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It says here: "The Barclaycard Mercury prize ‘2012 albums of the year’ will be revealed at 5.30pm on 12 September ... the announcement, made by presenter and broadcaster Lauren Laverne, will be hosted by The Hospital Club in London's Covent Garden." And if that's not enough to get you out of bed, then what is?

We'll be bringing you those nominations the second they are announced this afternoon and we'll run a poll on who you think should be the ultimate winner on 1 November – plus our critic Alexis Petridis Lex will wade in with his thoughts. But before then let us know who you'd most like to make it on to the list.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 11:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

What is the worst possible album that is most likely to win this?

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 12:19 (8 months ago) Permalink

Ed Sheerhan or someone probably.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 12:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

Yikes!

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 12:37 (8 months ago) Permalink

I think his "Plus" record just qualifies, dateofissuewise

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 12:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

The Maccabees, ‘Given To The Wild’
Ben Howard, ‘Every Kingdom’
Lianne La Havas, ‘Is Your Love Big Enough’
Plan B,’Ill Manors’
Alt-J, ‘An Awesome Wave’
Field Music, ‘Plumb’
Michael Kiwanuka, ‘Home Again’
Sam Lee, ‘Ground Of Its Own’
Richard Hawley, ‘Standing At The Sky’s Edge’
Jessie Ware, ‘Devotion’
Django Django, ‘Django Django’
Roller Trio, ‘Roller Trio’

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

good god

Number None, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:48 (8 months ago) Permalink

Lianne La Havas, ‘Is Your Love Big Enough’
Jessie Ware, ‘Devotion’
Django Django, ‘Django Django’

these three are pretty good but it's almost like they're just fucking with us now w/r/t middle-class narrowcasting

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

Yeah I like the Jessie Ware and Django Django albums but good grief that's a boring list.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:55 (8 months ago) Permalink

list is zzz (LIKE EVERY YEAR so i don't know whether people genuinely give a shit? or are just talking about something they don't care about?) but i'm gleaning what i can from it and focusing on the dreadful albums that got snubbed: kindness, twin shadow, ed sheeran

(obv i like j ware but saying so in this context is so bloody boring)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:55 (8 months ago) Permalink

is twin shadow even british? does anyone care?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:56 (8 months ago) Permalink

he's American

Number None, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:57 (8 months ago) Permalink

who the hell is roller trio? sam lee?

alt-j is going to win, obviously

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

LOL

∆ (pronounced Alt-J) is a British alternative indie pop quartet

Number None, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

Jessie Ware will probably win it but that's almost TOO obvious.

I'm just worried this will overshadow coverage of the UK Packaging Awards

Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

Roller Trio (no I'd never heard of em either)

Jeff W, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:05 (8 months ago) Permalink

Sam Lee's the token folk

Jeff W, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

Don't they usually nominate some artists that most people have heard of?

direct references of (seandalai), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:11 (8 months ago) Permalink

how gross would it be if plan b won though

r|t|c, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

he's the voice of a generation

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:19 (8 months ago) Permalink

haha I was just about to ask if any of these were worth caring about

DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:23 (8 months ago) Permalink

don't worry girls, they're single

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

pretty sure i supported one of these in BTec Media Studies last year

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:26 (8 months ago) Permalink

good on dude on the far left for bringing back the Generra sweater

DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:28 (8 months ago) Permalink

good on all of them for making me want to bring back National Service

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

I don't know, Tilda Swinton has done good work in the past, I think we should let her run with this and see where it ends up

DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

nice of MarkG to get the sponsor in the thread title

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:35 (8 months ago) Permalink

I'm sure they're a shitty shitty band, but can you please concentrate your insults on that instead of becoming the appearance police? It doesn't reflect well on you.

emil.y, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:36 (8 months ago) Permalink

but then i'd have to listen to them?

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:37 (8 months ago) Permalink

(i know you are right but some press shots are kinda irresistable)

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:37 (8 months ago) Permalink

so anyway, indie's shit, who's next on the list?

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

fuck me Richard Hawley's still going

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

does he just mail them straight to the Mercury panel and cut out the shops process altogether?

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

I've heard none of these albums... But I don't think I've heard any British albums at all this year... I've heard a few 12'' and mixtapes and stuff, but no albums. So yeah.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

if we can't make fun of how british indie bands look we should just shut ilm down imo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

That whole band is made up of Alexis from Hot Chip looky-likeys

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

If that's all you get from your participation on ILM, I am truly sorry for you.

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emil.y, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

A shame nobody in Britain made any good electronic music in the past year. Unless… wait a minute

I like the same three as Tracer - Ware, La Havas and Django - plus half the Plan B (though mainly the single to be honest) and Field Music is a very popular choice among friends I trust but I haven't heard it yet.

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:51 (8 months ago) Permalink

What i heard of the Richard Hawley (admittedly very little) sounded like a cross between Edwyn Collins and stodgy Paul Weller circa Heavy Soul.

Wish they'd gone for Paul Buchanan as their miserable old man option instead, that record is devastating

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

emil.y, I actually am a gigantic fan of the Generra sweater (aka "the Cosby sweater") and unironically miss them; it comes across as snarky but I am actually 100% in favor of the return of that type of fashion

also that one dude does totally look like Tilda Swinton and there wasn't actually a judgment about the band or their actual worth in the joke I made about that

DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

Alright then if we're going for records that should've been there

CHER LLOYD
Cooly G
Delilah (now I love Jessie Ware but uhh can someone explain to me the disparity in coverage between these two)
Gazelle Twin

lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:06 (8 months ago) Permalink

Delilah (now I love Jessie Ware but uhh can someone explain to me the disparity in coverage between these two)

I like both, but you know as well as I do this happens all the time. One PR push sticks and the other doesn't, and then everybody pays attention to one and ignores the other. It happens in pop, in rock, in rap, in r&b, in country.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 18:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

shoulda been ... Reform Club - Claro Intelecto

out comes stanley, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:20 (8 months ago) Permalink

feels a bit late to be finally nominating field music - surely they deserved a nomination for 'measure' or 'tones of town' - i only gave 'plumb' a cursory skim but felt it sounded a bit flat in comparison ... will check out the django as it keeps getting recommended to me

out comes stanley, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

Django Django had some good singles a couple years back, but I still haven't heard the record. I should.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

delilah has come from an urban industry background and in terms of the kinda coffee table ~poise~ people hang their hats on this is fatally downmarket i guess

with urban thinking also comes the limited conception of popular remixes supposedly doing the donkey work for a separate magnum opus where in fact with this (slogging bloody dreary it must be said) delilah album they would not only fit in but illuminate and define the whole (redlight and joe goddard mixes i'm thinking here). yes jessie ware had the disclosure and zed bias mixes but they were part of the dance subplot of bashmore producing, listeners could expect some sort of narrative however thin

but let's be real, perception aside delilah makes less appealing music point blank

r|t|c, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

shoulda been ... Reform Club - Claro Intelecto

This would have been awesome but also soooo never going to happen. Rustie probably had more chance as far as electronic stuff goes, but even that seems a million miles from this list.

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

nice of MarkG to get the sponsor in the thread title

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:35 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was searching for Mercury threads, and all the prior sponsors are there mentioned as well.

Mark G, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 19:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

the albums framework for this is feeling pretty creaky. breakthrough-ish statements tend to come in the form of EPs nowadays it seems to me

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

huh i actually know this year's token folk pick in sam lee. i saw him last year and he was surprisingly good, though some guy at some random folk night in a pub being surprisingly good perhaps isn't the highest accolade. and then i watched a video of his and it was... not good.

tubular, mondo, gnabry (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:59 (8 months ago) Permalink

Was Paul Buchanan in the balloon aisle?

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

My barber bumps into Paul Buchanan all the time. Get to hear lots of stories. Cant listen to Radio Clyde, hate everything about that station.

VOTE in the 1980's ROCK POLL PLEASE! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:17 (8 months ago) Permalink

there's a Welsh one as well, as of last year. tbqf there really aren't enough albums released to make it a terribly worthwhile exercise but it's not hurting anyone so w/e. I was one of about 100 people on a voting 'panel' and had this awesome album by The Lowland Hundred as my no.1 but I doubt hardly any other fucker heard it

Did communist FB take down the awesome bacon quran picture? (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:22 (8 months ago) Permalink

surely it's only a question of time before the English Mercury Prize turns up

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

Sponsored by whom?

VOTE in the 1980's ROCK POLL PLEASE! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

Bristol, Devon and Dorset Music Prize, sponsored by Rodda's Dairy.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

London Music Prize 2013 Sponsored by Boris.

VOTE in the 1980's ROCK POLL PLEASE! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

Simon Frith is a British sociomusicologist, and former rock critic. He is the brother of guitarist and composer Fred Frith and neuroscientist Chris Frith.

― Ward Fowler, Friday, September 14, 2012 8:15 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

I have a feeling that this might be something I learn every year when the Mercury Prize rolls round and then forget as soon as it's over. But still.

emil.y, Friday, 14 September 2012 14:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

Oi! Rodda's are CORNISH, Devon-boy.

Atomow dhe Kres? MY A VYNN, mar pleg! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

So nick isn't a cornish indie fuxor then?

VOTE in the 1980's ROCK POLL PLEASE! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

That was DELIBERATE!

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

in every town an album prize

mostly awarded by John Robb

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:49 (8 months ago) Permalink

if only Sid James was still alive i think a remake of Carry On Girls set around a bunch of aspiring album prize winners at a run-down seaside resort wd be a winner

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:50 (8 months ago) Permalink

catfight between the token jazzers and the hilariously coifed "future of indie sounds surprisingly similar to the past of indie" boyband

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:51 (8 months ago) Permalink

With or without Bernard Bresslaw in a bikini?

VOTE in the 1980's ROCK POLL PLEASE! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:51 (8 months ago) Permalink

somebody's immaculately shockwaved hair gets mussed in the ensuing rumble and a minor lounge dubstep dj gets itching powder in his pork pie hat

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:52 (8 months ago) Permalink

I HATE Patrick Wolf ("DOOOOON LIT DI CIDDI DIS TROY OUR LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV")

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:52 (8 months ago) Permalink

Bernard Butler in a bikini.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:52 (8 months ago) Permalink

Who will play the Robin Askwith photographer role?

VOTE in the 1980's ROCK POLL PLEASE! (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

I am constantly baffled by people not liking Patrick Wolf. I honestly don't know how he's not massive and acclaimed. I think he's amazing.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

featuring Kenneth Connor as Simon Frith, Hattie Jacques as Lauren Laverne and the corpse of Ted Ray as Mark Radcliffe

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

Jack Douglas in an unamusing cameo as Burial

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:54 (8 months ago) Permalink

Same reason I didn't like Belouis Some, or the Thompson Twins. Fray Bentos voice and stupid haircut.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:59 (8 months ago) Permalink

What on earth does "Fray Bentos voice" mean?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 14 September 2012 15:18 (8 months ago) Permalink

he hates Uruguayans

syntax evasion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 September 2012 17:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

It's tonight. I shall be rooting for Sam Lee.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:08 (6 months ago) Permalink

Alt-J are an unstoppable vaguely experimental whiney-voiced juggernaut, by most accounts

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/nov/01/mercury-prize-2012-readers-winner?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9037&#start-of-comments

Background Zombie (CharlieNo4), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:10 (6 months ago) Permalink

clearly no-one gives a shit about this anymore (given the chaos on such threads in previous years !).

including me as i am currently in the west wing drinking red wine and listening to the moody blues at excessive volume.

who wins ?

me.

mark e, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:56 (6 months ago) Permalink

Alt-J's vaguely experimental indie has had critics comparing them to Radiohead. It also makes them favourites for tonight. But is An Awesome Wave really the sound of British music in 2012? Does it sum up the state of the nation? Actually, it could do – I've not idea what he's singing about half the bloody time.

winner.

mark e, Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:36 (6 months ago) Permalink

nevah heard alt-j, the guardian's blurb on them says "The music is rich and quirky enough to match the imagistic literacy of the lyrics, from the majestic, cinematic sweep of Intro onwards." that somehow does a good job of telling me nothing about how they sound while letting me know that i don't need to hear it.

Perfect Chicken Forever (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:30 (6 months ago) Permalink

heard someone on radio 2 saying that the alt-j guy sounded as if he was straight off Downtown Abbey.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:33 (6 months ago) Permalink

ha.

where do you think i got my quote from !

[i.e. i agree, clearly i need to know no more this band ]

mark e, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:35 (6 months ago) Permalink

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mark e, Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:35 (6 months ago) Permalink

They've even got someone called Thom in the band.

groovypanda, Friday, 2 November 2012 09:25 (6 months ago) Permalink

News item on Radio 4 this morning, said they had songs about a photojournalist and a luc besson film and the death of a matador, immediately cut to some young apple-cheeked-sounding twerp warbling "matador matador" and i breathed a huge sigh of relief that i didn't have to waste any time on them.

itt: 'splaining men (ledge), Friday, 2 November 2012 09:38 (6 months ago) Permalink

Remember when Boy In Da Corner won? That was amazing

paolo, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:02 (6 months ago) Permalink

@IanMartin: Ha ha just saw this photo of some Junior Apprentice hopefuls but they're not, they're the Mercury Prize winners.

groovypanda, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:13 (6 months ago) Permalink

See, Alt-J are kind of quirky and unexpected but in the blandest and most boring way imaginable. I guess that makes them remarkable. I heard one song by them that I thought was kind of intriguing but I've never been able to get through more than half a song by them since.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 2 November 2012 10:18 (6 months ago) Permalink

I saw Alt-J supporting Wild Beasts a few months back and they were just deathly dull. In all honesty one of the most boring bands I can remember ever seeing.

nate woolls, Friday, 2 November 2012 11:05 (6 months ago) Permalink

alt-j is going to win, obviously

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:58 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 2 November 2012 11:07 (6 months ago) Permalink

God, Wild Beasts are the most boring band in existence. I saw them at Primavera and they may as well have not been there at all.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 2 November 2012 11:40 (6 months ago) Permalink

Wild Beasts feel like they represent some kind of milestone as indie tries to gentrify itself out of existence but then so does most of the stuff on the list really.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 November 2012 11:43 (6 months ago) Permalink

xxp lolled at Evan Davis "Alt-J, literally curdled at the Q Awards"

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Friday, 2 November 2012 12:48 (6 months ago) Permalink

The streak of piss on the right is not wearing a poppy, he must be the 'edgy' one. Could never take this seriously especially after Gomez beat Mezzanine era Massive Attack one year.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 2 November 2012 14:20 (6 months ago) Permalink

"ALT-J"?

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Friday, 2 November 2012 14:24 (6 months ago) Permalink

ctrl-z

Mark G, Friday, 2 November 2012 14:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

How about bright newcomer Ctrl-Alt-Delete with their debut single "Blue screen of death"?

Rob M Revisited, Friday, 2 November 2012 15:04 (6 months ago) Permalink

I like Alt-J!

mike t-diva, Friday, 2 November 2012 15:17 (6 months ago) Permalink

yeah I kinda like them too!

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 2 November 2012 15:20 (6 months ago) Permalink


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