It's a cruel cruel summer: the sounds of deep tech / shuffle / cuttin shapes / upgrunt house / etc. etc. in 2014

Okay let's get this going with this slo-mo ballad crossover (I hope??) masterpiece that I am obsessed with:

https://soundcloud.com/djpioneer/dj-pioneer-tj-ft-dana-mckeon

Seriously this is the best thing I have ever heard.

is this the bobbins thread or are we being more specific?

Much more specific.

The bobbins thread is called house and techno bobbins 2014

yuk

yawn

Upgrunt? Really?

Also what is the difference between shuffling and cutting shapes? Are they different dances that people do to the same music?

"upgrunt" is a joke.

"Shufflin" and "cutitin shapes" are references to the dancing style.

http://i.imgur.com/08JnoXs.gif

what is this thread?

the track in the op is cool but doesn't feel own-thread worthy, certainly can't pull off one with as bad of a title as this.

yeah whatever guys.

I'm not even sure what the aesthetic boundaries of this thread are based on one track and barely any description!

rev you can go here and keep reading downwards for a while - for a while the jackin' thread drifted into a discussion of the deep tech scene.

But the "one track and minimal description to be greeted by the retching of grampas" was in the tradition of the uk funky thread so I had to maintain.

ban the rev

I said the track was cool, jeez.

too late, i banned you

This all sounds like stuff I'd dance to but would never get excited about tho.

otm

one track and minimal description to be greeted by the retching of grampas

i actually looked for a suitable vomit.gif before deciding that was too aggressive

is moda black derp blech i mean deep tech or is that too "old"

idgi either. is it that it's like 117 instead of 120 bpm?

It's okay dudes I'd be concerned if you weren't acting like tbh.

I feel this thread needs this classic r|t|c quote that has always stuck in my mind in relation to this scene:

let's lay all the notes out. where was q going before his untimely death? the house in house & garage, full circle ouroboros. maturation of bass? the medlar remix of disclosure. disclosure themselves. mk mix of storm queen. jamie jones vs azari big at the tail end of funky. bashmore topping the urban and scene charts with 'au seve'. garage scene raving to annie mac.

huxley. hot creations. nick hannam. hot creations and nick hannam. the jackin lot - cheap n cheerful boshers AND proper house-trained operators fluent in todays clubbing, not the late, crippled baby steps house deejaying that permeated and set off london funky. hannah wants, maya jane coles , what the diff? the garage scene has never been closer to house than it has been now. is it one sided? is it mutual? if they didnt meet halfway where did they meet? murky, got a bass to it. real actual bass. 'hialeah house party' is grimy as hell. vox samples - wiseguys or brandy or fonda rae or gotye or allure it doesnt matter don't you see

house/four on the floor isn't my area of expertise but this makes me think of aeroplane's 'whispers' and other assorted nu disco.

150 words to say "deep house is in vogue again," nice xp

i think there is a bit of nu-disco/deep house convergence in the u.s. actually

That rtc post is not really about this stuff strictly, though it's all related - this is more on a cold populist tech-house with burbling basslines and occasional vocals tip, and really is in that Pascalian "you have to start praying before you will believe" camp.

In that regard the track I linked in the OP is quite light and slow - the key genre ingredient in the track is the bass.

if you could work that together w/ some sort of 'the difficulty of sitting alone in a room' thing i would be v. gratified

lol

slow compared to what?

Well compared to something like Max Milan & Donae'o's "Hold On":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qDXICAqrs

Of course as per usual all this stuff gets pitched up in the mix in any event.

but it's only 2 - 3 bpm slower than that - is that, like, a huge difference in houseland? serious question.

No, it's just that listening to the first tune without pitching up gives off a slower vibe generally - e.g. normally comparing this stuff to Aeroplane wouldn't make any sense.

Is there a good mix of this stuff somewhere I should listen to?

This set remains a real keeper for me, though it only really heats up after the first few tunes:

set picked fairly at random (they're all quite even really, although the one with the shay & sinista guest mix recently that i believe you heard was a bit of a flop imo). iirc radford accidentally coins the splendid phrase "upgrunt house" here btw

[Rinse FM Podcast] Mark Radford - 19th October 2013
http://www5.zippyshare.com/v/712779/file.html

Oliver Rees - Energy
D'Vinci - Modus Operandi
NRKY - Self Destruct
Area 8 - I Am
Truce ft Kenny Knots - Take Control
Rs4 - Walking On
Nightshift - Cult Music
False Identity - Goon To A Goblin
Shay & Sinista - To You
Roger Porterfield - Candy Acid
Fluorescent Noise - Go Deep
Martin Ikin - Nothing To Fear
Fluorescent Noise - Feel The Same
Nightshift - Higher
D'Vinci - Every Weekend
Rs4 - Locked On You
Carnao Beats ft Donae'o - Gone In The Morning
Hugo Massien - Menace
Kane Law - Free Your Mind
Rs4 - In The Dark
Rs4 & Pretty Casual (aka Kane Law) - Time Out
Hugo Massien - Untitled
Rhys Catania - One Life

― r|t|c, Sunday, December 8, 2013 10:30 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thx

so djs generally speed these tracks up in sets, but they didn't speed up Aeroplane?

Not generally - Aeroplane tracks were designed to play at a disco tempo.

But not particularly much turns on this issue IMO - the difference between this scene and Aeroplane is not founded in tempo primarily.

bookmarked btw, only mentioning this as a counter to the negs

If you can't feel it, you're not close enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8iursOmImo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FOesMUtmB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PriKWfE-sic

I spent an hour looking at #cuttingshapes youtubes the other day after a Youtube commenter mentioned the movement in the Jaded video

I approve of this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqdwud89AJk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wyzn0UvA6I

the thread-starting track is AMAZING

the word "upgrunt" is emphatically not amazing

also this track is too good, i don't want to hear it sped up

Looks like Motion is on the 20th btw.

I am obsessed with how relentlessly percussive and shuddering these Jay Power sets are. On the one hand he can be quite diverse (love it when he drops Sami Sanchez's "Dirty Trumpet") but there's an underlying aesthetic consistency and vision and purpose, he has a very specific notion of what it is that these tracks are supposed to do.

Like this fractured KG3 track he plays:

https://soundcloud.com/kg3-carlitosway/kg3-dont-know

It's like the groove is shaking itself to pieces.

And this tune! Jamie De Von "Let Us Commit":

https://soundcloud.com/metronmusic/jamie-de-von-let-us-commit

circa 20 minutes in the latest jay power mix is some kind of peak

lets not rush to congratulate jay power while denigrating the work of guys like mark radford, b3 and more

I'm not!

i listen enough to know the difference and i am more than happy to give jay and kg3 the auteurist shine that i wouldnt anyone else

as a veteran of scenius vs genius fights from the uk funky days, I think there are a couple of spins on this issue:

1. People bigging up one or two artists at the expense of just about everyone else - i.e. jimitheexploder on Hugo Massien. Anyone who approaches a style in this way is unlikely to have much of use to say about it, given their starting rebuttable presumption is that the style's underlying formula is a straightjacket that needs to be transcended.

2. People bigging up artists with only tangential connections to the scene as if they're the leading lights of it. This is not really a problem in isolation except when it distorts the conversation, and of course it gets frustrating when it's repeated endlessly. Not sure what would fit this mould for deep tech at the moment given that outsider-crossover seems to happen on a tune-by-tune basis. "I love that Sam Shiba tune" is a fairly harmless variant. I haven't seen any outsiders trying to set themselves up as key diplomatic envoys to the world of deep tech, excepting Brackles perhaps (and he doesn't seem to have rebuilt a public rep around it, yet).

3. People investigating a couple of artists and going no further, assuming that this is all there is to know. Whether this is a problem depends on how it distorts their notion of what the music is: if you premised your entire notion of uk funky on Crazy Cousinz then you might get a somewhat partial view of the genre (though not as partial as might be assumed, I'd wager), but if your laziness was not venturing beyond Marcus Nasty radio sets then I think the "problem" would be fairly minor: yes, you'd be missing out on certain artists and certain approaches to the music but your take would still be pretty well-rounded all things considered. For deep tech I think the same would be largely true of someone who had only listened to Mark Radford sets, though I'd be more inclined to qualify that a bit.

Importantly, I think selective bias is always less of a problem when what you're paying attention to is exemplary of the scene.

If Jay Power was to become a Marcus-like figure (which obv remains to be seen) I suspect it'd be in large part because of the sense in which his sets lock into a vision of the scene that feels very true to both its sense of identity and its creative possibility.

i do chat a lot of unneeded shit sometimes so apologies fellas

jay is def top 3 atm

Like this fractured KG3 track he plays:

https://soundcloud.com/kg3-carlitosway/kg3-dont-know

So so good.

boop di boop

https://soundcloud.com/soulsity/sous005sd3-a-mp-th-body

Hello everyone and welcome to channel genial, if you've just joined us tonight there is convivial atmosphere and there have already been a few early vibes in this woodland encounter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCZp0V5QzeE

I believe i have disembarked at the wrong station

https://soundcloud.com/studio37music/s37001

discuss

this thread has gone weirdly dormant

i've been enjoying the sets of lance morgan, eg

https://soundcloud.com/djlancemorgan/frequency-3rd-anniversary-promo-cd-lance-morgan-28-02-15-warehouse-ldn

https://soundcloud.com/k-flint/for-promotional-use-only-2

no prisoners

totally amazing

It's should be acknowledged in this space that Audio Rehab Vol 2. is out and is pure fire.

https://soundcloud.com/k-flint/for-promotional-use-only-2

no prisoners

― r|t|c, Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:04 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

banging

heard this on radio at 3 am ... richard "humpty" vission (who has sadly dropped the "humpty" from his name) played it on his syndicated show ... but is it shuffle?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOz7S4PibxE

tazer x tink - wet dollars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=44&v=m_7o4q5MjTw

^ official video, not a bootleg

on black butter!

Weird, ends up with a bit of an Azealia Banks vibe.

Also the track is like two years old now, isn't it? That said, still sounds fresh.

Waiting now for the seemingly inevitable Hyperdub deep tech release.

https://soundcloud.com/coolyg/tatey-baby-mix-by-cooly-g

2 late

Nightshift Blitz, just out, is the hypest thing in a while https://soundcloud.com/houseofhustle/hoh-015-nightshift-blitz

And this older K Master mix is starting off the same https://soundcloud.com/k-master-1/k-master-usd-fm-radioshow-w-jay-power-perch-mc-guest-mix-5th-nov-2014

been playing this Archie B mix lots http://www.datatransmission.co.uk/news/mix-of-the-day-archie-b/

lots of old rave vocals

"Waiting now for the seemingly inevitable Hyperdub deep tech release.

― MikoMcha, Friday, June 5, 2015 6:48 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

http://thump.vice.com/en_uk/track/cooly-gs-on-a-mad-one-with-this-heavy-hitter-from-new-ep-armzhouse

:/

I'm not sure whether it's pleasing or annoying that this really is just straight up deep tech.

Yeah. What's definitely annoying is that the piece (and she) doesn't make any reference to the scene or anything, just seems to come out of nowhere.

in happier news Jay Power has outdone himself with this one https://soundcloud.com/djjaypower/ay-power-perch-mc-london-live-1030fm-962015

when the track at 14:30 comes in is the height of everything. anyone know what it is?

Kane Law pulls in the same track halfway through his feature on Radford in April and you can use the two as an exhibit in how great Jay is as a DJ. Like you say Tim "he has a very specific notion of what it is that these tracks are supposed to do" that Kane and most others don't. lets it play out in full, while Kane slams it in without ceremony and cuts it off halfway through. (That Kane's section of the mix is still thrilling despite this is is a tribute to how terrific this music is). https://soundcloud.com/rinsefm/markradford180415

Not just jay though -- Perch knows exactly when to drop in and out of the mix. Went to House of Silk last month and the MC was awful, stomping over everything, but Perch brings it. love his instagram too https://instagram.com/p/55VVbNR1Yr/?taken-by=realperchmc

https://soundcloud.com/kanelawmusic/clip-of-mark-radford-live-from-ministry-of-sound-playing-higher-by-hugo-massien-kane-law-remix

thanks!

good cooly g track

Oh wow this Jay Power set

As with other his earlier sets discussed above he has this real knack of making each track sound like a step up from whatever it's emerging out of, though I'm pretty sure this is an illusion.

A little late, but "From Above" is really great! Only liking a pretty small percentage of this music overall.

This cutting shapes stuff is not how I would have imagined moving to it, but I guess that's pretty moot considering how unlikely it is I will be out dancing to this in clubs any time soon.

wait . . . did anyone know that Luke Larrell who did Serious People a k a the first Audio Rehab release a k a the first deep tech release was previously Flukes from Crazy Cousinz?? Just stumbled on this fact by accident here https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151919639114477&id=43921789476 and hadn't seen any mention of it

latest in k.flint's for promotional use only series https://soundcloud.com/k-flint/for-promotional-use-only-3

if anyone's still out there . . . Cooly G makes the Thump tracks of the year list . . . https://thump.vice.com/en_us/article/the-50-best-tracks-of-2015

Self-promotion but I think my review (brutally shortened though it may have been) did a decent job of explaining the vibe of the release:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16809-this-aint-chicago-the-underground-sound-of-uk-house-and-acid-1987-1991/

― Tim F, Friday, 22 February 2013 22:38 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm reckoning if you sub the ecstasy blear there for kanye style modern anomie & grime refugee aggro influence and then inject that into a confluence of the shuffling/shapes urban mnml scene and ejeca/waze & odyssey acid warehouse revival u might possibly have the ldn flavour to come

just saying like

― r|t|c, Friday, 22 February 2013 23:03 Bookmark

https://soundcloud.com/skreamizm/sets/techno-eski-ideas

i'm not srsly rating myself for that before anyone gets funny :)

hopefully it may at least still come to pass that strange static/vybe/kg3 aren't making simultaneously the most crucial yet most irrelevant music ever though. recent stuff is mind-blowing and there just doesnt seem any place for it

Eski techno = A+ hypothetical genre would bang all that shit.

tbh the wishful hypothetical thing i'd most be taken with is some sort of amniotic melange biz drawing from the strange jazzy abstraction of that uk house and acid comp plus the more uncommon bits of that woebot 89-93 uk techno mix on the other thread. lil silva became larry heard so could arun verone become kirk degiorgio etc

basically the thought of if factmag will turn everything into idm then why not have that add up to something more not less idk

lol everyone i can dimly remember from the deeptech scene who began to make sort of interesting experimental guff like that (like imagemk, karlton phillips) has now deleted them off their soundclouds and went all linear zzz again

whats the good non afrobeats non grime non factnerd uk dance music this year. is there a 2016 thread equiv i missed

death by a thousand cuttin shapes

I for one have no clue.

all these dead links make for one depressing thread!!

But “one track and minimal description to be greeted by the retching of grampas” really made me lol.

oh yah lots of good discourse ... just wish the mixes & tracks werent like , vanished