1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

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^^^

c'mon man, this is the most action this poll has seen in two weeks!

Hellhouse, Sunday, 28 October 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link

and wtf, the very definition of internet bulletin board poll involves inane hair-splitting and ridiculous arguments.

Hellhouse, Sunday, 28 October 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

ah, i see.
IMO the qualification criteria were wildly elastic and inconsistent, but it wasn't ever my poll, so fair do's.
back in the seventies rock was rock. reich was fringe academic classical. at that time very different spheres / audiences. rhythm pre-dates minimalism.
BTW i nearly nommed algarnas tradgard, but it didn't get over my own rock threshold despite guitars & drums.

iglu ferrignu, Sunday, 28 October 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

Albini built a goddamn cottage industry from this robo-pound impulse
urgh i was sick in my mouth there for a second

iglu ferrignu, Sunday, 28 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

IMO the qualification criteria were wildly elastic and inconsistent, but it wasn't ever my poll, so fair do's.
back in the seventies rock was rock. reich was fringe academic classical. at that time very different spheres / audiences. rhythm pre-dates minimalism.

tbf, no one could ever find any cluster of criteria that would satisfy everyone. I think the poll has been fairly consistent given the task at hand, but there have been times when my own picks were booted, so naturally I have gripes. really, my point here is more to boost Reich in the context of 70s psych than tear down the poll. in terms of "rock was rock", we ran into the same issue w/the 80s poll where REM were v. early on in their career lumped in by association w/punk, but in retrospect seem v. twee and not at all punk rock.

urgh i was sick in my mouth there for a second

ha! it does have a distinctly stomach-churning quality, for a variety of reasons.

Hellhouse, Sunday, 28 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah - nowt against AG or the poll. genres only exist by distinction & no two people distinguish the same so, there's always going to be friction. i'm still peeved that i didn't get my cecil taylors through, but it doesn't really matter.
the very thought of assigning any value to anything steve albini has ever done makes me queasy, though.

iglu ferrignu, Sunday, 28 October 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link

but he's #!

IMP of the perverse (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 29 October 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, I think I'd sooner include Steve Reich than Cecil Taylor (whom I also like plenty).

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 29 October 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

Hm, Black Oak Arkansas are actually sounding pretty good.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 29 October 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link

BOA sound great! Very underrated band, IMO.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

Have you guys been checking out Blue Mountain Eagle!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Otc_okvDfzU/TOn18hjdy1I/AAAAAAAAATE/nbCkLCjtA48/s1600/bluemountaineagle01jpg.jpg
Searing Heavy Heavy Psych with a hint of southern rawk , it's got melodies too!! Check out Feel Like a Bandit, Loveless Lives, and Trivial Sum.

JacobSanders, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

checking it out now!!

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

also been going through things I kinda know about but not really... This has stood out as an easy ballot choice for me:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/519dR4rjVVL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

This is one "supergroup" that deserves the designation!

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

ok I finally finished my albums ballot... time to move on to tracks!

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link

My (late as usual) verdict on Satori - good, but not quite as good as Yeti.

Hard Normal Showaddywaddy (Mr Andy M), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

One thing I've discovered, 70s Boomtown Rats >>>> 80s Boomtown Rats.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link

Hoping that plenty of you will be joining me in giving a vote to the Runaways' self-titled album as one of the ultimate good-times albums. Teenpop-loving old men of ILM, time to do your duty. ;)

Hard Normal Showaddywaddy (Mr Andy M), Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:22 (eleven years ago) link

hey guys im gonna extend voting til basically after the EOY polls. It gives everyone more time to check out albums before voting. Dont worry its not cancelled it will resume january or feb at the latest when the big eoy poll is done. Anyone who voted; your ballot is safe. Anyone can still vote in the meantime and of course you can resend ballots later too if you wish to change.

Feel free to keep discussing albums here as i intend to do that.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, that sounds good. Made any good new discoveries?

Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 3 November 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link

Not as yet, but I will do hopefully as I have given us all time to do exactly that! Also afaik the tracks poll is going ahead so everyone can concentrate on it and worry about albums later. Its a lot of listening.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 3 November 2012 11:00 (eleven years ago) link

Oh God AG thank you!

Agreeable Goal-reacher (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 3 November 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Really liked Area - Crac! Ironically, I wasn't checking out that many tracks at all since I was trying to catch up on albums.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 November 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

Campaigning for albums should still continue as it gives everyone time to check out albums. And if you want to vote go ahead! pollwill still happen dont worry.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 5 November 2012 04:51 (eleven years ago) link

OK in the spirit of keeping conversation going -
I'm still working my way through the albums that are sort of cult favorites on here & elsewhere but that I'd not heard previously. Yesterday I gave Sir Lord Baltimore - Kingdom Come a listen. First thoughts - love the guitar sound on it, not so mad about some of the actual songs and the singing style. That guitar sound though - scorching!

Hard Normal Showaddywaddy (Mr Andy M), Monday, 5 November 2012 08:02 (eleven years ago) link

Also appreciate the general manic atmosphere that the album has.

Hard Normal Showaddywaddy (Mr Andy M), Monday, 5 November 2012 08:02 (eleven years ago) link

There's still some doubles on spreadsheet (Ace Frehley s/t and Ace Frehley - Ace Frehely, I'm drinking cold gin with you) ... Should I be concerned? Filling out ballot today/tonight and gettin' to ya.

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 5 November 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

ok will sort it. Keep your ballots coming they will be safe til they get counted.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 5 November 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

Ok, but delaying up to 3 months is quite a long time! From what I've seen, this will lose momentum/energy within a few weeks. Why not set the deadline for mid-December and roll it out then? EOY doesn't roll out until later in January at the latest, so it wouldn't interfere.

I'm continuing to check out stuff from the list, but nothing from the past few weeks so far that's going to impact my top 100. For example, I'm glad I was reminded to check out Beck, Bogert & Appice. It's cool to hear what happened when they finally together post-Cactus. Their musicianship is tip-top, but as much as I like it and Cactus, the songs are not quite up to the standards of anything in the top 100.

However, if your schedule simply got too busy to do this before next year, then by all means do what you gotta do. But I don't think the rest of us need more than another 30-40 days!

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 5 November 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

*later in January at the EARLIEST

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 5 November 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

Does this mean nominations open up again? Can't believe no 'Look At Yourself' by Uriah Heep (and many others, actually)...

Perhaps a clean up of 'The' and no 'The' for bands in the spreadsheet layout?

BlackIronPrison, Monday, 5 November 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

I'll have a look and see if i can edit it if not i'll ask seandalai

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link

that's for removing "the" btw. Wont be reopening nominations

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link

maybe a mod could change the title to voting still open but doesnt close til feb 2013?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 8 November 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

That would be nice! Also, maybe less TEXT IN CAPS? It makes it very visible, but also harder to read, IMO.

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah it's pretty quiet. I still support just doing it in December, but up to AG.

http://lisathatcher.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ns-1.jpg%3Fw%3D594%26h%3D509

Night Sun - Mournin' (Zebra/Second Battle, 1972)
Among previously overlooked cult albums by Jerusalem, Lucifer's Friend, Bang, Blues Creation and Blackwater Park, Night Sun's Mournin' stands out in the pack as an exceptional piece of German proto-metal with elements of spacy, jazzy prog, screamy Ian Gillian style vocals, and even some moments of doomy heaviness surpassed at the time only by Sabbath. Though it was produced by Conny Plank at windrose in Hamburg, Mournin' was not celebrated along with the likes of Plank-produced Kraftwerk, Faust and Ash Ra Tempel mainly because its proggy proto-metal was simply not fashionable, at least until recently. Many of the members have a background in 60s jazz band Take Five, and it shows in their chops. The keyboard-heavy grooves still have that satisfyingly lumbering stomp, but they can spin on a dime when they need to, like on the scorching "Nightmare." The instrumental "Got A Bone Of My Own," "Plastic Shotgun" and "Crazy Woman" are just as impressive and compare well against the best that Uriah Heep and Atomic Rooster have to offer from all their albums.

Night Sun is back in stock at Aquarius records and also available at Reckless Records in Chicago.

Full album: http://youtu.be/Iy6GbLoSxBg

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 12 November 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

So I can still vote in this? Cool. Deadline again?

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 15 November 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

february/march?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 15 November 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

Sheeit. I just noticed there is no Kevin Coyne on here. Any chance for late nominations seeing as there is more time?

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 15 November 2012 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

Decided to finally take the plunge with Hawkwind - after one listen through Space Ritual I can already see why some people get so heavily into these guys.

Ain't Too Proud To Neg (Mr Andy M), Monday, 19 November 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Whatever happened to this poll? Is it still going to happen?

Non-Stop Erotic Calculus (bmus), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

Oh yeah! Is it? I sent in an albums ballot ages ago but still haven't finished my tracks one. This still gonna happen?

Frobisher the (Viceroy), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

maybe a mod could change the title to voting still open but doesnt close til feb 2013?

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:37 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Delayed to create more room for the EOY poll.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

xp

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

is it too late to submit a ballot?

Z S, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

xp I think it's going to happen some time after the main EOY poll finishes (btw: please vote in the EOY poll!). In the meantime, you can still submit ballots.

Three days left to vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

i was kinda done with polls but what with not doing metal poll anymore i guess im more up for finishing this one if blount is too

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

voting can still take place btw. Not sure of end date yet but get listening/voting etc

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

oh and campaigning too.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

can a mod please remove the " Closes Nov 8th 11.59 PM UK Time" part please as it is probably stopping people from opening the thread and they wont realise its restarting.

There will be at least one month before voting closes .

End date 8th March ok with everybody or would you prefer longer? (everything depends on seandalai's availability)

All cast votes are safe but you can re-vote if you have changed your mind.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

No Talking Heads in this?

big firework, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link


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