Salary dump
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:25 (six months ago) link
dipoto gets antsy if he doesn't make a trade every so often
also suarez really strikes out a *lot*
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:44 (six months ago) link
He does but he’s a great third baseman and though he wasn’t great at the plate last season (in 2022 he had a wrc+ of 130) he hit 22 hrs and drove in 96 runs. That’s a lot on a team that doesn’t hit well.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 21:48 (six months ago) link
Exactly. Like congrats on reducing your strikeouts, but you’ve also reduced your overall production in the process. Maybe if he’s a corner outfielder you can easily find another guy; but at 3b?
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 22:14 (six months ago) link
Passan (?) said that the Mariners intend to use Luis Urias there. Now look: I like Luis Urias and I liked him in his half season in Boston especially when he hit a grand slam off Gerrit Cole even though he was playing through injury most of the season & had terrible numbers -he was great in the WBC. But they need to replace that production and that’s not it.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 22:17 (six months ago) link
Could be freeing up money for a splash they intend to make in free agency?
― omar little, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 22:19 (six months ago) link
I wish that was true. :( if it happens I’ll be delighted but…
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 22:41 (six months ago) link
What!
Sonny Gray and the Cardinals are expected to finalize a deal today, via league sources— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) November 27, 2023
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 27 November 2023 13:02 (six months ago) link
3/$75m for Sonny Gray. The stove is lukewarm
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 27 November 2023 15:02 (six months ago) link
Gibby!
https://nypost.com/2023/11/22/sports/mets-hiring-ex-blue-jays-manager-john-gibbons-as-bench-coach/
You can pretty much pencil them in for the World Series.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 01:07 (six months ago) link
Sonny Gray has been surprisingly good and durable for nearly his entire career, that's a good pickup for just a three year investment.
I guess the Cards are looking to go worst to first in 2024, and why not, the division is winnable.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 10:33 (six months ago) link
Definitely a good pitcher. When I saw he finished second in the Cy Young vote, I didn't think to look at his record. But we're truly deep in the new era when a guy who goes 8-8 can finish that high, even minus the dominance of a deGrom or King Felix, with the voters looking past the W/L to accurately assess his true value.
― omar little, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 17:56 (six months ago) link
gray is a good signing but i'm not really convinced that gray + gibson + lynn is going to completely solve their rotation problems from last season (not to mention their offensive issues). i doubt they'll come in last in the division again but they don't seem considerably better than the cubs/brewers/reds at this point (sorry pirates).
― na (NA), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 18:02 (six months ago) link
feels like the exact same kinda mid market 3rd-ish starter type deal they've already failed on a few times w/ mike leake & steven matz. but i guess gray is just better. probably...
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 18:05 (six months ago) link
Gray is def better than that at his best, but he does feel like a rich hill type in some respects.
― omar little, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 18:11 (six months ago) link
The stove is warming up
Right-hander Luis Severino and the New York Mets are finalizing a one-year, $13 million contract, sources familiar with the deal tell ESPN. Severino, 29, will join the Mets and a rotation in significant need of help after spending his eight-year career with the New York Yankees.— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) November 29, 2023
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 23:31 (six months ago) link
feels like a pretty decent deal. lots of upside
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 30 November 2023 02:01 (six months ago) link
this rumoured deal between the brewers and Jackson Chourio are crazy. 8 years/$80M (and options) for a guy who's never seen the majors!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:15 (six months ago) link
Why would you not do this? Very good chance the extension costs a lot more if they do it two years from now, and if it doesn't work, it's... $10m a year? That's what you pay for a 3rd starter these days. What would you rather have for the next eight years, Aaron Nola starting from age 30 or two Jackson Chourios starting now?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:56 (six months ago) link
The White Sox did a similar deal for Luis Robert, who is supposedly the only guy they want to rebuild around
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Thursday, 30 November 2023 17:00 (six months ago) link
Ya, fair enough.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 30 November 2023 19:34 (six months ago) link
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, November 30, 2023 11:56 AM (two hours ago)
exactly. the downside of 10/80 is pretty minimal compared to the upside of him becoming julio rodriguez and commanding 12/210, which itself is still a massive discount
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 November 2023 19:59 (six months ago) link
I always love deals like that, I think they're so much more unquestionably smart than similar length deals at three times the price for 29 or 30 year olds.
― omar little, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:06 (six months ago) link
I mean the latter point is kind of obvious I suppose...
― omar little, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:07 (six months ago) link
What the fuck!!!
Braves acquire Jarred Kelenic, Evan White and Marco Gonzales from Mariners for young righties Jackson Kowar and Cole Phillips, via @RyanDivish Mariners shed more salary in trade. Presumably loading up to add a big stick or two.— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 4, 2023
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 4 December 2023 08:06 (six months ago) link
the classic sam miller 'love this trade for the rays! who'd they get' tweet is being pre-empted by atlanta
(and/or whomever jerry dipoto trades with)
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 December 2023 08:22 (six months ago) link
I can only wonder if they are clearing payroll space for a big bat but it’s the Mariners
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Monday, 4 December 2023 08:57 (six months ago) link
Ohtani met with Blue Jays management at the team's spring training complex in Florida.
I am still skeptical that anything will come out of this, but it is interesting.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 06:24 (six months ago) link
i guess roberts spilled the beans Ohtani had met with the dodgers before that as well. literally everyday i have at least two friends checking in with me about this "Ohtani guy"
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 23:59 (six months ago) link
so this mariners deal
marco gonzales is bad, and they got out of spending $12m on himkelenic (still possibly not-terrible) and white (terrible) are pre-arb
jackson kowar is 27 and has never been goodcole phillips is a high school pitcher who, at 20, has yet to pitch professionally
i don't think saving $12m suddenly means they can splash out on ohtani? phillips is a stab in the dark. and for whatever one thinks of kelenic, he put up 2 bwar as a 24yo this past season, which is infinitely more than everyone else in this trade combined
i rate this trade: ffs
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 04:31 (six months ago) link
SF to Tokyo is 11hours there, 9.5 back. It's an absolute grind even in biz/1st.Seattle & LA (and SD lol) are a little longer but all within the realm of "geographical proximity".
ATL/NYC/BOS/PHI are more 14+/12+, bordering on soultheft.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 04:50 (six months ago) link
I take that back about PHI, there's no direct flights which I think would be a dealbreaker at close to 18-20h per leg.
*huge caveat: assuming Shohei flies commercial.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 04:56 (six months ago) link
He’ll be able to buy his own airline soon enough.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 05:54 (six months ago) link
don't think the flight time matters -- it's not like he's not going to be an all-star, he's stuck here all summer
what *might* matter is how time zones and television play out in japan?
steve shasta: bring the knowledge
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 06:04 (six months ago) link
it's not so much him, it's his lifeline (family, friends, colleagues, seniors/juniors, medical staff, cultural staff, etc.)
east coast daygames are dreadful (usually starting ~midnight) but all night games line up with the workday with west coast night games ending around 4pm.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 07:24 (six months ago) link
lol verdugo to the yankees
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 08:22 (six months ago) link
i want him to refuse to shave
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 08:23 (six months ago) link
I feel like the autonomy really matters for Ohtani; you see it on this tour now. Literally the only reason I thought he might not sign with the Dodgers is because they’d want him to do things off the field. Buster Olney posted that there was a chance he could go back to the Angels, which would undoubtedly pay a ton of money for him to make them money, and to never do media for months if he doesn’t feel like it. But ultimately I still think he’s a Dodger for a million reasons, I think that would be the only sticking point.
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 09:04 (six months ago) link
so this mariners dealmarco gonzales is bad, and they got out of spending $12m on himkelenic (still possibly not-terrible) and white (terrible) are pre-arbjackson kowar is 27 and has never been goodcole phillips is a high school pitcher who, at 20, has yet to pitch professionallyi don't think saving $12m suddenly means they can splash out on ohtani? phillips is a stab in the dark. and for whatever one thinks of kelenic, he put up 2 bwar as a 24yo this past season, which is infinitely more than everyone else in this trade combinedi rate this trade: ffs
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 09:08 (six months ago) link
classic bucco
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 09:18 (six months ago) link
Welcome to the Bronx, Alex Verdugo 💪#YANKSonYES pic.twitter.com/crFSLHmfvs— YES Network (@YESNetwork) December 6, 2023
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 09:18 (six months ago) link
I really wish someone would call their bluff
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 13:49 (six months ago) link
Lots of chatter suggesting Juan "Childish Bambino" Soto is heading to The Bronx... pending physicals of course.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 15:12 (six months ago) link
Soto with that RF porch 😵💫
― omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 15:36 (six months ago) link
They’re not a Soto away tbh
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 16:12 (six months ago) link
Craig Kimbrel is a deal now with O’s. $13M. @Joelsherman1 and @Ken_Rosenthal on it— Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) December 6, 2023
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 20:43 (six months ago) link
damn and i was rooting for the O's to go further this season
― omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 21:06 (six months ago) link
lol
― mojo dojo casas house (gyac), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 21:17 (six months ago) link
Kimbrel-pitching-stance-with-a-pitch-of-Orioles-perched-on-his-wonky-arm.jpg
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:14 (six months ago) link
Finalized:
NYY: JuanSoto + Trent Grisham
SDP: Michael King, Drew Thorpe, Jhony Brito, Randy Vásquez + Kyle Higashioka
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:26 (six months ago) link