that mind of the master drummer article is cool, I need to give that one some time
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 04:09 (ten years ago) link
Hm. One of those links seems to break Zing
― In Walked Sho-Bud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 04:25 (ten years ago) link
And now most have these have gone off the net because of crüt
― In Walked Sho-Bud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 March 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link
what did I do!!!
― death and darkness and other night kinda shit (crüt), Monday, 10 March 2014 19:57 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, j/k. Didn't really think it was you, you just had the right vowel sound in your name to complete the expression.
― In Walked Sho-Bud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 March 2014 20:03 (ten years ago) link
Here is review of the Tymoczko book in case you are interested: http://www.mtosmt.org/issues/mto.11.17.3/mto.11.17.3.hook.html
― In Walked Sho-Bud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 13:31 (ten years ago) link
Ah, it's been a while since I read anything in this vein! I'm both interested and sceptical.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 03:46 (ten years ago) link
anything in this vein
meaning "mathematical modelling of pitch", which used to be a major area of interest for me, not what Tymoczko himself is doing specifically, which is probably fairly distinctive.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 03:49 (ten years ago) link
Ah, it's been a while since I read anything in this vein! I'm both interested and sceptical.― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― In Walked Sho-Bud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 12 March 2014 12:14 (ten years ago) link
My understanding is most of the history of math as applied to music up to and even after equal temperament had to do with finding various rational numbers to divide up the scale pleasingly. I believe Galileo's father had a big success in this. Then every once in a while somebody throws some group theory at musical structures such as guy named Riemann -Hugo, not Bernhard, but I don't know too much about this
― I Forgot More Than You'll Ever POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 March 2014 01:09 (ten years ago) link
Actually the book Musimathics: The Matematical Foundations of Music, by Gareth Loy seems to be an interesting overview of a bunch of different topics, moving from equal-temperament and just intonation through the physics of sound, along with psychoacoustics and acoustics, finally ending up at various methods of composition, stochastic and aleatory.
― I Forgot More Than You'll Ever POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 14 March 2014 01:40 (ten years ago) link
Not a lot of posters on this thread but those that are are choice.
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:29 (ten years ago) link
Anyway feel like the approach taken in that one book of building up a big theory and just plucking the low hanging fruit of the chord sequences from the theory tree is kind of not quite the most useful. More interested in simple ways to enumerate or generate the various facts related to the usual scale suspects.
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:41 (ten years ago) link
Anyway the other thread reminded that I found an interesting if verging on eccentric book about modal music that I can link to. I think one of the authors has a technical degree but I am tempted to say in this case it falls more under the rubric of polymath and music. By the other thread I mean worst music writing of course.
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:57 (ten years ago) link
http://www.modalogy.net/
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:59 (ten years ago) link
Feel bad for saying "verging on eccentric." Should have said "original" instead.
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:01 (ten years ago) link
I want to post in this thread but want to read more Tymoczko first.
― continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:26 (ten years ago) link
Loved the part in the MTO review of his book that said "if it seems that Tymoczko may overestimate his radicalism, it is not because he is doing so in the spirit of self-promotion, but because the bar for radicalism is set so low"
― continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:28 (ten years ago) link
Schneidermann typed:
Three overlapping goals of music theory are to explain why music sounds the way it does, find good ways to listen to music, and describe how to create music.
I am 100% on board with #1. Of #3 I think "but this only describes how to create specific kinds of music, I mean, it's useful for film composers I guess? but otherwise no?" Of #2 I think "ohhhh I get it, you're an asshole!!"
― continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:45 (ten years ago) link
Not Schneidermann specifically, I agree with that guy, I'm referring to that notion
― continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 30 March 2014 13:48 (ten years ago) link
Just read his section addressing that second point which was pretty otm.
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 15:03 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I like that guy, I like this thread! I gotta read this Tymoczko book
― continually topping myself (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:06 (ten years ago) link
Better you than me ;)
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:31 (ten years ago) link
Seriously the part I read was kind of interesting but I didn't want to follow him all the way into Chopin's Tesseract. I think the Modalogy's Chromatic Cube concept might be more useful.
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:33 (ten years ago) link
http://www.modalogy.net/ask.html
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:34 (ten years ago) link
I've been listening to Beethoven symphonies a lot lately actually and was thinking about how "square" (not necessarily in a bad way) the rhythms often are, and I was thinking about how unlike the rhythms of most of the world's other cultures these rhythms are, although they still tend to be a westerner's frame of reference for interpreting other culture's rhythms (even the fact that we think of a son clave as "3/2" is evidence of this.) I'm guessing there's some explanation that stems from the invention of the clock and from militarism (marching rhythms).― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Monday, March 3, 2014 4:11 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Monday, March 3, 2014 4:11 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/was-beethovens-metronome-wrong-9140958/http://www.ams.org/notices/201309/rnoti-p1146.pdf
― Don't Want To Know If Only You Were Lonely (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 13 July 2014 18:07 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w
― I Need Andmoreagain (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 July 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/but-seriously/2013/06/13/chladni-figures-amazing-resonance-experiment/
― I Need Andmoreagain (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 July 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
Which links to http://skullsinthestars.com/2013/05/02/physics-demonstrations-chladni-patterns/
― I Need Andmoreagain (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 July 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
Just was in contact with a guy who played on Dmitri T's record but he didn't have to read the book first.
― Hiriam (Come And Take Me) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 July 2014 00:11 (nine years ago) link
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/classical/features/the-enduring-myth-of-music-and-maths-2307387.html
― everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Sunday, 24 August 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link
Exactly
― Dear Ultraviolet Catastrophe Waitress (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 August 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
http://docstudio.tvo.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/masterseries_620x350/The-Man-Who-Saved-Geometry%5B1%5D_0.jpg
― Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 November 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
^H.S.M or Harold Scott MacDonald "Donald" Coxeter, musically inclined mathematician, Bourbaki antagonist and King of Infinite Space.
http://www.amazon.com/Music-Mathematics-From-Pythagoras-Fractals/dp/0199298939Know nothing about this book except I have enjoyed one of the editors writings on graph theory.
― Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 November 2014 21:21 (nine years ago) link
http://galileospendulum.org/2012/06/29/galileo-was-a-kickin-lute-player/
― Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:27 (nine years ago) link
(Warning, considered posting on worst writing about music thread)
― Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link
Could have sworn one dj on WKCR Bachfest was introduced as Terry Tao.
― Pigbag Wanderer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 02:47 (nine years ago) link
Right now, listening to Rob Schneiderman playing with his old buddy Brian Lynch's Unsung Heroes. Pretty good.
― Is It Because I'm Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 April 2015 00:23 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MzKx0fKg5o
― Ask Heavy Manners (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 13 July 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link
Had this discussion the other day and it almost got a little heated.
― TS: “8:05” vs. “905” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 August 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link