POSSE! YOU KEEP THE SPIRIT ALIVE! It's the 1990s ELECTRONIC ALBUMS poll results!

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Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link

been looking forward to this. putting on a club night tonight so i'll only get to check i n occasionally today

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Saturday, 27 October 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link

51.(tie) Mouse on Mars - Autoditacker (1997)
64 points, 4 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/autoditacker.jpg

http://open.spotify.com/album/4Ev3UAEmQeMotvOS6w2CO1

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link

Oops, sorry, that should read: 50. (tie). There are two albums tied for the 50th place.

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

Play Autoditacker back-to-back with Radical Connector and say that compression doens't effect electronic music.

― Scik Mouthy, 6. kesäkuuta 2007 23:48

I vouch for Vulvaland, one of the great album titles, especially considering it's an album by some German knobtwiddlers, as opposed to something with a Pedro Bell cover or some gaggle of skinny-bearded nu metal idiots. "Frosch" is one of THE slow-dawning pop pleasures of the last decade or so, at least in my book. Likewise, Autoditacker strikes me as the best balance of their receding straight-up IDM roots and their growing organic sound and pop sensibilities.

Don't sleep on Lithops, either. Jan's (I think) solo proj--less beat-oriented, it's all about making machines sing. Very nice.

― Lee G (Lee G), 24. syyskuuta 2002 21:46

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

50. (tie) Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy (Warp Records, 1997)
64 points, 4 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/hardnormaldaddy.jpeg

http://open.spotify.com/album/1CPBXIsx6Km7ZvDmvM0gYS

Hard Normal Daddy is pretty amazing

― you can expect punches, kicks and even worse (frogbs), 30. huhtikuuta 2012 16:33

yeah, hard normal daddy is still the daddy. i keep buying his new records despite the previous ones too, and also despite the fact he was quite annoying at school.

― kieron, 6. lokakuuta 2002 10:49

Squarepusher, to me, cant sound "95" or "drill n bass" or whatever. Even though he uses those classic sounds. His music tears up so much shit and has so much variety, that it actually trancends genres, years, bullshit, alltogether. Today I was listening to Hard Normal Daddy. There are times on that album that his bass playing rivals Jaco at his most frantic. You cant tell me that shit is 95.

― chiznaki, 28. joulukuuta 2001 3:00

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link

48. Carl Craig - Landcruising (Blanco y Negro, 1995)
66 points, 3 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/landcruising.jpeg

PS The guitar solos are exactly why Landcruising is great. They add the perfect touch of slightly dodgy movie soundtrack cheese.

― Ben Williams, 25. helmikuuta 2003 22:10

i really can't say enough about the incredible awesomeness of carl craig's landcruising album. a concept ablum about travel and modern life (hey, it was original then...) that is basically a 90s detroit techno take on kraftwerk. there's one dud on there but the rest is just georgeous, deep mid-tempo techno. some of the best strings ever i've heard.

― equinox, 27. syyskuuta 2004 22:51

Agreed. Just played Landcruising the other day and it has aged really well (probably those 10 years add another layer of melancholy ;) What's the one dud though? 'One Day Soon'?

― Omar (Omar), 27. syyskuuta 2004 22:59

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

47. Gas - Königsforst (Mille Plateaux, 1999)
67 points, 4 votes.

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Yesssss... I LOVE Gas--I played the second track off 'Konigsforst" with the signature low thrum moving from speaker to speaker at Night of the Living Drone, and I must say, Jess, you are WRONG about it verging on the ignorable! ;-) At "appropriate" volume, this music (to borrow an old-school Reynoldsism) evokes the womb, the feeling (not like any of us can remember it, but it's a cool comparison) of immersion in amniotic fluid. I have to seek out his other stuff-- 'Zauberberg' is on my Xmas wish list, and I love the track on 'Modulations and Transformations,' too.

― Clarke B., 13. joulukuuta 2001 3:00

The Gas records were just old laquer copies of Wagner run through a lot of reverb with a submerged kick drum. I have an old laquer of Tristan Und Isolde on RCA that is probably 60 years old or so and I played it on a regular turntable, sampled it on an MPC2000xl and processed it and I had instant Pop/Konigsforst/Zauberberg. The unique texture on the Gas records comes from the interaction between the hisses and crackles of the old laquers and the post-processing of the samples.

Once you figure out Wolfgang's methodology on those records you can crank them out in your sleep.

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), 14. lokakuuta 2003 0:38

Konigsforst, definitely. I love how parts of it are so lo-fi that they sound almost mono.

― NoTimeBeforeTime, 11. tammikuuta 2008 1:23

the last track on konigsforst always makes me think of a sunrise because it sounds like a warped/looped "william tell overture", that waking-up music they use in cartoons

― am0n, 16. tammikuuta 2008 17:37

i've been jamming to Gas' Konigsforst for the last several hours.

― your pain is probably equal (Z S), 15. marraskuuta 2011 23:58

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

'Landcruising' and the new Robert Hood album 'Motor: Nighttime World 3' make a great double feature.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link

By the way, even if you have the Nah und Fern box set, I'd still recommend acquiring the original Mille Plateaux version of Königsforst. On the Nah und Fern version of it, the penultimate track (which is the best track on Königsforst IMO, it's so deep and sacred) has been digitally compressed for some reason, it sounds much better on the original album.

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link

46. L.T.J Bukem - Logical Progression (Good Looking Records, 1996)

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i guess i shouldn't complain. i'm hoping to see that db mix even though i didn't rate it so high. or maybe logical progression vol 1 is conservative enough for an ilm poll.

― it's tricky (disco stu), 18. marraskuuta 2004 22:22

6 am, just driven a minibus through the night, very foggy dawn, bus full of sleeping kids and bits of junk on the way to holland to do a show. pulling into the gate area of the channel tunnel for the first time, the fog clears, the kids are waking up, there's a bank of what seems like 100 gates lined up, all with powerful strobe lights (for no apparent reason) flashing randomly at us, and the tune that starts the tape: pfm and conrad: western, off of logical progression 1. its the first time that these kids have ever heard any real drum and bass, and the effect was significant, to say the least.

― dbini, 5. syyskuuta 2002 19:50

this is probably much softer than the reality of digital's dub+bass style, but now i am imagining a strand of dnb built on the foundation of that magical two minutes of the original "logical progression" mix by LTJ bukem ... the last breaks of seba + lotek's "so long" are echoed into this single huge cosmic pulse, sounds like a thunderclap or something, except huge and soft and pillowy, like a giant falling into a cloudbank, and then photek's "rings around saturn" starts to come in, just that one super-delicate jazz breakbeat, but mastered so hazy and layered so thick that it just sizzles, and with the birdcall in the background the breaks sound like the beginning of the monsoon.

― vahid (vahid), 20. heinäkuuta 2005 9:20

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link

BOOM, it's here.

How to Repress Well (Mr Andy M), Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:45 (eleven years ago) link

Feel like doing a 'TOO LOW' for Landcruising but at least it beat Squarepusher.
Been a long time since I listened to Logical Progression but I remember it having some sweet stuff on it.

How to Repress Well (Mr Andy M), Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry, that one got:

68 points, 3 votes.

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:47 (eleven years ago) link

Logical Progression, that is.

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link

glad i voted for albums now or 'landcruising' woukd've been even more shafted. would still like to know what the one dud is. i've come round to feeling that 'home entertainment' is prob my favourite carl craig track.

second only to popcorn (or something), Saturday, 27 October 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

<3 hard normal daddy. the 'pusher sadly didn't quite top it.. nearly though/

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Saturday, 27 October 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link

45. The Future Sound of London - Dead Cities (Virgin, 1996)
69 points, 4 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/deadcities.jpeg

http://open.spotify.com/album/2xHvAxrgMfKrYIicQVT9ay

I think the last time I actually bought an album based solely on the cover with little to no knowledge of what the music would actually be, it was FSOL's Dead Cities back in 1996. Got it on LP, even (I forget if it was double or triple -- I don't have it anymore, stoopid me).

― Nate Patrin, 23. kesäkuuta 2002 3:00

I thought DEAD CITIES was plenty dark & disturbing. Even straight! Then I dosed and it REALLY wigged me but good. I don't play it much (so much more water under the bridge), but stuff like that is best if taken in small but meaningful lumps anyway. cf. Tear Garden's 1st 2 LPs.

― Matt Riedl (veal), 25. kesäkuuta 2002 3:00

God damn but I love me some Dead Cities. If they'd've just gotten day jobs after that, I'd think they were one of the best bands EVAH

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), 30. toukokuuta 2003 4:04

Dead Cities is that point in the night where the stoned wibbling is replaced by earnest discussion of MKULTRA and the number 23.

― Get wolves (DL), 26. heinäkuuta 2012 13:24

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link

44. The Sabres of Paradise - Haunted Dancehall (Warp Records, 1994)
70 points, 3 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/haunteddancehall.jpeg

http://open.spotify.com/album/1fjxW1nWJZbZhni4slSy38

i quite like how Haunted Dancehall is sequenced, starts off nightimeish and seems to get later and spookier as it goes on. also, as time, goes on it goes from being a really good album into a superb album

― gareth, 16. elokuuta 2001 3:00

haunted dancehall seconded - the most underrated stoner album of all time.

― Louis Giomblechett and his kerayzy friends (dog latin), 21. tammikuuta 2006 6:17

also why no more love for the haunted dancehall? pure mashup area stonehead tunes! we love, love.

― the next grozart, 25. toukokuuta 2007 6:31

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link

43. Basic Channel - BCD (Basic Channel, 1995)

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/bcd.jpeg

http://open.spotify.com/album/7uuTGQg4ZPVDHi6k6jk0Ig

Basic Channel - BCD

Not IDM but techno, and absolutely essential.

― Stephen Crane, 13. huhtikuuta 2005 19:26

For me the realisation probably struck when I got into Basic Channel, which is not that long ago. On the other hand there's a lot of music with a scarcity in the tunes department that don't really register as such. Much of jungle is basically breakbeats and bass tones, but the sense of narrative development the deployment of the beats imbues can disguise the lack of a tune. In that sense there's heaps I was already listening to but wasn't aware of in that sense - yes, including acid house.

― Tim, 30. heinäkuuta 2001 3:00

On a desert island, my feeling is that vocals would eventually begin to grate. Basic Channel family, maybe. As a reprieve from nature yet not totally incongruent.

― Tracer Hand, 9. elokuuta 2001 3:00

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

71 points, 3 votes.

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

Dead Cities is that point in the night where the stoned wibbling is replaced by earnest discussion of MKULTRA and the number 23.
Never heard the album but this kind of makes me want to check it out!
Plenty of great supporting quotes already.

How to Repress Well (Mr Andy M), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

Logical Progression is pretty great but like all Good Looking stuff, it can err on the lightweight side. Think I prefer his Mixmag Live which has some edgier tunes and choppier mixing.

millmeister, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

Oooh this is exciting, even though I (incredibly) didn't even get to vote for albums :(

(lol PhD)

formerly EDB (ed.b), Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

Excellent work with the thread name.

calumerio, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

42. The KLF - The White Room (KLF Communications, 1991)
72 points, 4 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/thewhiteroom.jpeg

They were funny and subversive, they made a joyous cultureclash single with Tammy Wynette, a wonderful album in The White Room, and the best chillout album ever, Chill Out. Add the hilarious early sampling extravaganzas and the dumb gesture of burning £1m, and how can you not adore them?

Anyone remember Bill Drummond's great pre-JAMMs reply number, Julian Cope Is Dead?

― Martin Skidmore, 23. helmikuuta 2002 3:00

I just like their *White Room* CD; no interest in their more ambient stuff (or their corny concepts, or their book, though thanks...)

― xhuxk, 30. marraskuuta 2005 17:39

"A ten year old into The KLF? I now believe in God."

hey man, "3am eternal" followed by the tammy wynette version of "justified and ancient", it was pop dance bliss. all those early 90's dance jams were my shit.

― pipecock, 3. lokakuuta 2007 7:48

it was definitely very different even to other pop dance acts around at the time (as i remember, snap, c+c music factory, etc were all pretty big in 90-91...).

-- pipecock, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 14:49 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

the beats weren't that different tho, most of the time. and they had a rapper + exciting sounds (sirens or whatever) that should've appealed to kids easily. i loved the Timelords record and was 10 when it hit #1. i think their enthusiasm for big videos, TOTP, crazy costumes and filling the stage with a variety of different characters also really boosted their appeal to us in the 'i wanna be like them' sense.

despite this i never did buy The White Room - probably because i'd read it didn't feature the single mixes. It would've been my 3rd or 4th album if i had bothered tho.

― blueski, 3. lokakuuta 2007 18:00

Tuomas, Saturday, 27 October 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

is there seriously going to be Scooter on here?? please say yes

frogbs, Saturday, 27 October 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

oh i missed this starting

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 October 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

glad to see Autoditacker made it - i felt like i would be the only person voting for them for some resaon!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

I voted for it.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

they were getting zero love on the noms thread until i poked in, is what made me think that.
i was surprised that squarepusher hadn't been mentioned much also, by the time i nominated albums/tracks.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 27 October 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

Some albums that I didn't think were gonna rate high on this poll did do surprisingly well. For example, I think there's gonna be some controversy once we get to #3.

Tuomas, Sunday, 28 October 2012 07:50 (eleven years ago) link

Anyway...

Tuomas, Sunday, 28 October 2012 08:00 (eleven years ago) link

41. Susumu Yokota - Sakura (Skintone, 1999)
75 points, 3 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/sakura.jpeg

http://open.spotify.com/album/6daHGcQra17Pvgnp5gEzJm

We're playing Sakura by Susumu Yokota in the office this morning, and whilst Billy & I both love it, Julie (who's 15 years or so older than us and an punk/Velvets/Hendrix/Joni Mitchell/Janis Joplin fan) hates it and can't see the attraction in it at all. She says "computers and music don't go together- 'electronic music' is an oxymoron to me". She says she cannot hear any melody in it nor understand why anyone else would enjoy it.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), 24. heinäkuuta 2003 13:00

sakura > all albums ever, except maybe 4 or 5 really great ones.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), 13. huhtikuuta 2004 1:45

susumu yokota - sakura

this record is so amazing! when i got it, i must've listened to it 20 times in a row. i did an ilm search on it not too long ago, but didn't find anything. the aural equivalent of a wong kar wai film.

― prada robot (disco stu), 13. huhtikuuta 2005 6:06

Tuomas, Sunday, 28 October 2012 08:06 (eleven years ago) link

Tuomas, in your honour I just bought Autoditacker (which, up until 15 minutes ago I thought was called Audiotacker), despite my great dislike of Iahora Tahiti

formerly EDB (ed.b), Sunday, 28 October 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link

Truth was spoken on 13. huhtikuuta 2004 at 1:45.

calumerio, Sunday, 28 October 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

I, on my half, just ended up buying Sakura. I've liked Susumu Yokota's dancier 90s stuff, but never really gone deeper to his more ambient stuff, even though I remember hearing people play those albums in the 00s. But checking Sakura out on Spotify, it does still sound quite lovely.

EDB, I've never been a big fan of Iaora Tahiti either, but Autoditacker is my favourite MoM album. Compared to IT, it's less bleepy and faux-naive, and has a more detailed and deep sound. IMO Autoditacker is the record where they really found their own voice.

Tuomas, Sunday, 28 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

"even though I remember hearing people play those albums a lot in the 00s"

I don't know why, but for some reason Yokota's albums seemed to be really popular back then among artier types, who otherwise didn't listen to much electronic music (and certainly not to Yokota's earlier techno and house records). It's funny how things like that can happen; after a couple years he stopped being trendy again, and I've never heard any of my friends play his records ever since.

Tuomas, Sunday, 28 October 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah he definitely receded in popularity didn't he, I think quite a few of those millennial ambient (also clicks & cuts / post-dub-techno) types found their level of exposure plummeting sharply as the 00s shifted back towards a dancefloor focus.

Tim F, Sunday, 28 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

Funny enough, I bought Clicks and Cuts along with Autoditacker today.

Xpost: yes, it was on the strength of your explanation (elsewhere on ILM) of Autoditacker's superiority that I'm giving MoM another try.

formerly EDB (ed.b), Sunday, 28 October 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

40. Plaid - Rest Proof Clockwork (Warp Records, 1999)
76 points, 3 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/restproofclockwork.jpg

Most iambic title: Rest Proof Clockwork.

― Lee, 28. maaliskuuta 2002 3:00

Rest Proof Clockwork is one of the most beautiful albums evah. Beats BoC / Autechre etc. hands down.

― phil, 27. toukokuuta 2002 3:00

one thing about black dog is that they're actually quite "functional" - even plaid's most "out there" compositions (around the time of "rest proof clockwork" and the "trainer" set) are built around straightforward electro/hiphop beats. there's not much to rhythmically differentiate "bytes"-era black dog and something like, dunno, jaydee's "plastic dreams" - it's all about stuff like sound palette and those microtonal drones + harmonizings between the drums and synths and so on that gives it the alien feeling.

― vahid (vahid), 23. maaliskuuta 2006 1:13

Tuomas, Monday, 29 October 2012 07:46 (eleven years ago) link

I don't have Spotify available at the moment, but if anyone else wants to post the Spotify link to that album, that'd be nice.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 October 2012 07:47 (eleven years ago) link

39. The Black Dog - Spanners (Warp Records, 1995)
81 points, 5 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/spanners.jpg

i still listen to spanners and bytes often and still love them both. especially spanners.

― jed (jed_e_3), 8. joulukuuta 2003 4:40

Was listening to Spanners this morning. It's a curiously underrated album, I think, or maybe just not talked about as much as I would expect given all the early-IDM love that everyone but ILM has in spades. So full of ideas! Tracks veer from rickety detroit techno to acid house to tribal house to trip hop to etc. etc. etc. I also love the way they really think about the interplay between the off-kilter melodies and the off-kilter rhythms; reminds me a bit of current dancehall actually (think the French Vanilla riddim for example).

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), 11. kesäkuuta 2004 4:28

I find Spanners overlong to be brutally honest.

It's like they knew they were going to split so filled the CD with everything they had. It's the only one that drags a bit for me. I could happily lose a couple of the tracks near the end of the disc.

― fandango (fandango), 15. lokakuuta 2005 5:23

Hmm, I LOVE Spanners. "Psil-Cosyin" is sometimes my favourite Black Dog track. So kaleidoscopic.

What don't you like, mehlt? Is it the allusions to Orb/Ultramarine-style "atmosphere" ("Chase The Manhattan" etc.)?

The early stuff is awesome too obv, but for me the whole trajectory up to Spanners feels like the trio learning how to push and push and push at the wiredness of their grooves. I guess a counter-argument is that Spanners introduces stuff that sounds like a lot "straighter" and rather like a lot of the other IDM from the era (and Plaid Mk II continued to push that more syncretist sound), but I think they get the balance right on that album - a whole disc of "Psil-Cosyin"-style tracks would be exhausting...

― Tim F, 18. lokakuuta 2008 7:36

Tuomas, Monday, 29 October 2012 08:20 (eleven years ago) link

I've always had a very ambivalent opinion of that album, and of The Black Dog/Plaid in general. On the one hand, TBD came up with some of the most idiosyncratic and attractive sounds of that era, but on the other hand they constantly undermined the sheer beauty those sounds had with the alienating (see Vahid's post in the Plaid comments above) textural and rhythmic U-turns they favoured. Take "Psil-Cosyin", for example: it starts with a really gorgeous synth riff, one you could build a whole tune around... And then, after less than a minute, the riff is gone, and the tune descends to some boring, serpentine faux-exotic percussion jam. After several minutes, the beautiful riff makes one more tantalizing entry, only to disappear again after 20 seconds or so, never returning again. It feels like they had a really good idea for a tune, but didn't trust that one idea to carry the tune, so they needed to add a kazillion more things to it.

I think that, in a nutshell, was the biggest problem with so many of the 90s IDM musicians: they took the prog rock idea that "more is better", that "intelligent" music needed to be complex, that every tune needed more riffs! more textures! more rhythmic changes! and as a result the individual good things they might've had has were buried under this barrage of sound.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 October 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

I think that's why Black Dog are so great - there's so much detail in the music, I'm always discovering new textures / subtleties. Spanners is a wicked album, think it made my top 10 (along with Bytes). I love the way Psil-Cosyin develops over 10 minutes - absolutely massive tune.

millmeister, Monday, 29 October 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

38. The Orb - U.F.Orb (Big Life, 1992)
83 points, 4 votes, 1 first place vote.

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The splintering of dance music meant that not only were there separate dancefloor stories to tell, but that there were different comedown stories to tell - the fast music that U.F.Orb was an alternative to ceased to be a monolith after '92, and maybe stay-at-home dance music followed suit.

Also maybe trip-hop played a big role here - at least in being the first music that an enormous amount of dance fans embraced in a big way that was totally outside the scene. This is what has led to "chill-out" becoming so vague and amorphous that both full-on house tracks and rock bands get a look-in; in fact the 'Back To Mine' and 'Another Late Night' franchises seem to now be in competition to be the least dance-related and the least relaxed.

Oddly, Orb-style ambient-dub is one stripe of chill-out music that might actually sound quite weird being played in a cafe/bar.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), 10. lokakuuta 2002 15:52

i want to stick up for The Orb a bit - U.F.Orb is DEFINITELY superior to In Sides, Snivilisation and any other Orbital album, as much as i love the Hartnolls as much as the next guy. i havent lived with Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld much and maybe its a better album than U.F.Orb but i dunno - U.F.Orb and In Sides are not actually that different in terms of structure - i see similarities in some ways. In Sides, like a lot of Boards Of Canada, as beautiful and enchanting as it is, just ends up creeping me out most of the time (Out There Somewhere and Adnans both seem to end on quite 'downer' moods to my ears) whereas UFOrb is just dubbed up blissed out brilliance

― stevem (blueski), 4. huhtikuuta 2003 12:12

i can't remember if i voted for in this, but u.f.orb ends with the sound of an elephant shitting which has to count for something.

― tricky, 27. joulukuuta 2007 3:32

The Orb - U.F.Orb is pretty straightforward if you see Towers of Dub as either an intermission or that the aliens smoke you out w/ Venusian Ganja.

― shugazi (herb albert), 4. kesäkuuta 2010 18:26

Tuomas, Monday, 29 October 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link

first two Orb albums are timeless

Polly Toynbee OK (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 October 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

no, that was by goldie

Mountain Excitement (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 29 October 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

lol

comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 29 October 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link

the orb is hippy music for hippies.

itt: 'splaining men (ledge), Monday, 29 October 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link

Bringing back the memories that cover, used to listen to that tape in the car. Photoshop swirl effect, soon to be reappropriated no doubt.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 5 November 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

But I was… there.

I didn't really enjoy the whole set that much, but that track was definitely a highlight.

― Chewshabadoo

According to the comments someone was shot during Bjork's performance the night before. Weird vibes all round?

millmeister, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

Nah, not really. It was pre-mobile-phone for anyone other than a small minority (In fact the last time I went in 2001 it was still almost impossible to get a text message through to anyone else) so you only heard the odd rumour, and even then there were at least 100,000 people there, maybe more because it was so easy to sneak in. And in a town or city that big, someone dying is a tragedy for sure, but it's not something you think affects you. Add in to that everyone in general at Glastonbury then was friendly and having a great time, vibes are great.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

For me, there were much better dance music experiences wandering around finding the people who had set up their own soundsystems, or even the market stalls in general playing tapes or much more interesting music with random people just deciding they were liking what they were hearing and dancing areas starting up organically.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link

Damn, I used to love that festival. Can't ever imagine going back, there's no way with all the tickets being sold a year in advance that it can be anywhere near as good a spontaneous experience.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

Nice one - jealous of anyone who made it in the early to mid-90's.

millmeister, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

I was a bit spoilt to be honest, my first festival experience ever was Glastonbury '92 as a 16 year old. I didn't find a festival experience which matched it iuntil going to my first Freerotation a few years back which is really just a very large house party with a few hundred people. I can't ever imagine being somewhere with tens of thousands of people just loving life. Rose-tinted, perhaps, but I'd like to know if there's something as good on such a large scale happening now. Glastonbury even by about '97 was already full of knob'eads shouting "bollocks".

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link

I've done Labyrinth in Japan a few times. Very well curated, intimate, great location in the mountains and although the music has changed over the years it still retains some of its 'trance party' roots. Not comparable to any of the big festivals. Luckily.

millmeister, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link

Jealous of that, been wanting to go for 5 years, but not happened yet.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLaBPq-Krlk

This is the mix that live version was based on. The build in the second half is just amazing, destroys the album track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irGobeC0Qkg

And here's the glorious live version that was included on a bonus disc with some editions of In Sides. Everything from 5:20 onward is the best thing ever.

Plasmon, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 05:15 (eleven years ago) link

IIRC the V96 version of Impact was on the 3 CD-single release of a live version of Satan:
http://www.discogs.com/Orbital-Satan-Live/release/874

I still have all 3 CDs kicking around somehwhere, in combination they form a fantastic live album.

Neil S, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 09:53 (eleven years ago) link

Damn that could be at least ten minutes longer.

Anyone know where (if anywhere) the "cry for survival" thing is lifted from?

itt: 'splaining men (ledge), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link

Righto, we're ready for the Tracks Results, yeah?

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 11:13 (eleven years ago) link

IIRC the V96 version of Impact was on the 3 CD-single release of a live version of Satan:

Yeah, I had this - first Orbital CD I ever bought, felt slightly let down by the astudio version of 'Impact' when I got around to buying the brown album.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ my experience too

Tim F, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

IMO every version of "Impact" is amazing

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i had those three cds, and yeah they were my first orbital. wish i still had them. i love it when you hear that one jock-y guy in the crowd going "BRING ON THE FUCKIN' BON JOVI!"

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link

the recording of "Lush 3" on the 2nd "Satan Live" disc was recorded at the first Orbital concert I saw ^_^

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link

xp dog latin, I'll try and dig them out then webmail you with a link. Will post here again if successful, in case anyone else is interested.

Neil S, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

Obviously I now want to redo my tracks ballot with Impact live. What a colossal tune.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks Neil!

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link

i heard this album was recorded in less time than it lasts.

― jed_ (jed), 26. elokuuta 2006 3:51

this is one of my new favorite quotes

Anime Mann (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

I was lucky enough to go to every Glastonbury from 1990 to 97 (think there were two gap years in that time).

Orbital's 1994 appearance put dance music firmly on the Glastonbury map, so much so that the Dance tent made its debut the year after.

Was also fortunate to catch Underworld's Experimental Sound Field in 92 which was mind blowing to someone just getting into dance music (and had no idea who Underworld were at the time).

groovypanda, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

And pre mobiles meant it was a different world. Remember hearing rumours of a shooting but not finding out someone had died until we got home.

No mobiles also meant one year we didn't meet up with some mates until the Saturday night as they'd missed the pre-arranged meet on the Thursday. It was only pure coincidence we bumped into them 2 days later.

But as mentioned above, the best moments were stumbling across some stall with a DJ pumping out Union Jack's 'Two Full Moons...' and a large crowd of people all dancing and hugging each other right next to it.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

soooooooo, tuomas to thread?

second only to popcorn (or something), Friday, 9 November 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

Is there a link for the Singles poll? It's all gone mysteriously quiet.

millmeister, Sunday, 11 November 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

tuomas fell asleep.

or went to the pub ..

and who could blame him.

despite not voting, i loved this poll.

(fsol would have been my top choice thereby messing up the love for orbital et al)

mark e, Sunday, 11 November 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

Is there a link for the Singles poll? It's all gone mysteriously quiet.

― millmeister, Sunday, 11 November 2012 23:01 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mark G, Monday, 12 November 2012 09:17 (eleven years ago) link

presumably Tuomas is combining real life with collating the much more extensive and copious singles ballots, and isn't promising a rollout until he's ready to deliver

good naber He help get undr control (sic), Monday, 12 November 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link

born slippy will be the winner

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 12 November 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

I missed this poll completely. I'm not sure my votes would have changed a lot, I would have had some combination of Orbital/Autechre/Orb albums in my top five. I never understood all the love for "Music Has the Right to Children" and I'm not sure I ever will.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 12 November 2012 10:17 (eleven years ago) link

Hey folks, I'm sorry about the delay of the singles poll results, but I've been really busy with real life affairs, and I've yet to count the last handful of ballots. Giving everyone 75 votes meant that counting them took more time than what I'd expected. I'll be going away for the weekend so I won't have the time to start the results rollout this week, but I'll do it next week.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 08:27 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Looking forward to the Singles poll.

du mein bestie (micarl), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 10:22 (eleven years ago) link

Results.

du mein bestie (micarl), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 10:22 (eleven years ago) link

anyone heard from tuomas? another cursed dance poll rollout it seems.

So: The Answers (or something), Sunday, 2 December 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

Hope he's OK.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 3 December 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link

His most recent post was from a couple days ago, so there's a good chance he's alright.

redress control number (_Rudipherous_), Monday, 3 December 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, was wondering about this.

MikoMcha, Monday, 3 December 2012 08:03 (eleven years ago) link

rolling out polls can't be very easy, hence why i tend to avoid doing em.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 3 December 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link

just put the ltj bukem on, no idea how many years it is since i listened to it. crazy nostalgia.

still stands up too!

KitevsPill, Monday, 10 December 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link

ok first half of first CD still stands

KitevsPill, Monday, 10 December 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link

My hopes when up for the tracks results when I saw this thread. What are the chances Moka could take over again? No need for lifty graphics, just the results would be nice.

du mein bestie (micarl), Monday, 10 December 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link

*went

du mein bestie (micarl), Monday, 10 December 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link

Hi guys, I'm alright, and I'm terribly sorry for this thing being delayed so much due to other stuff in my life. I've only got a couple more ballots to count, so I promise the results will start rolling tomorrow, if not today already.

Tuomas, Monday, 10 December 2012 07:25 (eleven years ago) link

Awesome tuomas

Tim F, Monday, 10 December 2012 07:43 (eleven years ago) link

thx tuomas!

just sayin, Monday, 10 December 2012 09:44 (eleven years ago) link

don't get stressed about it Tuomas, ppl will be happy when it rolls out, live yr life

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Monday, 10 December 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link

Hooray!

formerly EDB (ed.b), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

Also realized in researching that a LOT of good records came out in 2000.

Clarke could you whip up a list if that's ok? :)

Late on this but yes let me be the last in the queue to thank you all for the Burger/Ink alb. Also enjoying Gas (which I was aware of and never got round to it at the time), and will PorterRicks a go later.

A couple on the d n'b end of things..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link


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