All in all you're just another vote in the POLL! The Pink Floyd ballot poll thread (ILM Artist Poll Thread #49) - VOTING CLOSED

After that, he was strictly a dullsville British Blues Guitarist (with a few notable exceptions)

Hard to comment on this without knowing what exceptions you have in mind (Comfortably Numb?) but Gilmour is a GREAT guitarist with never a dullsville moment imo

I don't think it was necessarily a lack of facility, but more that the level of risk-taking as instrumentalists decreased steadily over the years

Don't think Waters-era Floyd were ever the go-to band for instrumental risk-taking but that is no kind of argument against them imo, they had other compensating factors imo

oops one or two too many imo's there, yuk

Have I just missed it, or does Animals never get played on classic-rock radio?

The songs are too long for the way radio works these days.

I was pretty drunk last night & didn't express myself too well but "idiot racist narcissist" is not something I thought would be a bone of contention, ok so we'll give him a pass for yelling the word coon for kicks in a stadium rock song cause he was IN CHARACTER as the cunt rock star he plays in real life but then you have deranged mutterings about "nips" & "wily Japanese", disgusting "almond eyes/yellow thighs" fetishism, he calls yoko ono a bitch for literally no reason in the middle of a song followed by a clip of someone going "herro"

I mean maybe you guys aren't as well versed in the catalogue as me but cmon the guy is a shit how is this even up for debate

I suppose it's a fair point. But
"Not Now, John" is parody?

Sorry, train bumped. My point was going to be, seems a fair thing to question – the Yoko example particularly struck me as well. But I'd tread more carefully on TFC – a lot of that seems to be him voicing the anxiety of the British working class, "Not Now, John" in particular.

The nips bit in final cut is not in character as a comedy commoner, also I think with that sort of thing I'll give you a pass once as a songwriter but when it becomes a pattern I'll question it, and waters is such a ludicrous figure to me that he gets no benefit of the doubt

Like his "anguished" bellow is the terriblest most ridiculous sound in music I can't believe people take him seriously "driving me INSAAAAAA" ha ha fuck off you silly old twat

Waters is a lifelong socialist and I refuse to believe that the nips line is anything other than an in-character, heavily ironized moment

It is possible to be socialist and racist

There's nothing ironic about "herro"

I've also never heard The Final Cut but I am listening right now for the first time. I HAVE heard both Radio KAOS and The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking, wtf is wrong with me

are we counting "Us & Them" and "The Piano Sequence" / whatever else it's been called on bootlegs together? it helps that it was labeled as "Us & Them (Rick Wright piano demo)" on the Immersion box. so I hope so! o/w I will vote for both.

waters is the kind of lifelong socialist who also supports the countryside alliance

or the kind of lifelong arsenal supporter who still puts 'you'll never walk alone' on Fearless

^gets it

Kinda assumed this would be the default position of Floyd fans actually, I mean roger waters has written at least two concept albums about what a cunt roger waters is (but he didn't have a dad u see) I'd have thought it uncontroversial to agree w him

Hard to comment on this without knowing what exceptions you have in mind (Comfortably Numb?) but Gilmour is a GREAT guitarist with never a dullsville moment imo

"Comfortably Numb" is definitely one exception, as is "Another Brick In The Wall, Part 2." My favorite Gilmour playing is on Ummagumma (the live disc), Saucerful, and the Pompeii "Echoes." As for post-DSOTM, his playing on WYWH and Animals really drags those records down for me; he seems bereft of ideas, and never ventures beyond his comfort zone.

Don't think Waters-era Floyd were ever the go-to band for instrumental risk-taking but that is no kind of argument against them imo, they had other compensating factors imo

Yeah, I could definitely see that. I should note that I don't hate post-DSOTM Floyd, and that I'll still defend The Final Cut, but it's frustrating that they never again tried to exploit their more risk-taking strengths as musicians (although, they really seemed to loosen up live, cf. Oakland '77). It's not that I think Waters-era Floyd is bad, just that it could've been better.

From Waters' last facebook post:

I give heartfelt thanks, to those of you who chose to go online and stand with me, in declaring their opposition to colonialism, occupation, racism, dogma, bigotry and narrow national self-interest, in favor instead, of internationalism, self determination, truth, reason, justice, understanding, discourse, liberty, peace and love.

Well they disowned most of their early funny stuff as floundering frippery didn't they? Xp

Lol ok "racism: I'm dead against it, peace and love peace and love" case closed

Did they? I honestly don't know, although I thought they all at least really dug what they'd done with Syd.

(xp)

Like his "anguished" bellow is the terriblest most ridiculous sound in music

Haha, I was searching for a Roger Waters solo cut to put in at No. 20. I can't remember which song it was, but there's some song out there off of P&CoH or KAOS where it segues seamlessly from one of those EEE-YAAAESSSAAAWWWWWW! into a David Sanborn saxophone solo.

Ummagumma & atom heart especially iirc, but they definitely used to claim that post-syd pre-moon they hadn't found their direction. Gilmour returned to atom heart tho so he obv changed his mind xp

I remember hearing a radio interview with Waters in which he dismissed Atom Heart Mother as "rubbish", and of course the Waters-era band never (or hardly ever?) played anything pre-Dark Side, although the Gilmour-led version of the band played "Astronomy Domine" in 1994.

Sanborn is on hitchhiker, with clapton & kamen - the lethal weapon dream team! Xp

how did I not know about this

19367 Pink Floyd is an asteroid that has been named in honour of the English musical group Pink Floyd. It was discovered on December 3, 1997. It is in a 3.82-year elliptical orbit around the sun. Its previous perihelion passage occurred on December 23, 2004 at 9h00 UT.

There is little information on the physical properties of 19367 Pink Floyd. Its diameter remains uncertain; range of 3 to 6 km is probable.

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Haha they hated being called "space rock" now a space rock is named after them

It's too bad Waters wasn't more keen on those records, although he did play "Set The Controls" on his solo tours.

and of course the Waters-era band never (or hardly ever?) played anything pre-Dark Side

They did "One of These Days" on their '74 tours, "Echoes" on their '74 and '75 tours, and CWTAE once in '77. That's pretty much it.

Ah ok, thanks. He played "If" on the Radio KAOS tour as well.

one thing all this Floyd listening these last two weeks has brought out is that I am a massive Rick Wright fan

Gilmour was playing "Wots... Uh The Deal," "Fat Old Sun," and "Echoes" on the On An Island tour.

Twelve hours and 10 minutes left to send your ballot in

when does rollout start?

oof, I thought it was end of day tomorrow. in that case let me ask again:

are we counting "Us & Them" and "The Piano Sequence" / whatever else it's been called on bootlegs together? it helps that it was labeled as "Us & Them (Rick Wright piano demo)" on the Immersion box. so I hope so! o/w I will vote for both.

me too, midnight dates always confuse me

when does rollout start?

The bonus polls (bootlegs, solo, Syd) will roll out tomorrow and then I'll just start working through them. Ballots are pretty diverse so it'll probably be the top 50 tracks

are we counting "Us & Them" and "The Piano Sequence" / whatever else it's been called on bootlegs together? it helps that it was labeled as "Us & Them (Rick Wright piano demo)" on the Immersion box. so I hope so! o/w I will vote for both.

I'm counting them together.

can we count all of pink floyd as one song y/n

where it segues seamlessly from one of those EEE-YAAAESSSAAAWWWWWW! into a David Sanborn saxophone solo.

I was mistaken, by the way. The anguished segue happens on The Gunner's Dream. So no Sanborn.

Dude, that's a great moment on that song.

"the gunner's dream" is badass as hell, nearly on my ballot

haha the bit I quoted is on that song too

btw i'm gonna name my next cat 'dick parry'

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this is my favourite post itt

voted!

38 ballots, 114 tracks with votes

Elvis, do you want me to change the thread title to reflect that the poll is closing tonight?

Yes please!