Finally Rich - Chief Keef

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Is anyone else excited for this release? how do you guys rate keef atm? I'm not certain if the wikipedia page is correct but all of the tracks which are supposedly confirmed sound great to me! Young Chop is producing once again and it sounds like he is in fine form. looking forward to juicy j and chief keef collab.

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 03:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not to harsh your buzz, but this guy's affect is so flat it's a wonder he's still alive.

Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 11 November 2012 05:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha.. i find that to be part of his appeal... i found this article really good , gives an insight into the kind of world which keef lives in.. (http://www.thefader.com/2012/08/21/chief-keef-lost-boys/)
"The people around him may be trying their best, but it’s clear someone stopped raising him long before he needed to be finished being raised."

keef is one of chicagos zombie youth - to me his lack of emotional engagement is what makes his music unsettling.

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 05:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Gonna get boring fast if he turns into rapping a kit shopping.

cruel silver of hope (Eazy), Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

about shopping

cruel silver of hope (Eazy), Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess the value of that is in the eye of the beholder BUT you can't on the one hand defend keef against heavy criticism because he just raps about his life/environment and then turn around and say that he should still be rapping about that stuff even tho he got himself out

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeh.. word.. i'm curious, what do you personally think of keefs form/potential in the lead up to his big release?

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

and i suppose in that case you could still criticise him on the basis of the kind of environment he is choosing to surround himself with , and the kind of insight and relationship he has with that environment

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

hang on.. its not so much the environment hes in.. but the way he relates to and his music explores the environment

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

if that makes any sense

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 06:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

'explores' is definitely too heavy of a word for keef

hector_doepos, Sunday, 11 November 2012 07:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just want a great album. We'll take it from there.

weak willie (longneck), Sunday, 11 November 2012 08:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not to harsh your buzz, but this guy's affect is so flat it's a wonder he's still alive.

― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:09 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah getting soulja boy flashbacks over here, "love sosa" is much like "turn my swag on" where i'm like hmmm this might do something for me if an engineer had said 'ok one more take -- with feeling!'

a man d'Balmer (some dude), Sunday, 11 November 2012 12:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Turn My Swag On is so far ahead of anything Keef has done - I don't find Soulja Boy a flat performer at all, he has a crucial energy that Keef lacks

lex pretend, Sunday, 11 November 2012 12:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I find the idea that 'I Don't Like' lacks energy a strange one.

pandemic, Sunday, 11 November 2012 14:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I find the idea that Chief Keef should rap with more energy and feeling a strange one.

weak willie (longneck), Sunday, 11 November 2012 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

well i was talking specifically about "Love Sosa" not his whole oeuvre

a man d'Balmer (some dude), Sunday, 11 November 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

"turn my swag on" is probably better than anything keef has ever done, yeah

flopson, Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

but really... who's keeping score amirite?

flopson, Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

every interview w/him is all 'lol teenagers'

lag∞n, Sunday, 11 November 2012 18:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, to be fair, there's been at least one early single of his that was ok

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 12 November 2012 02:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

so yeah, this album is really good. Now I understand why Interscope stood by him.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

he's gonna be around for a bit

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, that seems certain now. And I have mixed feelings about that, but damn, if he can make an album like this at age 17, maybe he deserves to.

I get the Flockaveli comparisons to an extent, but for me the big difference is Flocka is very charismatic in his way, and he brings a fun energy. Keef is just vile dude with a bitter presence. Kind of amazing he parlayed that into such an effective album.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 18:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

he's a much better artist than anyone ever gave him credit for. very clearly not just riding on the tails of "i don't like" but slowly pushing his sound outward

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't find keef that "vile" or "bitter" at all... like, he often sounds like he's taking glee in playing the "part" of a "rapper" on his songs, a kid who grew up listening to 50 cent inhabiting that role... like there's a lot of "fun energy" that you claim waka has, evan, in keef's music for me. he sounds fucking stoked to be rapping... am i the only one who feels this way?

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

or maybe not stoked to be rapping as much as making rap songs, if that makes any sense at all...

bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I understand what you're saying. Keef is obviously engaged, and enjoying what he does—the record would be miserable if he didn't. But I don't sense the same "I'm loving every fucking minute of this" release from him that I do from Flocka. He takes a much more austere posture.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 19:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

he's gonna be around for a bit

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 14, 2012 1:23 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bottling this gem and releasing it back into the wild in december 2013 to see how it smells then

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lol

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 14 December 2012 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

ha; Al's word choices are always so vivid. Love it.

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

i usually don't mix that many metaphors tbh but i had just woken up from a nap

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's ok, they all land

Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

bottling this gem and releasing it back into the wild in december 2013 to see how it smells then

― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 2:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i assume you'll be catching on right around then

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

where is this sudden meme about waka being joyous and charismatic coming from

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

like you guys are thinking of his PETA ads and not his actual musical output

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

his personality is that way & his music has trended that way at times since flockaveli but flockaveli is not that way at all

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

look at waka in the 'live by the gun' video & tell me hes not as or more detached & dead-eyed than keef has ever been

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha brutal zing j0rd

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

deej you know you cherrypicked one waka video out of 200 others where he's pulling grinning and pulling faces all over the place

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol pulling grinning sorry for typo

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

deej makes an important distinction tho

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

at least as far as flockaveli goes

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

keef may take the same track as he continues to isolate himself from the streets... i mean his grimmest tracks are certainly the earliest

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

citgo is so good. it's the song soulja boy should of made.

tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

'zan with that lean' era soulja boy that is

tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

deej you know you cherrypicked one waka video out of 200 others where he's pulling grinning and pulling faces all over the place

― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 4:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which? the one that springs to mind is the one with keef, who is also grinning.

to me what is interesting about keef's style is that it is at once 'deadened' as ppl have described its ... detached-ness, but projected. Like, his voice jumps forward. I feel like for most rappers when you try to put that kind of energy in it, you lose that detached 'cool' cf pusha t in 2012

D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

all of them besides 'live by the gun' iirc? like waka was hilarious in the 'bingo' video and that was one of his first big looks.

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

well it's not like the "i don't like" or "3hunna" videos depict a sad or detached keef. it's a different conversation.

salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i'm not sure why videos were brought up to begin with just thought d-40's trying to hard w/ the waka video example

Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can we change the name of this thread to something that has hemiola in it please?

longneck, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:09 (8 months ago) Permalink

this seems clear to me, too - as I said back when the hemiola first reared its head, it sounds like Keef can't hear the beat. that means either a) he actually couldn't, or b) he could, but the vocal track in (most likely) Pro Tools got dragged a little ways one way or the other in mix

― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:00 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im willing to believe the latter is also a possibility. it doesn't sound like he can't hear the beat at all though...he's still rapping to a beat of some kind

rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

that's why i think it's misaligned, because the rhythm in his track is internally consistent but consistently off from the beat.

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:19 (8 months ago) Permalink

xp that's what I think is the case - he heard it when he tracked it. sorry if this is almost doubtless overexplaining shit you already know but when you track in Pro Tools (and I assume in any other digital protocol but PT is the standard, p much everybody uses it) whatever you're playing ends up on a track like here:

you can click and drag on anything in there and move it right or left, and producing in pro tools is basically untold hours of clicking and dragging - moving beats over, words over, deleting regions you don't like and pasting in parts you do, etc. I have no idea how producers can stand it, it's numbing to watch. but I recently had a track dragged about an inch and a half to the right accidentally, because everybody was tired, and we didn't know it had happened and when we listened to playback, it sounded like nobody could hear anybody else.

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:21 (8 months ago) Permalink

I have no idea how producers can stand it, it's numbing to watch

i would hate to do it for music that's supposed to sound live and seamless and untouched by the cold digital hands, but it's fun when it's the creative method you're using to make the music happen (ie rap beats or electronic music).

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

step up in Deej's town
you know everything is
he-mi-ola
he-mi-ola
he-mi-ola

My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:36 (8 months ago) Permalink

the 'engineer messed up' theory makes no sense to me because there's songs all over Keef's major label album where the vocals wobble in the vicinity of the beat in the exact same way, it seems consistent with performances throughout his career

deez the season (some dude), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

he's still rapping to a beat of some kind

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:10 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post

The beat of his own drummer, man

tuostprophets (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

y'all are hemiolaphiliacs

Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

i swear i'll still be reading this conversation in 5 years' time

lex pretend, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

he should do a track with that dude from das racist, heemsiola

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:47 (8 months ago) Permalink

the 'engineer messed up' theory makes no sense to me because there's songs all over Keef's major label album where the vocals wobble in the vicinity of the beat in the exact same way, it seems consistent with performances throughout his career

― deez the season (some dude), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 10:39 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

are you trolling or

rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 16:51 (8 months ago) Permalink

nah -- that verse sounds like a lot of his verses to me. the fact that you seem to advocate that the verse is either deliberately rhythmically complex OR the result of an engineering accident as if those 2 theories are in any way compatible seems more like trolling to me.

deez the season (some dude), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

you seem to be the only one who doesn't hear a difference between that particular song and his others. is the difference between his flow being slightly off the beat and the actual placement of his words w/in each measure not a concept you're grasping or

rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:16 (8 months ago) Permalink

ok, so if i'm wrong and that verse is unique and glaring -- which theory do you support? is it him doing rhythmic backflips or a lousy engineer? it can't be both.

deez the season (some dude), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:21 (8 months ago) Permalink

he is soooo nice lol i herd his gang killed lil jojo rotf

Phoebe (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

most sweetest post-oj da juice can't-have-my-cocaine weed music

Phoebe (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:28 (8 months ago) Permalink

chicago is a seriously mixed crows

Phoebe (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

we went over that when it was first discussed, sd

rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

im not blaming the engineer, i think its intentional (think dont know). but i disagree, his entrances are all coming in on the same early count -- it sounds like his verse (or the waveform) is shifted to the left.

although i kind of like this too lol:

KENNY GK 2 days ago
Keef killed this. the beat is just fucked up smh
Reply ·

― D-40, Monday, December 31, 2012 2:34 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

hemiyolo

flopson, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 17:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

Maison Hemiola

longneck, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 19:20 (8 months ago) Permalink

ha this thread: a+ #teamkeef #teamhemiola

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 19:35 (8 months ago) Permalink

don't you mean #teamiola

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 19:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

#otm

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 19:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

<university of chicago gamelan/>

dude-icrous (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 20:36 (8 months ago) Permalink

he's still rapping to a beat of some kind

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, December 3, 2013 11:10 AM (25 minutes ago)

Yeah, I don't think it's a tracking thing, it sounds like he's consistently rapping in a different tempo, rather than just ahead/behind the beat -- it is rhythmically interesting - mistake or no, intentional or unintentional

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

oh shit just remembered deej scoffing at dev hynes saying the empire state building is a g flat but sure hes cool w keef hemiola such bs wtf #unfair

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

his voice is so rich

dude-icrous (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

#gangsta

dude-icrous (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

Rap Game Don Caballero

Divvy Bikes to Watch Out For (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

Don cab are boring tho

sarahell, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 22:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

oh shit just remembered deej scoffing at dev hynes saying the empire state building is a g flat but sure hes cool w keef hemiola such bs wtf #unfair

― lag∞n, Tuesday, December 3, 2013 4:31 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see if keef tried to play me by saying "totes going for a hemiola there" i would also scoff

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 00:18 (8 months ago) Permalink

what only you are allowed to declare hemiola ?!!

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 00:26 (8 months ago) Permalink

music critics i swear man they got it twisted

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 December 2013 00:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

#humer

dude-icrous (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 00:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

#nylmatic

dude-icrous (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 00:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

#3Hunniola

Divvy Bikes to Watch Out For (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 00:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I did a search for Keef's "Almighty SO" album and found nothing. Anyway I can't stop listening to it.

C.A. Hall (C.A.H.OOTS), Saturday, 25 January 2014 02:15 (7 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Monday, 3 March 2014 18:42 (5 months ago) Permalink

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 3 March 2014 18:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

Best Buy bonus track from this album was fire:

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 3 March 2014 19:52 (5 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

that's so stupid

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:16 (4 months ago) Permalink

viral fail

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:16 (4 months ago) Permalink

def thought that was gonna be a stitches post

le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:35 (4 months ago) Permalink

just found out this guy is facebook friends with me smh

rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:14 (4 months ago) Permalink

yung lean was the white keef anyway

whatchutola khomeini (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:16 (4 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 03:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

lol'd at the "up his ass goes the pool cue" line

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 12:50 (1 month ago) Permalink


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