i remember that one! who was the home plate ump for that game?
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
I didn't see the game, but apparently West saddled Braun with an even more egregious strike zone earlier in the game? The Cardinals replay kept showing Braun's reaction from the outfield as Holliday was tossed
― Evan R, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 15:59 (nine years ago) link
This tweet is otm though:
Kyle Lobner @BrewFrostyMug 1h1 hour agoToday I learned: Taking five minutes to leave after an ejection is ok for Matt Holliday, but ~5 extra seconds on a home run trot is not.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/numlocation.php?pitchSel=572788&game=gid_2015_06_02_milmlb_slnmlb_1/&batterX=47&innings=yyyyyyyyy&sp_type=1&s_type=3&league=mlb&pnf=&zlpo=
doesn't seem *too* egregious, but as with the liriano at-bat, ppl get pissed when the zone is expanded on both sides, and holliday no doubt thought the second pitch was outside. also that was the only inside strike west called against right-handers the entire game
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 16:10 (nine years ago) link
starting pitching + OBP = slow grind of wins
Jay proves this wrong every year but why MM starts our 5th best OF every day is weird.
― bnw, Friday, 5 June 2015 14:40 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGwCFzvWwAAA8q5.jpg@KyleMcClellan46Bruce Sutter being a good sport while our team is beating his team #TeamWillieMcGee #CardsFantasyCamp @Cardinals
#TeamWillieMcGee
― mookieproof, Friday, 5 June 2015 18:19 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/VrNmcMc.gif
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 6 June 2015 04:04 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/lrtpfh0.gif
― Karl Malone, Monday, 8 June 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link
I might be more sour if Shelby Miller hadn't been pitching well for ATL, but naaaah, I'll always love that guy.
― WilliamC, Monday, 8 June 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link
yeah, i'm trying to soak up his presence while i can. even though he's been slumping he's still really fun to watch
― Karl Malone, Monday, 8 June 2015 21:42 (eight years ago) link
lol red sox just drafted matheny's kid as a fourth round pick
god, i hope he becomes the most boastful player ever in like 7 years or whenever (if ever) he makes it to the big leagues and plays the game the most bat-flippingly "wrong way" possible, plz baseball lords grant me this
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:07 (eight years ago) link
You got a Tate!
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link
lol from over the monster:
Father Mike requested that St. Louis not draft his son again, though...Matheny is "one of the best all-around outfielders in college baseball" according to MLB.com, and Baseball America rated him 107 on their pre-draft top-500. BA does not see him as an every day center fielder, though, believing that his future is at second base if he wants to start every day, or as a fourth outfielder who can fill in at any of three outfield spots with ease. There is some obvious downside there, but Matheny has some of that Cardinals' blood in him, so this will all look silly in five years when he's a perennial, scrappy all-star because that's just how it works for St. Louis baseball.
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:20 (eight years ago) link
is his dad trying to tell us something or did he just not want to pull a doc rivers and coach his heir
Keri:
Opponents are batting just .205 against Cards pitchers with runners in scoring position. That’s 37 points lower than their RISP results a year ago, and 55 points lower than what they’ve allowed with the bases empty this season. With two outs and runners in scoring position, the results have been borderline illegal, with opponents batting just .159/.255/.226 in those spots. Returning to Cluster Luck, we see that the Cardinals have allowed a jaw-dropping 41 fewer runs than you’d expect from a team scattering hits at a league-average rate....
When you throw 65.4 percent of your pitches for strikes, as the Cardinals’ starters have this year, you’re bound to pitch deep into games. And that longevity has enabled the properly rested St. Louis bullpen to flourish. Of course, it has taken a group effort (plus good defense, plus those flashy high-leverage results), but Cards relievers are sporting a stellar 2.03 ERA on the year.
It might be true that it’s better to be lucky than good. But as the Cardinals could tell you, it’s definitely best to be both.
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/mlb-the-30-white-sox-tigers-twins-cardinals-future/
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:31 (eight years ago) link
xpost2/3/15:
"The answer to your question is no, the Cardinals are not allowed to draft him," the manager said. "It's not fair to him. It really isn't. There would be too much on him and there would always be that little bit of (wonder) that it wasn't all that he did, that it had something to do with me."
matheny ended up softening that a bit though in the last few days, saying he'd be open to the cardinals drafting him. i dunno. the mathenys are really weird.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link
xposti expect the cardinals to regress heavily, especially if matt holliday ends up out for the year. wacha and martinez have been fantastic, but neither one of them should be allowed to throw 180-200 IP this year, so something's bound to go wrong
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 18:34 (eight years ago) link
it's pretty common for teams to draft their coaches'/GM's/ex-players' kids in the late rounds just as a courtesy (like piazza, back in the day). but yeah if the kid is actually good, it has to be awkward -- is he getting promotions/at-bats/chances just because of his dad? etc. and if he's a fourth-rounder i guess he's pretty good.
cuts both ways, i guess -- the braves traded kyle wren shortly after they canned his dad
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 19:06 (eight years ago) link
St. Louis Cardinals @Cardinals 17 minutes ago#STLCards place OF Matt Holliday (right quad strain) on 15-day DL. RHP Miguel Socolovich recalled from Memphis (AAA) for tonight's game.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link
phew (?)
@b_hoffman11: Siegrist and Rosenthal combined: 2 2/3 IP 0 R 0 H 0 BB 6 K. Fastballs averaged 97 #STLCards
― bnw, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link
@DanHirsch#Cardinals fewest runs allowed through first 61 games: 1944: 167 (WS) 2015: 177 1968: 183 (WS) 1943: 188 (NL) 1942: 190 (WS)
― mookieproof, Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:55 (eight years ago) link
(so fucked up that the tag is actually #STLCards because of fuckin football tho)
― mookieproof, Saturday, 13 June 2015 02:57 (eight years ago) link
St. Louis Cardinals Investigated by F.B.I. for Hacking Astros
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link
stepping up their heel game along w/ the Royals
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link
Wow. I feel even more Pats like.
"Agents soon found that the Astros’ network had been entered from a computer at a home that some Cardinals officials had lived in. "
Durrrr.
― bnw, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link
ummm more like hand game because y'know they had to type and click, jeez
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link
(xp)
just trying to get a good grip on the baseball, everyone does it
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/AuPoM1O.png
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link
@bestfansstlouis is having a field day rn
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHoiowQUMAMfRj5.png
it's all coming together
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:00 (eight years ago) link
Best Fans in Benghazi
― bnw, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link
Omar Infante beheading at 7th-inning stretch
(best context for this is Pete Rose's pregame participation)
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 16:42 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHohbguUsAAKL3h.jpg
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link
uh that last post of mine was All-Star
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 19:03 (eight years ago) link
ha, HACKING MASS more like HACKING AST, get it?
heh. high five? c'mon somebody high five
― chaki wite (sanskrit), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
*rimshot*
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link
Investigators believe Cardinals officials, concerned that Mr. Luhnow had taken their idea and proprietary baseball information to the Astros, examined a master list of passwords used by Mr. Luhnow and the other officials who had joined the Astros when they worked for the Cardinals. The Cardinals officials are believed to have used those passwords to gain access to the Astros’ network, law enforcement officials said.That tactic is often used by cybercriminals, who sell passwords from one breach on the underground market, where others buy them and test them on other websites, including banking and brokerage services. The breach on the Astros would be one of the first known instances of a corporate competitor using the tactic against a rival. It is also, security experts say, just one more reason people are advised not to use the same passwords across different sites and services.
That tactic is often used by cybercriminals, who sell passwords from one breach on the underground market, where others buy them and test them on other websites, including banking and brokerage services. The breach on the Astros would be one of the first known instances of a corporate competitor using the tactic against a rival. It is also, security experts say, just one more reason people are advised not to use the same passwords across different sites and services.
facepalm
i just got home and i'm catching up on all of this. holy shit. i wonder who the executives are? bleeeeegh, this SUCKS.
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link
lawgraphs: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-legal-implications-of-the-cardinals-alleged-hacking
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 June 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
"Where we are right now is we don't know any more than anybody else," said Cardinals manager Mike Matheny, speaking on behalf of his coaching staff and players. "Right now, we just go about our business and realize this is something that is being dealt with."Matheny said he was unaware the Cardinals were being investigated until a front-office member pulled him out of the workout room on Tuesday morning to alert him of the coming Times report. Matheny, speaking about 90 minutes after the story was published, had still not read the article."You guys are more informed than I am, and once again, I'm fine with that," Matheny said. "I'll get the pertinent information when that time comes and when it's appropriate. Right now, we have to prepare for a baseball game. We don't know how to react at all until we have more information, so we don't. The way to react is to prepare for a baseball game."
Matheny said he was unaware the Cardinals were being investigated until a front-office member pulled him out of the workout room on Tuesday morning to alert him of the coming Times report. Matheny, speaking about 90 minutes after the story was published, had still not read the article.
"You guys are more informed than I am, and once again, I'm fine with that," Matheny said. "I'll get the pertinent information when that time comes and when it's appropriate. Right now, we have to prepare for a baseball game. We don't know how to react at all until we have more information, so we don't. The way to react is to prepare for a baseball game."
just read the goddamn article matheny, it only takes like 3 minutes
― legendary wireless executive (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link
I don't know, at least they did it in a classy way.
― chaki wite (sanskrit), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 21:59 (eight years ago) link
@keithlaw The Phillies just offered their passwords to the Red Sox for Mookie Betts
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 June 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link
change your password Jeff
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 01:16 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHtlmP_WwAAV5rd.jpg
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link
This whole thing is hilarious and delightful.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:40 (eight years ago) link
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/6/16/8790755/cardinals-fans-reaction-hacking-charges-st-louis-mlb-fbi
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 17:34 (eight years ago) link
Glen Perkins triumphs for Truth and Justice
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:04 (eight years ago) link
noooooooooooo
― 1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Thursday, 18 June 2015 03:09 (eight years ago) link
that's just my general reaction to all of this
noooooooooooooooooooooooooo