Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagon/Ecologyst

blue flowers

― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Monday, 17 September 2012 00:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

haven't listened to this in years and have no idea if it holds up, but "Girl Let Me Touch You" is classic

would be "Real Raw" if it was on this poll

― fadanuf4erybody, Monday, 17 September 2012 00:34 (8 months ago) Permalink

there are so many classics here but the answer is easy and it's "I'm Destructive".

― jed_, Monday, 17 September 2012 00:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

no awareness
blue flowers gonna win.

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 17 September 2012 00:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

Earth People

― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 17 September 2012 00:50 (8 months ago) Permalink

Earth People

although I almost voted for "Intro", just because I remember listening to it over & over with friends and laughing repeatedly.

― dronestreet, Monday, 17 September 2012 02:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

Blue Flowers
strings
Sailing/Up Up & Away both redeemed by it
shoobedowop

― pet carrier (Crabbits), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

I guess I quote this album to myself all the time
psychedelic this time I'm coming rainbow

― pet carrier (Crabbits), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

is he weird

― pet carrier (Crabbits), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:41 (8 months ago) Permalink

coppalating having sex

― pet carrier (Crabbits), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:41 (8 months ago) Permalink

let me ruin this album for EVRYONE

― pet carrier (Crabbits), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:41 (8 months ago) Permalink

Blue Flowers if only for Q-Bert's solo

― centibutt hz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

The scratch solo in "Blue Flowers" was my answering machine message in high school :/

― centibutt hz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 September 2012 02:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

this is a weird coincidence.. i just bought the "mo wax" version (the tracklisting polled here), and i never realized the dreamworks version (the one i've been listening to since 14 years ago) had 3-4 exclusive songs and vice versa. i just heard "biology 101" and "on production" for the first time last week and was kind of blown away.

the version i'm used to has "real raw" "1977" & "blue flowers revisited"

― billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 02:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

it's probably somewhere in my 20 favorite records... choosing one song from this is not easy.

― billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:00 (8 months ago) Permalink

haven't listened to this in years and have no idea if it holds up

youre missing out

― billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

^^ thats the version I've always been familiar with as well

(xpost to billstevejim's last sentence)

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 September 2012 03:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

Fave rap: No Awareness. Blue Flowers has a nice Bartok sample otherwise don't do much for me

― E.I.E.I. (Ówen P.), Monday, 17 September 2012 03:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

damn i havent thought about this in so long

― Hungry4Ass, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

i meant to vote for no awareness but i accidentally did bare witness

― lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:54 (8 months ago) Permalink

anyway no awareness has crazy internal rhythms

― lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:56 (8 months ago) Permalink

and of course, moose bumps

― dmr, Monday, 17 September 2012 03:59 (8 months ago) Permalink

x^ appropriate typo from g∞n

Keith toured here a couple of months ago, as Dr Octagon, playing this in full

(I didn’t go bcz I’ve seen him as Kool Keith before and he was horrible)

― ┐(´ー｀)┌ (sic), Monday, 17 September 2012 04:00 (8 months ago) Permalink

coppalating having sex

― pet carrier (Crabbits), Sunday, 16 September 2012 23:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha yeah this is totally ingrained in my brain
i feel like relistening would unearth/locate the derivation of a million other things like it too

― let's get the banned back together (schlump), Monday, 17 September 2012 04:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

youre missing out

― billstevejim, Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:01 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for real! was kinda afraid to hear this again because most automator stuff grates on me in 2012 but a lot of it still goes (this is on the dreamworks version, dont think ive ever heard the mo wax)

― fadanuf4erybody, Monday, 17 September 2012 05:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

the bit about there being a horse in the hospital and the Peter jackson samples are fun.
Can't think which song would be the bestest though. I have a lot of this on my walkman, possibly the whole lp and subsequently have bits popping up at random. Don't think I've sat down with the whole lp in years though.

― Stevolende, Monday, 17 September 2012 10:14 (8 months ago) Permalink

Bear Witness- great beat. But this whole album is classic.

― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 10:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

Blue Flowers is the next-level moment on this album

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:11 (8 months ago) Permalink

cirrhosis of the eye

fuck it, he's dead

― dmr, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:19 (8 months ago) Permalink

Bear Witness by a country mile for me. It was always the track I would put on C90 mix tapes in the Walkman days.

― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:20 (8 months ago) Permalink

Bear Witness is fine but how can you (not just you, all the people repping for it) pick the track with no Dr. Octagon on it

― dmr, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

Blue Flowers is the next-level moment on this album

it is, but i have to vote for "i'm destructive"

― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

"Blue Flowers", but I have weird love for "Half Shark Half Alligator Half Man". Such an odd concept, almost half-assed in delivery, yet entirely captivating.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

taking a paient out of the bathroom into water

― lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:28 (8 months ago) Permalink

rock wid it

― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

i can't stop the blood

― backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:57 (8 months ago) Permalink

and an all-time favorite: you need a bad operation

― backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 September 2012 16:57 (8 months ago) Permalink

I think I may actually prefer the skits to the songs on this.

― o. nate, Monday, 17 September 2012 16:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

Grateful Dead - ROCK WIT IT

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 September 2012 17:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

production is interesting and the concept is cool, but the rhymes on this albums are pretty wack, and too self-consciously weird.

― Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 17:13 (8 months ago) Permalink

I have weird love for "Half Shark Half Alligator Half Man". Such an odd concept

I think he took this from Cabin Boy, the Chris Elliott movie

― dmr, Monday, 17 September 2012 17:21 (8 months ago) Permalink

xp u crazy Kool Keith is at the top of his game on this record.

― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 17:22 (8 months ago) Permalink

I have weird love for "Half Shark Half Alligator Half Man". Such an odd concept

I think he took this from Cabin Boy, the Chris Elliott movie

Totally possible. I couldn't make it 20 minutes into Cabin Boy.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, 17 September 2012 17:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

bear witness, i'm destructive, blue flowers - all great. i need to listen to this and think.

― backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 September 2012 17:57 (8 months ago) Permalink

xp u crazy Kool Keith is at the top of his game on this record.

I don't consider lines like "Earth people / I am from California / Earth people / I was born on Jupiter" to be anywhere close to brilliant. The whole album is filled with these contrived left-field rhymes that don't really wow you so much as they just blend sci-fi and perverse porn themes into a half-assed mix. I'll give it credit for being different and quirky, especially within a genre that doesn't stray into weirdness very often, but most of the time, the rhyming just seems perfunctory and undeveloped, not clever and well-executed. I'd put this into a category of albums I like in theory, but whose execution actually isn't all that compelling.

― Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

i'm destructive

― da croupier, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

xp what genre would that be?

― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:16 (8 months ago) Permalink

rap concept album about your trip on bath salts?

― backed by regular small people (Hunt3r), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:18 (8 months ago) Permalink

xp what genre would that be?

I was really talking about rap music in general from that era.

― Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:19 (8 months ago) Permalink

if the genre is "rap" then I don't really know how to respond. Fair enough not liking the rapping, sweeping and incorrect generalisations not so cool.

― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:21 (8 months ago) Permalink

xp!

― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:21 (8 months ago) Permalink

feel like the criticism of the lyrics is reasonable, his flow is bonkers tho

― lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:23 (8 months ago) Permalink

kissing mary j blige on earth was quite normal

― r|t|c, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

ya i mean the lyrics may be a lil too self consciously weird but its ok because theyre still funny

― lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

sweeping and incorrect generalisations not so cool.

what are some other sci-fi rap albums from 1996?

― Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:26 (8 months ago) Permalink

I don't consider lines like "Earth people / I am from California / Earth people / I was born on Jupiter" to be anywhere close to brilliant.

i don't know that "earth people" is the best showcase for KK's skills, but it's got some lines. "equator ex my chance to flex skills on ampex / with power meters and heaters gauge anti-freeze / octagon oxygen, aluminum intoxicants." isolating the repeated chorus hook as an example of bad rapping isn't a fair criticism. i think the rhyming is pretty clever, overall, even in its half-assedness. the nonsensical and often awkward goofiness of the whole project is a big part of its appeal.

― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

isolating the repeated chorus hook as an example of bad rapping isn't a fair criticism.

i called that out because i remembered it. but i'm also claiming that the rest of the album is littered with similarly half-assed and awkward rhymes, which you seem to agree with.

― Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

xp it's got a stream of consciousness quality too, IMO, that makes even the nonsensical stuff sound sort of plausible. Plus his amazing flow helps as well.

re.sci-fi rap albums from 1996: true enough not many, but your assertion was that rap is a genre that doesn't do weird, and that's demonstrably false.

― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

it's actually "Earth people / New York and California / Earth people / I was born on Jupiter" fwiw. i mean if you don't like one you won;t like the other but it's still worth mentioning becaue it's a massive hook.

― jed_, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:34 (8 months ago) Permalink

your assertion was that rap is a genre that doesn't do weird, and that's demonstrably false.

i didn't phrase it right, but i was crediting it within the context of that time as being inventive. admittedly, i don't know too much about rap after the 2000s, but yes, i imagine it has a lot more subgenres now.

― Poliopolice, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:37 (8 months ago) Permalink

ya i mean the lyrics may be a lil too self consciously weird but its ok because theyre still funny

otm, and i like the way the lyrics kind of ping-pong between dumb doo-doo jokes, self-indulgent non-sequiturs and moments of genuinely unsettling psychedelic oddity. the album isn't so much a showcase for keith's rapping as it is a cabinet of curiosities, the focal point of each song shifting from moment to moment from keith's bugged-out nonsense to dan's creepy sci-fi soundscapes, from qbert's jaw-dropping cutting to skits and samples, all the weird little fragments on the margins. it's funny, catchy and more than a little scary. one of my favorite albums of its era.

― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Monday, 17 September 2012 18:54 (8 months ago) Permalink

i had the original bulk recording LP braggin

― lag∞n, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:56 (8 months ago) Permalink

it's "half sharkalligator half man"

― billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 19:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

My first thought was No Awareness, but I'll have to listen again.

― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 17 September 2012 19:35 (8 months ago) Permalink

Keith toured here a couple of months ago, as Dr Octagon, playing this in full

(I didn’t go bcz I’ve seen him as Kool Keith before and he was horrible)

saw him at ATP, at one point he just rapped the numbers from the dates on the back of a tour t-shirt some guy on stage was wearing and it was incredible, but it quickly devolved into really embarrassing poo and wee stuff.

― ledge, Monday, 17 September 2012 21:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

You can call 1-800-PeePee5 1-Doo-Doo. I'm in your corner.

― jed_, Monday, 17 September 2012 21:50 (8 months ago) Permalink

Keith can be fun live but even then only in a half-assed way

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 September 2012 22:16 (8 months ago) Permalink

You have bees flying around your rectum.

― billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 23:57 (8 months ago) Permalink

hammer... flame... i'm gettin ready to stab. jam it in.

― billstevejim, Monday, 17 September 2012 23:59 (8 months ago) Permalink

blend sci-fi and perverse porn themes into a half-assed mix

I will listen to any album w/this description

― pet carrier (Crabbits), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 01:52 (8 months ago) Permalink

blue Flowers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=fc8zdLQuZp0
Earth People

halfsharkalligatorhalfman

Hadn't seen any of the videos until I was reminded by this thread and looked them up

― Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 09:56 (8 months ago) Permalink

or maybe that's one official one and two fan ones.

― Stevolende, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 09:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

― System, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 00:01 (7 months ago) Permalink

either "i'm destructive" or "halfsharkalligatorhalfman"

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 02:00 (7 months ago) Permalink

i remember seeing "Blue Flowers" on like MTV Amp

― wood grain, chestnut / cody, CHESNUTT (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:15 (7 months ago) Permalink

wasnt really a fan of rap in drum and bass usually, but this mix improved the on original imo.

― dsb, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:23 (7 months ago) Permalink

sailling
takes me away
to where i'm really going
shoo-be-do-wop

― los blue jeans, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 03:37 (7 months ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 00:01 (7 months ago) Permalink