― Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Don't forget Boston's #8-9 batter Billy MuelLEEr who hit back to back grand-slams in consecutive at-bats... as a switch-hitter from both sides of the plate!
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 6 July 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
An MLB website producer, Bill Ruhl of Miami, Florida, has asked "if there has ever been a pitcher who pitched with both arms? Kind of a switch-pitcher."
Greg Harris of the Montreal Expos, a natural right-hander, is the only pitcher in modern baseball history (since 1900) to throw with both hands in a Major League game. It was on September 28, 1995, against Cincinnati in the final week of the season when the Expos were 24 ½ games out of the lead in the National League East.
The ambidextrous Harris worked a scoreless ninth inning in a 9-7 loss. Using a special reversible six-finger glove, which had two thumbs, Harris faced four batters, two right-handed and two left-handed. He allowed one runner, on a walk.
The play-by-play follows: Pitching right handed, Harris retired the righty-hitting Reggie Sanders who swung at the first pitch and grounded to short. The next two batters were Hal Morris and Ed Taubensee, both left-handed hitters. Throwing with his left hand, Harris walked Morris on four pitches. Taubensee carried Harris to a full count and hit a nubber in front of the plate. Harris switched back to his right hand for the righty-hitting Bret Boone, who grounded to the mound for the third out.
It was the next to last big league appearance for Harris, who was with six clubs and had a 15-year career beginning in 1981. Used mostly in middle relief, he retired with a 74-90 lifetime record, 54 saves and a 3.67 earned run average. He appeared in 703 games, 605 out of the bullpen.
Talking about it last week in a telephone interview from his home in Newport Coast, California, where he operates a weekend pitching camp, Harris said he strengthened his left arm when he was a teenager. "I did a lot of wood-working," he explained. "I sawed and hammered with my left hand."
But it wasn't until he was in his sixth big league season, in 1986 with Texas, after he got his left-handed fastball into the mid-80s, that he became confident he could throw both ways against Major League competition. But there were two strikes against him: (1) the belief he would be making a mockery of the game, and (2) there was no need for him to throw left-handed because he was consistently effective right-handed.
Bobby Valentine, then the Texas manager, told Harris he would allow him to parade his wizardry in the final series of the 1986 season. The plan was scrapped because the Rangers were in first place and fighting for the division title. Harris was traded to Philadelphia, where the management was indifferent to his desire.
His next move was to Boston prior to the 1990 season. The Boston writers, eager for a good story, each year for the next five years, pleaded with the Red Sox brass to give him a chance in a Spring Training exhibition game. General Manager Dan Duquette refused to oblige. "We pay Greg to pitch right-handed," Duquette insisted.
American League president Dr. Bobby Brown, a one-time Yankee infielder who batted .349 in 17 World Series games, was aware a two-way pitcher would have a rare advantage and would neutralize and diminish the effectiveness of every batter. Unwilling to weaken his kinship with the offense, Dr. Brown prepared for the possibility by issuing a directive to his umpires:
a) The pitcher must indicate which hand he intended to use.b) The pitcher may change arms on the next hitter but must indicate the arm to be used.c) There will be no warmup pitches between the change of arms.d) If an arm is injured, the pitcher may change arms and the umpire must be notified of the injury. The injured arm can not be used again in that game.
Harris' opportunity came in his last season, in 1995, when he was in his second term with Montreal. To be certain he would be ready, manager Felipe Alou alerted Harris in late August, a month before the event:
"Felipe said he wanted to see for himself how I would do and that it would be good for the game," said Harris.
According to the on the spot reports, Harris was baseball's first ambidextrous pitcher since Elon (Ice Box) Chamberlain in 1888. Chamberlain was with Louisville in the American Association, then a major league. He gave up a ninth-inning home run and lost 9-8.
It has since been established that Tony Mullane, with Baltimore in the NL, was Harris' immediate predecessor. Mullane, in 1893, worked the ninth inning and gave up three runs in a 10-2 loss to the Cubs. He also threw with both hands in 1882 when he was with Louisville. In 1884, Larry Corcoran, in a game when the Cubs were running out of pitchers, worked four middle innings, the record for longevity.
There were probably as many as a half dozen ambidextrous pitchers in the 20th Century who threw on the sidelines but never in a game. Among them were Cal McLish, a 15-year veteran who was with six clubs; Ed Head of the old Brooklyn Dodgers; Dave (Boo) Ferris of the Red Sox; Tug McGraw of the Mets, and Jeff Schwarz, who had a brief stay with the White Sox.
The ambidextrous Paul Richards, who later had a distinguished managerial career with the White Sox and Orioles, claimed that when he was in high school, in Waxahachie, Texas, he was featured in "Ripley's Believe It Or Not," after winning a doubleheader by pitching right handed to the right-handed batters and left handed to the left-handed batters.
When he was in the Minors, with Muskogee in the Western Association, Richards was confronted with the ultimate dilemma: the switch-pitcher vs. the switch-hitter.
Summoned in ninth-inning relief, Richards was ready to pitch right handed to Charlie Wilson, a switch-hitter. Wilson countered by crossing the plate and stepping into the left-handed batters' box. The amusement continued for several minutes as Wilson jumped from one side to the other.
Exasperated, Richards threw his glove on the mound and faced Wilson with both feet square on the rubber.
"I put my hands behind my back," Richards recalled, "and shouted, "I'll wait until you choose your poison."
Jerome Holtzman is the Official Historian for Major League Baseball. He is a frequent contributor to majorleaguebaseball.com.
― c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link
I guess this would go here: Baseball Reference has been tracking when the 200,000th game in major league history will be played, and it'll happen this Saturday. At the end of play yesterday, the total sat at 199,952. (Note they tack on: "If you recognize the National Association as a major league [and many do], the 200,000th game was played on July 4th, 2011 by the Reds and Cardinals [if you go by start times]." Was that a story last year? I don't remember it.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 22 September 2011 12:12 (twelve years ago) link
As a child I had this book, which was wonderful, and filled with stories like those detailed above -
http://www.amazon.com/Giant-Book-Strange-Sports-Stories/dp/0394832876
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 22 September 2011 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
This is pretty weird--easy to explain, but weird nonetheless.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_wertheim/09/30/prince.fielder/index.html?sct=mlb_wr_a3
― clemenza, Monday, 3 October 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
I was shocked to hear that the Yankees three grand slams against the Athletics this August was an MLB first.
Sure, it's tough enough to load the bases three times in one game, but not until 2011?
― san lazaro, Tuesday, 4 October 2011 01:24 (twelve years ago) link
Not really a record, although I'm sure no one else has ever done it (from an HHH comments thread):
In 1970, Horace Clarke spoiled three no-hitters in the 9th in a span of less than a month! (June 4, June 19, July 2).
This in a year when Clarke managed to have 731 PA out of the lead-off spot and score 81 runs.
― clemenza, Saturday, 7 September 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
Again, not a record, just unusual (from High Heat Stats):
The three pitchers with the most career regular season innings pitched over the last one hundred years of major league baseball are Phil Niekro, Nolan Ryan, and Gaylord Perry. These three combined for 73 seasons of pitching in the majors, 2,179 regular season starts, and 956 regular season Wins. They faced a combined 67,205 batters in the regular season and pitched a combined total of 16,140 regular season innings. Unfortunately, the three combined for zero World Series starts, zero World Series wins, two and one-third innings pitched in the World Series, and ten batters faced in the World Series.
― clemenza, Saturday, 18 January 2014 23:32 (ten years ago) link
all the WS exp is Ryan's in '69?
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 19 January 2014 01:43 (ten years ago) link
Haven't checked, but must be. Which makes it even more bizarre--nothing from 1970 on, which encompasses about 50 seasons between them.
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 January 2014 03:06 (ten years ago) link
Those seasons were spent with expansions teams, 13 years in both Texas team doesn't help for the WS. Actually Ryan could be the best player to ever only play in expansion teams.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 19 January 2014 07:13 (ten years ago) link
Jacoby Ellsbury: 1st player with 2 leadoff catchers' interferences in a season since Pete Rose in 1969
― mookieproof, Monday, 31 August 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link
First time since 1950 that two guys on the same team have had 35 RBI in a month (Edwin and Donaldson).
― clemenza, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-chasing-ridiculous-record-from-the-1800s/
The weirdness and difficulty of this is obvious.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 13:15 (nine years ago) link
@AndrewGrumanAll 6 probable pitchers in the Brewers/Reds series are rookies. According to STATS, last time that happened in a 3-game series was 1924.
― mookieproof, Friday, 18 September 2015 17:49 (nine years ago) link
I love this thread
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 September 2015 18:08 (nine years ago) link
rizzo now one HBP away from the second 30 HR/30 HBP season ever
i'll bet you can guess who had the first
― mookieproof, Friday, 18 September 2015 21:24 (nine years ago) link
Bagwell?
― clemenza, Friday, 18 September 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
nope
― mookieproof, Friday, 18 September 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, just looked him up--a lot of 15-20 seasons for HBP, 41st on the career list.
― clemenza, Friday, 18 September 2015 21:28 (nine years ago) link
Baylor?
― Heel of Fortune (WilliamC), Friday, 18 September 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
^^^
― mookieproof, Friday, 18 September 2015 21:40 (nine years ago) link
Kendrys Morales' three HR and triple tonight the seventh time that's ever been done. I wouldn't have guessed even that many.
― clemenza, Monday, 21 September 2015 02:56 (eight years ago) link
When was last time fore this?
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, 21 September 2015 03:48 (eight years ago) link
And a walk!
― 1996 ball boy (Karl Malone), Monday, 21 September 2015 03:58 (eight years ago) link
ryan braun, april 30, 2012
then 1975
then 1950
― mookieproof, Monday, 21 September 2015 04:23 (eight years ago) link
Do you have play index, mookie? I'd be interested in knowing who the other five were.
― clemenza, Monday, 21 September 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link
i don't, but these are the dates it gives if you want to look them up individually
2015-09-202012-04-301975-06-181950-06-241945-07-131936-05-241928-06-02
― mookieproof, Monday, 21 September 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
Thanks, I'll try to figure it out tonight if I get ambitious. Checking high-scoring games from 1975-06-18, zeroed in on Lynn's famous game: 5 for 6, triple, 3 HR, 4 runs, 10 RBI.
― clemenza, Monday, 21 September 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link
Wes Westrum (C) for the NY Giants in 1950 vs. the Reds, final score 12-2http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NY1/NY1195006240.shtml
Interestingly it WASN'T in the Pirates-Dodgers game from the same day, where the score was 21-12 for Brooklyn
― Bouncy Castlevania (Will M.), Monday, 21 September 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
Started looking up the 3-HR/triple guys, but couldn't find anybody for 1945-07-13--that date might be wrong.
Came across this in the Toronto Sun yesterday, so who knows how reliable it is: Marcus Stroman is the third guy ever, and first since a couple of Pirates in 1901 and 1902, to get his first three starts of the season in September and win all three. That seems kind of amazing. I know September call-ups are generally relegated to the bullpen, but you'd think there'd be at least a few in there who would have started and managed to win their first three starts.
― clemenza, Friday, 25 September 2015 11:48 (eight years ago) link
Had some time to kill in a mall yesterday, so I bought a preseason annual off the magazine rack (Athlon's), something I haven't done in probably a decade. I've got a ton of Street & Smith and Sporting News annuals from the '70s/'80s/'90s.
The end-page has a list of "Abstruse Stuff That Never Happened Until 2015." A few, like Daniel Murphy, were well publicized, but a few that caught my eye.
-- Nolan Arenadol's 89 XBH at third was a record--don't recall hearing that-- Evan Gattis first guy weighing at least 260 to hit 11 triples (one of those phony combination stats: probably a lot of guys weighing 259 have hit 10)-- Pierzynski first guy to hit exactly .300 four times-- Chris Young vs. Altuve in the playoffs: first 16-inch height differential-- 30+ doubles first 11 seasons (Cano)
Also, first time "abstruse" has ever been used in a baseball annual.
― clemenza, Saturday, 20 February 2016 14:36 (eight years ago) link
What's the record for HR in a loss? The White Sox hit seven solo home runs today and lost to the Jays, 10-8.
― clemenza, Saturday, 25 June 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link
apparently that tied the record! the Detroit Tigers had the record to themselves before today, via two separate occasions:
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=199505280DET
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-scores/boxscore.php?boxid=200408080DET
i don't know how up to date baseball almanac is, though.
― nomar, Saturday, 25 June 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link
looks like just those two (or so it would seem; i don't actually have a b-ref subscription). looking it up led me to this insane game, in which the losing team hit six and neither starter got more than one out:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN197905170.shtml
― mookieproof, Saturday, 25 June 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link
Thanks. They mentioned the more recent Tigers game just after I posted.
― clemenza, Saturday, 25 June 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link
Kris Bryant's three home runs and two doubles tonight is the first time that's happened since 1913? That's so weird--much rarer than even four home runs.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 02:33 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmzlnvwWEAAlLaU.jpg
(former pirates opening day starter) oliver perez just joined this list of recent relievers with two hits in a game
― mookieproof, Friday, 8 July 2016 01:37 (eight years ago) link
the orioles have tied the major league record (set by themselves in 1998-99) by going 58 straight games without a triple
― mookieproof, Friday, 5 August 2016 14:57 (eight years ago) link
Jays striking out 61 times in a 4-game series (22/14/14/11) must be a record.
― clemenza, Friday, 5 August 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link
AP confirms
"Houston pitchers had a major league-record 61 strikeouts in the four-game series — three more than the previous mark set by Cincinnati pitchers against San Diego in 2008. Astros pitchers also set a three-game series record with 52 against Baltimore from May 24-26."
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Friday, 5 August 2016 20:55 (eight years ago) link
congrats to BCrawford, u hairy fuckin' stud, on yr 7-hit game.
The previous player to get seven hits in a game was Pittsburgh Pirates infielder Rennie Stennett on Sept. 16, 1975, at the Chicago Cubs. He did it in nine innings, the only big leaguer to accomplish that feat since before 1900.
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 15:10 (eight years ago) link
brewers just became (i'm told) the eighth team since 1940 to score in every inning (assuming they don't have to play the bottom of the ninth)
there have been 18 perfect games since 1940
― mookieproof, Thursday, 11 August 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link
only eight?
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 11 August 2016 22:39 (eight years ago) link
update
It was the eighth time since 1961 a team has scored in each inning it hit during a nine-inning game, the Elias Sports Bureau said.
― mookieproof, Friday, 12 August 2016 01:14 (eight years ago) link
how bout my Brewers
― frogbs, Friday, 12 August 2016 03:43 (eight years ago) link
Jays the first team since the '54 Indians to win five straight series in Yankee Stadium.
Second one today, not as interesting: Osuna first 21-year-old to reach 47 career saves.
Bad news: Donaldson removed himself from the game with a possible hand injury.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
(Tyler) Naquin’s walkoff inside-the-parker was the second in club history, with the other coming in 1916 – by Braggo Roth at Dunn Field (later named League Park).
http://tribevibe.mlblogs.com/2016/08/20/photo-gallery-cleveland-indians-win-on-second-straight-tyler-naquin-walk-off/?partnerId=as_cle_20160820_65085866&adbid=10154466211519521&adbpl=fb&adbpr=46104914520
― earlnash, Saturday, 20 August 2016 15:02 (eight years ago) link
20K games have (what should be) an 75% HOF success rate:clemens, randy johnson, kerry wood, max scherzer
― k3vin k., Saturday, 5 June 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link
Can't seem to conjure one up on the internet, but I think a list of 15-plus-Ks/no-walks games also yields a high percentage of HOF'ers.
― clemenza, Saturday, 5 June 2021 03:26 (three years ago) link
was wondering if 4 HR games might also be predictive but then I remember that Scooter Gennett had one
― frogbs, Saturday, 5 June 2021 03:52 (three years ago) link
lol, I did the very same!
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 June 2021 04:04 (three years ago) link
mark whiten is in *my* hall of fame
― mookieproof, Saturday, 5 June 2021 05:49 (three years ago) link
a clear hall of famer, it skews the sample
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 June 2021 05:52 (three years ago) link
anyway four-homer games have five of 18 in the hall (and gil hodges was pretty close)
― mookieproof, Saturday, 5 June 2021 05:56 (three years ago) link
A reader wrote into James yesterday pointing out that Juan Marichal's debut--a 1-hit shutout--was the highest 9-inning Game Score of his career.
― clemenza, Thursday, 9 September 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link
As mentioned in the piece, this last happened in 1990 with Eddie Murray.
https://www.mlb.com/news/starling-marte-batting-average-stolen-base-history
― clemenza, Friday, 17 September 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link
this is unbelievably stupid:
Enter: Willie McGee. He hit .335 in 542 plate appearances for the Cardinals, through Aug. 29. That day, like Marte, he was traded to the A’s, with whom he finished up the season. He hit .274 in 123 plate appearances in Oakland, finishing with a .324 average overall.But since he was traded across leagues, that .335 average in the NL froze the moment he put on an A’s uniform. And since he was traded in August and had accumulated enough plate appearances to be qualified at the end of the season, he led the NL in batting average and won the batting title -- despite finishing the season in an A’s uniform, and with an overall batting average below Murray’s .330.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:01 (three years ago) link
in the modern era, analysts try to systematize the game. but willie mcgee knew how to game the system, which is why he is an icon
― typo punishment 3: people shouldn't have to feel like they have ea (Karl Malone), Saturday, 18 September 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link
i’m told that seattle has won 12 straight against oakland, all while the latter was 10+ games over .500, and that such a thing has never happened before
― mookieproof, Thursday, 30 September 2021 13:00 (two years ago) link
Toronto and Boston are a mess, but if they can rouse themselves enough over the weekend to win two (Toronto) and one (Boston) games, the AL East will have four 90-win teams.
https://baseballcloud.blog/2021/09/24/divisional-diversity-4-90-win-teams-2-100-win-teams-0-90-win-teams/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=divisional-diversity-4-90-win-teams-2-100-win-teams-0-90-win-teams
This has happened only once before in the divisional era: 1978, also the AL East (the Bucky Dent year), but when there were seven teams. It's never happened since going to six divisions in 1993.
― clemenza, Friday, 1 October 2021 12:34 (two years ago) link
i’m stoked for the madness but as a Boston fan i have to say i think they’re least deserving of the four so should probably just forfeit on principle
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 1 October 2021 12:47 (two years ago) link
They're more deserving than the Mariners, though, and that's who's probably going to take the wild card.
― clemenza, Friday, 1 October 2021 12:49 (two years ago) link
(Second wild-card, that is.)
― clemenza, Friday, 1 October 2021 12:50 (two years ago) link
For what it's worth, the '78 AL East has it all over the AL East this year. In '78 you had: peak '70s Yankees/Red Sox teams, producing probably the greatest divisional race ever and the eventual WS winner; a typically excellent Orioles-dynasty-era team; and a Brewers team on their way to becoming the great '82 team ("Harvey's Wallbangers"). There was even a fifth team, the Tigers, who didn't win 90 (86-76) but was the beginning of the run they had in the '80s (sophomore seasons for Trammell/Whitaker/Parrish). I count 13 HOF'ers from those five teams, minimum of two each.
This year? A (to me) weirdly overachieving Tampa team, okay Red Sox/Yankee teams, and a young and erratic Jays team. HOF...Stanton and Sale, maybe Bogarts or Cole or Chapman, and then you have to start looking at guys as young as Guerrero and Franco. I think the 90-win seasons have more to do with the rest of the league.
― clemenza, Friday, 1 October 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link
The Jays are actually pretty comparable to the '78 Tigers.
― clemenza, Friday, 1 October 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link
weirdly overachieving Tampa team
will likely be historically notable for having rookie Wander Franco on the team
― typo hell #7: 3-5 of those thinking of want to say (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 October 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link
oops, saw you noted that just after. but yeah, the "young guys" are not an afterthought. in the same way you remember the Tigers for having Trammell and Whitaker on there, the blue jays alone have Vlad and Bo Bichette
― typo hell #7: 3-5 of those thinking of want to say (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 October 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
no respect for MLB’s all-time K/9 starter, i see
― mookieproof, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
xp sorry clemenza, i posted before reading everything you wrote - i see you already directly compared the jays and the '78 tigers too!
i just wanted to talk about baseball and got excited <3
― typo hell #7: 3-5 of those thinking of want to say (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 October 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link
This qualifies as unusual these days: as i write this, Juan Soto has struck out only 10 times in his last 150 plate appearances. The last one happened just seconds ago.
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 2 October 2021 00:40 (two years ago) link
note: this was published late last week; mullins and zunino did in fact complete this feat while gallo just missed
The Future of Baseball Is Chris Hoiles By Jordan EllenbergCEDRIC MULLINS, THE center fielder for the Baltimore Orioles, is on the verge of making history. No, not because he last week he became the first Orioles player ever to hit 30 home runs and steal 30 bases in a season. It’s because, with only 59 runs batted in to go with those 30 HR, he is on the verge of finishing below the Hoiles Line -— the condition of having exactly twice as many RBI as home runs. The Hoiles Line is named after Chris Hoiles, the stalwart slugging catcher of the '90s Orioles teams, who is probably best known for having achieved the ultimate in baseball heroism on May 17, 1996, when he hit a grand slam with two outs and a full count in the bottom of the ninth inning, with his team trailing by three runs. Four years before that, though, Hoiles distinguished himself another way: by playing a full season while hitting 20 home runs and driving in only 40 runs. Ever since then, we've been keeping an eye on the stats to see which players manage to match or exceed that performance. A season below the Hoiles Line is one in which you drive yourself in more than you do everybody else on the team put together. It’s not an easy thing to do. Traditionally, sluggers who hit a lot of home runs also collect a lot of RBIs. In the whole history of baseball, only ten times has a player with at least 350 plate appearances finished at or below the Hoiles Line. But we are entering the age of Hoiles. Of those ten seasons, five have come since 2016. (And of the remaining five, two came from Barry Bonds in 2001 and 2003, when he broke the Hoiles Line along with all the normal parameters of baseball; Bonds couldn't drive in his teammates because in any remotely threatening situation, pitchers would just intentionally walk him.) Twenty-first century baseball has been relentlessly optimizing itself toward having pitchers strike out as many batters as possible, while hitters swing for the fences and don't mind if they whiff while trying to hit one out. Or else, like the ever-patient Chris Hoiles used to, those hitters settle for a walk, letting someone else try to collect the RBI. In this all-or-nothing environment, as batting averages drop to their lowest level in generations, there aren't many people trying to drive in runners from second base with a sharp single—or getting themselves to second base for someone else to knock in, either. Now, heading into the final weekend of 2021, we have the chance to see something really unprecedented: three Hoiles Line seasons in a single year. Besides Mullins, there’s Joey Gallo of the Yankees, who already Hoiles-ed in 2017 and currently sits at 38 HR and 76 RBI; and Mike Zunino of the Tampa Bay Rays, a full 3 RBI under the line at 32 HR and 61 RBI.Gallo is hitting .199 and leading the majors in strikeouts, and Zunino has nearly as many strikeouts as Gallo per at-bat. They’re classic Hoiles Line sluggers. Mullins isn’t. Baltimore's speedy young outfielder is batting .297, and his 37 doubles and 5 triples would be the most a Hoiles Line hitter has ever had in the live-ball era.The usual way to land under the Hoiles Line is simply to strike out whenever you don't homer. Cedric Mullins has discovered another way: to play on a team like the 2021 Orioles, where the batters ahead of you never get on base. Mullins is Baltimore's leadoff man. The first time he steps up to the plate in any game, the bases are automatically empty. For the rest of his plate appearances, the bases are almost automatically empty—the Orioles' seventh-, eighth-, and ninth-place hitters have combined to bat .210 with an on-base percentage of .271. There will be more hitters posting Hoiles Line seasons, the way baseball is played now. But there may not be many of those seasons as good, or as wasted, as the one Cedric Mullins is about to wind down.
CEDRIC MULLINS, THE center fielder for the Baltimore Orioles, is on the verge of making history. No, not because he last week he became the first Orioles player ever to hit 30 home runs and steal 30 bases in a season. It’s because, with only 59 runs batted in to go with those 30 HR, he is on the verge of finishing below the Hoiles Line -— the condition of having exactly twice as many RBI as home runs.
The Hoiles Line is named after Chris Hoiles, the stalwart slugging catcher of the '90s Orioles teams, who is probably best known for having achieved the ultimate in baseball heroism on May 17, 1996, when he hit a grand slam with two outs and a full count in the bottom of the ninth inning, with his team trailing by three runs. Four years before that, though, Hoiles distinguished himself another way: by playing a full season while hitting 20 home runs and driving in only 40 runs.
Ever since then, we've been keeping an eye on the stats to see which players manage to match or exceed that performance. A season below the Hoiles Line is one in which you drive yourself in more than you do everybody else on the team put together.
It’s not an easy thing to do. Traditionally, sluggers who hit a lot of home runs also collect a lot of RBIs. In the whole history of baseball, only ten times has a player with at least 350 plate appearances finished at or below the Hoiles Line. But we are entering the age of Hoiles. Of those ten seasons, five have come since 2016. (And of the remaining five, two came from Barry Bonds in 2001 and 2003, when he broke the Hoiles Line along with all the normal parameters of baseball; Bonds couldn't drive in his teammates because in any remotely threatening situation, pitchers would just intentionally walk him.)
Twenty-first century baseball has been relentlessly optimizing itself toward having pitchers strike out as many batters as possible, while hitters swing for the fences and don't mind if they whiff while trying to hit one out. Or else, like the ever-patient Chris Hoiles used to, those hitters settle for a walk, letting someone else try to collect the RBI. In this all-or-nothing environment, as batting averages drop to their lowest level in generations, there aren't many people trying to drive in runners from second base with a sharp single—or getting themselves to second base for someone else to knock in, either.
Now, heading into the final weekend of 2021, we have the chance to see something really unprecedented: three Hoiles Line seasons in a single year. Besides Mullins, there’s Joey Gallo of the Yankees, who already Hoiles-ed in 2017 and currently sits at 38 HR and 76 RBI; and Mike Zunino of the Tampa Bay Rays, a full 3 RBI under the line at 32 HR and 61 RBI.
Gallo is hitting .199 and leading the majors in strikeouts, and Zunino has nearly as many strikeouts as Gallo per at-bat. They’re classic Hoiles Line sluggers. Mullins isn’t. Baltimore's speedy young outfielder is batting .297, and his 37 doubles and 5 triples would be the most a Hoiles Line hitter has ever had in the live-ball era.
The usual way to land under the Hoiles Line is simply to strike out whenever you don't homer. Cedric Mullins has discovered another way: to play on a team like the 2021 Orioles, where the batters ahead of you never get on base. Mullins is Baltimore's leadoff man. The first time he steps up to the plate in any game, the bases are automatically empty. For the rest of his plate appearances, the bases are almost automatically empty—the Orioles' seventh-, eighth-, and ninth-place hitters have combined to bat .210 with an on-base percentage of .271. There will be more hitters posting Hoiles Line seasons, the way baseball is played now. But there may not be many of those seasons as good, or as wasted, as the one Cedric Mullins is about to wind down.
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:00 (two years ago) link
that is super interesting.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link
Don't know if it's a record, but one of Thermo's FB posts prompted me to look up Tony Gwynn's career splits, and Gwynn hit .302 for his career with two strikes (2053 plate appearances). I find that other-worldly. Checked Ichiro as a point of comparison: .253 over 4456 PA. (So Gwynn's splits are incomplete--and sure enough, nothing for Carew.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
According to this piece, it is indeed Gwynn. followed by bonds, then Helton!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link
but ya. probably not a lot of info on that going back a little.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link
That’s extraordinary.I would have thought Boggs was up there. Whenever he got to two strikes my dad would go “now he’s got him right where he wants him.”
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 December 2021 13:28 (two years ago) link
Looks like he was .262. Respectable but not even close.
http://baseballspast.com/samplepage_files/11094_master_%202_strike_hitting.pdf
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 9 December 2021 13:33 (two years ago) link
Never thought to check Boggs--should have. I really wonder about Carew; wouldn't be shocked if he was .275+, he had amazing bat control.
― clemenza, Thursday, 9 December 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link
gwynn's 1997, especially - .358 even with 2-strikes!
― my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 December 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
oh – and the post that got clem and i talking about two-strike hitting, was a video i shared of every two-strike foul ball Bo Bichette hit last season (there was well over 200, easily leading the league). he also led baseball, by a wide margin in total foul balls at 664.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 9 December 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link
haha, being awesome at hitting foul balls is very bad for watching baseball, but very good for Bo Bichette! stick control
― my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 December 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link