Bob Dylan "Shadows in the Night"

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like honestly all our bodies will betray us before it's over

what do you want? she knows she can't sing like she did, that's why she retired

if she came back for one night because a friend talked her into it and there was a crowd of people who wanted to appreciate what she meant to them, why on earth is that wrong?
so fucking what if she doesn't have a strong voice anymore? she doesn't owe you or anyone else shit. fuck "legacies", it's hard for people when they can't do the things that once defined
who they are anymore. you don't think she's thought about this?

i seemed like it was a nice moment, a nice evening for everyone who was there. that's all that matters.

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link

there's nothing wrong with it, as i said above. i'm glad she and her fans got something out of it. i was just sad at what had happened to her voice. a little shocked, even. that's it.

why don't you actually read what i wrote instead of projecting all this crap onto me?

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bob-dylan-thanks-jimi-hendrix-johnny-cash-in-musicares-speech-20150207

Dylan also poked fun at critics who trash his singing voice. "Why don't they say those same things about Leonard Cohen?" Dylan said. "Why do I get special treatment?"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 February 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2015/02/07/people-bob-dylan-dissed-musicares-speech-merle-haggard-tom-t-hall/23030167/

More of the folks Dylan praised or dissed

"Yakety yak, don't talk back. Charlie Brown is a clown. Baby, I'm a hog for you. Novelty songs. They weren't saying anything serious.

"But Doc's songs, they were better. This Magic Moment. Lonely Avenue. Save the Last Dance for Me. Those songs broke my heart. I figured I'd rather have his blessings any day than theirs."

curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 February 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link

Weird that he sort of trashed Merle Haggard, since he opened a tour of Bob's not too long ago.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 February 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

Lol at the sketchy visual provided by the artists referenced in his "sure Atlantic had good acts but sun was REVOLUTIONARY" bit, why not say Atlantic had a lot if natural talent but sun was intelligent bob

da croupier, Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link

"Y'know I never cared what people thought of my tunes but I gotta say everyone who dug me was outstanding and everyone who didn't was ok at best."

da croupier, Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

I hope his tombstone reads "I was probably better than you"

da croupier, Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link

Poor Marsha Ambrosius!

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

If she had only had the opportunity to go compliment him, before she sang the national anthem

curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link

is dylan off his meds? what a meany.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 8 February 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link

Merle, on FB today:

Bob Dylan I've admired your songs since 1964. "Don't Think Twice" Bob, Willie and I just recorded it on our new album.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 February 2015 00:20 (nine years ago) link

It's not half as mean in context. But who cares about that?

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 8 February 2015 00:25 (nine years ago) link

i read the context. it's still pretty churlish. oh well.

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 8 February 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link

when will the never-ending tour end? when the heroin runs out

when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 8 February 2015 01:58 (nine years ago) link

haha why don't people say that about… tom waits… or leonard cohen… or lou reed…

uh bob

j., Sunday, 8 February 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link

Don't think anyone's linked the whole transcript yet:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-grammys-2015-transcript-of-bob-dylans-musicares-person-of-year-speech-20150207-story.html#page=1

It seems weird that someone who has received as much critical acclaim as Dylan has over the years should still remember and seem bothered by ancient slights. I guess no matter how much praise you receive as an artist it's never enough. Still seems a bit petty. The story about Billy Lee Riley was genuinely touching though.

o. nate, Sunday, 8 February 2015 03:59 (nine years ago) link

The whole thing isn't nearly as bitter as ppl are making it out to be. There are a lot of really poignant parts, weird parts, goofy parts, mean parts, very dylan I guess.

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 February 2015 05:07 (nine years ago) link

A good and slightly boring album.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 February 2015 13:04 (nine years ago) link

The speech is pretty consistent with that last big Rolling Stone interview, where he hit some of the same petty grievances. Difference this time is naming so many names. (And weird ones, too -- I would've figured him for a Tom T. Hall fan, but maybe he never listened deeper than "I Love.") Anyway, hard to be surprised that the guy who wrote "Positively 4th Street" 50 years ago has grown into a surly old man.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 8 February 2015 13:18 (nine years ago) link

He also takes on two ILM sacred cows, ABBA and Steeely Dan. I don't think he's a fan of them being in the rock and roll hall of fame.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 8 February 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link

The song choices were confounding. A track from “Saved”? Another from “Oh Mercy”? Even the most dedicated Dylanologist would not only be disappointed, but would struggle to know the lyrics of these obscurities.

so what kind of Dylan fan would you be if you didn't applaud these choices?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 February 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

Kiki from Brooklyn, NY comments in the nytimes:

"Dylan was always just himself."
I strongly disagree. Robert Zimmerman has NEVER been himself in public, always appearing in character as Bob Dylan, and, really, that has been a key to his greatness. He plays the character of an idealized, oracular, mysterious poet, ever speaking truth in riddles and indirection. He has acted in movies, but he only plays the Bob Dylan character. He plays is so well, that most people don't even realize he's in character all the time when he's in public. I'm sure if we'd known the inside details of the middle class kid from Hibbing, or the details of where his lyrics came from, it would diminish our ability to take the character seriously. I suspect that there is a highly analytical and ambitious man behind the character, but we'll probably never know.

calstars, Sunday, 8 February 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link

Sam Cooke said this when told he had a beautiful voice: He said, "Well that's very kind of you, but voices ought not to be measured by how pretty they are. Instead they matter only if they convince you that they are telling the truth." Think about that the next time you [inaudible].

i just died laughing at this

example (crüt), Sunday, 8 February 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

Kiki otm

Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 February 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link

Right. It's not like the clear demarcation between, say, Jim and Iggy.

many lols, especially at

"Y'know I never cared what people thought of my tunes but I gotta say everyone who dug me was outstanding and everyone who didn't was ok at best."

― da croupier, Saturday, February 7, 2015 2:05 PM (4 days ago)

Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 February 2015 01:52 (nine years ago) link

I don't find this boring. I just want more. I'm glad that a Rogers & Hammerstein tune gets play, and I've always been a fan of 'Lucky Old Sun.' Frankie Laine due for some sort of revival. There's something so chill about this album. I had it shuffled with a Buddy Guy antholgoy and the new Father John Misty and it sort of felt like some sort of cranky-classy mdidle ground.

the captain beefheart of personal hygiene (soda), Thursday, 12 February 2015 02:04 (nine years ago) link

I want more score-settling with fellow musicians for perceived slights.

Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 February 2015 02:12 (nine years ago) link

Dylan needs to do series of McConaughey-style car ads were he throws other musicians out of said cars.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 February 2015 02:29 (nine years ago) link

Merle Haggard just knows what you need
But Buck Owens knows what you want

Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

follow up to the musicares speech
www.bobdylan.com/news/conversation-bill-flanagan

tylerw, Friday, 13 February 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link

or:
Holland-Dozier-Holland said Bob Dylan was just an illusion but Bill "Smokey" Robinson said his talent was growing, like the size of a fish that a man claims broke his reel, and we know who America's greatest living poet was, don't we?

Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link

(xp obv) thanks for link for weekend reading

Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

stadowing e-40 on the day shift

j., Tuesday, 3 March 2015 08:36 (nine years ago) link

I'll take another volume. I love this one.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:20 (nine years ago) link

yeah i think it said early on that he had recorded something upwards of 22 tracks... yeah, i'll take another volume, I'm really enjoying this album. wonder if the stuff he left off of Shadows is different in tone or the same general mellow vibe.
new noir-y video (starring robert davi!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOxy_hy22CA

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link

good video, needs more davi

adam, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link

god, both dylan and davi look like they're in warren beatty's dick tracy, but they don't actually need a bunch of makeup/prosthetics

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 15:47 (nine years ago) link

still laughing at that video, especially bob's period-appropriate hair styling

kind of violent though (again)

Brad C., Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:30 (nine years ago) link

still disappointed this isn't called Stadows in the Night

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link

what do you mean, it is

j., Tuesday, 3 March 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link

I thought it was Saddos in the Night

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 18:00 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

This is a pretty cool performance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=157&v=u_djZiswcrQ

niels, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 09:10 (eight years ago) link

yeah sounded great...
he added autumn leaves to his set on the most recent neverending tour jaunt.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

man he looks spooked tho, give the man a guitar to at least hold or something

j., Thursday, 21 May 2015 05:17 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

This is my most played record of 2015 thus far. I truly adore it.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 5 October 2015 22:41 (eight years ago) link

I guess I should get around to listening to it. The only post-2000 Dylan albums I don't own are this one and the Christmas one.

o. nate, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 01:42 (eight years ago) link

It's a great record for late night listening

gave it a spin sunday and lots of tunes now stuck in my head

niels, Tuesday, 6 October 2015 08:34 (eight years ago) link


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