Creedence Clearwater Revival vs the Grateful Dead vs the Band

Creedence Clearwater Revival every gd time

― Gurdas Mane (crüt), Friday, 10 August 2012 01:24 (9 months ago) Permalink

Creedence Clearwater Revival every gd time

― Gurdas Mane (crüt), Thursday, August 9, 2012 6:24 PM (1 minute ago

― sarahell, Friday, 10 August 2012 01:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

the band have meant a lot more to me for a lot longer, but I listen to the dead much more now. not voting tho because why bother voting in a creedence poll in ilm

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 10 August 2012 01:27 (9 months ago) Permalink

clearly ilm's fondness for creedence is jingoism

― sarahell, Friday, 10 August 2012 01:28 (9 months ago) Permalink

CCR is the only one that i actually enjoy listening to as much in practice as in theory, and never think "I wish I was listening to Little Feat instead"

― some dude, Friday, 10 August 2012 01:29 (9 months ago) Permalink

I listened to Cosmo's Factory and Willy and the Poor Boys today, and you know I love my metal, but no metal band in the history of Earth has ever written a song half as creepy/ominous as "Run Through the Jungle."

― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 10 August 2012 01:32 (9 months ago) Permalink

listen to/love The Band the most

― buzza, Friday, 10 August 2012 01:34 (9 months ago) Permalink

CCR. Then the Dead. I loathe The Band except when they're backing other people.

― EZ Snappin, Friday, 10 August 2012 01:34 (9 months ago) Permalink

goddamn the band vs ccr is near impossible for me.

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 August 2012 01:45 (9 months ago) Permalink

btw where has tyler been lately?

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 August 2012 01:45 (9 months ago) Permalink

tylerw?

― some dude, Friday, 10 August 2012 01:47 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah, just this thread obv is his deal

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 August 2012 01:48 (9 months ago) Permalink

ccr is "better" but the last waltz has meant a lot more to me than any creedence

― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 August 2012 01:53 (9 months ago) Permalink

tough vote between ccr and the band. the dead would be #3 for me. Voting ccr. but all 3 were pretty great.

― jetfan, Friday, 10 August 2012 01:56 (9 months ago) Permalink

CC fuckin R. jesus

― global tetrahedron, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:04 (9 months ago) Permalink

Creedence Clearwater Revival without hesitation.

― Bee OK, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:04 (9 months ago) Permalink

Creedence Clearwater Revival every gd time

― Gurdas Mane (crüt), Thursday, August 9, 2012 6:24 PM (1 minute ago

― hologram sticker of Ken Griffey Jr. at Denny's (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 August 2012 02:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

CCR, since pretty much everything is awesome. The Band gets spotty after the first two albums.

I think CCR holds the record for most number of number two hits (five) with no number ones (seven total went top 10). Also, I mean, five albums between `1969 and 1970!

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:35 (9 months ago) Permalink

lol this thread is aero bait

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 August 2012 02:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

Love all three bands, but, again, the Dead.

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:44 (9 months ago) Permalink

CCR is the greatest American rock n roll band

― electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Friday, 10 August 2012 02:48 (9 months ago) Permalink

John Fogerty is the greatest American rock n roll singer

― cock chirea, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

astonishing rhythm section too

― cock chirea, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

The Band is the group where I like their sound and I like the individual players best.

― timellison, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:55 (9 months ago) Permalink

love CCR but if this is based on singers the band wins by a large degree

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 August 2012 02:56 (9 months ago) Permalink

And the singing.

xp

― timellison, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:56 (9 months ago) Permalink

haha

― timellison, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:56 (9 months ago) Permalink

CCR is the best. the band is wonderful. the dead have some epic albums and at their peak they were amazing. i wonder how the dead would be considered if they didn't have that whole image associated with them, which i think overshadows their genuine skills and talent, which is the case with virtually any jammy band with any merit.

basically: CCR >>>> the band >>>>>the dead

― omar little, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:58 (9 months ago) Permalink

TS: Danko vs. Manuel vs. Levon

― buzza, Friday, 10 August 2012 03:02 (9 months ago) Permalink

Omar otm

― for the sake of future hipstorians (Hunt3r), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:13 (9 months ago) Permalink

Love Creedence--not just their music, but also their story, the way they managed to be incredibly smart and of-the-moment while being perceived by many as the "Down on the Corner" band that made feel-good hit singles. I like a number of Grateful Dead songs a lot, although I'm basically a casual fan. The Band are a huge blind spot for me.

― clemenza, Friday, 10 August 2012 03:14 (9 months ago) Permalink

CCR - easy

― Moodles, Friday, 10 August 2012 03:35 (9 months ago) Permalink

i hate to do the kneejerk thing but i have to vote creedence. i never really got into the band and i don't think last waltz is that great. much respect for the band, but the pop fan in me prefers the punch ccr packs.

― hamlisch kilgour (get bent), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

i meant to write the dead in that last sentence.

― hamlisch kilgour (get bent), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

only one of these bands has ramble tamble

― electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Friday, 10 August 2012 03:57 (9 months ago) Permalink

and only one has Doug Clifford

― nerve_pylon, Friday, 10 August 2012 03:59 (9 months ago) Permalink

Want to vote for The Band. I never got into CCR beyond their singles/best of comps. Where does one start w/them regarding full-lenghts & deep cuts?

― Darin, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:04 (9 months ago) Permalink

"Ramble Tamble" is, for me, their greatest song, which is saying a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if there are a fair number of people who love them from the radio and/or Chronicle who don't know it. I may have heard it on the classic-rock station once or twice in my life.

― clemenza, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:07 (9 months ago) Permalink

(Wrote that before Darin posted--wasn't a specific response to him.)

― clemenza, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:08 (9 months ago) Permalink

but it is the answer
find cosmo's factory, put that shit on and boogie

― electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Friday, 10 August 2012 04:09 (9 months ago) Permalink

Creedence Clearwater Revival every gd time

― Gurdas Mane (crüt), Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:24 PM (Yesterday)

― balls, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

on the real, though, the polls of 3 tenuously connected bands, this shit is terrible, i hope this is the last one.

― some dude, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:21 (9 months ago) Permalink

it's called curating, i thought you were supposed to be a 90s nerd

― j., Friday, 10 August 2012 04:44 (9 months ago) Permalink

I can't choogle to The Band or The Dead.

As crut says, Creedence Clearwater Revival every gd time

― Johnny Fever, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:46 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, but "Up on Cripple Creek" is like deep funk so it's not like all is lost.

― timellison, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:48 (9 months ago) Permalink

it's called curating, i thought you were supposed to be a 90s nerd

― j., Friday, August 10, 2012 12:44 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

you're just, like, typing words here, they don't actually mean anything, right

― some dude, Friday, 10 August 2012 04:59 (9 months ago) Permalink

the Dead in 72 sound like the Band

"Sugar Magnolia" can choogle

voted CCR of course

― Euler, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:09 (9 months ago) Permalink

CCR. No brainer. Ramble Tamble & Fortunate Son vs most other bands catalogues. CCR vs Neil Young. Now there's a tough call...

― Oblique Strategies, Friday, 10 August 2012 05:33 (9 months ago) Permalink

most everybody in this thread otm. good work, people.

― contenderizer, Friday, 10 August 2012 06:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

I guess if you didnt know that "Eight Miles High" was influenced by Coltrane, you would know it by reading this thread.

I think we should discuss in depth the fact that "Eight Miles High" was influenced by Coltrane. As were all rock soloists.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 17 August 2012 18:17 (9 months ago) Permalink

{{Sitaration needed}}

― wk, Friday, 17 August 2012 18:17 (9 months ago) Permalink

― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 17 August 2012 19:48 (9 months ago) Permalink

"access denied"

― Romney's Kitchen Nightmares (WmC), Friday, 17 August 2012 20:05 (9 months ago) Permalink

Crap. OK, it's...

Pete Townshend of the Who on...
Sun Ra
The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra, Vol. 1

One of the things I used to love about buying records was that thing where you can't get hold of stuff you want - like now, where people go round every dance shop in London, or every indie shop for some American import, until finally you find it and it's, like, "YES! I've got it!" Then that record becomes a part of your life. I used to get that with Sun Ra. I got really into that way-out avant-garde jazz, but you couldn't find his records anywhere. So, one day, I was in a jazz shop in Chicago and I said, "Have you got any Sun Ra?" The guy says, "Yeah, all his stuff." I said, "Give me everything." He comes back with 250 albums. Most of which I've still got, still in the shrinkwrap."

― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 17 August 2012 20:08 (9 months ago) Permalink

Pete sure loves stuff that you can't normally get a hold of doesn't he?

― wk, Friday, 17 August 2012 20:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

okay that joke took a while to register with me lol

― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm sure there was a much less clumsy way to formulate that but I couldn't figure it out haha.

― wk, Saturday, 18 August 2012 04:30 (9 months ago) Permalink

I didn't vote, but I would have chosen the band. I agree that some of their later albums were spotty, I don't understand why the cut-off for the band seems to be after the s/t. Stage Fright is all time for me, and though it obviously doesn't match its predecessor, it's by no means 'spotty'. Not a weak track on Stage Fright, imo.

― softspool, Saturday, 18 August 2012 05:00 (9 months ago) Permalink

Strawberry Wine, All La Glory, The Shape I'm In, for crissakes!

― softspool, Saturday, 18 August 2012 05:02 (9 months ago) Permalink

softspool otm but I have a lot more time for latter band than most people. I even love moondog matinee!

― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 18 August 2012 12:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

i think cahoots is their weakest proper album -- and even that has some pretty great stuff on it. just has some reallllly terrible tunes, too. "where do we go from here" is probably the worst band song ever.

― tylerw, Monday, 20 August 2012 18:04 (9 months ago) Permalink

I just listened to the Band. CCR is WAY better than this.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 04:49 (8 months ago) Permalink

I didn't vote, but I would have chosen the band. I agree that some of their later albums were spotty, I don't understand why the cut-off for the band seems to be after the s/t. Stage Fright is all time for me, and though it obviously doesn't match its predecessor, it's by no means 'spotty'. Not a weak track on Stage Fright, imo.

― softspool

northern lights, southern cross is a pretty dope album overall as well imo. i think the one-two punch of MFBP and the s/t overshadows the slightly less-great work they did later, though stage fright is just barely less-great i think.

― omar little, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 04:54 (8 months ago) Permalink

I'm listen to American Beauty for the first time and yeah this is cool. I like the drone they have going in parts, and the whole thing reminds me of Incredible String Band-style trippy folk music.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 04:55 (8 months ago) Permalink

I think this must be the most mellow 'rock' album I've ever heard. It's nice! All three of these bands are definitely quintessential American w33d music.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 05:08 (8 months ago) Permalink

like american beauty era but the band is a sentimental favorite, love the personalities that shine thru the performances, vocal and otherwise. have no concept of any dead member beyond garcia and same with ccr other than jf. listening to the band i get a real sense of the band dynamics and how each guy contributed to the whole.

― buzza, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 05:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

I think the Band were the best musicians. Fogerty was the best songwriter. But the Dead were the best band.

― wk, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 07:49 (8 months ago) Permalink

"Bad Moon Rising" is blaring from the construction crew's truck next door. I just will never understand how some y'all can think of this kinda thing as even in the same league as "Stage Fright"

― we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:21 (8 months ago) Permalink

"The Last Waltz" was on some cable channel the other night. Goddamn that Robertson guy is insufferable.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:26 (8 months ago) Permalink

in fairness Levon's pretty insufferable at points in there too

― we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:30 (8 months ago) Permalink

no way!

― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

that is 100% crazy talk

― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

idk I have always really hated his midnight ramble speech

― we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:35 (8 months ago) Permalink

Everybody talks about how great a guitarist robertson is. All of his solos on Last Waltz sound exactly the same. I'm no guitarist so i may be missing something.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:41 (8 months ago) Permalink

I haven't seen The Last Waltz in a long time, but his playing on Dylan's 1966 live stuff is fucking ferocious.

― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

every member of the Band is a fucking dazzling musician. "Dazzling" doesn't mean they showboat it means any one of them could sit in with anybody and feel like they'd been in the band since it started after about one chorus

― we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

The problem is that he's trying to showboat in that movie and he looks like an ass.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:52 (8 months ago) Permalink

he was high on cocaine, cut the guy a break

― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

don't think the last waltz shows anyone in the band off to their best advantage, musically (tho' rick's performance of 'Makes No Difference' prob tops the studio versh), but you only have to listen to robertson's playing on, say, the live version of 'unfaithful servant' from Rock of Ages to hear what a great great guitarist he was

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:56 (8 months ago) Permalink

I know Neil Young was. I think his face was frozen the way he was moving his jaw.

xpost

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

i heard my first ccr album last week or whenever it was the hottest day while laying on a random person's bed pretty baked half listening to the bbq chatter outside 8pm terror twilight kind of time, i have no idea which one it was but it was amaaaaaaazing and much cooler than anything i've heard by the band or the dead

― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 14:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

ward OTM

the idea that The Last Waltz is the Band at their best is really misguided....they were sputtering out by then...it's got it's moments, but honestly Van Morrison and Ronnie Hawkins are the best parts.

Their stuff on Festival Express is way way better, just performancewise

Bill: The story goes they had to Rotoscope a coke booger out of Neil Young's nose to at some expense at Neil's insistence.

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 15:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

I love The Band on Festival Express.

― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 15:37 (8 months ago) Permalink

i dunno, i think the band sounds great in the last waltz.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 15:41 (8 months ago) Permalink

they are still good but the whole thing is a bit bloated feeling....the set-ups are good....dixie is a bit overblown...

the thing that drives me nuts now though is by that point Robbie was SO INTO his "let me go up to the microphone and mouth the words so it looks like i can actually sing even though i'm totally mixed out because it's really important that you understand i'm the most important" thing, uggg it's like dude 3 great singers in your band stfu and play guitar

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 15:43 (8 months ago) Permalink

I wish I had the book handy, but Levon's autobio has some funny takedowns of Robbie's behavior during The Last Waltz, stuff like, "Wow, you sound great...singing into that switched-off mic! Haw haw haw!"

― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 15:49 (8 months ago) Permalink

Bill: The story goes they had to Rotoscope a coke booger out of Neil Young's nose to at some expense at Neil's insistence

^that's hilarious. the guy is so obviously coked to the gills during this thing.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 15:57 (8 months ago) Permalink

the sad thing is, robertson wasn't an utterly horrible singer - iirc danko in particular was always encouraging him to sing more - it's just that he was obv never going to match the other three.

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 15:59 (8 months ago) Permalink

robbie should have done some of this allegedly non-horrible singing on his solo albums

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

He sounds decent on "Ain't No More Cane," one of my all-time favorite Band songs.

― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

he's singing lead here -- though it sounds like danko is doubling him for most of it. i like this song

but yes, he's basically terrible on his solo recs.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:08 (8 months ago) Permalink

i mean, we could split hairs all day about whether robbie was a horrible or merely passably mediocre singer, but the point of his showboating and trying to upstage the 3 truly remarkable and wonderful singers in his own band remains.

― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:09 (8 months ago) Permalink

yeah, i mean, if you knew nothing about the band while watching the last waltz, you'd assume he was one of the lead vocalists.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:11 (8 months ago) Permalink

If i knew nothing about the Band while watching the Last Waltz, i'd assume somebody would want to pummel the guy after the concert.

― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:17 (8 months ago) Permalink

I'm just not that into the vocals on the Band.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

softspool otm. Stage Fright gets unfairly maligned as one of the mediocre later Band records and that's just nuts

― it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

i mean i get that it doesn't quite have the singularity of BP or the vertigo-inducing highs of s/t but damn it's a great, solid record from start to finish

― it's smdh time in America (will), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 16:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

btw, since i could only find one passing reference to JD McPherson via search, I'll link a vid here. Roots rock fans of John Fogerty (or The Blasters, or maybe The Iguanas) might want to check him out. Great record, super fun live show. (Or maybe you're heard him and don't care?)

― Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:14 (8 months ago) Permalink

the band's s/t is one of the best albums by anyone ever

― a bag of andy capp's hot fries (stevie), Thursday, 30 August 2012 07:57 (8 months ago) Permalink