Don't Let the Dayyys POLL By: Bush Singles

huh, "glycerine," "machinehead" or "swallowed"

what are those songs at the end even

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:25 (10 months ago) Permalink

interchangeable words

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:25 (10 months ago) Permalink

voted for "Swallowed." At least once a week I'll sing the dumb chorus. Nice chord change too.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:26 (10 months ago) Permalink

for funny time and making of people mad, try singing the lyrics to the chorus of comedown over the chorus to everlong.

― Philip Nunez, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:43 (10 months ago) Permalink

ALL TERRIBLE

― in charge of refreshments tonight is (Abbbottt), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:44 (10 months ago) Permalink

one of: swallowed, glycerine, greedy fly, inflatable

― call all destroyer, Monday, 23 July 2012 21:46 (10 months ago) Permalink

i liked this song, 'alien', when i was 12. the end.

― Misc. Carnivora (Matt P), Monday, 23 July 2012 21:59 (10 months ago) Permalink

glycerine

way back when i heard it on the radio and thought it was quite moving. just listened again, still pretty good. should be about half as long though. swallowed is a close runner-up. sounds like a combination of the pixes and web in front by archers of loaf. and as much as i hate to admit it, i do like everything's zen. most of the others i don't know.

― contenderizer, Monday, 23 July 2012 22:05 (10 months ago) Permalink

i need to be constantly reminded that this band:

1. is not from america
2. recorded their big album in 1994 and not after 1997
3. shares a bassist with transvision vamp

― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:12 (10 months ago) Permalink

Really struggling with this myself. Lorax and fauxmarc got me to give "Comedown" another chance back on the other thread, but still eh. These guys get sludgy fast as the BPM drops, so I sort of want to vote for "Machinehead" just for having a little more energy than the others. That being said, I'm weirdly fond of "Letting the Cables Sleep," and somehow the sprawling angst of "Cold Contagious" and "Greedy Fly" works for me. Hrmmmm.

what are those songs at the end even

feel like any alt-rock band that survived past 1998 has a big pile of songs at the bottom of their singles poll like this - it would be like 2/3 of the poll for everclear and foo fighters

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:39 (9 months ago) Permalink

disagree re: foo fighters there

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

also was mostly making fun of gavin rossdale's song titles

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:55 (9 months ago) Permalink

"Headful of Ghosts" is incredible

― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:57 (9 months ago) Permalink

j/k I only remember like 2-3 of these songs

― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:58 (9 months ago) Permalink

u sonofabitch i am now listening to that song

― that one guy (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:59 (9 months ago) Permalink

― that one guy (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 14:00 (9 months ago) Permalink

it's ok but it's no Mouth

― that one guy (loves laboured breathing), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 14:01 (9 months ago) Permalink

for funny time and making of people mad, try singing the lyrics to the chorus of comedown over the chorus to everlong.

― Philip Nunez, Monday, July 23, 2012 5:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

one time when the foo fighters were playing their cover of "down in the park" dave grohl started mockingly singing "comedown" over it

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 14:05 (9 months ago) Permalink

anyway "Everything Zen" was aight when it first dropped and everything since that was insufferable, so that

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 14:05 (9 months ago) Permalink

re: Foo, you're right, they did have like a billion modern rock hits in those LimbsKing polls - - I just never heard any of them because I sort of stopped listening to rock radio right after There Is Nothing Left To Lose came out, so they're sort of frozen in time for me.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 14:09 (9 months ago) Permalink

Glycerine.

I know I've mentioned it before but this particular performance at MTV spring break was, uh, very formative in my development as a young woman.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 14:10 (9 months ago) Permalink

And I'll still turn that shit up if it comes on the radio in the car. I have no idea what any of it means but it's powerful. lol.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 14:11 (9 months ago) Permalink

don't let the days go by....lysterine

― windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 22:26 (9 months ago) Permalink

Just reminded me i always think of it when buying Mister Clean.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 22:31 (9 months ago) Permalink

Am I finally at that age where I understand why people around 10 years older than me cringe when, I dunno, A Flock of Seagulls is mentioned?

― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 22:38 (9 months ago) Permalink

no, because A Flock of Seagulls is awesome

― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 22:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

I mean, *I* think they are... And I suppose I really always thought Bush were just pseudy turd merchants.

― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 22:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

^ this! i'm not the biggest flock of seagulls fan in the world, but "space age love song" and "wishing" forever. afaict, bush don't have anything near that level in their catalog.

― contenderizer, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:26 (9 months ago) Permalink

The Alarm or The Call or something like that might be more analogous

― windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:27 (9 months ago) Permalink

1st 2 seagulls albums are great

― windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:28 (9 months ago) Permalink

My love of "Wishing" and "The More You Live, The More You Love" has something to do with my affinity for their kind of aural landscape than Bush's, it's true.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

these are all awful awful songs but 'glycerine' nearly manages a weiland like charm so i voted that

― balls, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:51 (9 months ago) Permalink

Huh - honestly would've thought you'd go for one of the Albini ones! "Weiland like charm" aside...

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:58 (9 months ago) Permalink

This thread has made me weirdly nostalgic for this band.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 00:43 (9 months ago) Permalink

Cracking up at "Weiland like charm"!

Anyway, at the time, "Swallowed" was my favorite. Still kinda like "Everything Zen" and "Little Things". The rest of the songs that I recognize I pretty much can't stand, but there was a live 120 Minutes version of "Comedown" that I was all about back in the day.

― cwkiii, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 00:48 (9 months ago) Permalink

Also, is it just my local radio stations, or did both "Machinehead" and "Greedy Fly" become modern rock playlist staples YEARS after they were released, after being relatively ignored when they were new?

― cwkiii, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 00:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

chemicals vs cables imo

i enjoy glycerine when i hear it but it just makes me want to hear this:

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 02:27 (9 months ago) Permalink

was it blur or bush who were listening to nothing but fugazi in order to prep for their followup album?

― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 02:35 (9 months ago) Permalink

Also, is it just my local radio stations, or did both "Machinehead" and "Greedy Fly" become modern rock playlist staples YEARS after they were released, after being relatively ignored when they were new?

― cwkiii, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:49 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i think it's just you because ime "Machinehead" was inescapable right away and "Greedy Fly" disappeared after it ceased to be new

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 02:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Machinehead" was like Top 10 for the year '96 airplay-wise.

― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 03:04 (9 months ago) Permalink

i guess people felt it was better than the rest

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 03:11 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah some time around 5 years ago they started playing "Greedy Fly" on a regular basis around here...weird...

― cwkiii, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 03:17 (9 months ago) Permalink

it's between comedown and swallowed on memory but tempted to revisit the whole kaboodle

― da croupier, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 03:29 (9 months ago) Permalink

after that 90's poll i've been playing sixteen stone again

can't stand glycerine

little things was my favorite back then but now i can't really decide between that and comedown and machinehead, maybe even everything zen. i was going to drop zen and little things for the excessive screamy parts at the end but then realized comedown has it too, and maybe machinehead

― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 03:35 (9 months ago) Permalink

I actually still like Comedown/Glycerine/Machinehead alright, but there's no way these guys ever had a song better than Mouth

― seapluspluspunk (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 04:56 (9 months ago) Permalink

"Greedy Fly" -- extra points for that insanely over-the-top video where Gavin is birthed from a monster egg.

― LimbsKing, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:03 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Machinehead" was like Top 10 for the year '96 airplay-wise.

― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:04 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i guess people felt it was better than the rest

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:11 PM Bookmark

ha!

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

The "Mouth" remix being a hit was always hilarious to me because my high school buddy and I had a running thing going about how the original was the worst song on Razorblade Suitcase and one of the worst songs ever made. I'm not sure how we determined this - it was just one of those songs you love to heap with abuse, do mocking impressions of, etc. It is pretty dreary and shapeless. So then when a few months later or whenever they did the remix album it was a "hit" it was like, god, the whole world really is surreal and absurd amirite?

I am touched that anybody else likes "Letting the Cables Sleep." That is straight up guilty pleasure for me and I rarely use that term.

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:18 (9 months ago) Permalink

original "Mouth" - it really does suck, first two minutes sound like he's making the song up as he goes along.

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:19 (9 months ago) Permalink

i know! you'd think one of the other massively different and distinguishable singles wd've set the world on fire

― Shrimpface Killah (Noodle Vague), Friday, 10 August 2012 02:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

now i wish i had thrown a vote to inflatable

― call all destroyer, Friday, 10 August 2012 02:43 (9 months ago) Permalink

JUSTICE

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:19 (9 months ago) Permalink

Razorblade is definitely a fairweather johnson - sixteen went 6x platinum during a window from jan '95 to april '97, Razorblade went 3x platinum from Nov '96 to July '97. People were just in the Bush-purchasing mood, razorblade really never achieved a life of its own.

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:29 (9 months ago) Permalink

which is why the Razorblade singles getting a respectable 15 votes vs. Sixteen Stone's 22 votes surprised me

― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:34 (9 months ago) Permalink

you forget we are people who know who steve albini is

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

america may not care, but future rock critics and nerds took note

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

48 votes for a Bush poll? Huh

― Get wolves (DL), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:38 (9 months ago) Permalink

"that indie guy in chem class says the new one sounds like 'surfer' music but I don't hear it"

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:38 (9 months ago) Permalink

but even kids like me at the time, as well as adult critics, saw the Albini hiring as a pretty transparent grab for cred and/or even more Nirvana comparisons! it's not like that album won skeptics over to the extent of The Bends or even Purple. (xpost)

― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:40 (9 months ago) Permalink

glycerine is so bad

― goole, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:44 (9 months ago) Permalink

the string bit at the end is pretty cool tho

― goole, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:44 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah, could be salvaged as a loop for some "Bittersweet Symphony" type thing, but song itself is the biggest turd.

― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:46 (9 months ago) Permalink

i cannot believe this many people voted in this poll. these songs are terrible.

― horseshoe, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

but even kids like me at the time, as well as adult critics, saw the Albini hiring as a pretty transparent grab for cred and/or even more Nirvana comparisons! it's not like that album won skeptics over to the extent of The Bends or even Purple.

"swallowed" did, though. in a sense it's their "lakini's juice"

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, "Machinehead" was like Top 10 for the year '96 airplay-wise.

― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:04 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i guess people felt it was better than the rest

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:11 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this made me laugh, then mad at myself for remembering lyrics to "machinehead"

― horseshoe, Monday, 13 August 2012 17:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

lol

honestly i had no real sense anyone especially liked "Swallowed" for 16 years before this poll

― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:57 (9 months ago) Permalink

jesus christ, sixteen years

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 18:13 (9 months ago) Permalink

jesus christ, sixteen stone

― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 18:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

jesus christ.

― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

re "Swallowed" at the time I thought, "Oh, well, Albini did improve them" but then a girl who liked Mazzy Star brought Razorblade Suitcase into the newsroom and we all cleared our throats and played The Saint soundtrack for the nth time.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 August 2012 19:26 (9 months ago) Permalink

"swallowed" did, though. in a sense it's their "lakini's juice"

since when did lakinis juice win people over

― billstevejim, Monday, 13 August 2012 19:38 (9 months ago) Permalink

"Lakini's Juice" C or D?

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 19:39 (9 months ago) Permalink

"their finest track" - miccio
"my favorite Live single" - Herbert Herbert
"the only Live song that doesn't make me vomit and/or laugh" - VegemiteGrrl

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 19:40 (9 months ago) Permalink

tbf me and herb are friends from high school but both "lakini" and "swallowed" are TA-DAAAAA first singles from follow-ups that boldly announced the band's desire to take corporate rock in bold directions so no shock 10+ ilxors dig 'em in polls

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:12 (9 months ago) Permalink

did i mention them shits were bold cuz brother they were bold

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:12 (9 months ago) Permalink

I think we've touched on this before as a general pattern of the way alt-rock records got marketed (commercially disappointing major label rock/alternative albums of 1996 , Stylus's Top Ten Momentum Killing Follow-Up Singles to Breakthrough Post-Grunge Albums) - actually, it was you and billstevejim that really made me notice this pattern of the grating, noisy, BOLD first single with the intended mainstream rock/pop hit waiting in the wings. In hindsight a really weird strategy, very specific to that moment in time.

One stone unturned: who started that trend? Within alt-rock it probably traces really easily to Nevermind but does it have deeper roots?

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

earlier example: "welcome to the jungle" followed by "sweet child o' mine"

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

it was you and billstevejim that really made me notice this pattern of the grating, noisy, BOLD first single with the intended mainstream rock/pop hit waiting in the wings.

U2 POP poll

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 August 2012 21:27 (9 months ago) Permalink

was JUST thinking of appetite, couldn't remember offhand what the sequence was there! nice.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:27 (9 months ago) Permalink

also, that's funny b/c as with Lakini's Juice, Discotheque is my favorite single from that record by a mile.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:28 (9 months ago) Permalink

Maybe Razorblade Suitcase just screwed up by not actually having the crossover pop smash waiting up its sleeve. I think I voted for "Greedy Fly" in the poll, ultimately.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:29 (9 months ago) Permalink

i think there's a difference (but still a notable relationship) between "hard rock band does aggressive 'this is us' first single and then power ballad second single" and "alt-rock band does weird abrasive first single and then 'this is us' accessible second single"

― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 21:29 (9 months ago) Permalink

basically it's been conventional wisdom ever since the industry started thinking about singles campaigns that the best place to put your surefire hit is second

― Pollopolicía (some dude), Monday, 13 August 2012 21:30 (9 months ago) Permalink

Dunno if it's exactly what you're going for but part of it has to be about symbolism and what these gestures are supposed to convey - - presumably the hard rock band's first single conveys that they are still HARD and tough and that their male fans should still buy the record even though the last one had that power ballad on it which was like, for girls or whatever, nevermind the upcoming power ballad.

The alt band's abrasive single is also about authenticity but it's less gendered and more tribal - more about making the audience feel like they and the band are still inside the avant garde club of the 'underground,' where dissonant scary stuff is shot in high-contrast, smeary, herky-jerky video, despite the major label marketing campaign and gigantic crossover hit waiting around the corner.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:36 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah i think the "abrasive" vs "hard rock" thing is just a matter of degrees - I saw live on the secret sodomy tour and "turn my head" was definitely a sop to the market rather than a "this is us" song.

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:38 (9 months ago) Permalink

so, because US spotify is missing like half of Pop, i am now listening to secret samadhi while sorting my laundry

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

it's a crazy, crazy, mixed-up music streaming service

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:43 (9 months ago) Permalink

is anyone really missing half of Pop?

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:43 (9 months ago) Permalink

be sure to queue Speed of Sound and Dirty Work.

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 August 2012 21:44 (9 months ago) Permalink

oh, dude, i am one of ilx's resident macca fans, i OWN speed of sound

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:46 (9 months ago) Permalink

sadly wings is not on spotify so i'll just have to live my life assuming they were consistently the worst

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:46 (9 months ago) Permalink

if you had spotify you would find that they were in fact consistently the BEST

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:47 (9 months ago) Permalink

er, if they were on spotify. y'know.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:47 (9 months ago) Permalink

Wings was made for excerpting

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 August 2012 21:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

made it three songs into secret samadhi, switching to razorblade suitcase

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 21:56 (9 months ago) Permalink

when I saw i@n c0h3n a few weeks ago I specifically asked him about "Lakini's Juice" and he still loves the thing

― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 August 2012 21:59 (9 months ago) Permalink

The alt band's abrasive single is also about authenticity but it's less gendered and more tribal - more about making the audience feel like they and the band are still inside the avant garde club of the 'underground,' where dissonant scary stuff is shot in high-contrast, smeary, herky-jerky video, despite the major label marketing campaign and gigantic crossover hit waiting around the corner.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, August 13, 2012

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 13 August 2012 22:10 (9 months ago) Permalink

Six tracks in and I feel I can confidently say that Razorblade Suitcase is a better album than Secret Samadhi although jeez, it would not kill these guys to smile once in a while. Bush have more energy but everything is so joyless.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 13 August 2012 22:26 (9 months ago) Permalink

Bush had a good sound and good tunes but Gavin is just an ugh of a vocalist

Best faux-Bush album: Rival Schools, United By Fate

― da croupier, Monday, 13 August 2012 22:57 (9 months ago) Permalink