Nominations for an 80s Albums That Rock Poll(inc indie/Alt,punk,metal,heavy/glam etc) CLOSES SUNDAY NIGHT 11:59 p.m. UK

yes

Alright then

Mekons - Fear and Whiskey
The Clean - Boodle Boodle Boodle
Tall Dwarfs - Hello Cruel World

Results of the previous 80s poll

Will infact post the old results here since JF wanted no more posts over there
100. Robyn Hitchcock - I Often Dream of Trains [1984] (75 points, 5 votes)
98. (tie) Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Hole [1984] (76 points, 5 votes)
98. (tie) Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription [1987] (76 points, 5 votes)
97. Big Black - Atomizer [1986] (77 points, 8 votes)
96. Associates - Sulk [1982] (79 points, 6 votes)
95. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking [1988] (79 points, 7 votes)
94. Def Leppard - Pyromania [1983] (80 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)
93. Thomas Dolby - The Golden Age of Wireless [1982] (80 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
92. Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - Dazzle Ships [1983] (80 points, 9 votes)
91. Run-D.M.C. - Raising Hell [1986] (80 points, 10 votes)
90. Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets II [1984] (81 points, 9 votes)
89. Prince and the Revolution - Parade [1986] (83 points, 10 votes)
88. Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel of Love [1987] (86 points, 7 votes)
87. Pet Shop Boys - Actually [1987] (86 points, 8 votes)
86. Pet Shop Boys - Please [1986] (87 points, 8 votes)
84. (tie) Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine [1989] (87 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
84. (tie) Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues [1983] (87 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
83. David Bowie - Scary Monsters [1980] (89 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)
82. Scraping Foetus off the Wheel - Nail [1985] (91 points, 5 votes, 1 first place vote)
81. The Beat (aka The English Beat) - I Just Can't Stop It [1980] (91 points, 13 votes)
80. Various - The Indestructible Beat of Soweto [1985] (93 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)
79. The The - Soul Mining [1983] (93 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
78. The Pogues - Rum, Sodomy & the Lash [1985] (93 points, 16 votes)
77. Meat Puppets - Up on the Sun [1985] (94 points, 8 votes)
76. U2 - The Joshua Tree [1987] (95 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
75. Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual [1983] (95 points, 9 votes)
74. Galaxie 500 - On Fire [1989] (96 points, 10 votes)
73. X - Wild Gift [1981] (97 points, 9 votes)
72. The Chills - Kaleidoscope World [1986] (98 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote)
71. Roxy Music - Avalon [1982] (99 points, 10 votes)
70. Laurie Anderson - Big Science [1982] (99 points, 11 votes)
69. Scritti Politti - Cupid & Psyche 85 [1985] (100 points, 7 votes)
68. New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies [1983] (100 points, 16 votes)
67. Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes [1983] (101 points, 12 votes)
66. Prefab Sprout - Steve McQueen [1985] (104 points, 10 votes, 1 first place vote)
65. Donald Fagen - The Nightfly [1982] (105 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
63. (tie) Tom Waits - Rain Dogs [1985] (106 points, 12 votes)
63. (tie) Cocteau Twins - Treasure [1984] (106 points, 12 votes)
62. Grace Jones - Nightclubbing [1981] (106 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
61. Arthur Russell - World of Echo [1986] (108 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
60. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full [1987] (111 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote)
59. Mekons - Fear and Whiskey [1985] (111 points, 8 votes, 2 first place votes)
58. The Cure - Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me [1987] (112 points, 7 votes, 2 first place votes)
57. Arvo Pärt - Tabula Rasa [1984] (112 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote)
56. R.E.M. - Lifes Rich Pageant [1986] (112 points, 12 votes)
55. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me [1987] (115 points, 13 votes)
54. Bruce Springsteen - Born in the U.S.A. [1984] (118 points, 14 votes)
53. Bruce Springsteen - Nebraska [1982] (120 points, 14 votes)
52. Brian Eno / David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts [1981] (120 points, 17 votes)
51. Leonard Cohen - I'm Your Man [1988] (121 points, 11 votes)
50. The Feelies - Crazy Rhythms [1980] (123 points, 13 votes)
49. The Go-Betweens - 16 Lovers Lane [1988] (125 points, 9 votes, 1 first place vote)
48. XTC - Skylarking [1986] (127 points, 16 votes)
47. Steely Dan - Gaucho [1980] (128 points, 9 votes)
46. R.E.M. - Reckoning [1984] (131 points, 14 votes)
45. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Doc at the Radar Station [1980] (133 points, 11 votes)
44. The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace [1985] (136 points, 13 votes)
43. Sonic Youth - EVOL [1986] (143 points, 12 votes, 1 first place vote)
42. Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising [1985] (146 points, 14 votes)
41. The Cure - Pornography [1982] (148 points, 9 votes)
40. Dexy’s Midnight Runners - Searching for the Young Soul Rebels [1980] (148 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
39. Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4 [1984] (154 points, 12 votes, 2 first place votes)
38. New Order - Substance [1987] (156 points, 16 votes)
37. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising [1989] (164 points, 23 votes)
36. The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour [1982] (166 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
35. ABC - The Lexicon of Love [1982] (173 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote)
34. The Smiths - Hatful of Hollow [1984] (173 points, 16 votes)
33. The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs [1987] (174 points, 20 votes)
32. Prince - 1999 [1982] (191 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
31. Sonic Youth - Sister [1987] (199 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)
30. Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade [1984] (200 points, 13 votes)
29. Young Marble Giants - Colossal Youth [1980] (200 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
28. The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses [1989] (201 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
27. Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction [1987] (201 points, 18 votes)
26. Prince - Dirty Mind [1980] (210 points, 14 votes, 1 first place vote)
25. The Clash - Sandinista! [1980] (211 points, 11 votes, 3 first place votes)
24. The Cure - Disintegration [1989] (218 points, 19 votes, 1 first place vote)
23. The Human League - Dare [1981] (219 points, 17 votes, 2 first place votes)
22. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything [1988] (229 points, 19 votes, 2 first place votes)
21. Paul Simon - Graceland [1986] (237 points, 17 votes, 1 first place vote)
20. The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy [1985] (243 points, 23 votes, 1 first place vote)
19. The Replacements - Let It Be [1984] (252 points, 18 votes, 1 first place vote)
18. Joy Division - Closer [1980] (255 points, 24 votes)
17. Kate Bush - The Dreaming [1982] (269 points, 13 votes, 3 first place votes)
16. New Order - Technique [1989] (273 points, 15 votes, 2 first place votes)
15. Pixies - Surfer Rosa [1988] (273 points, 21 votes, 1 first place vote)
14. Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden [1988] (274 points, 18 votes, 2 first place votes)
13. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique [1989] (291 points, 25 votes, 1 first place vote)
12. Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime [1984] (300 points, 15 votes, 3 first place votes)
11. The Smiths - The Queen is Dead [1986] (307 points, 26 votes, 1 first place vote)
10. Pixies – Doolittle [1989] (323 points, 31 votes)
9. Michael Jackson - Thriller [1982] (331 points, 35 votes)
8. Kraftwerk - Computer World [1981] (338 points, 29 votes)
7. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation [1988] (356 points, 28 votes, 3 first place votes)
6. R.E.M. - Murmur [1983] (359 points, 30 votes, 2 first place votes)
5. Prince - Sign “O” the Times [1987] (381 points, 28 votes, 2 first place votes)
4. Kate Bush - Hounds of Love [1985] (422 points, 35 votes, 2 first place votes)
3. Prince and the Revolution - Purple Rain [1984] (423 points, 35 votes, 2 first place votes)
2. Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back [1988] (478 points, 39 votes, 2 first place votes)
1. Talking Heads - Remain in Light [1980] (568 points, 37 votes, 4 first place votes)

The 2 polls will be quite different then (doubt we will get as many ballots but who knows!)

JF was it you who ran the alternate 70s poll ? was it just albums from the previous 70s poll you didn't allow or was it any band who had an album in the top 100 you banned?

It was only the 100 albums that placed in the original 70s poll.

Did you never fancy doing an alternate 80s poll?

It hasn't even been three years since Tuomas's poll. Figured it could probably wait a while longer (there was a big gap between 70s mkI and 70s mkII).

I did ever so briefly toy around with the idea of a worst of the 80s poll, but preemptively decided it was a dumb undertaking.

The idea is good actually but the problem is a lot of the worst albums noone will in their right mind have played them since the 80s and younger people should be unaware of them. It would just turn into anti-canon/big album bashing.
But if that's what you want then you should go for it! The butthurt that ensues would be lolz

has there been a 1960s poll?

Yep, all the decades have been covered both albums and tracks-wise except the 50s, which was just tracks.

Wonder how an alternate 60s albums poll would turnout. Would everyone just vote a beatles album that didn't make the previous poll as winner?

Better late than never. ILX 60'S POLL PART TWO - THE ALBUMS

Only a top 50 posted, less than 300 even nominated. That could probably stand to be redone at some point (no offense to Billy Dods).

oh cool

my other idea for a poll (as i wanted to leave the power pop poll to you as its a genre you love) was a funk poll. But I realised that we wouldn't get double figures in ballots unless we included soul and that just obviously defeated the purpose of a standalone funk poll. I'm not sure we've had a soul poll so maybe that will get done in the future. It deserves a tracks/albums poll.
I would love it if someone ran a reggae poll some time.

Genre polls are tricky (see rap and metal and this very weird poll here). Tuomas is slated to do a disco poll in the current poll schedule (after we get through a couple dozen more artist polls) and that will probably even be controversial, even though everyone knows what disco is when they hear it. I've never had any desire at all to run a genre poll.

not even a genre you love?

I just realised that Geir will hate this poll as everything he likes probably wont be eligible!

Years and artists are easy. Labels too. Genres are hard and completely arbitrary and people get rowdy because the rules aren't clear. I like clear rules. (i.e. Was it released between 1970 and 1979? Okay, it's eligible.)

well you certainly don't get problems with purists in those polls at least

but genre polls are fun.

i know you enjoy participating on them too

jazz might not be your thing but that was a very enjoyable poll to do.
The metal poll was mostly as well.

now please get your nominations rolling in.

DNA - A Taste of DNA
Mars - 78

Better late than never. ILX 60'S POLL PART TWO - THE ALBUMS

Only a top 50 posted, less than 300 even nominated. That could probably stand to be redone at some point (no offense to Billy Dods).

― Johnny Fever, Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

lol jesus man

not in favour of jf redoing it?

just re-doing the exact same poll that was done less than 5 years ago, for likely a very similar result, strikes me as wasted time. maybe something like that alternate 90s poll we did a while back where every album that placed in the previous 90s poll was disqualified, would certainly make room for a different look at the 60s.

I'm not in a terrible hurry to redo any poll at the present time, btw. If I were to tackle the 60s, I'd definitely go the "alt-60s" route and exempt the 50 albums that placed in the original poll.

contenderizer,

Coincidentally, I found a copy of Paul Roessler's Pandemonium Shadow Show Featuring Twisted Roots (1983, Iridescence) in a thrift store today and there are some serious pop keyboards on this.

Has Kira on bass, Dix Denney of the Weirdos on guitar.

Gerber on vocals

bump for new nominations?

Coincidentally, I found a copy of Paul Roessler's Pandemonium Shadow Show Featuring Twisted Roots (1983, Iridescence) in a thrift store today and there are some serious pop keyboards on this.

― timellison, Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:12 PM (Yesterday)

how have i not heard of this?

...just spent a few minutes looking. doesn't appear to be avail for download anywhere :(

http://images.buyninjacostumes.com/leonardo-turtle-costume.jpg???

bump for new nominations?

I was under the impression that the poll was on its way to being killed by a death by a thousand cuts when it suddenly imploded. in the event of zombie resurrection:

Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1
Ike Yard - s/t
Prong - Primitive Origins
Suicide - Half Alive

I guess if Bruce is out then John Cougar Mellencamp is too?

80% of the postmortem conveniently written already:

The concept of a 'Taste Vocabulary' - unread

hah.

Can we have more nominations please? No point in opening voting until the electronic poll voting has stopped as it would be unfair on them incase people want to vote in both

Assuming there is enough people interested in voting?

you may need to make an official pronouncement vigorously disputing the notion that the poll is sorry sack of death. also, while I don't feel that your aesthetic parameters are particularly oddball, have you considered letting people nominate literally any 80s album they think rocks, leaving it to the voters to sort? or, otoh, actually making the poll narrower (eg metal/punk/noise rock)? just my .02.

no

just to be clear, I like the general idea of the poll (and was also just making a bad joke about the poll's limbo status). also, pop is obv the main focus of ILM, and I understand wanting to stick w/a rock poll. other people seem v. confused by the criteria, tho, and I threw those ideas out there to address that. nbd

yeah I know its cool. Nominations are always a bit slow until theres an end date.
Thread does need to have chat though to keep it on SNA so people are reminded.

I don't really see any place for someone like me in this poll. I listen to rock. I'd say there was a point in my life when I listened to MOSTLY rock. However, a bunch of the college rock shit I'd nominate has already been nominated and there's not much point in nominating hair metal that no one will vote for besides me and maybe two or three other people.

Of course, I'd consider Siouxsie to be a rock band (if you've only ever heard "Peek A Boo" or whatever, I'd understand your inclination to say no). And Pretenders (especially album #1). And Bryan Adams's Reckless, which was one of 1984's best mainstream rock albums.

But this was never really a poll about rock music. It was a poll about was AG considers rock music. Instead, I think we should all show up at his house and letter-grade his cd collection.

no it isn't. its about a different poll from the usual already been done 80s rock poll that Rolling Stone likes to do

bump

ok i guess now the electronic poll is underway then this is the last week for nominations.

perhaps a kindly mod would add nominations close sunday night to the title?

But this was never really a poll about rock music. It was a poll about was AG considers rock music. Instead, I think we should all show up at his house and letter-grade his cd collection.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, August 17, 2012 11:50 PM (3 days ago)

the way the poll is framed might seem a bit clunky like 'rock' vs 'music that rocks' or whatever, but it makes sense if you think in terms of spirit rather than genre

there is enough of an envelope to cover most of this stuff (except the pop end metal)

it was a protean age when the lines between genres weren't quite so blurred, but there was a definite sort of harshness, an irrationalism, a dyonysian trend that you can trace through the young gods to live skull to early sonic youth to spacemen 3 to napalm death and so forth

to that extent, it is correct to exclude music which is not a part of that tendency

I tried adding "noms close" info to the thread title, but the title is already so long I just get an error message. If you write a thread title that gets closing date into the current number of characters, I can make the edit.

think some sort of brevity might be in order

PFUNKBOY IN ROCKPOLL NOMS CLOSE SHOCKAH

How about shortening it just to
Nominations for an 80s Albums That Rock Poll(inc indie/Alt,punk,metal,heavy/glam etc) CLOSES SUNDAY NIGHT MIDNIGHT UK?

Thanks

it was a protean age when the lines between genres weren't quite so blurred, but there was a definite sort of harshness, an irrationalism, a dyonysian trend that you can trace through the young gods to live skull to early sonic youth to spacemen 3 to napalm death and so forth

to that extent, it is correct to exclude music which is not a part of that tendency

He took the words right outta my mouth..

there is enough of an envelope to cover most of this stuff (except the pop end metal)

it was a protean age when the lines between genres weren't quite so blurred, but there was a definite sort of harshness, an irrationalism, a dyonysian trend that you can trace through the young gods to live skull to early sonic youth to spacemen 3 to napalm death and so forth

to that extent, it is correct to exclude music which is not a part of that tendency

"Except[ing] the pop end of metal" kind of weakens this, though, since it is included. (I would also query the exclusion of stuff like Run DMC and Beastie Boys, given some of the things that are included.)

no i don't think run dmc and beasties really fit here at all

the pop metal stuff....i think you have to include gnr in this somehow, if only as the sort of negative-image, and because when you disregard narcissism of smallish differences there are definite similarities with jane's addiction, who certainly belong here

the rest of the glam stuff i wouldn't include but i don't really care, and i don't think that stuff is going to be that highly represented in the results

Thanks WmC

there is also something dialectical and hilarious about including these two, and excluding REM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alKM2Y1XxWU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0eVTeQi06c

R.E.M. are more rational and less Dionysian because Peter Buck played a Rickenbacker.

peter buck reserves his dionysian side for scraps with airline staff

tim quit trolling and positively contribute by nominating albums that fit the criteria

450 Albums Nominated so far

AC/DC - Back in Black
Adolescents - Adolescents
Aerosmith - Pump
Agent Orange - Living in Darkness
Anthrax - Among The Living
Appliances-SFB - SFB
Appliances-SFB - SFB
Avengers - Avengers
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Bad Brains - I Against I
Bad Brains - s/t
Bad Religion - Suffer
Band of Susans - Love Agenda
Band of Susans- Hope Against Hope
Bastro - Diablo Guapo
Bathory - Under The Sign Of The Black Mark
Bauhaus - Burning From The Inside
Bauhaus - In The Flat Field
Bauhaus - Mask
Bauhaus - The Sky'S Gone Out
Big Black - Atomizer
Big Black - Songs About Fucking
Big Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's Club
Big Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's Club
Billy Idol - Rebel Yell
Birthday Party - Junkyard
Bitch Magnet - Umber
Black Flag - Damaged
Black Flag - In My Head
Black Flag - Jealous Again
Black Flag - My War
Black Flag - Slip It In
Black Sabbath - Heaven And Hell
Black Sabbath - Mob Rules
Blind Idiot God - s/t
Blind Idiot God - Undertow
Blue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus Erectus
Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet
Boredoms - Soul Discharge
Butthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To Live
Butthole Surfers - Hairway to Steven
Butthole Surfers - Locust Abortion Technician
Butthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S Sac
Butthole Surfers - Rembrandt Pussyhorse
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Candlemass -Nightfall
Capt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar Station
Capt Beefheart - Ice Cream for Crow
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
Celibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of Existence
Celtic Frost - Into the Pandemonium
Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Cheap Trick - One On One
Christian Death - Only Theatre of Pain
Chrome - Blood on the Moon
Chrome - Red Exposure
Chrome - Third From the Sun
Circle Jerks - Group Sex
Condemned to Death - Diary of a Love Monster
Condemned to Death - Diary of a Love Monster
Cop Shoot Cop - Headkick Facsimile
Coroner - No More Color
Coroner - Punishment for Decadence
Coroner - R.I.P.
Corrosion of Conformity - Animosity
Cosmic Psychos - Go the Hack
Couch Potatoes - Curiosity Rocks
Couch Potatoes - Curiosity Rocks
cows - daddy has a tail
Cramps - Psychedelic Jungle
Cramps - Smell Of Female
Cramps - Songs The Lord Taught Us
Crash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13
crass - christ - the album
Crass - Penis Envy
Crass - Yes Sir I Will
Cro-Mags - Best Wishes
Cro-Mags - The Age of Quarrel
Cryptic Slaughter - Money Talks
D.R.I. - Crossover
D.R.I. - Dealing With It
DAF - Die Kleinen und die Bosen
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Das Damen - Mousetrap
Das Damen - Triskaidekaphobe
Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten Vegetables
Dead Milkmen - Beelzebubba
Death - Leprosy
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
Death Angel - The Ultra-Violence
Death in June - Brown Book
Death in June - The Guilty Have No Pride
Def Leppard - Hysteria
Def Leppard - On Through the Night
Def Leppard - Pyromania
Descendents - I Don't Want to Grow Up
Descendents - I Don't Want to Grow Up
Descendents - Milo Goes To College
Descendents - Milo Goes To College
Diamond Head - Lightning to the Nations
Didjits - Hey Judester
Die Kreuzen - S/T
Dinosaur - S/T
Dinosaur Jr - Bug
Dinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over Me
Dio - Holy Diver
Dio - Last In Line
Discharge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing
DNA - A Taste of DNA
Dog Faced Hermans - Humans Fly
Dogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet Saloon
Dream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and Roses
Drunks with Guns - Drunks with Guns
Dwarves - Horror Stories
Dwarves - Tooling for a Warm Teabag
Einsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of Ot
Einsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen Richterskala
Einsturzende Neubauten - Halber Mensch
Einsturzende Neubauten – Haus der Lüge
Einsturzende Neubauten - Kollaps
Electro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead One
Embrace - Embrace
English Dogs - Forward Into Battle
Exciter - Long Live the Loud
Exodus - Bonded By Blood
Exodus - Fabulous Disaster
Extreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your Head
F/i - Out of Space & Out of Time
F/I - Space Mantra
Faith No More - Introduce Yourself
Faith No More - The Real Thing
Fear - The Record
Fire Party - s/t
fIREHOSE - Ragin', Full On
Fishbone - Truth and Soul
Flesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To Die
Flipper - Generic Flipper
Foetus Interruptus - Thaw
Fugazi - Fugazi
Fugazi - Margin Walker
Fushitsusha - Live I
Game Theory - Big Shot Chronicles
George Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the Bone
Girl Trouble - Hit It or Quit It
Girlschool - Demolition
Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1
Glenn Branca - The Ascension
Godflesh - Streetcleaner
Gore - Mean Man’s Dream
Grong Grong - S/T
Guess Papers - We Got 'Em
Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Halo of Flies - Garbageburn
Halo Of Flies - Singles Going Nowhere
Hanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks
Head Of David - Dustbowl
Head Of David - Head Of David
Helios Creed - Superior Catholic Finger
Helios Creed - The Last Laugh
Husker Du - Candy Apple Grey
Husker Du - Flip Your Wig
Husker Du - Metal Circus
Husker Du - New day Rising
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Icons of Filth - Onward Christian Soldiers
Icons of Filth - Onward Christian Soldiers
Iggy Pop - Instinct
Ike Yard - s/t
Iron Maiden - Killers
Iron Maiden - Number Of The Beast
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Iron Maiden - s/t
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
Jim Carroll Band - Catholic Boy
Jim Carroll Band - Catholic Boy
Joan Jett - Bad reputation
Jon Wayne - Texas Funeral
Journey - Departure
Journey - Escape
Judas Priest - British Steel
Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith
Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
Killdozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling Elite
Killdozer - Snake Boy
Killing Joke - Killing Joke
Killing Joke - Night Time
Killing Joke - What's THIS For...!
Kilslug - Answer The Call
King Crimson - Discipline
King Diamond - Abigail
Kix - Blow My Fuse
Kix - s/t
Kreator - Pleasure To Kill
Last Exit - Köln
Lazy Cowgirls - Tapping the Source
Lemonheads - Hate Your Friends
Lime Spiders - Headcleaner
Lita Ford - Out For Blood
Live Skull - Bringing Home The Bait
Live Skull - Cloud One
Live Skull - Don't Get Any on You
Live Skull - Dusted
Live Skull - S/T
Living Colour - Vivid
Loop - Black Sun
Loop - The World in Your Eyes
Loop: - Fade Out
Loverboy - Get Lucky
Lubricated Goat - Paddock Of Love
Lyres - Lyres Lyres
Macabre - Gloom
Manilla Road - Crystal Logic
Manilla Road - The Deluge
Manowar - Fighting The World
Manowar - Sign of the Hammer
Mars - 78
Massacre - Killing Time
Masters Of Reality- Masters Of Reality
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Meat Puppets- II
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!
Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?
Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So What
Melvins - Gluey Porch Treatments
Melvins - Ozma
Mercyful Fate - Melissa
Metallica - ...And Justice For All
Metallica - Kill 'Em All
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Metallica - Ride The Lightning
Ministry - The Land of Rape and Honey
Ministry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
Ministry - Twitch
Minor Threat - Minor Threat
Minor Threat - out of step
Minutemen – Double Nickels on the Dime
Minutemen - The Punch Line
Minutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?
Misfits - Beware
Misfits - Earth Ad
Misfits - Legacy Of Brutality
Mission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and Marches
Mission of Burma - Vs.
Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On Dope
Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness
Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood
Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil
Motley Crue - Too Fast For Love
Motorhead - Ace of Spades
Motorhead - Another Perfect Day
Motorhead - Orgasmatron
Mudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff
MX-80 Sound - Out Of The Tunnel
My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
Naked City - Naked City
Naked Raygun - Jettison
Naked Raygun - Throb Throb
Napalm Death - From Enslavement To Obliteration
Napalm Death - Scum
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*Tor
Neurosis - Pain of Mind
New Model Army - No Rest for the Wicked
Nick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is Dead
Nick Cave + the Bad Seeds - From Her to Eternity
Nick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My Trial
Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
Nirvana - Bleach
Nitzer Ebb - Showtime
No Trend ‎– When Death Won'T Solve Your Problem
NoMeansNo - Wrong
Obituary - Slowly We Rot
Operation Ivy - Energy
Pagans - Buried Alive
Pantera - Power Metal
Paul Chain - Violet Art Of Improvisation
Paul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EP
pil - flowers of romance
Pixies - Come On Pilgrim
Pixies - Doolittle
Pixies - Surfer Rosa
Plasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984
Plasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984
plugz - better luck
Poison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!
Poison Idea - Kings of Punk
Pop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder
Possessed - Seven Churches
Primus - Suck On This
Prong - Force Fed
Prong - Primitive Origins
Psychedelic Furs - Talk Talk Talk
Psychic TV - A Pagan Day
Psychic TV - Mouth of the Night
Pussy Galore - Dial 'M' for Motherfucker
Pussy Galore - Sugarshit Sharp
Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
Raging Slab - Raging Slab
Ramones - End of the Century
Rapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack Mule
Raw Power - Screams From the Gutter
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky Styley
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers Milk
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party Plan
Redd Kross - Neurotica
Replacements - Let It Be
Replacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The Trash
Repulsion - Horrified
Rhys Chatham - Die Donnergotter
Rites Of Spring - End on End
Royal Trux - Royal Trux
Rudimentary Peni - Death Church
Rudimentary Peni - Death Church
Rush - Moving Pictures
Saccharine Trust - Pagan Icons
Saccharine Trust-Surviving You, Always
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late
Saint Vitus - Saint Vitus
Saint Vitus - V
Scientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On Love
Scientists - Weird Love
Scorpions - Love At First Sting
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel - Hole
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel – Nail
Scratch Acid - Just Keep Eating
Scratch Acid - s/t
Screaming Trees - Buzz Factory
Screaming Trees - Even If & Especially When
Septic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains
Sisters Of Mercy - First And Last And Always
Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
Skid Row - Skid Row
Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And Manipulate
Skinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse
Skinny Puppy - VIVIsectVI
Skullflower - Form Destroyer
Slayer - Hell Awaits
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Slayer - South Of Heaven
Slint - Tweez
Slovenly - We Shoot For the Moon
Snakefinger - Greener Postures
Snatches of Pink - Dead Men
Social Distortion - Mommy's Little Monster
Social Distortion - Prison Bound
Sodom - Agent Orange
Sonic Youth - Confusion Is Sex
Sonic Youth - Evol
Sonic Youth - Sister
Sonny Sharrock - Guitar
Sore Throat - Death to Capitalist Hardcore
Soul Asylum - Hang Time
Soundgarden - Louder Than Love
Soundgarden - Ultra Mega OK
Spacemen 3 - Playing With Fire
Spacemen 3 - Sound of Confusion
Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription
SPK - Auto-Da-Fe
SPK - Auto-Da-Fe
Squirrel Bait - Skag Heaven
Squirrel Bait - Squirrel Bait
Steve Jones - Fire and Gasoline
Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or Die
Suicidal Tendencies - S/T
Suicide - Half Alive
Swans - Children Of God
Swans - Cop
Swans - Filth
Swans - Public Castration Is A Good Idea
Swans - S/T
Swans - Young God
Terrorizer - World Downfall
Test Dept. - Ecstacy Under Duress
Testament - The Legacy
Testament - The New Order
The Birthday Party - Prayers on Fire
The Crucifucks - s/t
The Crucifucks - s/t
The Cult - Electric
The Cult - Love
The Cynics - Blue Train Station
the ex - 1936 spanish revolution
The Fall - Hex Enduction Houir
The Fall - Perverted by Language
The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace
The Fluid - Clear Black Paper
The Fuzztones - Lysergic Emanations
The Gories - House Rockin'
The Gun Club - Fire of Love
The Gun Club - The Las Vegas Story
The Jesus And Mary Chain - Automatic
The Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy
The Jesus Lizard - Pure
The Left - Hell It's the Earth
The Left - Hell It's the Earth
The Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our Madness
The Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!
The Misfits - Walk Among Us
The Nomads - Outburst
The Primitives - Lazy 86-88
The Ramones - Pleasant Dreams
The Scientists - Blood Red River
The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Gunshy
The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally Religious
The Sound -Jeopardy
The Telescopes - Taste
The Wedding Present - Bizarro
Thee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock Explosion
Thin Lizzy - Thunder and Lightning
Thin White Rope - Moonhead
This Heat - Deceit
Three Johns - Atom Drum Bop
Throwing Muses - s/t
Throwing Muses - The Real Ramona
Tin Machine - Tin Machine
Trouble - Psalm 9
TSOL - Change Today?
Twisted Sister - Stay Hungry
Union Carbide Productions - In the Air Tonight
Ut - Conviction
Van Halen - 1984
Van Halen - Women and Children First
Venom - Possessed
Venom - Welcome to Hell
Void/Faith Split LP
Voivod - Dimension Hatross
Voivod - Killing Technology
Voivod - Nothingface
Warrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich
WASP - WASP
Whitesnake - Slip of the Tongue
Whitesnake - Whitesnake
Wipers - Is This Real
Wipers - Over The Edge
Wipers - Youth Of America
Witchfinder General - Death Penalty
Wolfhounds - Bright & Guilty
X - Los Angeles
X - Wild Gift
Y&T - Open Fire
Yes - Big Generator
Yes - Drama
Young Gods - L'eau Rouge
Young Gods - s/t
Zero Boys - Vicious Circle
Zoogz Rift - Amputees in Limbo
ZZ Top - Eliminator

oh wait theres a few doubles there. Will fix up spreadsheet

Noone seems in favour of keeping the popmetal

thoughts?

the rest of the glam stuff i wouldn't include

Why, though? Because pop invades too much?

I'm not sure equating "harshness" with "absence of pop" is something that holds up. Are the Pixies harsher than R.E.M. because they were less pop? It seems to me that they are included, then, merely because they might have been less committed to pop (and not necessarily more committed to anything else).

xp

personally ive no problem with it being included even though i wont be voting for it.

pixies were more pop than rem, also more corrosive, more interesting &c &c

i) I don't think it's fair to say that Tim is trolling! The points he's making seem fair to me.

ii) I don't think there's any way in which the Pixies were more pop than REM.

i) I don't think it's fair to say that Tim is trolling! The points he's making seem fair to me.

Like, "rational" and "Dionysian" seem like pretty vague and subjective terms for what we're talking about. I've never thought of Flowers of Romance (or even Ragin' Full On, which I nominated, or the Rush albums) as "Dionysian".

oh come on his comments about rickenbackers that he repeats is trolling

'Are the Pixies harsher than R.E.M. because they were less pop?' is prima facie a stupid question

oh come on flowers of romance is dionysian as fuck

(Yet, weirdly, I kind of like including pop metal in an "80s music that rocks" poll! It does seem to complicate the definitions though, from an objective pov.)

xposts

i don't think it complicates definitions at all unless you labour under the misapprehension that there is some concrete and obtainable taxonomy of all god's musics

Who wants pop metal out?
Who wants pop metal kept in?

Taste shouldn't be part of your decision.

leave it in now

Y'all are some of the most pedantic motherfuckers I've ever encountered in my life.

I'm not even participating in this anymore. Just observing from outside like looking at an ant farm.

Hm, well, sorry if I was being pedantic. I didn't make the rules and was kind of curious about people's explanations for and arguments about them.

this coming from the dude who was going on about bruce springsteen upthread xp

Just observing from outside like looking at an ant farm.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, August 20, 2012 6:02 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

that would be.....an ALIEN ant farm

(johnny are you ok, are you ok johnny?)

it's not really a farm though - more like a handful of ants people get to react by poking at them with a stick.

'Are the Pixies harsher than R.E.M. because they were less pop?' is prima facie a stupid question

― A.R.R.Y. Kane (nakhchivan), Monday, August 20, 2012 9:54 AM (8 minutes ago)

I wasn't asking the question. I was trying to frame things that were included/excluded based on your definition of the parameters. "Harshness" was the only quality that seemed like it might have some conceivable application in the case of Pixies/R.E.M. (rational and Dionysian did not seem to).

If indeed "harshness" is the determining factor, then it seemed to me that this it is, precisely, the absence of pop that makes it so. You claim the Pixies were more "corrosive" - I don't know if I agree.

I may have said something about Springsteen not being eligible, but I never really lobbied on his behalf. My main beef with this whole endeavor is that the nominating process should be a time of inclusion (we all pretty much know what rock sounds like when we hear it, right?). Voting will be the time when things get excluded. If people disagree with your choices, that will all come out in the voting and no one has to chastise anyone else needlessly. AG's polls create some of the most dysfunction lines of thinking I've ever seen on ILM.

i don't really give a fuck what is or isn't included in the sense of special pleading for this or that music in some poll on the internet

it can be interesting to argue these definitions though, and i don't think tim or sund4r are being /pedantic/ in that sense at all

I wasn't asking the question. I was trying to frame things that were included/excluded based on your definition of the parameters. "Harshness" was the only quality that seemed like it might have some conceivable application in the case of Pixies/R.E.M. (rational and Dionysian did not seem to).

If indeed "harshness" is the determining factor, then it seemed to me that this it is, precisely, the absence of pop that makes it so. You claim the Pixies were more "corrosive" - I don't know if I agree.

― timellison, Monday, August 20, 2012 6:09 PM (5 minutes ago)

then harshness is the apt descriptor

pixies are clearly at the user friendly end of my spectrum there, so it is to be expected that they don't exemplify it as much as say, swans do

it can be interesting maddening to argue these definitions though

yeah but with respect i don't think you are that interested in music ~theoretically~

very few people are!

And I honestly think the Rickenbacker thing is valid. I saw R.E.M. many times in the '80s - once in '85 on a bill with True West. Given that we were talking about the Dream Syndicate earlier, maybe True West could stand in for them here. Who was more rocking that night - R.E.M. or True West?

I likewise saw a bill of the Three O'Clock and Thin White Rope in '87 and the same question applies.

REM begin that optimistic and communitarian tendency in indie music, their ideal form is a sort of dissenting church of indeterminately alienated, dull unhappy people who can find shared meaning in chiming guitars and plaintive 'cryptic' lyrics that speak to the them alone and them altogether

both them and the pixies draw quite heavily mission of burma, probably

You claim the Pixies were more "corrosive" - I don't know if I agree.

― timellison, Monday, August 20, 2012 10:09 AM (6 minutes ago)

surfer rosa is way more corrosive than anything REM ever put out. that does seem to be part of what's at work in defining the umbrella here: transgression, noise, against-ness. all the destructive, chaotic, foam-flecked impulses nakh invoked in mentioning the "dionysian". that plus close relation to a few related genres: heavy metal, hard rock, punk/hc, and a "rock & roll" tradition that runs from chuck berry up through the white stripes. indie gets a place at the table, but only so long as it shares more in common with those genres & impulses than with pop. there's also an unstated macho element to this vague definition.

yeah

'transgression' is such an overused idiot word in 2012, almost as bad as 'radical', but in the distant 1980s most of this music was, or seemingly wished to be transgressive

I wasn't asking the question. I was trying to frame things that were included/excluded based on your definition of the parameters. "Harshness" was the only quality that seemed like it might have some conceivable application in the case of Pixies/R.E.M. (rational and Dionysian did not seem to).

If indeed "harshness" is the determining factor, then it seemed to me that this it is, precisely, the absence of pop that makes it so. You claim the Pixies were more "corrosive" - I don't know if I agree.

"harshness" is more an aesthetic judgement than a quality per se. I'd settle for "intense" even though we're splitting hairs here. but you also have to examine the reasons why a band might seem more intense. bands that rock harder, that play their instruments more aggressively, vigorously, loudly and dynamically than other bands are going to seem more intense (or, to a pop fan, possibly harsher). intensity doesn't imply an absence of pop so much as it implies a commitment to rock at the very least equal to the commitment to pop. very simply, the Pixies rock harder than R.E.M. (though not by much, admittedly), and to a dedicated pop fan may seem harsher as a result. the Pixies are an interesting example, though, because I would say that they are as dedicated to pop as they are to rock, which is not the case for many of the bands on this list. imagining rock and pop occupying opposing corners on a sliding scale is helpful, and I think the Pixies are just a tad over the rock line, close to the center, while R.E.M. are perhaps an equal distance away from the center on the pop side of the scale. this abstraction is obviously a bit simplistic and YMMV.

and contenderizer re ar kane upthread, 69 is indeed probably a bit too somnolent and detached for inclusion here, but their early eps certainly qualify

'lollita' and 'sadomasochism is a must' are trying at being ~transgressive~, trying too hard perhaps

Naw, R.E.M. had a tougher rhythm section.

xp

which REM tracks should we be listening to here/

Naw, R.E.M. had a tougher rhythm section.

I'm not a fan of either band, tbh, but I don't think is true. R.E.M. are definitely lighter on guitars, and as a band, their dynamics are generally far more subdued. as I said, I think the Pixies rock harder than R.E.M., but not by a lot. if you genuinely think that R.E.M.'s rhythm section rocks harder, I don't have a major trump card to disprove this notion ("Gigantic", perhaps).

"Radio Free Europe," "Pretty Persuasion," "Second Guessing," "Little America," "Feeling Gravitys Pull," "Auctioneer," "Begin the Begin," "These Days," "Just a Touch," "Windout," "Finest Worksong," "Fireplace," etc.

There's a heaviness to the rhythm section (i.e., bass and drums and sometimes guitar too!) and a sort of feeling of playing in the pocket that comes from hard rock.

that plus close relation to a few related genres: heavy metal, hard rock, punk/hc, and a "rock & roll" tradition that runs from chuck berry up through the white stripes.

Again, Chuck Berry but not Buddy Holly, etc.

well yeah

"harshness" is more an aesthetic judgement than a quality per se.

where the early pixies stuff is concerned, "harshness" = suddenly shrieking really fucking loudly in the midst of what might otherwise pass for a pleasant indie pop song. this tactic aligns them with the weird, noisy, transgressive-aggressive, antipop sensibility that this poll seems organized around.

Chuck Berry but not Buddy Holly, etc.

i say yes cuz the implied line runs from chuck berry and jerry lee lewis to the ramones and motorhead

There are no subjects more transgressive than the apocalypse ("It's the End of the World as We Know It," "Fireplace").

haw!

right i am relistening to radio free europe, which is a nice song for sure

the rhythm section is insistent enough but absolutely nothing else about, everything is perfectly controlled and pellucid and good-spirited and clean-lined

"Radio Free Europe," "Pretty Persuasion," "Second Guessing," "Little America," "Feeling Gravitys Pull," "Auctioneer," "Begin the Begin," "These Days," "Just a Touch," "Windout," "Finest Worksong," "Fireplace," etc.

There's a heaviness to the rhythm section (i.e., bass and drums and sometimes guitar too!) and a sort of feeling of playing in the pocket that comes from hard rock.

I would characterize these tracks as light rock. they're spirited but not particularly loud or aggressive, and as such don't really have a place in a poll covering the most rocking tracks. the tempos and dynamics are rock-ish, but the guitars and vocals are pure pop. are you honestly suggesting that these tracks are among the most rocking tracks of the 80s? or simply that they deserve to be categorized as rock?

I'm saying that they have a heavier rhythm section than other things included in the poll.

where the early pixies stuff is concerned, "harshness" = suddenly shrieking really fucking loudly in the midst of what might otherwise pass for a pleasant indie pop song. this tactic aligns them with the weird, noisy, transgressive-aggressive, antipop sensibility that this poll seems organized around.

idk, "harshness" is too closely associated with distaste, which is why I prefer "intensity". those really fucking loud shrieks may sound harsh to Tim, but I usually find these episodes of noise to be invigorating. I think that we're probably on the same page w/r/t where the Pixies stand in relation to the rest of the bands in this poll.

And that heavier rhythm sections and groove used to be a determining factor in establishing how much things rocked, c.f. Brownsville Station, Grand Funk, etc.

I'm saying that they have a heavier rhythm section than other things included in the poll.

well, this may be true. and perhaps The Dream Syndicate should also be excluded, or REM should be included. the discussion is a bit pointless, though, because in a poll where people are voting for the most rocking tracks, no one IMO is realistically going to be voting for either. The REM/Dream Syndicate line is thin and arbitrary, admittedly, but if AG is going to draw a line, then any bands abutting this line are fodder for this discussion no matter where it's drawn.

I don't think we're being asked to vote for the most rocking tracks. I think we're being asked to vote for our favorite tracks where our fondness for them has something to do with how much they rock.

And that heavier rhythm sections and groove used to be a determining factor in establishing how much things rocked, c.f. Brownsville Station, Grand Funk, etc.

this is a major factor, but not certainly not the only one. and really, R.E.M.'s rhythm section, compared to those found in most of the other bands on this list, is fairly weak. it's not as though R.E.M. have a commanding, legendary rhythm section and are being denied simply because their guitars and vocals are tepid. on occasion, R.E.M. can rock and put down a groove, but this is not the band's raison d'etre. R.E.M. make nice, hummable pop tunes that are occasionally animated enough to be called "rock", but this puts them, at best, at the margin of this poll.

hellhouse otm

lol haven't looked on this thread in a while and tim is still flogging his REM hobbyhorse

Well, I was making a different point this time...

And that heavier rhythm sections and groove used to be a determining factor in establishing how much things rocked, c.f. Brownsville Station, Grand Funk, etc.

― timellison, Monday, August 20, 2012 7:36 PM (40 minutes ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUZ5VgcMY88

I don't think we're being asked to vote for the most rocking tracks. I think we're being asked to vote for our favorite tracks where our fondness for them has something to do with how much they rock.

I think in this particular case, we're being asked to find tracks where our fondness for them has everything to do with how much they rock. this is merely my understanding. I'm not barring R.E.M., and I'm not running the poll, so ultimately I can't say. but, again, I think that we're being asked for tracks and albums that we love precisely because we think they rock hard. I also think that part of the problem, at least for the older voters, is that there was a moment in the early 80s when the twee/neurotic stylings of REM and Beat Happening and the Feelies ran so counter to the mainstream notions of rock generally and masculinity specifically, that they scanned as "punk", and were imagined, somewhat ironically, as being more aggressive than they were. there may be a tension in this poll in terms of using the criteria of the 80s vs. using today's criteria to evaluate these bands (and IMO, the perception of these bands, outside of that particular historical context, has changed markedly, and they are no longer really seen as aggro).

R.E.M.'s rhythm section, compared to those found in most of the other bands on this list, is fairly weak.

I look at the list and I see a lot of bands that were a lot less grounded in '70s rock than R.E.M. And I don't know what they might have been more grounded in. And when I see the Fall and lots of others, I think, "Gimme a break."

The Feelies "rocked" when they wanted to.

R.E.M.'s rhythm section, compared to those found in most of the other bands on this list, is fairly weak.

I look at the list and I see a lot of bands that were a lot less grounded in '70s rock than R.E.M. And I don't know what they might have been more grounded in. And when I see the Fall and lots of others, I think, "Gimme a break."

the Fall? this is a huge plate of challops. they're well known for having an aggressive, driving rhythm section that lunges and lurches and swings. and regardless of R.E.M.'s 70s inspirations, the music they actually produced for the most part doesn't really rock. perhaps in a live setting, when the music is naturally louder and heavier, and the dynamics more intense, they actually rock. but the records they put out are fairly tame. I doubt anyone here has anything to say that will convince you, though.

The Feelies "rocked" when they wanted to.

true. but I'm generalizing about bands perceived as twee. I'm not really looking to hash it out over the Feelies.

fair enough. This whole thing is so absurd.

The Fall rocked harder when Simon Wolstencroft joined. Why? Because he was a better, more solid drummer. This was when they became more of a pop band.

the problem, tim, is that you seem to be using a fairly technical and traditional definition of rock music, and this poll seems to be centered more around a cluster of less traditional ideas and attitudes.

it's easy enough, i think, to assume that something unites the weird, dark, aggressive, outré, challenging and antipop strains of 80s rock in such a way that a comprehensible circle can be drawn around motley crue, the pixies, the cramps, the fall, this heat, voivod and the swans - while at the same time excluding REM, the feelies, bruce springsteen and the pretenders. the pixies are definitely borderine in that construction, but like hellhouse says, there will always be disputes on the borderland...

the problem, i suppose is that once you've included, say, the cramps, the gun club and X, it becomes hard to justify excluding other bands who trade in rock americana. but personally, i can see the sense in putting those bands inside while keeping REM out. they may not rock harder according to your definition, but in their early days at least, they were rawer and wilder, more insistently aggressive and punk.

Are things like "Life and How to Live It" and "Fireplace" just not weird or dark in the right way?

I think I had the sense of R.E.M. having a sort of apocalyptic vision even before "It's the End of the World as We Know It," but that made it explicit. ("I'm Gonna DJ" did later, too, of course.) They used to close sets with it and on one later tour, probably '99 or so, they had this crazy light sculpture that was part of their set design. It was a bunch of iconographic images in lights and different images would light up throughout the set for different songs. Anyway, during "End of the World" all these images start flashing and it might sound obvious or something but it was genuinely one of the most palpably intense things I've ever seen.

Are things like "Life and How to Live It" and "Fireplace" just not weird or dark in the right way?

― timellison, Monday, August 20, 2012 1:05 PM (22 minutes ago)

it's more a product of the overall tone of entire albums, stage presence & iconography, the manner in which the themes are approached, etc.

i mean, REM's basic approach to troublesome ideas is humanitarian concern. they don't give themselves over to the joy of annihilation.

there was a moment in the early 80s when the twee/neurotic stylings of REM and ... ran so counter to the mainstream notions of rock generally and masculinity specifically, that they scanned as "punk", and were imagined, somewhat ironically, as being more aggressive than they were.

This is interesting. How was e.g. Reckoning seen by mature listeners at the time? None of the antecedents for it seem like they should have been that unfamiliar. I remember hearing "So. Central Rain" and "Fall on Me" in 1989 and thinking they were kind of moody and arty but I was also 10 years old.

Are things like "Life and How to Live It" and "Fireplace" just not weird or dark in the right way?

these songs aren't weird or dark at all. the actual, physical sounds found on these songs are smooth, clean, bright, upbeat. I generally don't listen to lyrics, but in any event Michael Stipe's singing is likewise evenhanded and friendly and melodic. these are pop tunes built on a rock template. in the beginning of each tune, we get a little bit of lightly distorted guitar that quickly disappears once the songs are underway. rhythmically the socks technically rock, but even then not in a particularly aggressive fashion. R.E.M. never really bear down on a rhythm and push it. the songs have motion, but are never in any way chaotic. these tunes are quick and clean and jaunty. I'm not saying that they're bad, btw (although, again, I'm not a fan). Sonically, R.E.M. are content to make music that is occasionally upbeat and uptempo, but is never forceful in any way. in this way, the music feels a bit passive, even when the tempos are high.

the "songs" technically rock, not "socks"

there was a moment in the early 80s when the twee/neurotic stylings of REM and Beat Happening and the Feelies ran so counter to the mainstream notions of rock generally and masculinity specifically, that they scanned as "punk", and were imagined, somewhat ironically, as being more aggressive than they were.

― Hellhouse, Monday, August 20, 2012 12:22 PM (1 hour ago)

yeah, like sund4r, i question this. it's definitely true of beat happening, and that kind of subversion was an explicit part of their approach. otoh, don't remember any similar reaction to REM and the feelies, and they don't seem to have had a similar intent.

This is interesting. How was e.g. Reckoning seen by mature listeners at the time? None of the antecedents for it seem like they should have been that unfamiliar. I remember hearing "So. Central Rain" and "Fall on Me" in 1989 and thinking they were kind of moody and arty but I was also 10 years old.

I'm thinking more of the early- to mid-80s. I'm sure you've read accounts of the early days of many particular punk/postpunk scenes, when bands weren't so categorized, and the scene wasn't so fragmented and people would listen to just about anything as long as it was perceived as "punk" or "alternative" or whatever. Like, in the early 80s, you might buy a New Order record along with a Black Flag record and an R.E.M. record, and yet there was no perception of eclecticism. these bands were played on the same radio stations, performed at the same venues, and their records were found in the same sections in the same stores, and therefore it was easier to imagine an aesthetic continuity, even if it was only a vague, anti-mainstream sentiment.

i get your point now, and i think it's valid. beat happening were more extreme, but yeah, REM and the smiths were embraced not as "punk" exactly, but as an "intelligent alternative" to the then-mainstream conception of what rock music could/should be.

Oh, I totally get the "intelligent alternative" thing.

yeah, like sund4r, i question this. it's definitely true of beat happening, and that kind of subversion was an explicit part of their approach. otoh, don't remember any similar reaction to REM and the feelies, and they don't seem to have had a similar intent.

before the Internet, obviously, different scenes were genuinely different. I grew up in a relatively conservative, middle-class suburb, and even light fare like R.E.M. had quasi-"punk" cache, so to speak. I can see, though, how your experience might be very different. also, I think once Husker Du and the Replacements signed to the majors ('85), "underground" music became increasingly segmented.

yeah, i agree that they had quasi punk cachet, but i think it was more a product of their presumed intelligence than the subversive quality of their relative gentleness

though, sure, that too

yeah, i agree that they had quasi punk cachet, but i think it was more a product of their presumed intelligence than the subversive quality of their relative gentleness

even the "relative gentleness" was seen as being aggressively anti-jock, which translated into a countercultural ethos of sorts.

these songs aren't weird or dark at all.

Obviously, I don't agree. It feels to me like someone is telling me that Stravinsky is weird and dark and Chopin is not.

Also, if we're talking about weakness - and we seem to be, R.E.M. as "light fare" etc. - isn't something like early Swans inherently weak? Like a depiction of weakness is the actual point? They may be hitting the drums hard but it's like the last semi-violent outburst that you stumble into before you fall down and die.

even the "relative gentleness" was seen as being aggressively anti-jock, which translated into a countercultural ethos of sorts.

yeah, i agree w that. was a big part of the initial attraction for me, tbh.

Also, if we're talking about weakness - and we seem to be, R.E.M. as "light fare" etc. - isn't something like early Swans inherently weak? Like a depiction of weakness is the actual point? They may be hitting the drums hard but it's like the last semi-violent outburst that you stumble into before you fall down and die.

― timellison, Monday, August 20, 2012 2:31 PM

yeah, but they're presenting weakness and self-negation in such an extreme fashion that they become deeply transgressive attacks. and the music is not just loud, but brutally violent. there's something odd about your unwillingness to acknowledge this.

What I'm unwilling to acknowledge is that it has anything to do with how much it rocks.

yeah, but "rocks" can be defined any number of ways. it's not a term with an absolute, unchanging definition. shouldn't be too hard to adapt to the definition at work here, i don't think, even if it runs counter to your own.

I don't think the qualification for this poll has anything to do with whether something rocks, because obviously many things that rock have been disqualified. I think there is a certain sensibility that the organizers are after, but saying that something "rocks" doesn't really describe it at all.

It's called "80s Albums That Rock Poll."

May sort this out: What does it mean for a piece of music to "rock"?

but "rocks" can be defined any number of ways.

Well, there's debate about it, sure, but obviously we don't have to leave it completely open. I saw Swans live once and would have thought it unusual if I'd have heard someone talking about how much it rocked afterwards.

I mean, "to rock" doesn't really have any technical meaning afaik (even in the way that "to swing" does) so I can't really get too worked up about that particular issue, even if I do think there are questions to be raised about for this poll.

That was mangled "... there are questions that could be raised about this poll"

Also, tbh, I've loved 80s REM since first hearing them at 10 but I've personally never thought of them as a hard-rocking band in any case so fixating on them in particular can seem a little curious.

like personally, for me, the term "rocks" should be reserved for upbeat, aggressive, and somewhat pop-minded stuff that falls somewhere along this line:

chuck berry/jerry lee lewis --> sonics/star club beatles --> ramones/dolls/motorhead --> nirvana/white stripes

like hitting hard, moving fast, getting people up on their feet, and wrecking the room in a more-or-less accessible fashion. not too light to cause damage, but not too heavy to maneuver quickly.

that definition definitely excludes dark & arty weirdness like swans, flowers of romance and this heat, but it also excludes a lot of superheavy and thrashy shit that seems far too harsh and generally uncatchy to really rock properly, imo. nor is it too friendly toward the kinder, gentler stuff tim is advocating for. but try to set my prejudices aside for this poll, cuz i'm not in the driver's seat.

It's called "80s Albums That Rock Poll."

FYI, the track poll is called "the most rockingest tracks of the 1980s". I can agree that R.E.M. are a rock band, but they are certainly not among "the most rockingest" bands of the 80s. Also, AG states in the opening that he's looking for albums/tracks at the "rockier end of indie/Alternative rock."

seriously, what is your opinion of R.E.M.? would you honestly say that they're one of the most rocking bands of the 80s? and do you just want the band to be included in the poll, or are you looking for recognition that they're a heavy rock band? what exactly are you looking for?

I'm looking for more nominations and participants!! haha

Enjoying the discussion though. It's interesting.

that he's looking for albums/tracks at the "rockier end of indie/Alternative rock."

Sure, but that's the very thing we've been debating and the discussion has encompassed many bands nominated.

Sure, but that's the very thing we've been debating and the discussion has encompassed many bands nominated.

you haven't answered the question. what is your opinion of R.E.M.?

some of these criteria of rock put 'radio free europe' well ahead of 'back in black'

i think that discussion may be more suited for the tracks poll.

lol

This discussion has made me realize that I actually think it's awesome that AG has made up his own genre and is polling it.

Nah that would put me in the same league as Chuck. I'm not worthy.

I can agree that the meaning of "rock" isn't self-evident or unchanging. you know, one of the ironies of this discussion is that many of the heavy "arty" bands like Sonic Youth and Swans did not consider themselves rock bands and in fact vehemently denied that they were such. iirc, a number of punk and postpunk bands explicitly claimed to be "anti-rock". again, this is a sort of tension in the poll between how bands were seen in their historical context and how they're viewed now. a lot of the discussion then, however, was wrapped up in the very tired and stereotypical rock cliches that were still being aggressively peddled by mainstream rock bands.

tracks poll has way more noms than albums poll btw.
I suggest you all look through your record/cd/mp3 collections and find stuff that you would want to vote for just to avoid "oh noone nominated...."

hellhouse please tell me who you previously posted as! i cant work it out.

Naw, I'm into it. And I vote to leave pop metal in.

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How about if I answer your second question, which was a little more specific?

would you honestly say that they're one of the most rocking bands of the 80s?

Occasionally, yes, but maybe not according to the way that you framed it - records where "our fondness for them has everything to do with how much they rock." That strikes me as a bit of a tall order. Not everyone's going to be voting for Motorhead or something and most of the records on the list add something else to the equation.

"hesher music" seems like a good enough proxy for rock that would comfortably exclude REM, if that's the goal.

tim im quite happy for rem's rockiest tracks to be nominated in the tracks poll. But none of the 'big' songs seem appropriate. But im sure there will be suitable 'deep cuts' that qualify. If they dont then others will point it out.

hesheris an american term not used here but doesn't it just mean metal? because this is not a metal poll.

i think there's definitely a metal leaning but i feel like a hesher's spiral-bound notebook would also have zeppelin, ac/dc logos on it in ball point pen along with some dragons or a barbarian with a mace.

It's kind of a metal poll in the Stairway to Hell way.

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Definition of a 'rocking' band: One that might conceivably have done a "Johnny B Goode" cover version.

So, that even includes the Sex Pistols, by default.

like the closest an REM album cover comes to dragons or mace-wielding barbarians is monster, which is appropriately their most "rocking" album?

yeah but a lot would say their worst

Occasionally, yes, but maybe not according to the way that you framed it - records where "our fondness for them has everything to do with how much they rock." That strikes me as a bit of a tall order. Not everyone's going to be voting for Motorhead or something and most of the records on the list add something else to the equation.

how do R.E.M. rock in ways which have not been framed? also, this "tall order" is IMO the premise of the poll. and, yes, I agree that many of the bands add something else; often this something else takes the form of conceptual/creative aggression. that is to say, many of the "arty" bands in this list are aggressively, even violently, pushing against conventional rock forms, which is in and of itself scans as a "rock" gesture (aggressive anti-rock as rock, with Neubauten probably being the best example of a band that "rocks" in this fashion, although their inclusion, with a few notable exceptions, admittedly stretches the definition of rock being used).

Fables of the Reconstruction has a burning book and a weird swinging object with the image of an ear on it behind a curtain.

ok if hellhouse wont say who he is i just have to assume hes BJO

how do R.E.M. rock in ways which have not been framed?

No, I was just saying that their music is never rock in a really black and white sense, but that that's also true of most artists on the poll.

conceptual/creative aggressive that is employed sonically.

ugh, "aggression" not "aggressive", fuck it, I need a break.

Watching Patti Smith (band) on Rockpalast, rightnow.

They rocking band, question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM-IGFv-knI

"hesher music" seems like a good enough proxy for rock that would comfortably exclude REM, if that's the goal.

― Philip Nunez, Monday, August 20, 2012 3:56 PM (29 minutes ago)

doesn't really work here, cuz whatever definition we are using has to allow room for shit like swans, this heat, PIL, etc.

"hesher music" as enjoyed by a drug-addled metalhead with a taste for arty extremes

Definition of a 'rocking' band: One that might conceivably have done a "Johnny B Goode" cover version.

So, that even includes the Sex Pistols, by default.

― Mark G, Monday, August 20, 2012 4:02 PM (26 minutes ago)

this is pretty much my definition, sharpened to: "might conceivably have done a respectable 'johnny b goode' and have had it fit in comfortably with their own original material."

no embeds please
xps

ps tee-total non-drug taking metalhead with a taste for arty extremes here

dangit, sorry AG, i forgot

but it's pretty funny, so i'm only sort of sorry

well it stops others opening the thread who might nominate or want to take part in the discussion.

cursed tubes

always stopping all this discussion

its because on some computers the thread loads to slowly or crashes completely if there's lots of youtubes.

i know, AG, and will be good to the best of my (admittedly limited) ability

good

Anyone want to nominate anything?

Autopsy - Severed Survival
Reagan Youth - Volume 1

Zeni Geva - Maximum Love + Fuck

<b>Bad Religion - No Control</b>

Eh...Bad Religion - No Control

if y'all are still taking noms:
Nuclear Assault - Game Over
Stretchheads - Five Fingers, Four Thingers...
Caroliner Rainbow Hernia Milk Queen - Rear End Hernia Puppet Show
Caroliner Rainbow Stewed Angel Skins - I'm Armed With Quarts of Blood
Pussy Galore - Right Now!
David Thomas and the Pedestrians - The Sound of the Sand
Dog Faced Hermans Every Day Timebomb

yep,thanks!

bump

and again

Destruction - Eternal Devastation

Any more?

I think I'm done w/the albums, but I prob. have a few more tracks to add before Sat. (so plz don't close the poll early)

oh
rollins band - do it
nomeansno - you kill me

"hesher music" as enjoyed by a drug-addled metalhead with a taste for arty extremes

I was idly thinking that this could be seen perhaps as a sort of 'rock' that can be traced back to roots in Who/Kinks/Cream/Hendrix/Zeppelin/Sabbath as opposed to the traditional canon that would also include Buddy Holly, Dylan, the Byrds, the Band, (Beatles and Stones even?), etc. I think the noise and improv elements still make sense in this context.

If we're talking about why, say, Springsteen is excluded, though, then you would also have say that this is all to the exclusion of the historical lineage from the Brill Building and Phil Spector. If you frame it as "Buddy Holly, Dylan, the Byrds, the Band," I suppose it makes it seem like it's the soft stuff that's being excluded as precedents, but it seems to me that it's also Roy Orbison, Del Shannon, Bobby Fuller, etc.

I think we're basically talking about "hard rock" and its various offshoots. Wikipedia describes it pretty well:

Hard rock is a form of loud, aggressive rock music. The electric guitar is often emphasised, used with distortion and other effects, both as a rhythm instrument using repetitive riffs with a varying degree of complexity, and as a solo lead instrument.[2] Drumming characteristically focuses on driving rhythms, strong bass drum and a backbeat on snare, sometimes using cymbals for emphasis.[3] The bass guitar works in conjunction with the drums, occasionally playing riffs, but usually providing a backing for the rhythm and lead guitars.[4] Vocals are often growling, raspy, or involve screaming or wailing, sometimes in a high range, or even falsetto voice.[5] Hard rock has sometimes been labelled cock rock for its emphasis on overt masculinity and sexuality and because it has historically been predominately performed and consumed by men: in the case of its audience, particularly white, working-class adolescents.[3]

I still think the distinctions are more sociological than that. Like Buddy Holly is out but Carl Perkins is in because he sounds like more of a hillbilly. Doesn't have anything to do with how rocking their records are.

Perkins has more of a blues-influence I think. Hard rock has more of the blues, soft rock is more influenced by folk.

Perkins probably has more blues AND more country than Holly - so what? Holly is excluded for being more of an innovator? His records are just as rocking as Perkins', perhaps more. And they are based in blues and country, not in folk.

(Obviously, he made a couple of pop recordings with an arranger also. I'm talking about the Crickets records.)

A reminder that Buddy Holly is not actually being excluded but is not present because he was not alive or recording music in the 1980s...

I'm not that familiar with Holly to tell the truth. If he's more blues-oriented then I think he's in that lineage too.

and carl perkins is more of a line-straddler anyway. i'd frame it as buddy holly vs. chuck berry & jerry lee lewis, both of whom rock in a much more aggressive fashion.

Of '80s artists, I think someone like John Cougar Mellencamp, whom I mentioned before, is a borderline case. Clearly he had pop crossover appeal, but he also rocked pretty emphatically and had a strong blues influence. So I'm not sure what the call would be on him. Or Bon Jovi for that matter.

like, it's not just rocking vs not, the vibe being put across is important, too. at their most extreme, berry & lewis made raw, aggressive and libidinal music. it still sounds like bombs going off. maybe it's hard to hear the connection today, but i think of "great balls of fire" as the first punk rock song i ever really loved. there wasn't wasn't as much visceral threat or sexual swagger in buddy holly's rock.

I don't hear Chuck Berry as being much more aggressive than Holly. Bo Diddley certainly wasn't!

Yeah, the vocals are important. They should swagger a bit. Frank Sinatra could be pretty punk rock too.

subjective, of course. i do. (xp)

same probably applies to mellcamp and bon jovi. the sense of danger and violence in their music is very tame down compared with the metal, punk and hard rock of the era.

I'm not sure I agree. Some of the more extreme bands end up trying too hard, IMO. They sound more cartoonish than actually dangerous.

The criteria do largely seem sonic to me but I'm pretty sure that framing it in terms of whether or not something 'rocks' will only lead us in circles. I do think that the bands I listed make sense as reference points in terms of prior influences/sources. I don't know that as much can be gained by tracing it back to the 50s, actually. (I can see a line from Who/Hendrix to Sonic Youth without too much difficulty but it gets blurrier if we start talking about Buddy Holly vs Chuck Berry.)

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I AM very surprised that someone wouldn't hear Chuck Berry's sound as more aggressive than Buddy Holly's though!

The thing is, the Gories are allowed in the poll and the Jam are not.

I don't hear Chuck Berry as being much more aggressive than Holly. Bo Diddley certainly wasn't!

holly was ingratiating. he asked for a lady's hand and heart. he was nice about it, for the most part. he didn't often attack the beat with the ferocity that berry brings to "maybelline" and "johnny b. goode". he didn't sing about his ding-a-ling. he didn't wear a cobra snake for a necktie.

"Johnny B. Goode" hangs back in the pocket, I think. It's not that aggressive. "Maybellene" is jaunty.

I think Holly made some pretty tough rockabilly with numbers like "That'll Be the Day" and "Oh Boy."

To get technical, Berry's guitar style also emphasized parallel motion (even in lead playing) with an overdriven sound, which you can see as a direct antecedent of power-chord riffing.

I was idly thinking that this could be seen perhaps as a sort of 'rock' that can be traced back to roots in Who/Kinks/Cream/Hendrix/Zeppelin/Sabbath as opposed to the traditional canon that would also include Buddy Holly, Dylan, the Byrds, the Band, (Beatles and Stones even?), etc. I think the noise and improv elements still make sense in this context.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:15 PM (1 hour ago)

sund4r otm. also that it's probably a mistake to get caught up in hashing out the rockingness of 50s shit. the vision of rock that organizes this poll does seem descended from the late 60s and especially the 70s: a combination of masculinity, aggression, intensity, noise, experimentation, and aspiration to the status of art.

plus 70s punk + 80s metal

But, really, if you hear "Oh Boy" as equally or more aggressive than "Johnny B. Goode", I'm not sure how to convince you tbh.

xpost to self

Part of my point was that 70s punk and 80s metal BOTH seem to owe something to the influences I cited.

yeah, agree - was just extending forward from the late 60s/early-mid 70s examples

I think "Johnny B. Goode" is fairly subtle, really. He plays muted rhythm guitar, it hangs back in the pocket, etc. I mean, sure, there's some raunch in the leads. The Crickets had some raunch as well.

He projects more as a singer, too.

(Berry, that is.)

In any case, contenderizer was right re what I was getting at:

also that it's probably a mistake to get caught up in hashing out the rockingness of 50s shit. the vision of rock that organizes this poll does seem descended from the late 60s and especially the 70s: a combination of masculinity, aggression, intensity, noise, experimentation, and aspiration to the status of art

Comparing the versions of "Brown Eyed Handsome Man" by Berry and Holly is interesting, by the way. There doesn't seem to be any notable distinction with regard to how much either version rocks. Berry sings it with more of a croon, actually, while Holly has his rockabilly singing style. Berry's version swings a little more, but Holly's is faster.

hehe what a strange diversion

bump

closes sunday night 11.59pm now. if a kindly mod could change both thread titles that would be awesome.

You want it changed from midnight to 11:59 p.m.?

yes please! Just so everyone knows it finishes sat night now instead of sunday morning.

Thanks very much WmC and sorry to be a nuisance

sunday night it finishes now i mean haha

Current thread title is "Sunday night midnight" -- you want a one minute change?

A whole minute?

yes because it looked like it finished 24 hours earlier

thanks!

that's insane

what, letting ppl know the nominations have been extended 24 hours?

agk, you're sure you've never done any drugs?

...but who am i to say

ALBUMS THAT ROCK:

The Reverb Motherfuckers - Route 666
The Honeymoon Killers - Turn Me On

oh, I see where you got that idea

just so we're on the same page, this closes in roughly 9 hours, right?

― Hellhouse, Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:26 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah will make it tomorrow night

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, August 25, 2012 2:29 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

BLAME HELLHOUSE!

yes, that is exactly why I asked

hellhouse is a shit-stirrer

and he wont tell anyone who he is

one minute?!?!

no, 23 hours and 59 minutes ACTUALLY

Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry

Think we're lacking a bit in noisy indie rock/pigfuck type stuff.

Sonny Sharrock Band - Seize the Rainbow

no one likes that stuff

lol, pig fuckery, not sonny sharrock

(was on the Aug 1 list but not the most recent list.)

Also, someone nominated Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation but it does not show up on the most recent list.)

(xpost to self re Seize the Rainbow)

ahh ok. need to fix it

bump

8 Eyed Spy - s/t
Bitch Magnet - Star Booty
Dustdevils - Gutterlight
Dustdevils - Is Big Leggy
Primitive Calculators - s/t
Sonic Youth - The Walls Have Ears

keep em coming

Morsure - Acceleration Process

Is "pigfuck" just a catchall for the noisy end of 80s indie: Big Black, Buttholes, Scratch Acid, Jesus Lizard, ...?

Except for straight-up 80s hc shit, the music covered by this poll lines up pretty well with my own tastes and personal listening history in 80s guitar rck.

rock

Algerian-

prob. no one cares, but this rec that I nominated-

F/i - Out of Space and Out of Time

should be taken off. it came out in ’93, and I don’t really think the contenderizer/Avengers rule applies, tbh.

if you could add this instead -

F/i - Why Not Now? Alan!

thx

/stupid list shit

Thanks to all who nominated. Nominations are now closed
however I need to clean up the spreadsheet and double-check everything so if anyone didn't see this thread or has late nominations then you have 30 mins (5pm UK time)

Do we allow The Cure - Pornography?

im a bit more open to allowing it now tbh. If jf can show me a rocking track from the 1st pretenders i'll allow them too

if there's a rocking Siouxsie album i'll include it too

no springsteen (who i love) or petty though.

and fuck it, Murmur is in

unless there's a more rocking rem

im a bit more open to allowing it now tbh. If jf can show me a rocking track from the 1st pretenders i'll allow them too

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, August 27, 2012 12:20 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UaDlZr_Crs

i've included it anyway but thanks.

any excuse to rep for that song tbh

I added Fables of the Reconstruction instead of murmur since someone nominated it

Haha, after all of that, the moodiest REM album makes it in?

If i allow a U2
should it be Boy or War

Why open it up now after restricting things so much during the nomination process? And if you're thinking of allowing REM, U2, and the Cure, why not also just throw in Springsteen, Petty, the Police, etc?

think AG is just trying to be fair, and there's no cause to re-do the whole nominations process. including most everything that did get nominated seems like a reasonable compromise.

if people are gonna cause a fuss i will remove them all. so dont spoil my good mood, ok?

I just hope that those who do vote for these albums will do large ballots and vote for plenty of noisy/heavier stuff too. It's important the results just aren't a rolling stone doppelgänger poll.

no offense, but i think you need to show a little more faith in the electorate

Right, this is what we have as of now.

7 Seconds - Walk Together, Rock Together
8 Eyed Spy - s/t
AC/DC - Back in Black
Adolescents - Adolescents
Aerosmith - Pump
Agent Orange - Living in Darkness
Alice Donut - Bucketfulls of Sickness and Horror in an Otherwise Meaningless Life
Amebix - Arise
Amebix - Monolith
Angry Samoans - Back From Samoa
Annihilator -Alice In Hell
Anthrax - Among The Living
Anthrax- Spreading The Disease
Appliances-SFB - SFB
Atheist - Piece Of Time
Autopsy - Severed Survival
Avengers - Avengers
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Bad Brains - I Against I
Bad Brains - s/t
Bad Religion - No Control
Bad Religion - Suffer
Band of Susans - Love Agenda
Band of Susans- Hope Against Hope
Bastro - Diablo Guapo
Bathory - Blood Fire Death
Bathory - Under The Sign Of The Black Mark
Bauhaus - Burning From The Inside
Bauhaus - In The Flat Field
Bauhaus - Mask
Bauhaus - The Sky'S Gone Out
Big Black - Atomizer
Big Black - Songs About Fucking
Big Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's Club
Billy Idol - Rebel Yell
Birthday Party - Junkyard
Bitch Magnet - Star Booty
Bitch Magnet - Umber
Black Flag - Damaged
Black Flag - In My Head
Black Flag - Jealous Again
Black Flag - My War
Black Flag - Slip It In
Black Sabbath - Heaven And Hell
Black Sabbath - Mob Rules
Blind Idiot God - s/t
Blind Idiot God - Undertow
Blue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus Erectus
Bolt Thrower - Realm Of Chaos
Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet
Boredoms - Soul Discharge
Butthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To Live
Butthole Surfers - Hairway to Steven
Butthole Surfers - Locust Abortion Technician
Butthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S Sac
Butthole Surfers - Rembrandt Pussyhorse
Candlemass - Ancient Dreams
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Candlemass - Tales Of Creation
Candlemass -Nightfall
Capt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar Station
Capt Beefheart - Ice Cream for Crow
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
Caroliner Rainbow Hernia Milk Queen - Rear End Hernia Puppet Show
Caroliner Rainbow Stewed Angel Skins - I'm Armed With Quarts of Blood
Celibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of Existence
Celtic Frost - Into the Pandemonium
Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Cheap Trick - One On One
Christian Death - Only Theatre of Pain
Chrome - Blood on the Moon
Chrome - Red Exposure
Chrome - Third From the Sun
Circle Jerks - Group Sex
Cirith Ungol - Frost and Fire
Cirith Ungol - King Of The Dead
Coil - Horse Rotorvator
Coil- Scatology
Condemned to Death - Diary of a Love Monster
Cop Shoot Cop - Headkick Facsimile
Coroner - No More Color
Coroner - Punishment for Decadence
Coroner - R.I.P.
Corrosion of Conformity - Animosity
Cosmic Psychos - Go the Hack
Couch Potatoes - Curiosity Rocks
Cows - daddy has a tail
Cramps - Psychedelic Jungle
Cramps - Smell Of Female
Cramps - Songs The Lord Taught Us
Crash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13
Crass - christ - the album
Crass - Penis Envy
Crass - Yes Sir I Will
Cro-Mags - Best Wishes
Cro-Mags - The Age of Quarrel
Cryptic Slaughter - Money Talks
Current 93 - Dogs Blood Rising
D.R.I. - Crossover
D.R.I. - Dealing With It
DAF - Die Kleinen und die Bosen
Dag Nasty - Can I Say
Danzig - Danzig
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Das Damen - Mousetrap
Das Damen - Triskaidekaphobe
David Thomas and the Pedestrians - The Sound of the Sand
Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten Vegetables
Dead Milkmen - Beelzebubba
Death - Leprosy
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
Death Angel - The Ultra-Violence
Death in June - Brown Book
Death In June - Nada
Death in June - The Guilty Have No Pride
Death In June - The World That Summer
Def Leppard - High N Dry
Def Leppard - Hysteria
Def Leppard - On Through the Night
Def Leppard - Pyromania
Descendents - I Don't Want to Grow Up
Descendents - Milo Goes To College
Destruction - Eternal Devastation
Diamond Head - Lightning to the Nations
Didjits - Hey Judester
Die Kreuzen - S/T
Died Pretty - Free Dirt
Dinosaur - S/T
Dinosaur Jr - Bug
Dinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over Me
Dio - Holy Diver
Dio - Last In Line
Discharge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing
DNA - A Taste of DNA
Dog Faced Hermans - Humans Fly
Dog Faced Hermans Every Day Timebomb
Dogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet Saloon
Dream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and Roses
Drunks with Guns - Drunks with Guns
Dustdevils - Gutterlight
Dustdevils - Is Big Leggy
Dwarves - Horror Stories
Dwarves - Tooling for a Warm Teabag
Echo & The Bunnymen - Crocodiles
Einsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of Ot
Einsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen Richterskala
Einsturzende Neubauten - Halber Mensch
Einsturzende Neubauten – Haus der Lüge
Einsturzende Neubauten - Kollaps
Electro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead One
Embrace - Embrace
English Dogs - Forward Into Battle
Exciter - Long Live the Loud
Exodus - Bonded By Blood
Exodus - Fabulous Disaster
Extreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your Head
F/I - Space Mantra
F/i - Why Not Now? Alan!
Faith No More - Introduce Yourself
Faith No More - The Real Thing
Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry
Fear - The Record
Fields Of The Nephilim - The Nephilim
Fire Party - s/t
fIREHOSE - Ragin', Full On
Fishbone - Truth and Soul
Flesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To Die
Flipper - Generic Flipper
Foetus Interruptus - Thaw
Fugazi - Fugazi
Fugazi - Margin Walker
Fushitsusha - Live I
Game Theory - Big Shot Chronicles
George Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the Bone
Giant Sand - Valley Of Rain
Girl Trouble - Hit It or Quit It
Girlschool - Demolition
Girlschool - Hit And Run
Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1
Glenn Branca - The Ascension
Godflesh - Streetcleaner
Gore - Mean Man’s Dream
Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today
Green On Red - Gas Food Lodging
Grong Grong - S/T
Guess Papers - We Got 'Em
Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Halo of Flies - Garbageburn
Halo Of Flies - Singles Going Nowhere
Hanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks
Happy Go Licky - S/T
Head Of David - Dustbowl
Head Of David - Head Of David
Helios Creed - Superior Catholic Finger
Helios Creed - The Last Laugh
Hellhammer - Apocalyptic Raids
Hellhammer - Satanic Rites
Husker Du - Candy Apple Grey
Husker Du - Flip Your Wig
Husker Du - Metal Circus
Husker Du - New day Rising
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Icons of Filth - Onward Christian Soldiers
Iggy Pop - Instinct
Ike Yard - s/t
Iron Maiden - Killers
Iron Maiden - Number Of The Beast
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Iron Maiden - s/t
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
Jim Carroll Band - Catholic Boy
Joan Jett - Bad reputation
Jon Wayne - Texas Funeral
Journey - Departure
Journey - Escape
Judas Priest - British Steel
Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith
Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
Killdozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling Elite
Killdozer - Intellectuals Are the Shoeshine Boys of the Ruling Elite
Killdozer - Snake Boy
Killing Joke - Killing Joke
Killing Joke - Night Time
Killing Joke - What's THIS For...!
Kilslug - Answer The Call
King Crimson - Discipline
King Diamond - Abigail
Kix - Blow My Fuse
Kix - s/t
Kreator - Pleasure To Kill
Last Exit - Köln
Lazy Cowgirls - Tapping the Source
Lemonheads - Hate Your Friends
Lime Spiders - Headcleaner
Lita Ford - Out For Blood
Live Skull - Bringing Home The Bait
Live Skull - Cloud One
Live Skull - Don't Get Any on You
Live Skull - Dusted
Live Skull - S/T
Living Colour - Vivid
Loop - Black Sun
Loop - Fade Out
Loop - Heaven's End
Loop - The World in Your Eyes
Loverboy - Get Lucky
Lubricated Goat - Paddock Of Love
Lyres - Lyres Lyres
Macabre - Gloom
Manilla Road - Crystal Logic
Manilla Road - Open The Gates
Manilla Road - The Deluge
Manowar - Fighting The World
Manowar - Sign of the Hammer
Mars - 78
Massacre - Killing Time
Masters Of Reality- Masters Of Reality
Mayhem - Deathcrush
MDC - Millions of Dead Cops
Meat Puppets - Huevos
Meat Puppets - Monster
Meat Puppets - Up On The Sun
Meat Puppets- II
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!
Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?
Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So What
Melvins - Gluey Porch Treatments
Melvins - Ozma
Mercyful Fate - Dont Break The Oath
Mercyful Fate - Melissa
Metallica - ...And Justice For All
Metallica - Kill 'Em All
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Metallica - Ride The Lightning
Ministry - The Land of Rape and Honey
Ministry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
Ministry - Twitch
Minor Threat - Minor Threat
Minor Threat - out of step
Minutemen - Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat
Minutemen – Double Nickels on the Dime
Minutemen - The Punch Line
Minutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?
Misfits - Beware
Misfits - Earth Ad
Misfits - Legacy Of Brutality
Mission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and Marches
Mission of Burma - Vs.
Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On Dope
Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness
Morsure - Acceleration Process
Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood
Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil
Motley Crue - Too Fast For Love
Motorhead - Ace of Spades
Motorhead - Another Perfect Day
Motorhead - Orgasmatron
Mudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff
MX-80 Sound - Out Of The Tunnel
My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
Naked City - Naked City
Naked City - Torture Garden
Naked Raygun - Jettison
Naked Raygun - Throb Throb
Napalm Death - From Enslavement To Obliteration
Napalm Death - Scum
Neil Young - Freedom
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*Tor
Neurosis - Pain of Mind
New Model Army - No Rest for the Wicked
Nick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is Dead
Nick Cave + the Bad Seeds - From Her to Eternity
Nick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My Trial
Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
Nirvana - Bleach
Nitzer Ebb - Showtime
No Trend ‎– When Death Won'T Solve Your Problem
NoMeansNo - Wrong
Nuclear Assault - Game Over
Nurse With Wound - Homotopy To Marie
Nurse With Wound - Soliloquy for Lilith
Obituary - Slowly We Rot
Operation Ivy - Energy
Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard Of Oz
Ozzy Osbourne - Diary Of A Madman
Pagan Altar - Pagan Altar
Pagans - Buried Alive
Pantera - Power Metal
Paul Chain - In The Darkness
Paul Chain - Violet Art Of Improvisation
Paul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EP
Pentagram - Day Of Reckoning
Pentagram - Pentagram
pil - flowers of romance
Pixies - Come On Pilgrim
Pixies - Doolittle
Pixies - Surfer Rosa
Plasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984
plugz - better luck
Poison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!
Poison Idea - Kings of Punk
Pop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder
Possessed - Seven Churches
Primitive Calculators - s/t
Primus - Suck On This
Prong - Force Fed
Prong - Primitive Origins
Psychedelic Furs - Talk Talk Talk
Psychic TV - A Pagan Day
Psychic TV - Mouth of the Night
Pussy Galore - Dial 'M' for Motherfucker
Pussy Galore - Right Now!
Pussy Galore - Sugarshit Sharp
Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
Radio Birdman - Living Eyes
Raging Slab - Raging Slab
Ramones - End of the Century
Rapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack Mule
Raw Power - Screams From the Gutter
Reagan Youth - Volume 1
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky Styley
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers Milk
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party Plan
Redd Kross - Neurotica
REM - Fables of the Reconstruction
Repulsion - Horrified
Rhys Chatham - Die Donnergotter
Rites Of Spring - End on End
Royal Trux - Royal Trux
Rudimentary Peni - Death Church
Rush - Moving Pictures
Saccharine Trust - Pagan Icons
Saccharine Trust-Surviving You, Always
Sacrifice - Forward To Termination
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late
Saint Vitus - Saint Vitus
Saint Vitus - V
Samhain - Initium
Samhain - November-Coming-Fire
Sarcófago - I.N.R.I.
Sarcófago - Rotting
Saxon - Denim & Leather
Saxon - Strong Arm Of The law
Saxon - Wheels Of Steel
Scientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On Love
Scientists - Weird Love
Scorpions - Love At First Sting
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel - Hole
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel – Nail
Scratch Acid - Just Keep Eating
Scratch Acid - s/t
Scream - No More Censorship
Scream - Still Screaming
Scream - This Side Up
Screaming Trees - Buzz Factory
Screaming Trees - Even If & Especially When
Septic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains
Shudder To Think - Curses, Spells, Voodoo, Mooses
Sick Of It All - Blood , Sweat, and No Tears
Sisters Of Mercy - First And Last And Always
Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
Skid Row - Skid Row
Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And Manipulate
Skinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse
Skinny Puppy - VIVIsectVI
Skullflower - Form Destroyer
Slayer - Hell Awaits
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Slayer - South Of Heaven
Slint - Tweez
Slovenly - We Shoot For the Moon
Snakefinger - Greener Postures
Snatches of Pink - Dead Men
Social Distortion - Mommy's Little Monster
Social Distortion - Prison Bound
Sodom - Agent Orange
Sonic Youth - Bad Moon Rising
Sonic Youth - Confusion Is Sex
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
Sonic Youth - Evol
Sonic Youth - Sister
Sonic Youth - The Walls Have Ears
Sonny Sharrock - Guitar
Sonny Sharrock Band - Seize the Rainbow
Sore Throat - Death to Capitalist Hardcore
Soul Asylum - Hang Time
Soundgarden - Louder Than Love
Soundgarden - Ultra Mega OK
Spacemen 3 - Playing With Fire
Spacemen 3 - Sound of Confusion
Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription
SPK - Auto-Da-Fe
Squirrel Bait - Skag Heaven
Squirrel Bait - Squirrel Bait
Steve Jones - Fire and Gasoline
Stiff Little Fingers - Nobody's Heroes
Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or Die
Stretchheads - Five Fingers, Four Thingers...
Suicidal Tendencies - S/T
Suicide - Half Alive
Swans - Children Of God
Swans - Cop
Swans - Filth
Swans - Public Castration Is A Good Idea
Swans - S/T
Swans - Young God
Swell Maps - ...In "Jane From Occupied Europe"
Tank - Filth Hounds Of Hades
Terrorizer - World Downfall
Test Dept. - Ecstacy Under Duress
Testament - The Legacy
Testament - The New Order
The Afghan Whigs - Big Top Halloween
The Birthday Party - Prayers on Fire
The Comsat Angels - Sleep No More
The Comsat Angels - Waiting For A Miracle
The Crucifucks - s/t
The Cult - Electric
The Cult - Love
The Cult - Sonic Temple
The Cynics - Blue Train Station
The Damned - The Black Album
The Ex - 1936 spanish revolution
The Fall - Hex Enduction Houir
The Fall - Perverted by Language
The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace
The Fluid - Clear Black Paper
The Fuzztones - Lysergic Emanations
The Gories - House Rockin'
The Gun Club - Fire of Love
The Gun Club - The Las Vegas Story
The Honeymoon Killers - Turn Me On
The Jesus And Mary Chain - Automatic
The Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy
The Jesus Lizard - Pure
The Left - Hell It's the Earth
The Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our Madness
The Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!
The Misfits - Walk Among Us
The Nomads - Outburst
The Pretenders - Pretenders II
The Primitives - Lazy 86-88
The Ramones - Pleasant Dreams
The Replacements - Hootenanny
The Replacements - Let It Be
The Replacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The Trash
The Replacements - Tim
The Reverb Motherfuckers - Route 666
The Scientists - Blood Red River
The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Gunshy
The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally Religious
The Sound -Jeopardy
The Telescopes - Taste
The Wedding Present - Bizarro
Thee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock Explosion
Thin Lizzy - Thunder and Lightning
Thin White Rope - Moonhead
This Heat - Deceit
Three Johns - Atom Drum Bop
Throwing Muses - s/t
Throwing Muses - The Real Ramona
Tin Machine - Tin Machine
Trouble - Psalm 9
Trouble - The Skull
TSOL - Change Today?
Twisted Sister - Stay Hungry
U2 - Boy
Union Carbide Productions - In the Air Tonight
Urge Overkill - Jesus Urge Superstar
Ut - Conviction
Van Halen - 1984
Van Halen - Women and Children First
Venom - Black Metal
Venom - Possessed
Venom - Welcome to Hell
Vio-lence -Eternal Nightmare
Void/Faith Split LP
Voivod - Dimension Hatross
Voivod - Killing Technology
Voivod - Nothingface
Warrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich
WASP - WASP
Whitesnake - Slip of the Tongue
Whitesnake - Whitesnake
Wipers - Is This Real
Wipers - Over The Edge
Wipers - Youth Of America
Witchfinder General - Death Penalty
Wolfhounds - Bright & Guilty
X - Los Angeles
X - Wild Gift
Y&T - Open Fire
Young Gods - L'eau Rouge
Young Gods - s/t
Youth Of Today - Break Down The Walls
Youth Of Today - We're Not In This Alone
Zeni Geva - Maximum Love + Fuck
Zero Boys - Vicious Circle
Zoogz Rift - Amputees in Limbo
ZZ Top - Eliminator

If there's anything been missed out or is not from the 1980s please let me know before I email the list to seandalai.
Once he has set up the voting form I will start a new thread.
But obviously you can start on your ballots shortlist now (minimum 15 albums maximum 50)

The voting thread is of course for repping albums but youtubes wont be allowed, so if someone wants to go ahead and start a youtube thread that's fine.

I need to sort out the tracks list now.

erm... mist two of mine which were:
rollins band - do it
nomeansno - you kill me.

think AG is just trying to be fair, and there's no cause to re-do the whole nominations process. including most everything that did get nominated seems like a reasonable compromise.

Right, in this case, the REM and U2 albums that were actually nominated were Life's Rich Pageant and The Joshua Tree iirc.

are they albums or tracks?

updated
7 Seconds - Walk Together, Rock Together
8 Eyed Spy - S/T
AC/DC - Back in Black
Adolescents - Adolescents
Aerosmith - Pump
Agent Orange - Living in Darkness
Alice Donut - Bucketfulls of Sickness and Horror in an Otherwise Meaningless Life
Amebix - Arise
Amebix - Monolith
Angry Samoans - Back From Samoa
Annihilator -Alice In Hell
Anthrax - Among The Living
Anthrax - Spreading The Disease
Appliances - SFB - SFB
Atheist - Piece Of Time
Autopsy - Severed Survival
Avengers - Avengers
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Bad Brains - I Against I
Bad Brains - S/T
Bad Religion - No Control
Bad Religion - Suffer
Band of Susans - Hope Against Hope
Band of Susans - Love Agenda
Bastro - Diablo Guapo
Bathory - Blood Fire Death
Bathory - Under The Sign Of The Black Mark
Bauhaus - Burning From The Inside
Bauhaus - In The Flat Field
Bauhaus - Mask
Bauhaus - The Sky'S Gone Out
Big Black - Atomizer
Big Black - Songs About Fucking
Big Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's Club
Billy Idol - Rebel Yell
Birthday Party - Junkyard
Bitch Magnet - Star Booty
Bitch Magnet - Umber
Black Flag - Damaged
Black Flag - In My Head
Black Flag - Jealous Again
Black Flag - My War
Black Flag - Slip It In
Black Sabbath - Heaven And Hell
Black Sabbath - Mob Rules
Blind Idiot God - S/T
Blind Idiot God - Undertow
Blue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus Erectus
Bolt Thrower - Realm Of Chaos
Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet
Boredoms - Soul Discharge
Butthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To Live
Butthole Surfers - Hairway to Steven
Butthole Surfers - Locust Abortion Technician
Butthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S Sac
Butthole Surfers - Rembrandt Pussyhorse
Candlemass - Ancient Dreams
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Candlemass - Nightfall
Candlemass - Tales Of Creation
Capt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar Station
Capt Beefheart - Ice Cream for Crow
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
Caroliner Rainbow Hernia Milk Queen - Rear End Hernia Puppet Show
Caroliner Rainbow Stewed Angel Skins - I'm Armed With Quarts of Blood
Celibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of Existence
Celtic Frost - Into the Pandemonium
Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Cheap Trick - One On One
Christian Death - Only Theatre of Pain
Chrome - Blood on the Moon
Chrome - Red Exposure
Chrome - Third From the Sun
Circle Jerks - Group Sex
Cirith Ungol - Frost and Fire
Cirith Ungol - King Of The Dead
Coil - Horse Rotorvator
Coil- Scatology
Condemned to Death - Diary of a Love Monster
Cop Shoot Cop - Headkick Facsimile
Coroner - No More Color
Coroner - Punishment for Decadence
Coroner - R.I.P.
Corrosion of Conformity - Animosity
Cosmic Psychos - Go the Hack
Couch Potatoes - Curiosity Rocks
Cows - daddy has a tail
Cramps - Psychedelic Jungle
Cramps - Smell Of Female
Cramps - Songs The Lord Taught Us
Crash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13
Crass - Christ - the album
Crass - Penis Envy
Crass - Yes Sir I Will
Cro-Mags - Best Wishes
Cro-Mags - The Age of Quarrel
Cryptic Slaughter - Money Talks
Current 93 - Dogs Blood Rising
D.R.I. - Crossover
D.R.I. - Dealing With It
DAF - Die Kleinen und die Bosen
Dag Nasty - Can I Say
Danzig - Danzig
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Das Damen - Mousetrap
Das Damen - Triskaidekaphobe
David Thomas and the Pedestrians - The Sound of the Sand
Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten Vegetables
Dead Milkmen - Beelzebubba
Death - Leprosy
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
Death Angel - The Ultra-Violence
Death In June - Brown Book
Death In June - Nada
Death In June - The Guilty Have No Pride
Death In June - The World That Summer
Def Leppard - High N Dry
Def Leppard - Hysteria
Def Leppard - On Through the Night
Def Leppard - Pyromania
Descendents - I Don't Want to Grow Up
Descendents - Milo Goes To College
Destruction - Eternal Devastation
Diamond Head - Lightning to the Nations
Didjits - Hey Judester
Die Kreuzen - S/T
Died Pretty - Free Dirt
Dinosaur - S/T
Dinosaur Jr - Bug
Dinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over Me
Dio - Holy Diver
Dio - Last In Line
Discharge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing
DNA - A Taste of DNA
Dog Faced Hermans - Humans Fly
Dog Faced Hermans Every Day Timebomb
Dogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet Saloon
Dream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and Roses
Drunks with Guns - Drunks with Guns
Dustdevils - Gutterlight
Dustdevils - Is Big Leggy
Dwarves - Horror Stories
Dwarves - Tooling for a Warm Teabag
Echo & The Bunnymen - Crocodiles
Einsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of Ot
Einsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen Richterskala
Einsturzende Neubauten - Halber Mensch
Einsturzende Neubauten – Haus der Lüge
Einsturzende Neubauten - Kollaps
Electro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead One
Embrace - Embrace
English Dogs - Forward Into Battle
Exciter - Long Live the Loud
Exodus - Bonded By Blood
Exodus - Fabulous Disaster
Extreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your Head
F/I - Space Mantra
F/i - Why Not Now? Alan!
Faith No More - Introduce Yourself
Faith No More - The Real Thing
Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry
Fear - The Record
Fields Of The Nephilim - The Nephilim
Fire Party - s/t
fIREHOSE - Ragin', Full On
Fishbone - Truth and Soul
Flesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To Die
Flipper - Generic Flipper
Foetus Interruptus - Thaw
Fugazi - Fugazi
Fugazi - Margin Walker
Fushitsusha - Live I
Game Theory - Big Shot Chronicles
George Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the Bone
Giant Sand - Valley Of Rain
Girl Trouble - Hit It or Quit It
Girlschool - Demolition
Girlschool - Hit And Run
Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1
Glenn Branca - The Ascension
Godflesh - Streetcleaner
Gore - Mean Man’s Dream
Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today
Green On Red - Gas Food Lodging
Grong Grong - S/T
Guess Papers - We Got 'Em
Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Halo of Flies - Garbageburn
Halo Of Flies - Singles Going Nowhere
Hanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks
Happy Go Licky - S/T
Head Of David - Dustbowl
Head Of David - Head Of David
Helios Creed - Superior Catholic Finger
Helios Creed - The Last Laugh
Hellhammer - Apocalyptic Raids
Hellhammer - Satanic Rites
Husker Du - Candy Apple Grey
Husker Du - Flip Your Wig
Husker Du - Metal Circus
Husker Du - New day Rising
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Icons of Filth - Onward Christian Soldiers
Iggy Pop - Instinct
Ike Yard - s/t
Iron Maiden - Killers
Iron Maiden - Number Of The Beast
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Iron Maiden - s/t
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
Jim Carroll Band - Catholic Boy
Joan Jett - Bad reputation
Jon Wayne - Texas Funeral
Journey - Departure
Journey - Escape
Judas Priest - British Steel
Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith
Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
Keiji Haino- Watashi Dake
Killdozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling Elite
Killdozer - Intellectuals Are the Shoeshine Boys of the Ruling Elite
Killdozer - Snake Boy
Killing Joke - Killing Joke
Killing Joke - Night Time
Killing Joke - What's THIS For...!
Kilslug - Answer The Call
King Crimson - Discipline
King Diamond - Abigail
Kix - Blow My Fuse
Kix - s/t
Kreator - Pleasure To Kill
Last Exit - Köln
Lazy Cowgirls - Tapping the Source
Lemonheads - Hate Your Friends
Lime Spiders - Headcleaner
Lita Ford - Out For Blood
Live Skull - Bringing Home The Bait
Live Skull - Cloud One
Live Skull - Don't Get Any on You
Live Skull - Dusted
Live Skull - S/T
Living Colour - Vivid
Loop - Black Sun
Loop - Fade Out
Loop - Heaven's End
Loop - The World in Your Eyes
Loverboy - Get Lucky
Lubricated Goat - Paddock Of Love
Lyres - Lyres Lyres
Macabre - Gloom
Manilla Road - Crystal Logic
Manilla Road - Open The Gates
Manilla Road - The Deluge
Manowar - Fighting The World
Manowar - Sign of the Hammer
Mars - 78
Massacre - Killing Time
Masters Of Reality- Masters Of Reality
Mayhem - Deathcrush
MDC - Millions of Dead Cops
Meat Puppets - Huevos
Meat Puppets - Monster
Meat Puppets - Up On The Sun
Meat Puppets- II
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!
Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?
Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So What
Melvins - Gluey Porch Treatments
Melvins - Ozma
Mercyful Fate - Dont Break The Oath
Mercyful Fate - Melissa
Metallica - ...And Justice For All
Metallica - Kill 'Em All
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Metallica - Ride The Lightning
Ministry - The Land of Rape and Honey
Ministry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
Ministry - Twitch
Minor Threat - Minor Threat
Minor Threat - out of step
Minutemen - Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat
Minutemen – Double Nickels on the Dime
Minutemen - The Punch Line
Minutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?
Misfits - Beware
Misfits - Earth Ad
Misfits - Legacy Of Brutality
Mission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and Marches
Mission of Burma - Vs.
Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On Dope
Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness
Morsure - Acceleration Process
Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood
Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil
Motley Crue - Too Fast For Love
Motorhead - Ace of Spades
Motorhead - Another Perfect Day
Motorhead - Orgasmatron
Mudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff
MX-80 Sound - Out Of The Tunnel
My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
Naked City - Naked City
Naked City - Torture Garden
Naked Raygun - Jettison
Naked Raygun - Throb Throb
Napalm Death - From Enslavement To Obliteration
Napalm Death - Scum
Neil Young - Freedom
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*Tor
Neurosis - Pain of Mind
New Model Army - No Rest for the Wicked
Nick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is Dead
Nick Cave + the Bad Seeds - From Her to Eternity
Nick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My Trial
Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
Nirvana - Bleach
Nitzer Ebb - Showtime
No Trend ‎– When Death Won'T Solve Your Problem
NoMeansNo - Wrong
Nomeansno - You Kill Me
Nuclear Assault - Game Over
Nurse With Wound - Homotopy To Marie
Nurse With Wound - Soliloquy for Lilith
Obituary - Slowly We Rot
Operation Ivy - Energy
Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard Of Oz
Ozzy Osbourne - Diary Of A Madman
Pagan Altar - Pagan Altar
Pagans - Buried Alive
Pantera - Power Metal
Paul Chain - In The Darkness
Paul Chain - Violet Art Of Improvisation
Paul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EP
Pentagram - Day Of Reckoning
Pentagram - Pentagram
pil - flowers of romance
Pixies - Come On Pilgrim
Pixies - Doolittle
Pixies - Surfer Rosa
Plasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984
plugz - better luck
Poison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!
Poison Idea - Kings of Punk
Pop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder
Possessed - Seven Churches
Primitive Calculators - s/t
Primus - Suck On This
Prong - Force Fed
Prong - Primitive Origins
Psychedelic Furs - Talk Talk Talk
Psychic TV - A Pagan Day
Psychic TV - Mouth of the Night
Pussy Galore - Dial 'M' for Motherfucker
Pussy Galore - Right Now!
Pussy Galore - Sugarshit Sharp
Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
Radio Birdman - Living Eyes
Raging Slab - Raging Slab
Ramones - End of the Century
Rapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack Mule
Raw Power - Screams From the Gutter
Reagan Youth - Volume 1
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky Styley
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers Milk
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party Plan
Redd Kross - Neurotica
REM - Fables of the Reconstruction
Repulsion - Horrified
Rhys Chatham - Die Donnergotter
Rites Of Spring - End on End
Rollins Band - Do It
Royal Trux - Royal Trux
Rudimentary Peni - Death Church
Rush - Moving Pictures
Saccharine Trust - Pagan Icons
Saccharine Trust-Surviving You, Always
Sacrifice - Forward To Termination
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late
Saint Vitus - Saint Vitus
Saint Vitus - V
Samhain - Initium
Samhain - November-Coming-Fire
Sarcófago - I.N.R.I.
Sarcófago - Rotting
Savage Republic - Ceremonial
Saxon - Denim & Leather
Saxon - Strong Arm Of The law
Saxon - Wheels Of Steel
Scientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On Love
Scientists - Weird Love
Scorpions - Love At First Sting
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel - Hole
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel – Nail
Scratch Acid - Just Keep Eating
Scratch Acid - s/t
Scream - No More Censorship
Scream - Still Screaming
Scream - This Side Up
Screaming Trees - Buzz Factory
Screaming Trees - Even If & Especially When
Septic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains
Shudder To Think - Curses, Spells, Voodoo, Mooses
Sick Of It All - Blood , Sweat, and No Tears
Sisters Of Mercy - First And Last And Always
Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
Skid Row - Skid Row
Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And Manipulate
Skinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse
Skinny Puppy - VIVIsectVI
Skullflower - Form Destroyer
Slayer - Hell Awaits
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Slayer - South Of Heaven
Slint - Tweez
Slovenly - We Shoot For the Moon
Snakefinger - Greener Postures
Snatches of Pink - Dead Men
Social Distortion - Mommy's Little Monster
Social Distortion - Prison Bound
Sodom - Agent Orange
Sonic Youth - Bad Moon Rising
Sonic Youth - Confusion Is Sex
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
Sonic Youth - Evol
Sonic Youth - Sister
Sonic Youth - The Walls Have Ears
Sonny Sharrock - Guitar
Sonny Sharrock Band - Seize the Rainbow
Sore Throat - Death to Capitalist Hardcore
Soul Asylum - Hang Time
Soundgarden - Louder Than Love
Soundgarden - Ultra Mega OK
Spacemen 3 - Playing With Fire
Spacemen 3 - Sound of Confusion
Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription
SPK - Auto-Da-Fe
Squirrel Bait - Skag Heaven
Squirrel Bait - Squirrel Bait
Steve Jones - Fire and Gasoline
Stiff Little Fingers - Nobody's Heroes
Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or Die
Stretchheads - Five Fingers, Four Thingers...
Suicidal Tendencies - S/T
Suicide - Half Alive
Swans - Children Of God
Swans - Cop
Swans - Filth
Swans - Public Castration Is A Good Idea
Swans - S/T
Swans - Young God
Swell Maps - ...In "Jane From Occupied Europe"
Tank - Filth Hounds Of Hades
Terrorizer - World Downfall
Test Dept. - Ecstacy Under Duress
Testament - The Legacy
Testament - The New Order
The Afghan Whigs - Big Top Halloween
The Birthday Party - Prayers on Fire
The Comsat Angels - Sleep No More
The Comsat Angels - Waiting For A Miracle
The Crucifucks - s/t
The Cult - Electric
The Cult - Love
The Cult - Sonic Temple
The Cure - Pornography
The Cynics - Blue Train Station
The Damned - The Black Album
The Ex - 1936 spanish revolution
The Fall - Hex Enduction Houir
The Fall - Perverted by Language
The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace
The Flaming Lips - Oh My Gawd
The Flaming Lips - Telepathetic Surgery
The Fluid - Clear Black Paper
The Fuzztones - Lysergic Emanations
The Gories - House Rockin'
The Gun Club - Fire of Love
The Gun Club - The Las Vegas Story
The Honeymoon Killers - Turn Me On
The Jesus And Mary Chain - Automatic
The Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy
The Jesus Lizard - Pure
The Left - Hell It's the Earth
The Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our Madness
The Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!
The Misfits - Walk Among Us
The Nomads - Outburst
The Pretenders - Pretenders II
The Primitives - Lazy 86-88
The Ramones - Pleasant Dreams
The Replacements - Hootenanny
The Replacements - Let It Be
The Replacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The Trash
The Replacements - Tim
The Reverb Motherfuckers - Route 666
The Scientists - Blood Red River
The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Gunshy
The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally Religious
The Sound - All Fall Down
The Sound - From The Lions Mouth
The Sound -Jeopardy
The Telescopes - Taste
The Wedding Present - Bizarro
Thee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock Explosion
Thin Lizzy - Thunder and Lightning
Thin White Rope - Moonhead
This Heat - Deceit
Three Johns - Atom Drum Bop
Throwing Muses - s/t
Throwing Muses - The Real Ramona
Tin Machine - Tin Machine
Trouble - Psalm 9
Trouble - The Skull
TSOL - Change Today?
Twisted Sister - Stay Hungry
U2 - Boy
Union Carbide Productions - In the Air Tonight
Urge Overkill - Jesus Urge Superstar
Ut - Conviction
Van Halen - 1984
Van Halen - Women and Children First
Venom - Black Metal
Venom - Possessed
Venom - Welcome to Hell
Vio-lence -Eternal Nightmare
Void/Faith Split LP
Voivod - Dimension Hatross
Voivod - Killing Technology
Voivod - Nothingface
Warrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich
WASP - WASP
Whitesnake - Slip of the Tongue
Whitesnake - Whitesnake
Wipers - Is This Real
Wipers - Over The Edge
Wipers - Youth Of America
Witchfinder General - Death Penalty
Wolfhounds - Bright & Guilty
X - Los Angeles
X - Wild Gift
Y&T - Open Fire
Young Gods - L'eau Rouge
Young Gods - s/t
Youth Of Today - Break Down The Walls
Youth Of Today - We're Not In This Alone
Zeni Geva - Maximum Love + Fuck
Zero Boys - Vicious Circle
Zoogz Rift - Amputees in Limbo
ZZ Top - Eliminator

The voting thread is of course for repping albums but youtubes wont be allowed, so if someone wants to go ahead and start a youtube thread that's fine.

obviously you don't want youtube embeds, but what about links? thx for making that correction, btw.

Start a separate thread for youtubes please

Life's Rich Pageant and The Joshua Tree are definitely albums, if that's what you were asking. Both were nominated on 31 July.

no i wasnt talking about them.
I've sent the lists to Seandalai

NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED

Oh nm, I get you.

do you think 2 weeks voting time for tracks and 3 weeks for albums is enough or should it be 3 & 4 weeks? (tracks will roll out first so may as well allow extra time for albums when people say they had no idea there was a poll on etc)

3&4 gets my vote.

no objections so far so it's looking like 3/4 weeks ,so if anyone disagrees they have til I hear from seandalai

I'm excited.

So, what now? Where do I vote?

The voting form has to be set up by seandalai. I'm just waiting on him getting back to me, I've emailed him. I will start a new thread once everything is set up.

Shall I start a youtube campaign thread just now while we wait on the voting forms being set up or would that lead to too many cries of "where do i vote?"

I think I shall

Final list

7 Seconds - Walk Together, Rock Together
8 Eyed Spy - S/T
AC/DC - Back in Black
Adolescents - Adolescents
Aerosmith - Pump
Agent Orange - Living in Darkness
Alice Donut - Bucketfulls of Sickness and Horror in an Otherwise Meaningless Life
Amebix - Arise
Amebix - Monolith
Angry Samoans - Back From Samoa
Annihilator -Alice In Hell
Anthrax - Among The Living
Anthrax - Spreading The Disease
Appliances - SFB - SFB
Atheist - Piece Of Time
Autopsy - Severed Survival
Avengers - Avengers
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Bad Brains - I Against I
Bad Brains - S/T
Bad Religion - No Control
Bad Religion - Suffer
Band of Susans - Hope Against Hope
Band of Susans - Love Agenda
Bastro - Diablo Guapo
Bathory - Blood Fire Death
Bathory - Under The Sign Of The Black Mark
Bauhaus - Burning From The Inside
Bauhaus - In The Flat Field
Bauhaus - Mask
Bauhaus - The Sky'S Gone Out
Big Black - Atomizer
Big Black - Songs About Fucking
Big Boys/Dicks - Recorded Live at Raul's Club
Billy Idol - Rebel Yell
Birthday Party - Junkyard
Bitch Magnet - Star Booty
Bitch Magnet - Umber
Black Flag - Damaged
Black Flag - In My Head
Black Flag - Jealous Again
Black Flag - My War
Black Flag - Slip It In
Black Sabbath - Heaven And Hell
Black Sabbath - Mob Rules
Blind Idiot God - S/T
Blind Idiot God - Undertow
Blue Oyster Cult - Cultosaurus Erectus
Bolt Thrower - Realm Of Chaos
Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet
Boredoms - Soul Discharge
Butthole Surfers - A Brown Reason To Live
Butthole Surfers - Hairway to Steven
Butthole Surfers - Locust Abortion Technician
Butthole Surfers - Psychic... Powerless... Another Man'S Sac
Butthole Surfers - Rembrandt Pussyhorse
Candlemass - Ancient Dreams
Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Candlemass - Nightfall
Candlemass - Tales Of Creation
Capt Beefheart - Doc at the Radar Station
Capt Beefheart - Ice Cream for Crow
Carcass - Symphonies of Sickness
Caroliner Rainbow Hernia Milk Queen - Rear End Hernia Puppet Show
Caroliner Rainbow Stewed Angel Skins - I'm Armed With Quarts of Blood
Celibate Rifles - The Turgid Miasma of Existence
Celtic Frost - Into the Pandemonium
Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales
Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Cheap Trick - One On One
Christian Death - Only Theatre of Pain
Chrome - Blood on the Moon
Chrome - Red Exposure
Chrome - Third From the Sun
Circle Jerks - Group Sex
Cirith Ungol - Frost and Fire
Cirith Ungol - King Of The Dead
Coil - Horse Rotorvator
Coil- Scatology
Condemned to Death - Diary of a Love Monster
Cop Shoot Cop - Headkick Facsimile
Coroner - No More Color
Coroner - Punishment for Decadence
Coroner - R.I.P.
Corrosion of Conformity - Animosity
Cosmic Psychos - Go the Hack
Couch Potatoes - Curiosity Rocks
Cows - daddy has a tail
Cramps - Psychedelic Jungle
Cramps - Smell Of Female
Cramps - Songs The Lord Taught Us
Crash Course in Science - Signals from Pier 13
Crass - Christ - the album
Crass - Penis Envy
Crass - Yes Sir I Will
Cro-Mags - Best Wishes
Cro-Mags - The Age of Quarrel
Cryptic Slaughter - Money Talks
Current 93 - Dogs Blood Rising
D.R.I. - Crossover
D.R.I. - Dealing With It
DAF - Die Kleinen und die Bosen
Dag Nasty - Can I Say
Danzig - Danzig
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Das Damen - Mousetrap
Das Damen - Triskaidekaphobe
David Thomas and the Pedestrians - The Sound of the Sand
Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotten Vegetables
Dead Milkmen - Beelzebubba
Death - Leprosy
Death - Scream Bloody Gore
Death Angel - The Ultra-Violence
Death In June - Brown Book
Death In June - Nada
Death In June - The Guilty Have No Pride
Death In June - The World That Summer
Def Leppard - High N Dry
Def Leppard - Hysteria
Def Leppard - On Through the Night
Def Leppard - Pyromania
Descendents - I Don't Want to Grow Up
Descendents - Milo Goes To College
Destruction - Eternal Devastation
Diamond Head - Lightning to the Nations
Didjits - Hey Judester
Die Kreuzen - S/T
Died Pretty - Free Dirt
Dinosaur - S/T
Dinosaur Jr - Bug
Dinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over Me
Dio - Holy Diver
Dio - Last In Line
Discharge - Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing
DNA - A Taste of DNA
Dog Faced Hermans - Humans Fly
Dog Faced Hermans Every Day Timebomb
Dogs D'Amour - In the Dynamite Jet Saloon
Dream Syndicate - The Days of Wine and Roses
Drunks with Guns - Drunks with Guns
Dustdevils - Gutterlight
Dustdevils - Is Big Leggy
Dwarves - Horror Stories
Dwarves - Tooling for a Warm Teabag
Echo & The Bunnymen - Crocodiles
Einsturzende Neubauten - Drawings Of Ot
Einsturzende Neubauten - Fuenf Auf Der Nach Oben Offenen Richterskala
Einsturzende Neubauten - Halber Mensch
Einsturzende Neubauten – Haus der Lüge
Einsturzende Neubauten - Kollaps
Electro Hippies - The Only Good Punk... Is A Dead One
Embrace - Embrace
English Dogs - Forward Into Battle
Exciter - Long Live the Loud
Exodus - Bonded By Blood
Exodus - Fabulous Disaster
Extreme Noise Terror - A Holocaust in Your Head
F/I - Space Mantra
F/i - Why Not Now? Alan!
Faith No More - Introduce Yourself
Faith No More - The Real Thing
Fates Warning - Perfect Symmetry
Fear - The Record
Fields Of The Nephilim - The Nephilim
Fire Party - s/t
fIREHOSE - Ragin', Full On
Fishbone - Truth and Soul
Flesheaters - A Minute To Pray A Second To Die
Flipper - Generic Flipper
Foetus Interruptus - Thaw
Fugazi - Fugazi
Fugazi - Margin Walker
Fushitsusha - Live I
Game Theory - Big Shot Chronicles
George Thorogood & The Destroyers - Bad to the Bone
Giant Sand - Valley Of Rain
Girl Trouble - Hit It or Quit It
Girlschool - Demolition
Girlschool - Hit And Run
Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1
Glenn Branca - The Ascension
Godflesh - Streetcleaner
Gore - Mean Man’s Dream
Gorilla Biscuits - Start Today
Green On Red - Gas Food Lodging
Grong Grong - S/T
Guess Papers - We Got 'Em
Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
Halo of Flies - Garbageburn
Halo Of Flies - Singles Going Nowhere
Hanoi Rocks - Bangkok Shocks, Saigon Shakes, Hanoi Rocks
Happy Go Licky - S/T
Head Of David - Dustbowl
Head Of David - Head Of David
Helios Creed - Superior Catholic Finger
Helios Creed - The Last Laugh
Hellhammer - Apocalyptic Raids
Hellhammer - Satanic Rites
Husker Du - Candy Apple Grey
Husker Du - Flip Your Wig
Husker Du - Metal Circus
Husker Du - New day Rising
Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Icons of Filth - Onward Christian Soldiers
Iggy Pop - Instinct
Ike Yard - s/t
Iron Maiden - Killers
Iron Maiden - Number Of The Beast
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
Iron Maiden - s/t
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking
Jim Carroll Band - Catholic Boy
Joan Jett - Bad reputation
Jon Wayne - Texas Funeral
Journey - Departure
Journey - Escape
Judas Priest - British Steel
Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith
Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
Keiji Haino- Watashi Dake
Killdozer - Intellectuals Are The Shoeshine Boys Of The Ruling Elite
Killdozer - Intellectuals Are the Shoeshine Boys of the Ruling Elite
Killdozer - Snake Boy
Killing Joke - Killing Joke
Killing Joke - Night Time
Killing Joke - What's THIS For...!
Kilslug - Answer The Call
King Crimson - Discipline
King Diamond - Abigail
Kix - Blow My Fuse
Kix - s/t
Kreator - Pleasure To Kill
Last Exit - Köln
Lazy Cowgirls - Tapping the Source
Lemonheads - Hate Your Friends
Lime Spiders - Headcleaner
Lita Ford - Out For Blood
Live Skull - Bringing Home The Bait
Live Skull - Cloud One
Live Skull - Don't Get Any on You
Live Skull - Dusted
Live Skull - S/T
Living Colour - Vivid
Loop - Black Sun
Loop - Fade Out
Loop - Heaven's End
Loop - The World in Your Eyes
Loverboy - Get Lucky
Lubricated Goat - Paddock Of Love
Lyres - Lyres Lyres
Macabre - Gloom
Manilla Road - Crystal Logic
Manilla Road - Open The Gates
Manilla Road - The Deluge
Manowar - Fighting The World
Manowar - Sign of the Hammer
Mars - 78
Massacre - Killing Time
Masters Of Reality- Masters Of Reality
Mayhem - Deathcrush
MDC - Millions of Dead Cops
Meat Puppets - Huevos
Meat Puppets - Monster
Meat Puppets - Up On The Sun
Meat Puppets- II
Megadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!
Megadeth - Peace Sells...But Who's Buying?
Megadeth - So Far, So Good... So What
Melvins - Gluey Porch Treatments
Melvins - Ozma
Mercyful Fate - Dont Break The Oath
Mercyful Fate - Melissa
Metallica - ...And Justice For All
Metallica - Kill 'Em All
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Metallica - Ride The Lightning
Ministry - The Land of Rape and Honey
Ministry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste
Ministry - Twitch
Minor Threat - Minor Threat
Minor Threat - out of step
Minutemen - Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat
Minutemen – Double Nickels on the Dime
Minutemen - The Punch Line
Minutemen - What Makes a Man Start Fires?
Misfits - Beware
Misfits - Earth Ad
Misfits - Legacy Of Brutality
Mission of Burma - Signals, Calls, and Marches
Mission of Burma - Vs.
Monster Magnet - Forget About Life I'M High On Dope
Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness
Morsure - Acceleration Process
Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood
Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil
Motley Crue - Too Fast For Love
Motorhead - Ace of Spades
Motorhead - Another Perfect Day
Motorhead - Orgasmatron
Mudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff
MX-80 Sound - Out Of The Tunnel
My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
Naked City - Naked City
Naked City - Torture Garden
Naked Raygun - Jettison
Naked Raygun - Throb Throb
Napalm Death - From Enslavement To Obliteration
Napalm Death - Scum
Neil Young - Freedom
Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Re*Ac*Tor
Neurosis - Pain of Mind
New Model Army - No Rest for the Wicked
Nick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Firstborn Is Dead
Nick Cave + the Bad Seeds - From Her to Eternity
Nick Cave + The Bad Seeds - Your Funeral, My Trial
Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine
Nirvana - Bleach
Nitzer Ebb - Showtime
No Trend ‎– When Death Won'T Solve Your Problem
NoMeansNo - Wrong
Nomeansno - You Kill Me
Nuclear Assault - Game Over
Nurse With Wound - Homotopy To Marie
Nurse With Wound - Soliloquy for Lilith
Obituary - Slowly We Rot
Operation Ivy - Energy
Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard Of Oz
Ozzy Osbourne - Diary Of A Madman
Pagan Altar - Pagan Altar
Pagans - Buried Alive
Pantera - Power Metal
Paul Chain - In The Darkness
Paul Chain - Violet Art Of Improvisation
Paul Chain Violet Theatre - Detaching From Satan EP
Pentagram - Day Of Reckoning
Pentagram - Pentagram
pil - flowers of romance
Pixies - Come On Pilgrim
Pixies - Doolittle
Pixies - Surfer Rosa
Plasmatics - Beyond the Valley of 1984
plugz - better luck
Poison - Open Up And Say...Ahhh!
Poison Idea - Kings of Punk
Pop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder
Possessed - Seven Churches
Primitive Calculators - s/t
Primus - Suck On This
Prong - Force Fed
Prong - Primitive Origins
Psychedelic Furs - Talk Talk Talk
Psychic TV - A Pagan Day
Psychic TV - Mouth of the Night
Pussy Galore - Dial 'M' for Motherfucker
Pussy Galore - Right Now!
Pussy Galore - Sugarshit Sharp
Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime
Radio Birdman - Living Eyes
Raging Slab - Raging Slab
Ramones - End of the Century
Rapeman - Two Nuns and a Pack Mule
Raw Power - Screams From the Gutter
Reagan Youth - Volume 1
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky Styley
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers Milk
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Uplift Mofo Party Plan
Redd Kross - Neurotica
REM - Fables of the Reconstruction
Repulsion - Horrified
Rhys Chatham - Die Donnergotter
Rites Of Spring - End on End
Rollins Band - Do It
Royal Trux - Royal Trux
Rudimentary Peni - Death Church
Rush - Moving Pictures
Saccharine Trust - Pagan Icons
Saccharine Trust-Surviving You, Always
Sacrifice - Forward To Termination
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late
Saint Vitus - Saint Vitus
Saint Vitus - V
Samhain - Initium
Samhain - November-Coming-Fire
Sarcófago - I.N.R.I.
Sarcófago - Rotting
Savage Republic - Ceremonial
Saxon - Denim & Leather
Saxon - Strong Arm Of The law
Saxon - Wheels Of Steel
Scientists - This Heart Doesn'T Run On Blood, This Heart Doesn'T Run On Love
Scientists - Weird Love
Scorpions - Love At First Sting
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel - Hole
Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel – Nail
Scratch Acid - Just Keep Eating
Scratch Acid - s/t
Scream - No More Censorship
Scream - Still Screaming
Scream - This Side Up
Screaming Trees - Buzz Factory
Screaming Trees - Even If & Especially When
Septic Death - Now That I Have the Attention, What Do I Do with It?
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains
Shudder To Think - Curses, Spells, Voodoo, Mooses
Sick Of It All - Blood , Sweat, and No Tears
Sisters Of Mercy - First And Last And Always
Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
Skid Row - Skid Row
Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold And Manipulate
Skinny Puppy - Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse
Skinny Puppy - VIVIsectVI
Skullflower - Form Destroyer
Slayer - Hell Awaits
Slayer - Reign in Blood
Slayer - South Of Heaven
Slint - Tweez
Slovenly - We Shoot For the Moon
Snakefinger - Greener Postures
Snatches of Pink - Dead Men
Social Distortion - Mommy's Little Monster
Social Distortion - Prison Bound
Sodom - Agent Orange
Sonic Youth - Bad Moon Rising
Sonic Youth - Confusion Is Sex
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
Sonic Youth - Evol
Sonic Youth - Sister
Sonic Youth - The Walls Have Ears
Sonny Sharrock - Guitar
Sonny Sharrock Band - Seize the Rainbow
Sore Throat - Death to Capitalist Hardcore
Soul Asylum - Hang Time
Soundgarden - Louder Than Love
Soundgarden - Ultra Mega OK
Spacemen 3 - Playing With Fire
Spacemen 3 - Sound of Confusion
Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Prescription
SPK - Auto-Da-Fe
Squirrel Bait - Skag Heaven
Squirrel Bait - Squirrel Bait
Steve Jones - Fire and Gasoline
Stiff Little Fingers - Nobody's Heroes
Stormtroopers of Death - Speak English or Die
Stretchheads - Five Fingers, Four Thingers...
Suicidal Tendencies - S/T
Suicide - Half Alive
Swans - Children Of God
Swans - Cop
Swans - Filth
Swans - Public Castration Is A Good Idea
Swans - S/T
Swans - Young God
Swell Maps - ...In "Jane From Occupied Europe"
Tank - Filth Hounds Of Hades
Terrorizer - World Downfall
Test Dept. - Ecstacy Under Duress
Testament - The Legacy
Testament - The New Order
The Afghan Whigs - Big Top Halloween
The Birthday Party - Prayers on Fire
The Comsat Angels - Sleep No More
The Comsat Angels - Waiting For A Miracle
The Crucifucks - s/t
The Cult - Electric
The Cult - Love
The Cult - Sonic Temple
The Cure - Pornography
The Cynics - Blue Train Station
The Damned - The Black Album
The Ex - 1936 spanish revolution
The Fall - Hex Enduction Houir
The Fall - Perverted by Language
The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace
The Flaming Lips - Oh My Gawd
The Flaming Lips - Telepathetic Surgery
The Fluid - Clear Black Paper
The Fuzztones - Lysergic Emanations
The Gories - House Rockin'
The Gun Club - Fire of Love
The Gun Club - The Las Vegas Story
The Honeymoon Killers - Turn Me On
The Jesus And Mary Chain - Automatic
The Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy
The Jesus Lizard - Pure
The Left - Hell It's the Earth
The Lords of the New Church - The Method to Our Madness
The Meatmen - We're The Meatmen...and You Suck!!
The Misfits - Walk Among Us
The Nomads - Outburst
The Pretenders - Pretenders II
The Primitives - Lazy 86-88
The Ramones - Pleasant Dreams
The Replacements - Hootenanny
The Replacements - Let It Be
The Replacements - Sorry Ma, Forgot To Take Out The Trash
The Replacements - Tim
The Reverb Motherfuckers - Route 666
The Scientists - Blood Red River
The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Gunshy
The Screaming Blue Messiahs - Totally Religious
The Sound - All Fall Down
The Sound - From The Lions Mouth
The Sound -Jeopardy
The Telescopes - Taste
The Wedding Present - Bizarro
Thee Mighty Caesars - English Punk Rock Explosion
Thin Lizzy - Thunder and Lightning
Thin White Rope - Moonhead
This Heat - Deceit
Three Johns - Atom Drum Bop
Throwing Muses - s/t
Throwing Muses - The Real Ramona
Tin Machine - Tin Machine
Trouble - Psalm 9
Trouble - The Skull
TSOL - Change Today?
Twisted Sister - Stay Hungry
U2 - Boy
Union Carbide Productions - In the Air Tonight
Urge Overkill - Jesus Urge Superstar
Ut - Conviction
Van Halen - 1984
Van Halen - Women and Children First
Venom - Black Metal
Venom - Possessed
Venom - Welcome to Hell
Vio-lence -Eternal Nightmare
Void/Faith Split LP
Voivod - Dimension Hatross
Voivod - Killing Technology
Voivod - Nothingface
Warrant - Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich
WASP - WASP
Whitesnake - Slip of the Tongue
Whitesnake - Whitesnake
Wipers - Is This Real
Wipers - Over The Edge
Wipers - Youth Of America
Witchfinder General - Death Penalty
Wolfhounds - Bright & Guilty
X - Los Angeles
X - Wild Gift
Y&T - Open Fire
Young Gods - L'eau Rouge
Young Gods - s/t
Youth Of Today - Break Down The Walls
Youth Of Today - We're Not In This Alone
Zeni Geva - Maximum Love + Fuck
Zero Boys - Vicious Circle
Zoogz Rift - Amputees in Limbo
ZZ Top - Eliminator

Anyone out there fancy helping out by volunteering to do Spotify playlists for Albums and Tracks?

Here is a youtube companion thread 1980s Rock (With a difference) Tracks/Albums Poll YOUTUBE COMPANION THREAD

Post vids there you would like to campaign for.