this is relatively easy considering I only like three songs on this
― SHAUN (DJP), Friday, 6 December 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link
Give Live Back to Music v. Fragments of Time
― 乒乓, Friday, 6 December 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
me I'm Touch-y
― nashwan, Friday, 6 December 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
Giorgio By Moroder, ahead of Touch and Fragments Of Time.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 6 December 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
i really hope that last option doesn't win although i was tempted to vote that myself, i've had to force myself to listen to this one again
― frogbs, Friday, 6 December 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
Giorgio's the one that best captures the flavour of the record: retro-futurist, fannish, meticulous, eccentric, surprising.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 6 December 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
probably as a one off hit "Instant Crush" but this is an albumy album imo
― Working Class Rejected Street Boot Brat (Noodle Vague), Friday, 6 December 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, "Giorgio", for me. surprisingly I still like "Get Lucky". and "Lose yourself"also "Doin it right" and "Horizon".
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 6 December 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
zzz
― the late great, Friday, 6 December 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
Get Lucky
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
I'm also partial to "Beyond," "Give Life Back To Music," and "Fragments of Time" tho
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
Beyond is cool
― Al He Miola (Spottie), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Friday, December 6, 2013 11:06 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i love these three, but instant crush is probably my favorite.
― mizzell, Friday, 6 December 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
Guitar!
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 6 December 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
get lucky. could pretend it's not but the rest of the album is ornamental 'nydangle by comparison IMO.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
not that other songs don't have their moments, but y'know, it's the track you wait for when you listen to it.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
contact
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
stop spreading lies about me dog latin
― imago hard or go haim (wins), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
I've only bothered listening to it once, Giorgio is the only track that made much of an impression apart from the big singles.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 6 December 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
Instant Crush
― skip, Friday, 6 December 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link
Just put this on a couple days ago for the first time in a while and it holds up. Went for "Lose Yourself to Dance" over "Doin' It Right", "Get Lucky", "Fragments of Time".
― when a real whiney hold you down, you sposed to drown (The Reverend), Friday, 6 December 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
Sometimes the most obvious answer is the correct one.
― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 December 2013 02:34 (ten years ago) link
Yeah it's easily 'get lucky'. I like 'instant crush', 'doin it right' and 'lose yourself to dance' a fair bit but I just never feel compelled to go back to this.
― ewar woowar (or something), Sunday, 8 December 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link
I'm not entirely sure what the general consensus on this record is around here--or if there even is one, as plenty seem to like it a lot and plenty more expressed disappointment in the original discussions on it--but I ran out of patience with it sometime around August.
― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Sunday, 8 December 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link
The obvious answer is Doin it Right. Moroder is skippable garbage wtf w you people
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 8 December 2013 03:08 (ten years ago) link
The obvious answer is Touch wth is wrong with everyone
― freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Sunday, 8 December 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link
about half of this is a really solid Trans Am record imo
― some dude, Sunday, 8 December 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link
My Fave is Giorgio.
― Mark, Sunday, 8 December 2013 07:40 (ten years ago) link
Lucky vs Crush vs Doing it rightsurprised people seem to have lost interest in this one - it's one of the CDs that always linger in my car and it still brings so much pleasure whenever I put it onGiorgio and Contact are the only tow I generally skip
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 8 December 2013 08:31 (ten years ago) link
'Giorgio By Moroder' just ahead of 'Contact'.
― zip-a-dee-doo-dah, motherfucker! (Turrican), Sunday, 8 December 2013 08:36 (ten years ago) link
"Fragments of Time", but I still like this record as a whole; slightly disappointing to see that interest has generally faded away.
― Arctic Mindbath, Sunday, 8 December 2013 10:52 (ten years ago) link
Not sure it's people losing interest so much as people having run out of new things to say.
― freemen (on the) space (seandalai), Sunday, 8 December 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
love "Horizon" and p much loathe the album proper so
― Simon H., Sunday, 8 December 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, December 7, 2013 9:22 PM (Yesterday)
haha this is so otm, how did no one draw this comparison yet
― |$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Sunday, 8 December 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
yeah good call
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 12 December 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link
If this whole album had been a bit like Touch I'd have freaking loved it.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Thursday, 12 December 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 13 December 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link
didnt vote but excellent results
― i am curious #yolo (wins), Friday, 13 December 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link
excellent resultzzzzzzzzzzz
― the late great, Friday, 13 December 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
Don't even remember which one "Fragments of Time" is.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 13 December 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
v. surprised and pleased that "Fragments of Time" won this, it's a good little gem. reminiscent of Steely Dan in a way.
― president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Friday, 13 December 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link
total steely dan.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 13 December 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
Cannot agree re Trans Am, only overlap in that they both do "80s" but Trans Am's production sounded like a band on Thrill Jockey (they were good though).
― Mark, Friday, 13 December 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
Those are probably my five favourite songs on the album. Good work everyone.
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 13 December 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link
I want to find voters of "Lose Yourself to Dance" and slap them with Trans Am cd's.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 December 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
Hi!
― Kitchen Person, Friday, 13 December 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
By all means slap me with trans am. I haven't heard anything by em
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Friday, 13 December 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link
saw them in 2001 -- ick. Bad makeup.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 December 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link
This album is total horsehit aside from three songs
― DJP, Saturday, April 11, 2015 6:40 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If those three are "Giorgio By Moroder", "Get Lucky", and "Give Life Back to Music" then this is OTM!!
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 11 April 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link
haven't heard it in a while, but pretty sure I would still love it, aside from "Giorgio"
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 11 April 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
this album is ... not for me
― the late great, Saturday, 11 April 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link
listened today and confirmed it is still the best album of music
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 11 April 2015 20:32 (nine years ago) link
i think the wrongness and the skeletal and drifting qualities of some of the pastiches actually contributes to my enjoyment of the record? you can hear the music they're aiming for spectrally, but it's impossible to precisely simulate, and the tension between those things is very rich imo
to add to this i guess my main criticism of the record is that discovery already did this, but i enjoy the sound of them going full tribute act. it's like george benson fanfiction
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 April 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
hahaha yes "george benson fanfiction"
― The Reverend, Saturday, 11 April 2015 21:06 (nine years ago) link
if by "you can hear the music they're aiming for spectrally" means "enduring Pharrell's fucking awful singing on 'Lose Yourself to Dance,'" then write your own fan fiction.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 April 2015 21:27 (nine years ago) link
Oh Mr Snrub *chuckles to self while bemusedly shaking head*
― DJP, Saturday, 11 April 2015 21:29 (nine years ago) link
lol alfred
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 April 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link
This record genuinely helped me through an exceptionally difficult period. I can't think of any other album in at least the last 10 years that I played so often, and absorbed so intently. The sequencing felt spot-on, and the cumulative message hit me where it mattered.
But that was two years ago, and I've not since been minded to break out of the inevitable refractory period.
Until now. I'll give it another listen tomorrow, and will pray that it hasn't all turned to shit.
― mike t-diva, Saturday, 11 April 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
here take my shirt and just go ahead and wipe up all the sweat sweat sweat
― conrad, Saturday, 11 April 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link
@insufficiently fam listen to the five-string bass and record scratches at the end of "giorgio." total nu metal
and yes, some critics know about mainstream disco and fleetwood mac and all that, but really not many are at all literate w/r/t prog. and then daft punk's fanbase generally knows almost nothing about any of that stuff. "prog" was the single biggest witchhunt word directed towards anyone who had an opinion about RAM that was even just one degree cooler than "it's revolutionary"
― soyrev, Sunday, 12 April 2015 00:15 (nine years ago) link
is there more prog here than there is disco/post-disco/"what a fool believes"?
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 April 2015 00:28 (nine years ago) link
add jazz fusion to that mix
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 April 2015 00:59 (nine years ago) link
The album's structure and ~concept~ count it as prog in some measure.
― circa1916, Sunday, 12 April 2015 01:26 (nine years ago) link
@insufficiently not particularly! not even. but that was *the* red herring of pretty much every "discussion" of this album i saw (granted, i wasn't on ILM at the time, so i'll presume present company excluded). every time someone complained, there would be a greek chorus of naysayers to the tune of, "you just hate that it's not like discovery, daft punk made a prog album, we need to judge it by prog standards" etc etc. (by which standards, like any other, i personally think it's an embarrassing mess.)
i'll grant daft punk maybe didn't foresee these kinds of debates happening, but i do think they knew full well they could not succeed on the terms of the entire past decade+ of dance music they'd inspired (which, again, their "Get Lucky"/abortive self-remix series corroborates; these guys just don't have it anymore), and obviously as a cop-out human after all was a total failure (the narrative surrounding the hype of RAM made it seem like that album never even happened). so the decision to make this grandiose, rockist betrayal of everything they'd wrought (remember all those "back to REAL music" interviews they and all their collaborators gave for a full year around this thing, as though everybody should delete ableton and make a $2 million studio album) seemed really deliberate, and preemptive of the criticism they would have received had they done literally anything else with that album.
― soyrev, Sunday, 12 April 2015 01:29 (nine years ago) link
but yes, as circa1916 says, the structure/concept is def prog, and so are a fair number of the actual songs themselves ("giorgio" and three or four of the later tracks i can't get straight at this point – "beyond" and "touch" and all that).
― soyrev, Sunday, 12 April 2015 01:31 (nine years ago) link
i fuck w/"beyond" heavy
― example (crüt), Sunday, 12 April 2015 03:23 (nine years ago) link
Human After All is fantastic
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 12 April 2015 03:32 (nine years ago) link
Only "narrative" I recall picking up on in RAM press ws that Thomas had been v down when making HAA and there ws some reaction to that in RAM
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 12 April 2015 03:35 (nine years ago) link
i thought that was guy-man
― example (crüt), Sunday, 12 April 2015 03:36 (nine years ago) link
Oh I guess it was him then. Anyway that's abt all I remember of HAA's role in the RAM narrative
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 12 April 2015 03:45 (nine years ago) link
Feel kinda bad for Guy-Man now tbh
human after all is okay. it's better than RAM for sure. i actually dig the concept behind both albums (HAA especially), the execution is just miles off the mark.
― soyrev, Sunday, 12 April 2015 03:50 (nine years ago) link
(though they have a song apiece that really nails their album concepts: "give life" and "make love")
― soyrev, Sunday, 12 April 2015 03:52 (nine years ago) link
lose yourself to dance is hella good, nile's guitar shreds, and the beat fucking slaps hard, will accept pharrel's reedy voice as price of admission
― brosario nawson (m bison), Sunday, 12 April 2015 04:03 (nine years ago) link
I don't know about genres and narratives, but I sure do like the notes on this album. I particularly like the pitch and timbre of those notes, and how they arranged them and the beat with respect to time. The relative amplitudes of the notes? Yeah, I enjoy them too.
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 12 April 2015 04:38 (nine years ago) link
if i hadn't made it clear, i don't like any of those things about it, either =/
― soyrev, Sunday, 12 April 2015 04:50 (nine years ago) link
well I'm afraid that you must at least like the notes on the album. those notes show up on bunch of other albums imo.
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 12 April 2015 04:57 (nine years ago) link
christ.
― soyrev, Sunday, 12 April 2015 05:41 (nine years ago) link
every time someone complained, there would be a greek chorus of naysayers to the tune of, "you just hate that it's not like discovery, daft punk made a prog album, we need to judge it by prog standards" etc etc. (by which standards, like any other, i personally think it's an embarrassing mess.)
like, uh, okay, what?
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Sunday, 12 April 2015 08:01 (nine years ago) link
is there another board where this reaction is documented
Maybe it ws Greek
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 12 April 2015 08:03 (nine years ago) link
loved this album, though i generally despise pharrell (i imagine daft punk know little about modern R&B, which is why they went for such a shitty vocalist) so found it hard to really like the songs he is on, though i still like lose yourself in spite of him having to sing it. i cant actually pick a favourite, when i was listening to this a lot, it changed all the time. though the instrumentals did seem the most dissapointing.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 12 April 2015 08:35 (nine years ago) link
if you want real/old/proper daft punk, you should just go and find kanye's yeezus album.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 12 April 2015 08:37 (nine years ago) link
@insufficiently lastfm daft punk page for /sure/ and youtube like heck. see also: twitter. i also was checking into the daft club forums a bit at the time, and iirc that was the general dichotomy of the reactions there as well.
i wouldn't be surprised if there was some of it here, too, but given i only really started checking these boards a few months ago that's a total guess on my part.
― soyrev, Sunday, 12 April 2015 08:49 (nine years ago) link
this album's execution is largely excellent in a very obvious way - the concept is easily the bigger 'problem' (in that it's ultimately not all that interesting to enough people besides DP to homage so directly so much)
― nashwan, Sunday, 12 April 2015 10:03 (nine years ago) link
it's pretty easy to forget about the concept ime
― courtney barnett formula (seandalai), Sunday, 12 April 2015 10:04 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's not that big a problem I enjoyed listening to this regularly for a good 9 months at least :)
― nashwan, Sunday, 12 April 2015 10:05 (nine years ago) link
I listened to the whole thing a few weeks ago on the drive back from Big Ears and it sounded amazing! everything sounds so good on this record. I get why people who are used to super-punchy dance music don't like it but I'm just delighted with it. I like parts of Discovery a lot (esp. Voyager/High Life/Veridis Quo) but some parts fall flat for me because they're so underdeveloped; I appreciate that Daft Punk made a record where all of the songs are finished. if I want to hear a French touch disco loop record I'll go listen to those old Le Knight Club releases. a new Le Knight Club record is what the people really want, right?
"Game of Love" is underrated - listen to the gorgeous rhodes, the little guitar wikkas that disappear in the second half, the harmonized humming part that sounds like sine waves & the little vocoded "breath" sounds inserted in between
― example (crüt), Sunday, 12 April 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
I listened to the whole thing a few weeks ago on the drive back from Big Ears and it sounded amazing! everything sounds so good on this record.
― example (crüt), Sunday, April 12, 2015 11:16 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm -- this album didn't fully click for me until driving to the beach
― katherine, Sunday, 12 April 2015 15:22 (nine years ago) link
I like parts of Discovery a lot (esp. Voyager/High Life/Veridis Quo) but some parts fall flat for me because they're so underdeveloped; I appreciate that Daft Punk made a record where all of the songs are finished
I can't understand this... Discovery to me feels like a perfectly formed record from start to finish. RAM sounds like a rush job of muddled half-concepts.
I wish there'd been a bit more prog on RAM. Touch is as close as it gets but it sticks out on the album as something that could have been better presented elsewhere. A DP musical with a revolving cast of guest players would have been a great idea.
― but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Sunday, 12 April 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link
― example (crüt)
This is a great description of why this song is so good.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 12 April 2015 16:25 (nine years ago) link
record is comparable to recent dangelo record for sheer sonic pleasures.
album has some ropey drumming on it - i dont care if the drummer played on thriller. hes obv been playing some dodgy stuff since 1982.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 12 April 2015 20:13 (nine years ago) link
I played most of it again today. It's still too soon to return. Refractory periods have their place.
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 12 April 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
i dont care if the drummer played on thriller. hes obv been playing some dodgy stuff since 1982.
he played on Off The Wall not Thriller and that's JR Robinson you philistine
― example (crüt), Sunday, 12 April 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
i'll concede that Omar Hakim has played on some dodgy records though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkVW-y1pbME
― example (crüt), Sunday, 12 April 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
I don't mind the drumming on this album at all, it's part of the reason I like 'Giorgio By Moroder' and 'Contact' so much!
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 21:07 (nine years ago) link
Hakim played on Dire Straits' Brothers In Arms, if I remember correctly?
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 21:10 (nine years ago) link
"Touch" intro sounds like the intro here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2Z_mR3em1U
― welltris (crüt), Thursday, 27 August 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link