Bill (New Mexico): What do you think of the MLB move to install "veteran" umpires in the World Series after all the umpiring screwups of the post season so far? Will it actually help? Color me skeptical.
Eric Seidman: A lot of these blown calls have been from veteran umpires. In my mind there is no solution other than a correction-based system. Either the umps need to correct each other or someone needs to be watching the game capable of making corrections. If official scorers are simply watching the game and making decisions why not something for umpires?
― Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 24 October 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Long... but well-done:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20100606%2FSPORTS02%2F6060457%2F1318%2FHow-ump-went-from-Ohio-to-bigs-to-national-scrutiny&template=fullarticle
(could be xposted tot he kisckass media thread?)
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
http://twitter.com/DSpxp/status/24543405780
― Andy K, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link
ANAHEIM, Calif. -- New York Yankees catcher Russell Martin said plate umpire Laz Diaz decided on an unusual way to punish him for arguing balls and strikes.
Martin said Diaz wouldn't allow him to throw new baseballs back to his pitchers after fouls during New York's 6-5 win over the Los Angeles Angels on Wednesday night.
"Laz Diaz is a d---. Write it hard," Martin shouted as he came into the clubhouse.
Martin said the ball ban was put into effect after he and Diaz exchanged some words over strike calls early in the game.
"He said that it was a privilege that I had to earn, for me to throw the ball back," said the catcher, a seven-year veteran and three-time All Star. "That's never happened to me before. I even told him, because there's guys on base, I like to keep my arm loose. Nope. 'I'm not letting you throw the ball back.' That's pretty strange, to me. That's a good story, huh?"
― mookieproof, Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
Destroy all.
― Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
@Tom_Gage"Umpire told Alex (Avila), he missed the 2-2 pitch," said #Tigers Leyland about two-out walk that led to Boston's tie-breaking run in 7th
OH, THANKS.
― Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
New York Yankees catcher Russell Martin said plate umpire Laz Diaz decided on an unusual way to punish him for arguing balls and strikes.
He forced him to watch an eight-hour Filipino movie about melancholy?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_satkzCjK2F4/SPrB_tlklzI/AAAAAAAABKQ/Du_tHNiQugc/s320/melancholia2.jpg
(Directed by Laz Diaz--I'm just kidding, I was intrigued by it until I had to leave a couple of hours in for reasons that had nothing to do with the film.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
Oops--the film's by Lav Diaz.
tbf, it was just the new baseballs, and some umps throw them themselves as a matter of course -- i mean if russell martin can't keep his arm loose throwing back every other pitch that isn't fouled off, then he's got some other issues
that said, i don't think we need umpires who are so obviously petty and passive aggressive
― mookieproof, Friday, 1 June 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
laz diaz is the worst
― no hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, October 17, 2009 2:00 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― johnny crunch, Friday, 1 June 2012 01:36 (eleven years ago) link
cb bucknor thinks that's a bad call
― mookieproof, Friday, 1 June 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
The third vacancy stems from the retirement of Crew Chief Tim McClelland, who served 32-plus years and more than 4,200 games, including 94 Postseason games, as a Major League Umpire. The Michigan native had the second-most Major League experience among the active staff, trailing only 37-year Umpire Joe West. The Michigan State University product worked four World Series (1993, 2000, 2002 and 2006) in his career along with nine League Championship Series, five Division Series and three All-Star Games (1986, 1998, 2003). McClelland was the home plate umpire for the “Pine Tar Game” between the Kansas City Royals and the New York Yankees at Yankee Stadium on July 24, 1983, as well as Game Seven of the 2003 American League Championship Series at Yankee Stadium. He also called balls and strikes in the perfect game by Yankees left-hander David Wells on May 17, 1998 in New York.
― mookieproof, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link
His night ended with Freeman standing along the first base line, the All-Star's hands on his head after he bounced his batting helmet off the ground. From across the diamond, third base umpire John Hirschbeck ejected him.
Freeman said afterward he told Hirschbeck the call wasn't right, but stressed he didn't make it personal.
"I was just walking toward first base and I just told him ... I didn't say 'You're bad,' I said 'That's bad' a few times and (Hirschbeck) started pointing at me," Freeman said. "I kind of looked in the dugout and I heard him say 'Shut your f'n mouth.' So that's when I kind of looked at him and just (waved him off). Once I raised my hands is when he kicked me out."
Freeman said he had never heard an umpire say anything like that to a play before and made a point to stress there were young fans in the crowd.
"There's some kids in the stands and that's just not nice what he said," Freeman said.
http://www.foxsports.com/south/story/three-cuts-emotions-run-high-as-atlanta-braves-jump-on-slumping-washington-nationals-042715
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 19:09 (nine years ago) link
Hirschbeck looked like he was seriously spoiling for a fight last night. I was glad the cameras caught the "you shut your fuckin' mouth" part.
― WilliamC, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
Mike Winters, framing critic
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/30/home-plate-umpire-mike-winters-criticized-a-j-ellis-framing-ability/
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 30 May 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link
we needs robots
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/65689/are-you-ready-for-robot-umpires-in-the-world-series
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 October 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link
https://twitter.com/sung_minkim/status/722061770844717056/photo/1
― mookieproof, Monday, 18 April 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg-jz1tUcAAkYjk.jpg
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link
i really wish they'd update that legend so that it clearly indicated which ones are called strikes and which are swinging strikes. i forget and have to look it up every single time
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 16:02 (eight years ago) link
life is so hard
dale scott picking up right where barrett left off last night in colorado
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 01:57 (eight years ago) link
The minimum monthly salary for rookie and short-season Class A umpires, which had started at $1,900 under the previous five-year agreement, will rise to $2,000 under the new deal and increase to as much as $2,300 for a fourth-year umpire.For full-season Class A, the minimum rises from $2,000 to $2,100 and increases to $2,600 by a seventh season. At Double-A, the minimum goes up from $2,300 to $2,500 and rises to $3,100 by a ninth season. At Triple-A, it goes up from $2,600 to $2,900 and rises to $3,900 by a 14th season.
For full-season Class A, the minimum rises from $2,000 to $2,100 and increases to $2,600 by a seventh season. At Double-A, the minimum goes up from $2,300 to $2,500 and rises to $3,100 by a ninth season. At Triple-A, it goes up from $2,600 to $2,900 and rises to $3,900 by a 14th season.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18439218/minor-league-umpires-get-hotel-upgrade-family-leave-raises
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link
only human
http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2017/4/19/15355792/mets-umpire-stops-mid-game-smells-kc-barbecue-wrapper
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:20 (seven years ago) link
possibly as entertaining: umps may give miked explanations of relay rulings
JOE WEST: THE ANGLE DIDN’T SHOW CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT ... LISTEN, SHUT UP. ALL OF YOU SHUT UP AND STOP BOOING. I SAW THE VIDEO, AND YOU DIDN’T, SO SHUT. UP. ALRIGHT ...
[points into the stands]
YOU’RE GONE.
OUTTA HERE.
I WILL FIND YOU AND BITE YOU.
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2017/4/18/15342348/umpires-microphones-video-review-instant-replay
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link
lol
and yeah, that's a really dumb idea. and kind of a humiliating demotion for the umps as well. over a course of a few years they go from being the all-powerful arbitrators of justice to messengers for the decisions made by a mysterious replay room in nyc
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:20 (seven years ago) link
hey rookie umpire kid, go out there and tell the notoriously friendly philadelphia crowd that a call is going against them and explain why in really boring, obvious ways
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:21 (seven years ago) link
super - so they found another way to make them take up even more time.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:28 (seven years ago) link
my dream job is to be the guy who holds the bag for the umpire replay reviews:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Instantreplaymlb.jpg/280px-Instantreplaymlb.jpg
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link
http://deadspin.com/wow-that-was-some-bizarre-umpiring-in-nats-braves-1794446772
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9vHo-IWsAEhS3P.jpg
Werth struck out without swinging at any of those.
― 20-lol pileup (WilliamC), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
i'm fine w/ calling pitchouts as strikes on Werth
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link
So 2b Umpire Alan Porter just told Daniel Murphy "F-- you" when asked to shift in #nats game. @FightinHydrant and I are aghast. pic.twitter.com/jrd2QKPN6G— Steve Weddle (@steveweddle) June 13, 2017
personally i'm cool with anyone saying fuck you to daniel murphy
― na (NA), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 01:41 (six years ago) link
Joe West umpired his 5000th game tonight, and weighed in on last year's election for metaphorical reasons.
http://deadspin.com/lets-check-in-with-umpire-joe-west-about-wikileaks-and-1796281278
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link
joe west is the umpire america deserves
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 June 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link
U have got to be kidding me https://t.co/VQJaeIfbaX— Chipper Jones (@RealCJ10) July 4, 2017
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
Angel should learn to discriminate btwn balls and strikes
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link
This is still my all time favorite WBC moment, courtesy of Angel Hernandez pic.twitter.com/QbIW2bpUDd— Nutzo, the Clown (@azta110790) March 22, 2017
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
you can be bad at your job and still be discriminated against ; some of these complaints sound fairly valid
http://deadspin.com/veteran-mlb-umpire-sues-commissioners-office-for-racial-1796613520
― na (NA), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
yeah my first thought on this was "oh god why did it have to be angel hernandez of all people" but it's easier to swallow when the other guy is joe torre lol
― qualx, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link
kinda just seems like something joe would do, use his dumb bureaucratic post to shit on an ump he had a feud with a decade ago
― qualx, Wednesday, 5 July 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link
https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/07/20/joe-west-umpire-major-league-baseball
Look: We know you’re getting paid $25 million a year, but before you step into the batter’s box and try to hammer a fastball, you’re damn well going to say hello to Joe West.You have no choice. If you don’t greet him before your first plate appearance, West will hold up the game. He is the only umpire who does this, but so what? He is the only umpire who does a lot of things, like moonlight as a country-music singer, which has made him the only umpire with three nicknames: Country Joe, Cowboy Joe and the Blue Cowboy. He has a website, umpirejoewest.com, where he sells umpiring equipment, including a chest protector he invented, the WestVest. There is a reason Royals reliever Peter Moylan splits the umpiring profession into two groups: “There’s umpires, and there’s Joe West.”Other umpires work games; West controls them. He is the only umpire who stands between managers and other umpires on his crew, effectively ending arguments before they begin. Arguing with West directly is just as futile. When Ron Gardenhire managed the Twins, he went to dispute a call, and West warned him, “Don’t step in my dirt.” He meant the dirt around home plate. Gardenhire put one foot on it and was ejected before he opened his mouth.
You have no choice. If you don’t greet him before your first plate appearance, West will hold up the game. He is the only umpire who does this, but so what? He is the only umpire who does a lot of things, like moonlight as a country-music singer, which has made him the only umpire with three nicknames: Country Joe, Cowboy Joe and the Blue Cowboy. He has a website, umpirejoewest.com, where he sells umpiring equipment, including a chest protector he invented, the WestVest. There is a reason Royals reliever Peter Moylan splits the umpiring profession into two groups: “There’s umpires, and there’s Joe West.”
Other umpires work games; West controls them. He is the only umpire who stands between managers and other umpires on his crew, effectively ending arguments before they begin. Arguing with West directly is just as futile. When Ron Gardenhire managed the Twins, he went to dispute a call, and West warned him, “Don’t step in my dirt.” He meant the dirt around home plate. Gardenhire put one foot on it and was ejected before he opened his mouth.
― Andy K, Friday, 21 July 2017 14:11 (six years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFwrgUWV0AI2J-z.jpg
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 July 2017 18:08 (six years ago) link
is this a Joe West incident?
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 July 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
Will Little just threw a pitcher and catcher out of game on the same close pitch. Embarrassing. Bring on robot umps. pic.twitter.com/tnajBzV0Nu— Alex Pavlovic (@PavlovicNBCS) July 27, 2017
― mookieproof, Thursday, 27 July 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
i'm still mad at whoever tossed adrian beltre for moving the on-deck circle
― na (NA), Thursday, 27 July 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
imagine
http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2017/08/08/report-umpire-joe-west-suspended-three-games-for-bashing-adrian-beltre-publicly/
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
what the hell, that's totally undeserved
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link
the suspension that is, not the comments on Beltre. dude is a whiner.
though I do support him getting a 3-game suspension just for being a dick in general
― frogbs, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link
rare angel hernandez footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfqq48OEDdo
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 10 August 2017 00:57 (six years ago) link
Kinsler was asked if he was surprised how quickly he was ejected: "No, I'm surprised at how bad of an umpire he is." Angel Hernandez— Chris McCosky (@cmccosky) August 15, 2017
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 August 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
hey look, maybe the ump was just a sympathetic guy and saw an aging reliever that could do with a handout after his recent (5 years) form
― H.P, Friday, 24 May 2024 08:14 (yesterday) link
But on a more serious note:
What in the darn hell???
Famous pitchers and their favourite/least-favourite umpires:
https://open.substack.com/pub/joeposnanski/p/free-friday-umpire-state-of-mind?r=1jtu0&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
― clemenza, Friday, 24 May 2024 18:14 (yesterday) link
https://www.tiktok.com/@umpireauditor/video/7372843079381847339
― 龜, Saturday, 25 May 2024 13:37 (fifty-seven minutes ago) link