Cutting a little too close to the bone there, Stef?
― REV LION (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 August 2012 23:43 (9 months ago) Permalink
― MUBU gai pan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 5 August 2012 23:44 (9 months ago) Permalink
Sugar frosted!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 August 2012 23:47 (9 months ago) Permalink
Couldn't find a BIGGER image? I guess 1416 x 958 will have to do.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 5 August 2012 23:48 (9 months ago) Permalink
it cannot seriously be called that
― teledyldonix, Monday, 6 August 2012 02:51 (9 months ago) Permalink
sounds like a third-tier Pet Shop Boys joke
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 02:53 (9 months ago) Permalink
i want her to not suck anymore
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 August 2012 03:34 (9 months ago) Permalink
otm
― electric point-electric counterpoint (m bison), Monday, 6 August 2012 03:36 (9 months ago) Permalink
i liked her last album tbh ::shrugs::
― k3vin k., Monday, 6 August 2012 03:37 (9 months ago) Permalink
last album was garbage... just a huge misstep conceptually
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 August 2012 03:48 (9 months ago) Permalink
There wasn't really any bad music on BTW, it was all a bit samey and there was just simply too much of it tho.
― REV LION (The Reverend), Monday, 6 August 2012 04:19 (9 months ago) Permalink
I still like most of BTW. Never liked "Judas" and still don't.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 August 2012 04:40 (9 months ago) Permalink
Btw > fm
― MUBU gai pan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 6 August 2012 05:01 (9 months ago) Permalink
ugh, no. but you would say that.
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 August 2012 05:03 (9 months ago) Permalink
there'll always be kreayshawn
― the late great, Monday, 6 August 2012 05:24 (9 months ago) Permalink
more like FARTPOOP
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Monday, 6 August 2012 06:20 (9 months ago) Permalink
ahahahahahahaha at this title
she is so fucking obvious, dunno whether she thinks her fans are dumb or whether it is she who is dumb
it might still be good obv
BTW wasn't garbage, it had its moments, but it was overall a mess and a misstep and i can't really understand anyone who prefers it to fame monster, which is near-flawless
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 August 2012 09:29 (9 months ago) Permalink
Oh my LOL this thing is actually in all caps too
DO YOU SEE
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 August 2012 09:31 (9 months ago) Permalink
Really stoked for ART turning out to be 10 RedOne and Dr Luke clunkers.
― Matt DC, Monday, 6 August 2012 09:54 (9 months ago) Permalink
oh she'll never work with Dr. Luke and has been working less and less w/ RedOne. clunkers, though, yes, probably.
― Diary of a Whiney Kid: Dog Days (some dude), Monday, 6 August 2012 10:43 (9 months ago) Permalink
Forget perfect – I don't think we can ever expect a near-perfect album from her.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 12:23 (9 months ago) Permalink
interesting thing to post when nobody else has used the word "perfect" in the thread
― Diary of a Whiney Kid: Dog Days (some dude), Monday, 6 August 2012 12:24 (9 months ago) Permalink
I'm just making a comment!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 12:29 (9 months ago) Permalink
― MUBU gai pan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 6 August 2012 12:41 (9 months ago) Permalink
― lex pretend, Monday, August 6, 2012 5:29 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah this is basically OTM
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 August 2012 18:15 (9 months ago) Permalink
It was just a little too much, too soon.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:18 (9 months ago) Permalink
The only song I like more now is "Marry The Night" but otherwise I still love about half of it.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 18:24 (9 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, Marry The Night has turned into one of my favorites.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:26 (9 months ago) Permalink
I still despise "Marry The Night"
really the only songs on that album I would ever actively choose to play are "Government Hooker" and "The Edge of Glory" (I wouldn't turn off "Born This Way", "Bloody Mary" or "You and I" if someone else played them)
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Monday, 6 August 2012 18:28 (9 months ago) Permalink
imperfect metaphor but I'll be impressed if Gaga winds up more Madonna in career arc than Cyndi Lauper
― da croupier, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:29 (9 months ago) Permalink
you wouldn't reach over and turn off his iPod, in other words
xpost
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 18:29 (9 months ago) Permalink
well no, that would be rude
unless he was playing "Americano", then I would destroy the iPod to put it out of its misery
― keeping things contextual (DJP), Monday, 6 August 2012 18:30 (9 months ago) Permalink
i tried hard to embrace born this way, but wasn't ever quite able to get there (despite my enthusing in the discussion thread). it's got tons of good ideas, but few of them really gel, and the sound of the thing is terribly off-putting. "highway unicorn" and "heavy metal lover" are the only songs i'm still happy to hear.
― contenderizer, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:35 (9 months ago) Permalink
omigod I forgot about "Highway Unicorn"
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 18:36 (9 months ago) Permalink
imperfect metaphor but I'll be impressed if Gaga winds up more Madonna in career arc than Cyndi Lauper― da croupier, Monday, August 6, 2012 2:29 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― da croupier, Monday, August 6, 2012 2:29 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Does that mean that Fame Monster is her True Colors and the next one will be the one with "I Drove All Night"? Because, if so, then she's operating at a higher level than Lauper was.
(She needs a throwaway soundtrack single like "Goonies" though.)
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:37 (9 months ago) Permalink
goonies isn't throwaway
― Jamie_ATP, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:38 (9 months ago) Permalink
Oh wait, I guess Born This Way would've been the one with "I Drove All Night" (I should just google its real title). That being the case, she's way closer to Madonna's arc than Lauper's.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:39 (9 months ago) Permalink
Perhaps throwaway was a poor word choice. Standalone, perhaps.
Perhaps.
As I said "imperfect metaphor" but i see her slipping into professionalism w/ wacky hair where someone like Ke$ha or Nicki Minaj seems to be doing a better job dishing out a ton of candy-pop and riling people just by being themselves.
― da croupier, Monday, 6 August 2012 18:41 (9 months ago) Permalink
every single off BTW is worse than any single off FM
& least when the same was true w/ justin it went in the service of his second album being undeniably better & more cohesive
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 August 2012 18:42 (9 months ago) Permalink
BTW is certainly the only blockbuster pop album in recent memory whose album tracks I enjoyed more than the singles.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 18:43 (9 months ago) Permalink
Man y'all are crazy; Fame/FM sounded so unexceptional and cookie-cutter (and also super repetitive) and BTW seemed like the first time she considered approaching something that might be on some planet "artistic" or "experimental" or some shit (even though it totally wasn't). Why does she refuse to make wacky music to fit her "wacky" persona?
― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:19 (9 months ago) Permalink
i dunno, born this way is pretty arch
― contenderizer, Monday, 6 August 2012 19:23 (9 months ago) Permalink
Isn't Kesha still at the album and ep stage? no second record from her yet, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 August 2012 19:56 (9 months ago) Permalink
i think cyndi lauper still has a p loyal following
― Elrond Hubbard (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 August 2012 20:12 (9 months ago) Permalink
She does. Now if only she'd record a proper album rather than collections of blues, showtunes and remakes of her old songs with trendy new artists, which is what she's been doing for the last decade-ish.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Monday, 6 August 2012 22:47 (9 months ago) Permalink
She made a pop album just a few years ago. It was terrible, but at least it wasn't any of those things you mentioned.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:26 (9 months ago) Permalink
Born This Way is that weird case of an album that had four top-ten singles, including one number-one, and yet has somehow diminished the artist in some weird undefinable way. Like, after Fame Monster she was clearly a force of nature but after Born This Way she feels more like an ordinary musical act. And that's despite trying to seem as extraordinary as possible, keeping up the weirdness, etc. etc. I think it was just a little too soon - at least half the songs really could have benefited from a couple more rounds of work from everybody involved. (OTOH, maybe she just wanted to strike while the iron was hot - and who's to say that was the wrong call commercially?)
I have no real beef with any of the singles but the album material has never sunk its claws into me. Gonna give it another spin tonight, keep trying at it. I'm still a fan, still stoked about the new one (horrible title aside), but there was a point where I was really going out of my way to champion her and Born This Way kind of stalled that out.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:42 (9 months ago) Permalink
yea Doctor Casino, jordan and lex all otm re BTW and FM
there are definitely moments on FM that changed me. like forever.
not sure what to say about artpop the title
― surm, Monday, 6 August 2012 23:43 (9 months ago) Permalink
macro proclamations on an artist's career based on one under-performing album are such a bad look
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 August 2012 08:41 (8 months ago) Permalink
I figure if Katy Perry and Rihanna still haven't been yanked off the stage by a cane, Gaga has a few years left in her...
It's hard not to draw the Madonna comparisons in regard to that story. I remember at the time Madonna released the Sex book that the media tried to turn its back on her. And she was shunned for some time. Come to think of it, though, the general population's attitude toward her after that did permanently sour a bit. She was no longer given free rein of pop culture. And she fought hard to remain an icon through the 90s.
There do seem to be plenty of examples of pop artists losing their sheen because of one false move (or a successive series of small 'violations'), such as an underperforming album. I would agree with the author that the untouchable quality Gaga had a couple of years ago is gone, comparing this phase to the one MJ and Madonna experienced during the 90s. And I don't think it's just Furgate. Didn't it start with her drag performance at last year's VMAs? That was when I no longer believed in her invincibility as a pop persona.
One of the best - and most recent - examples of an artist overcoming this is Kanye. But being an annoying douchebag has been part of his persona for a while, and he rather brilliantly folds that into his lyrics to paint a fuller picture of who Kanye, the performer/celebrity, is. Madonna was rather successful at this as well (MJ and Prince, not so much). Another point the author makes that I probably agree with is that Gaga's musical output may not be unimpeachable enough for her to come out of this phase in one piece.
Sorry if this topic has been discussed to death (especially the Madonna comparisons); I just didn't have the time to read all of the Gaga threads.
― azaera, Friday, 24 August 2012 09:34 (8 months ago) Permalink
wouldn't just sheer length of time be a factor? the sex/erotica period was actually madonna at her peak creatively, but she'd been at the forefront of popular culture for nearly a decade at that point, i guess there's always going to be an element of people getting bored or sick of someone always being there, along with their fans growing up and changing. it's still way way early in gaga's career by comparison.
and c'mon as tempting as all the madonna comparisons are, they don't mean she's going to follow madonna's career arc to the letter.
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 August 2012 09:39 (8 months ago) Permalink
Did she even tour behind "Born This Way?"
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2012 12:38 (8 months ago) Permalink
she's STILL touring behind it, has been abroad for the last few months, and it was the 8th highest grossing tour of 2011
― some dude, Friday, 24 August 2012 12:46 (8 months ago) Permalink
Huh. Well, she never toured the US behind it, did she? When I saw her last, she encored with "Born This Way," so the single was out, but she hasn't been back here since. I don't think?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:06 (8 months ago) Permalink
this information is really easy to find out
The Born This Way Ball is the third concert tour by American recording artist Lady Gaga, in support of her second studio album Born This Way (2011). The tour will consist of approximately 110 shows in Asia, New Zealand, Australia, and later Europe in August 2012, followed by Latin America and South Africa towards the end of the year, and then North America beginning in January 2013.[1]
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:10 (8 months ago) Permalink
(the fame monster tour lasted pretty much up until the release of born this way in may 2011)
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:11 (8 months ago) Permalink
yeah i guess the last US dates were actually a few weeks before the album dropped, although multiple singles were out by then and the album had been pushed back a bit so i'd thought of those as in support of Born This Way. not touring the US at all after it dropped probably hurt the album's standing, too, but then she toured for like 2 and a half years straight for The Fame. (xpost)
― some dude, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:14 (8 months ago) Permalink
The tour in 2011 was the Fame Monster Ball. The Born This Way Ball started in April 2012, which I think is why we haven't seen her as much recently. (x-post)
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:16 (8 months ago) Permalink
but then she toured for like 2 and a half years straight for The Fame.
when i went to the monster ball tour wikipedia page, scrolling down through the dates seemed to take about a week
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:20 (8 months ago) Permalink
girl works HARD
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:21 (8 months ago) Permalink
She does work hard. But for most purposes, then, no - she did not tour the US behind Born This Way. I imagine by January 2013 the hype machine will have shifted fully to the new album. I think that's kinda cool, actually. I liked the idea of artists so prolific their tours can't keep up with their output.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:22 (8 months ago) Permalink
this sounds real
http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/72118191.html
― centibutt hz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 22:34 (8 months ago) Permalink
damn that sounds like a smash
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 22:40 (8 months ago) Permalink
lady gaga trap ugh
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 22:43 (8 months ago) Permalink
cake like
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 22:45 (8 months ago) Permalink
I made it halfway.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 22:45 (8 months ago) Permalink
yeah, about that
― i know your nuts hurt! who's laughing? (contenderizer), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 22:46 (8 months ago) Permalink
i think i approve
― human centipede hz (thomp), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 22:48 (8 months ago) Permalink
i'm only like 30% sure i have any idea what's going on tho
wow that's terrible
― the best Laid jams (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 23:11 (8 months ago) Permalink
this sounds like it was made by a Real Housewife
― the best Laid jams (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 23:13 (8 months ago) Permalink
otm, this shit sucks
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 23:54 (8 months ago) Permalink
Sounds like fucking around in the studio to me. Can't imagine this would be on the album.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 23:55 (8 months ago) Permalink
cake. LIKE. lady. GAGA. cake. LIKE. lady. GAGA.
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:28 (7 months ago) Permalink
hahah this is pretty awesomely dopey y'all
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:33 (7 months ago) Permalink
yeah, basically
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 September 2012 00:33 (7 months ago) Permalink
it's no worse than chief keef
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 September 2012 10:02 (7 months ago) Permalink
burqa swag like lady gaga
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 September 2012 10:04 (7 months ago) Permalink
psst hey guys don't tell anyone but i heard that apparently... donatella got them clothes
― r|t|c, Thursday, 20 September 2012 11:36 (7 months ago) Permalink
She is really accelerating through the Madonna career roadmap, huh
― wtf where's my chapbook (DJP), Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:11 (7 months ago) Permalink
song sounds hot, at the very least it's going back to a hazy monster feel and tbh i don't hear much madonna in here
― surm, Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:20 (7 months ago) Permalink
it's not that it's another "Born This Way"/"Express Yourself" situation, it's the whole "pop star does semi-embarrassing rap" thing a la "American Life"
― cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:24 (7 months ago) Permalink
ohh. well but gaga never shied away from embarrassing herself by rapping, and tbh i'd much much rather hear that than some more highway unicorn shit or whatever it was called
― surm, Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:26 (7 months ago) Permalink
good kreayshawn leak
― barthes simpson, Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:28 (7 months ago) Permalink
lmao
― cake-like Lady Gaga (DJP), Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:29 (7 months ago) Permalink
i'd much much rather hear that than some more highway unicorn shit or whatever it was called
There are reasonable limits to Born This Way hatred.
― Ham Lushbaugh (Eric H.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:34 (7 months ago) Permalink
― human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:44 (7 months ago) Permalink
ew
― surm, Thursday, 20 September 2012 13:45 (7 months ago) Permalink
Cocaine is a helluva drug.
― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Thursday, 20 September 2012 14:29 (7 months ago) Permalink
jaykhsar
She held a contest for fans to write in their own original songs. This one was picked as the winner so she recorded it with him. It’s fan written, but it’s 100% her singing with him. It won’t be on ARTPOP.
#lady gaga #artpop #i fucking knew she wouldnt have wrote this
― human centipede hz (thomp), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:16 (7 months ago) Permalink
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
― surm, Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:21 (7 months ago) Permalink
lil b would win a lady gaga fan contest
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 September 2012 16:23 (7 months ago) Permalink
So - Cake is getting a video? Unless this is clever fakery?
NSFW NSFW NSFW
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:16 (5 months ago) Permalink
haven't heard this, but my dad called her Radio Gaga today
― Z S, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:18 (5 months ago) Permalink
haha i made that same reference way back when on ILM, then it turned out she actually is named after Radio Ga Ga, oops
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:20 (5 months ago) Permalink
Actually, I think I posited that she could be a cross between "Radio Ga Ga" and "Lady Stardust," but that doesn't really change matters much.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:21 (5 months ago) Permalink
Wait, is that song a collaboration between Lady Gaga and Kerri Kenney? Awesome.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:35 (5 months ago) Permalink
lol that took a minute to sink in, respect
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:39 (5 months ago) Permalink