so.........tell me about the vines......

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i'm serious

― donna (donna), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 01:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

how good ARE they????

― donna (donna), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 01:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

is it just me or did that whole hype machine just grind to a halt as soon as people actually heard the album?

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 01:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's not just you. You try living in Australia - horrible scenes, man.

― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 01:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

ps third album will probably be great tho...

― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 01:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

But we need to pretend to like all these crap garageland bands until the Hives get their third album out.

― B:Rad (Brad), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 01:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

uhhh, haven't The Hives already had, like, four albums? I know one's a comp, but still...

― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 01:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

The Vines have one, incredibly slick, album featuring several rubbish rock tracks that have been / will be released as singles, quite a few rather good pop songs, all minus the raw charm that made the demo recording of 'Factory' so appealing. Live they are a contrived, charmless shambles with too much goddamn vocal reverb.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 02:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

Plus I hate stoners, so the singer comes across as a pathetic excuse for a human being.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 02:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

is the "factory" demo available (officially)? I've heard so many people go on about it - it's a charming slice of Supergrassian whimsy - but only heard the album version.

Actually, I think they opened with it when I saw them in April but I can't really remember that.

― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 02:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's on the 7" they did for Rex Records. They chose not to play it for many of their shows in Australia.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 02:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

Sunshinin' is ok. It's the only song on the album that's even close to good.

― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 02:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

the hives should be exterminated

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 05:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

i am guessing (based on the name) that the vines suck, but i don't think i've ever heard them.

― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 05:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's on the 7" they did for Rex Records. They chose not to play it for many of their shows in Australia.

Uhhh, but I saw them in London!

Hives>Vines any fuckin' day, for suits, ties and crazy grin alone.

― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 05:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

silverchair?

― your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 05:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

silverchair

are you trying to ruin my day?

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 05:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

Young rock band with "The" in name = you know the drill.

Fun recent game in the newspapers - seeing their non-pop writers trying to sound knowledgeable on the 'latest trend' by airily mentioning eg "The Strokes, The Streets, The Hives..."

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 06:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

Greatest band ever: The Whive Stropes.

― Nate Patrin, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 06:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

The Vines seem to be an excuse to let rock writers give their Nirvana fixation some exercise. Blarg.

― Ess Kay (esskay), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 06:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

At least Kurt Cobain could sing live without the use of sheets of reverb.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 07:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

Craig Nicholls is a scum-sucking excuse for a human being, who seems to think that pretending to be a severe depressive is perfectly acceptable PR.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 07:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

um.........yeah, so i guess i wont go buy their album then. glad i asked.

― donna (donna), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 08:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

actually no, i will get it anyway......then i can be an informed disliker ( is that a word? )
and maybe i will like em....no accounting for taste you realise

― donna (donna), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 08:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

b-but donna doncha realise you will succumb to the forces of MARKETING!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 08:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

DOWNLOAD FIRST!!!

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 08:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

No, don't download at all. Dom is right, Craig Nicholls deserves to have his voice box removed with a rusty coathanger.

They're only barely better than Silverchair because at least their singles are short meaning the pain is over quickly.

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 11:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

but the latest silverchair singles are actually good!

(iwasgoingtodeletethisandpretendinevertypeditbutittookmeagestoputallthesapcesin-myspacebarisbroken-andididn'twanttowasteallthateffort)

― minna (minna), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 11:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

There's no way back from the darkside now. If it's confession time I'll admit to liking the vocal version of Cosmos-Take Me With You.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 12:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

Craig Nicholls and the Vines on Letterman had to be about the best television appearance of a musical act that i've seen in ages. Not since the black-biker-leathered PJ Harvey completely disrupted the Johnny Carson Tonight Show have i seen a more electric performance. Drugged up or not, i'll buy Highly Evolved simply for props.

All those pansy wannabe punkers au d'jour can sod off, quit posing, and start thinking about some energy again...

― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 12:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

Vines = Stone Temple Pilots

I mean it, nothing to add, beginning and end really.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 13:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

The Vines? The Hives? The this? The that? Two words:

Black Madonnas

They eat the rest.

― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 13:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

I think Minna's follow-up comment is genius. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

hahaha tom is right on when he talks about the fun game of band name dropping by those who have obv. heard maybe half a strokes song.

i want to know how many tapes of the 'in bloom' and 'come as you are' videos the lead singer wore through before he perfected his crash-into-the-drums routine.

― maura (maura), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 14:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

haha-ned-i_wish_i_was_the_kind_of_genius_who_knew_how_to_fix_spacebars

― minna (minna), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 15:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

-2002-RNS.mp3

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 18:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

Vines = Stone Temple Pilots

The Vines don't sound like Stone Temple Pilots. The Vines probably wish they could write as many catchy songs, however.

― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

The Vines are really one of the least interesting bands Australia has to offer at the moment. They're not even their management's best band. Try Rocket Science or Youth Group instead (both far, far superior bands)..

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 23:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

Hives>Vines any fuckin' day, for suits, ties and crazy grin alone.
Hives: antics enhance music/performance.
Vines: antics try haplessly to supplement putrid lack of music/performance quality.

― Steph (Steph), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 00:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Revive...

Fuck knows why, cos I've never had any love for The Vines, but I've just come into possession of the new album Winning Days, and I'm slightly chastened to say it's not the execrable pile of wankshite I was expecting. In all recent interviews, Craig has come across as vaccuous, dangerously ill-informed and just plain desperate and sad, but I'm halfway through the album and have as yet had no Stereophonics-like Pavlovian urge to press stop and throw the damn thing out of the window. Sure, it's no u-turn musically - vaguely Beatlesy melodies/harmonies with the occasional burst of wasn't-Kurt-great dynamics, lyrics about absolutely fuck-all - hell, they've not even bothered to pretend they're reinventing the wheel *again*, but...oh bloody hell, it's ok, y'know?

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the new album before now. Perhaps they've been written offf due to Nichols's arseishness. Thoughts?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

the guitar tone on the new single is the worst i've ever heard on a studio recording. whoever produced it is either cloth eared or a fucking pansy-ass who can't stand up to nicholls/the record company/the management

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

seriously, is it so hard to get a guitar to not sound like a 16-year old in his bedroom playing a squier through a peavey?

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

I started to worry about how much they owe their label after watching their Michel Gondry-directed video last night. That and Craig Nicholls' insurance premia must be breaking their bank

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

their last album sold a respectable amount, not as much as Jet though. ha! melbourne beats sydney yet again

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, but they're not from a part of Sydney espoused by anyone else, they're from *The Shire*. You won't find any Surry Hills/Glebe/Newtown/etc inhabitant claiming ownership of The Vines or basking in any reflected glory they might find, any more than you'd find anyone in Brunswick banging on about how Jet are "their" band, surely?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

i haven't been to brunswick lately but y'know i wouldn't be surprised

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

i was being silly anyway

― the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

Don't worry, nobody would ever be stupid enough to think that Melbournians were proud of Jet (except for JJJ listeners).

Australian ILMers need to have a day of local band shame, a day in which we apologise for crap local bands getting big: Brisbane=Powderfinger, Sydney=The Vines, Melbourne=Jet, & Perth=The John Butler Trio.

I've already done my bit by hiroshimaing the drummer from Butterfly Effect when I was a teenager - so I have no guilt when it comes to them.

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 12:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

Adelaide needs to take some responsibility here surely?

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 12 March 2004 11:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

Are the Vines from Sydney? They were so crap I had simply assumed they were from Melbourne.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 12 March 2004 12:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

My sister in law lives in Glebe, NSW, and at the height of the Vines hype she had never heard of them.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 12 March 2004 14:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Vines are from The Shire? tricky hobbitses...

― Al (sitcom), Friday, 12 March 2004 14:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

on behalf of adelaide i apologise for the superjesus...

― umop apisdn (umop apisdn), Friday, 12 March 2004 15:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

the video for the new single is quite good - blatant Courtney dig/tribute included

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 12 March 2004 15:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

If you believe the SPIN article, she was filming her own vid next door and crashed the Vines' set. There's a real meeting of the minds for you.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 12 March 2004 16:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

it's really her in the video? hrrmrmmrmrmrm

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 12 March 2004 16:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

are you sure " the shire"....i've read marrickville...the land of pho

― toe-foo (toe-foo), Friday, 12 March 2004 17:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

Travis Morrison of the Dismemberment Plan is fucking ANGRY!

― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Friday, 12 March 2004 20:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

Eh -- I liked a few of the songs on the first album. Admittedly, the singer is a dolt, but at times he can be quite entertaining.
I remember an interview in which he stated that he wanted a statue on his grave of David Gahan, shirt flapping in the breeze, inscribed "Sleep Well, My Dark Angel" (= classic).

We'll see, eh?

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 13 March 2004 03:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

HAHA , Emily likes the Vines. ;-)
Seriously though, I read that thing about Dave Gahan in Rolling Stone and that's the only halfway cool thing that guy ever said.

― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Thursday, 10 March 2005 19:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

"we'll see"

haha, we saw, and they are officially stinkers.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 10 March 2005 22:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

wow, i was an angry young man in those days

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 11 March 2005 00:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

did you guys hear about a few months ago when the Vines guy was diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome?

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1493980/20041119/vines_the.jhtml

it's kinda weird that everyone always (jokingly?) talked about how he acted/looked like a retard and that it was probably a put-on and then it turns out that apparently he does have an autistic disorder. although I think at the time of that announcement a lot of people speculated that it was another put-on because it was brought up in a court trial.

― Al (sitcom), Friday, 11 March 2005 01:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

Is there something special about reviving this thread on March 10th each year or what?

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

no I just revived a bunch of random threads about shit bands people talked about in 2002 today.

― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

REMEMBER SILVERCHAIR

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

even after years of therapy, unfortunately i still do

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 11 March 2005 02:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Get Free" pwnz.

― miccio (miccio), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

What? Your soul?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

"sk8er boi is more challenging than get free" - Dave Grohl

― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

and ELP is more challenging than sk8erboi, so what? and when in the last decade has Dave Grohl given two shits about what's challenging? "Sk8erboi" is more challenging than "Learn To Fly"!

― miccio (miccio), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

yeah Probot was such a VH1-ready sellout...
(you're not gonna get me to defend foo fighters)

― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

They have a few great tunes. Their cover of the Beatles' "I'm Only Sleeping" is excellent.

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:30 (8 years ago) Permalink

Actually if "challenging" is Dave Grohl's musical goal, that might explain why he released an acoustic version of "Times Like These." It's harder to get through than Myst or what the fuck ever.

― miccio (miccio), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Red War" alone shits all over anything the Vines will ever do. Most of the credit for that goes to Max Cavalera's voice, granted.

― Don't Ever Antagonize The Horny (AaronHz), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

THE COLOUR AND THE SHAPE PWNZ

― Al (sitcom), Friday, 11 March 2005 03:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

6 years pass...

Out June 3, 2011

Track listing:

1. Gimme Love
2. Leave Me In The Dark
3. Candy Flippin' Girl
4. A.S.4 (Autumn Shade 4)
5. Weird Animals
6. Cry
7. Future Primitive
8. Riverview Avenue
9. Black Dragon
10. All That You Do
11. Outro
12. Goodbye
13. S.T.W.

― Bee OK, Sunday, 22 May 2011 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/vines-singer-craig-nicholls-arrested-over-violent-rampage-at-home-20121016-27nuv.html

― pretty even gender split (Eazy), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 01:06 (7 months ago) Permalink

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