DeMarlo Hale is another. And I could go on.

Aren't they still paying Ozzie?

paying ozzie through the end of this season, paying redmond through 2017

smdh

@markmulder20
#Marlins president said "this happened organically". I guess it's true, if you throw the word organic on anything people will buy it.

forgive my ignorance – but is there a specific reason Rosenthal is going on about minority candidates?

selig kinda made it mandatory to interview a minority candidate for new jobs (manager and even gm too?) and its been selectively enforced over time..

I dont thinkt he minority oversight angle is the proper one to run down, but Im no 4'10" baseball writer either

i don't think it's anything specific to this situation, more that mlb only has two minority managers and it's hard enough for minority coaches to get consideration even without losing jobs to entirely unqualified white guys.

among current managers, ventura and counsell had no coaching experience at all, ausmus had managed the israeli national team, kevin cash was a bullpen coach for two years, walt weiss coached a high school team, matheny was a roving minor league instructor. several of those guys had long been thought of as managerial candidates and obviously had playing experience, but there are plenty of black/latin guys who have serious experience and don't seem to get considered.

part of the problem, i think, is that being a minor league manager doesn't exactly prepare you to manage a major league team. it's a very different job, and if you're good at it, you get the label of being a 'development guy'. but unless some (white) owner takes a flier on a non-white guy with no coaching experience, what are you gonna do?

fire dan jennings

@Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: Brett Butler out as #Marlins third base coach. Indication is that he resigned.

Turns out he was demoted, and is now OF/baserunning coach.

omg

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/28/the-marlins-considered-hiring-dusty-baker-ron-washington-and-ozzie-guillen-before-going-with-dan-jennings/

shdve hired all 3 btw

will jennings make it through the all-star break y/n

i mean it's ridiculous enough even before you make him wear a uniform

Justin Bour, eh

RHP Jose Fernandez (Tommy John surgery) is set to throw 45 pitches at extended spring training Monday. RHP Jarred Cosart (vertigo) is scheduled to pitch against him.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGSkymHWgAAEIrc.png

j0rdan could've been there for that AND gotten a Mets' beach towel.

With his .253/.291/.298 line, Lagares is now the HACKING MASS leader in CF.

https://twitter.com/FlashGJr/status/605450123255140352

five scoreless for fernandez in his second rehab outing friday

now scheduled to return 7/2 vs the bee oks

thank you yelich for destroying the would-be no hitter pineda had going

maybe Jose F should wait til he's back a month or two before making an Inspiring Energy Drink Ad about it.

pretty nice debut for nicolino. his strikeouts have kind of disappeared over the last couple years, but he seems to get away with it fairly consistently

via the Effectively Wild FB group -- Dee Gordon's #1 BR comp died in 1904.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mcgarch01.shtml

jose fernandez is 23 today, and rules

let us bow our heads and give thanks that he is a part of our lives as baseball fans, let us curse the empty heavens that he's stuck on a marlins team that made pretty solid acquisitions and somehow got worse than last year

(insert obvious loria joke here)

Marcell Ozuna descbribed his stint at Triple-A New Orleans like this: "I was in the jail over there. It's like a jail,"

GOAT franchise

https://i.imgur.com/iDz75Ga.png

talking to Dusty!

http://www.fishstripes.com/2015/9/25/9394367/miami-marlins-manager-dan-jennings-dusty-baker

Fernandez became the first MLB pitcher to start off his career 17-0 at home.

pitcher wins, bah

pitcher wins for the marlins, tho

"Marlins express interest in Bowa"

that pic of pauley shore upthreat looks like richard simmons

re Bowa mgr interview

@robneyer
This would be the best thing for baseball writers since Bobby Valentine.

This Jose Fernandez 5-Hour Energy ad is something.

@joecapMARLINS
#Marlins announce Ichiro -- 65 hits shy of 3,000 -- will return and play for Miami next year.

A moment for Jonah Keri who predicted the Marlins would win the WS this year.

such a bad player now

xp i thought that was michael baumann (also a grantland guy, so the confusion is understandable)

Ichiro walked one more time this year than he did in 2001 -- with exactly 300 fewer plate appearances -- and still had a terrible OBP.

Ha. Third Google search result for "fangraphs 'infield hits'" is http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1101

Crude comparison, but his 2001 batting average on infield grounders was .129. In 2015, it was .069.

#sochill

gonna trade ozuna because loria doesn't like him to make room for ichiro

both keri and baumann picked miami -http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-predictions-playoff-picks-mvp-cy-young-surprise-team-flop-team/

huh weird, kinda surprised at keri for that but tbf he was far from the only one bullish on the fish. baumann picking them never surprised me bc he's, like, a moron and stuff, dude legit used "intangibles" unironically in his AL wildcard preview to justify picking the Yankees

I wouldn't judge writers on preseason picks; most of the analytics-savvy ones HATE writing that column, it seems, cuz everyone usually knows what the most statistically likely teams to win are, and that's boring. So they have to throw in an offbeat choice or two.

RJ Anderson at BP on Ichiro:

There are two ways to view this deal. From a baseball perspective, it's rotten. This is Wade Boggs with the Devil Rays all over again, to the extent that you wonder if the Marlins intend to retire his number sometime after he collects his 3,000th hit. There's nothing wrong with teams co-opting or embracing milestone chases, but there has to be a facade of prioritizing winning; otherwise it comes across as a cheap PR stunt, as this signing does. It doesn't help that the Marlins have earned a bad reputation over the years on these things, nor that Ichiro ended the season with the sixth-highest salary on the roster.

What's then is the best defense of this deal? That, from a fan's perspective, it's cool....

Perhaps he is a valuable mentor in the clubhouse.

Happy birthday to the god Rich Waltz.

The Marlins are just a strange club.

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2015/11/11/the-marlins-made-a-lopsided-trade-with-the-pirates-as-a-compensation-deal/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

that's actually one of the only good trades the marlins have made recently

@HardballTalk
#Marlins taking offers on Marcell Ozuna because Jeffrey Loria "can't stand the guy"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUq2EigUkAAYmsS.jpg

the only button that works is "basement"

has there been speculation about Ozuna landing spots or are people considering this just a bunch of hooey? feelin like any "need" to deal ozuna is more spectacular/weird/eccentric/irrational than "needing" to deal fernandez

supposedly the mariners are interested?

http://a2.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2016%2F0220%2Fr55636_1296x729_16%2D9.jpg&w=1140&cquality=40

Ichiro: 2935 hits, 596 walks.
Bonds: 2935 hits, 2558 walks.

cream + clear = good eyes

slothro come up with a thread title