Do I need to register with BMI or ASCAP? what does it mean exactly?

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anyway, so it looks like a small local label is putting out our record...he's telling me I should go apply for BMI...what does that do exactly? I'm really not up on these type of things...

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 16:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

Oh Jesus. This has been sort of a nightmare for us, trying to figure this out.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 16:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

Actually, I'd tell you more, but I don't really know myself. I've just signed the forms they've told me to sign. I guess the main point, though, is that you can get royalties if your music receives airplay or is licensed to someone. (We're in a couple of regional commercials and theoretically we should be getting paid for each time they air, in addition to the flat fee we received for licensing them.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 16:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

does it cost money to sign up for BMI stuff?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 17:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

Not sure, we're doing ASCAP. But yeah, it will probably cost you an annual fee.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 17:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

The problem we've had is in determining the difference between songwriting royalties and publishing royalties, and if everyone in the band needs a separate membership, or just the band as a collective.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 17:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

DO THIS DO THIS DO THIS SHIT

My father was a country singer in the 70s, didn't really "make it" (I believe his highest charting single was #27 on the country charts). He's still getting royalties to this day. Europe has been playing his shit, apparently, and he just got a check for over a thousand bucks last month. Royalties are the gift that keep on giving

Give me Sufjan or give me credibility (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:52 (8 years ago) Permalink

xpost to jaymc

At least with regard to songwriting royalties, every member of your band needs a separate membership. That's why in the liner notes each songwriter is given credit for each particular song.

Give me Sufjan or give me credibility (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I think we've figured it all out. Like I said, I didn't do the majority of the legwork, I just signed stuff, haha.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

Huh, I should find out if my band has ever done this (esp. since I heard one of our tunes in the background of a movie last weekend!).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 19:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

No, there's no annual fee for BMI (and I don't think there's one for ASCAP) -- BMI is a nonprofit and the money they get comes from money that otherwise would go to you, if you were going to get any money. (So, they broker a contract with a club for $100/yr or whatever, and $95 of that is split among artists and $5 is kept by BMI, if I understand it right. The numbers here are totally ficticious.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 20:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

If I could just figure out how to tell BMI I've moved so I could get their sparkly newsletter again then my life would be complete.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 20:43 (8 years ago) Permalink


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