no thread for this psychedelic funk/rock masterpiece yet? i'm enjoying it...
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2012 11:15 (8 months ago) Permalink
It's just Dungen mixed with a little bit of kraut, isn't it? I wasn't mad impressed with the bits I heard, but the backstory is pretty crazy / amusing.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 October 2012 11:16 (8 months ago) Permalink
I hear the Dungen comparison, but Dungen is all paisley and kaleidoscopes, Goat is bead curtains and carved voodoo heads.
― where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2012 11:19 (8 months ago) Permalink
There are definitely carved voodoo heads, aye.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 October 2012 11:27 (8 months ago) Permalink
Honestly, I wouldn't have thought of the Dungen comparison had you not mentioned it. Yeah, they're both anachronistic retro-psych from northern europe, but the Goat aesthetic feels more in line with things like Uncle Acid - that trippy, smokescreened, seventies exploitation vibe that somehow I'm a total sucker for.
― where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2012 11:41 (8 months ago) Permalink
I kind of liked it, although I find the whole tribal aspect very hokey in way that I don't with similar stuff like the Master Musicians of Bukkake. Not sure why that is, but there's something genuinely transporting for me with the latter, whereas Goat is more like fun party music in wacky dressing-up clothes. Maybe it's cos of the retro thing? Anyhow, best song is the last one where the theme from the opening track comes back in at the end.
― Professor Giff (NickB), Friday, 12 October 2012 11:50 (8 months ago) Permalink
See for me... if you get rid of the heavy guitars it's actually almost a post-punk vibe. I don't know. But it's definitely in my top 5 for the year so far. But I've probably only bought like seven new albums this year.
― I am a witch man, I am a Manwich (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 October 2012 12:05 (8 months ago) Permalink
I'm with dog latin, I see them as breaking through in a retro Uncle Acid/El Wiz type way even if I do think they've got more in common with Konono No 1 than that scene.
Seeing them next weekend though. Excited.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Friday, 12 October 2012 12:46 (8 months ago) Permalink
See for me... if you get rid of the heavy guitars it's actually almost a post-punk vibe. I don't know. But it's definitely in my top 5 for the year so far. But I've probably only bought like seven new albums this year.― I am a witch man, I am a Manwich (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 October 2012 13:05 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― I am a witch man, I am a Manwich (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 12 October 2012 13:05 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes, it definitely has a post-punk vibe somewhere in there too, especially the singer reminds me a little teensy bit of Ari Up. The fact this is such a mishmash of seventies reference points that I like (and actually works well without sounding too incongruous or kitschy), is why I'm down with it.
― where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2012 13:59 (8 months ago) Permalink
Maybe the closest post-punk touchstone is My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts; the whole 4th world music thing... ?
― where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2012 14:00 (8 months ago) Permalink
I turned another ilxor onto this today
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 15 October 2012 11:17 (8 months ago) Permalink
I listened again at the weekend. There are some really catchy grooves a gwan on this - although one track (about the 6th or 7th could really be doing with a tempo increase imo).
― where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Monday, 15 October 2012 11:35 (8 months ago) Permalink
okay i was a bit meh on this at first spin, but it's def growing on me
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 21 October 2012 04:11 (7 months ago) Permalink
Saw them last night and have to say I was unconvinced by the live show. The band are tight, but the singers... it all feels a bit like an Art School project with them being a bit too studied in Ethnic Dancing 101. The last 5 minutes once they'd left the stage was the best part of the show.
I think I'd like to see the band on their own with sampled/taped vocals but I get the feeling they're wedded to the live show as it is.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Monday, 22 October 2012 15:10 (7 months ago) Permalink
Vocals turn me off of this one.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 22 October 2012 15:15 (7 months ago) Permalink
here you go...
― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Monday, 22 October 2012 15:21 (7 months ago) Permalink
not that i was there, but watching that i can see where aldo is coming from
haha, that's pretty lol but looks kind of fun. maybe reminds me of when i saw gang gang dance.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 22 October 2012 15:51 (7 months ago) Permalink
God, if only it was all as restrained as that clip. A guy on the twitter feed reported hearing someone say "At least they weren't doing it in blackface".
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Monday, 22 October 2012 16:07 (7 months ago) Permalink
Lasted about 10 minutes of this last night, pretty dire I thought. Figures that the worst band I saw all weekend were the buzz band.
― ~ (Matt #2), Monday, 22 October 2012 16:51 (7 months ago) Permalink
It's a bit, erm, goofier than the actual record. But still looks like good fun.
― A. Begrand, Monday, 22 October 2012 17:04 (7 months ago) Permalink
I liked this record a lot. Has anyone mentioned the afrobeat connection? Most bands in the genre are just revivalists and these guys are trying to do something different.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 28 January 2013 22:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, I've seen the afrobeat connection mentioned, but not really delved into. I think it may be because people aren't sure what to make of Swedes doing afrobeat.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 28 January 2013 22:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
They were kind of snubbed here
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 28 January 2013 22:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
Would rather listen to this than Antibalas any day of the week, don't really give a shit where they're from.
― fuck off like a diamond (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 02:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
playing London soon for those interested https://detour-ldn.songkick.com/events/15408494
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 10:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
a controversial entry in this years metal poll
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 10:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
I thought I'd love this, but three listens in and I just feel annoyed and bored.
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
I liked the album a lot, but hated the live show to the point I don't even want to listen to the record again.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 16:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
I saw a live clip on youtube and the cultural tourism of the dashiki wearing face painted band members overwhelmed what little good will I had left for them. Can't imagine it in person.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
Glad I've not seen any of this footage then, sounds like it totally would ruin the album a little for me.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
This is pretty unimpressive.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
I fucking love this record. But yeah, I'm a bit iffy about seeing them play live if it's overly appropriative.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
it has its moments, but the band is really not very tight or funky when they attempt a vague afrobeat feel, and the singing is very blah.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's a psychedelic record with an afrobeat feel, though, I don't think 'tight' would really work with that. The singing is great.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
There are some great songs, "Goathead" in particular, but there aren't enough to keep me listening to the whole album.
― questino (seandalai), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
Since I first heard it I've felt a bit uncomfortable with the nonspecific "Afrobeat-ish" drumming. It struck me as veering close to a "spooky Tarzan savages ooga-booga darkest Africa" vibe. Seeing the live clip put that far too strongly in the front of my mind.
I think it's interesting that Vampire Weekend got dinged for a very specific, and very informed type of cultural tourism and this more hamfisted one got a pass.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
I've felt a bit uncomfortable with the nonspecific "Afrobeat-ish" drumming. It struck me as veering close to a "spooky Tarzan savages ooga-booga darkest Africa" vibe
lol otm
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
― emil.y, Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
There's tons of psychedelic afrobeat! And it's usually pretty tight!
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
^^Very true
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
One of these is from NYC, the other is from Sweden. I suspect that's why.
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
Also, Vampire Weekend's profile was about a thousand times higher than Goat's.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, I dunno, I put it in the same lineage as Sylvester Anfang but more beat-centred, not 'here we have a funky band doing their tight funky thing'. But fair enough, if you want a tighter psychedelic afrobeat record, go and listen to one.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, January 29, 2013 5:24 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol, maybe because Vampire Weekend are one of the worst bands ever?
― emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
No I think it's because they were self-aware instead of having this "we are communing with the primitive oneness" posture.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm not a Vampire Weekend fan, but they were very specific and respectful in their appropriations whereas Goat are offensive in theirs. I think that's an interesting point, but not one that needs much unpacking.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
Well, it warrants unpacking if the respectful group gets called out and the offensive group doesn't.
― questino (seandalai), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
Musically Goat aren't offensive in what they're doing at all. I've yet to see what they do on stage so I can't comment on that. Besides which, I'm not sure the Vampire Weekend were 'called out' for it so much as it was another stick to beat the shitty band with (it certainly wasn't my problem with them at all).
― emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
"the Vampire Weekend"? Uh, yes.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
I was entirely unclear, which is impressive when it's only two sentences!
I meant to say the quality of either's music or whether someone likes one and not the other doesn't need to be unpacked. The first sentence warrants unpacking, the second I wrote is useless.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
Musically, I find Goat offensive for the ooga booga-ness; it is only amplified by the dashiki bullshit.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
Where is the ooga-booganess? How does it inhere in the music?
― emil.y, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's right here:
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
everything about it is such a terrible approximation
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, the "ooga-booga" ness is pretty obvious from the live show, but I really don't hear it in the music itself, divorced of the stage show.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
It is in the nonspecific Afrobeatish drumming, the hoodoo voodoo chanting, the same kind of exotica that signified "Deepest Darkest Africa" in pop culture for decade after decade.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'd be willing to re listen to this as a more rhythmically dynamic Sylvester Anfang II but I was not a fan of this.
― every dog latin has his day (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
might be misreading it, but is bongo dude's balaclava some sort of knit-yr-own blackface shit?
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
I never picked up on that stuff while listening to the album tbh. It may just be coincidence that the tracks I revisit are the Afro-free ones.
― questino (seandalai), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
I mean what I hear in the music is just mostly people who listened to some afrobeat records and sort of have a general idea about what it's like but don't really get the details. To be fair, some great music has started out of bad approximations of other kinds of music (some ilxor had a really good post about this once). I'm more just annoyed by the jam-bandy vibe and the second rate drumming.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
My initial problem was I didn't think it was a very good psych band, but each time I revisited I got more uncomfortable with all the other bits.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 17:54 (4 months ago) Permalink