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hey let's have a Peaking Lights thread

936 was one of my favorite records of 2011

on first listen the new one "Lucifer" is sounding super chill

dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:23 (four years ago) Permalink

love the new album cover too. very krautrock.

full album stream:
http://soundcloud.com/weirdworldrecordco/sets/peaking-lights-lucifer

dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:27 (four years ago) Permalink

really feeling this - came to 936 way late, think i prefer it to the new one

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:35 (four years ago) Permalink

seems like the new one tilts a bit more toward burbling/bubbling/twinkling electronic textures, where 936 was mainly about big basslines and more explicit dub sounding stuff

I'm liking it though

dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:43 (four years ago) Permalink

I thought the last one was pretty decent, but I'm disappointed that the awesome cover doesn't seem to be translating to a much heavier krautrock vibe on the new one - at least not judging from the tracks I've heard.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:49 (four years ago) Permalink

def. not heavy but not all krautrock is heavy. it's more on the ambient electronic side.

dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:52 (four years ago) Permalink

I guess I didn't really mean "heavy", just that the two tracks I've heard didn't really read very krautrock at all.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 20:53 (four years ago) Permalink

DUDES

peaking lights lady is the lady from NUMBERS

the late great, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:05 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't know, this one might be even closer to straight dub than the last one, at least in terms of the rhythms & parts. it definitely has some big basslines. sounds great but kinda makes me want to listen to 936.

xp

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:08 (four years ago) Permalink

they used to live a couple blocks away from me but i didn't really know it until they moved away. and i had dinner with some folks the other night who had a phone pic of PL playing in their garage, w/the baby in a sling.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:13 (four years ago) Permalink

DUDES

peaking lights lady is the lady from NUMBERS

DUDE, I did not know that.

Numbers were kinda irritating, they seemed like something I should like but I sold the one record of theirs I bought (the one with the yellow cover)

dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:16 (four years ago) Permalink

heh, that's how i felt about the entirety of the tigerbeat scene and the extended idm/glitch electropunk axis

i had a roommate and coworker (still coworker) who is a pretty white-bready dude from wisconsin, very cool but also kind of a norm if that makes sense. and i was all CHECK OUT THIS RAD BAND FROM WISCONSIN!!!!! and he was like UHHHHHHH and i feel dumb now because i should've realized they are hipster transplants from SF

the late great, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:29 (four years ago) Permalink

love the new album cover too. very krautrock

krautrock w/ a spritz of chillwave

the late great, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:32 (four years ago) Permalink

for some reason I thought Peaking Lights lived up in Seattle / Portland thereabouts, didn't know they're in Madison

I'm seeing them at Woodsist Fest in August. them and Pierced Arrows are the bands I'm most stoked about on the bill.

dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:38 (four years ago) Permalink

not in madison anymore, moved to l.a. iirc

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:40 (four years ago) Permalink

haha well, there ya have it

dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:41 (four years ago) Permalink

perhaps you are thinking of mexican summer labelmates and fellow tripster power couple honey owens & adam forkner?

the late great, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 22:04 (four years ago) Permalink

i've had the bassline from 'midnight in the valley of shadows' in my head for the last couple days

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:21 (four years ago) Permalink

i have not heard peaking lights as far as i know but i will continue to hold the bias i have against them because i confuse them with pretty lights

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Friday, 15 June 2012 02:41 (four years ago) Permalink

also from wisconsin iirc?

non-peaking-lights-digging roommate was a big pretty lights fan.

the late great, Friday, 15 June 2012 05:16 (four years ago) Permalink

936 was one of my favorite records of 2011

It was my FAVORITE record of 2011. full stop

polyphonic, Friday, 15 June 2012 05:22 (four years ago) Permalink

pretty lights are def not from wisconsin, and are much worse. but i'm pretty sure that even the kids who love pretty lights don't listen to the records, they just go to the shows.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:44 (four years ago) Permalink

Peaking Lights dude's solo stuff as Faceplant mines a Zuckerzeit vibe. At least, it does on the split 12" with Bitchin Bajas.

Trip Maker, Friday, 15 June 2012 13:59 (four years ago) Permalink

i have not heard peaking lights as far as i know but i will continue to hold the bias i have against them because i confuse them with pretty lights

― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, June 14, 2012 10:41 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

don't think you'd like them

carly rae (flopson), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:22 (four years ago) Permalink

i liked 936, had a nice bullwackies vibe to it

am0n, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:48 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, 936 was amazing. i didn't really hear it until it landed on a bunch of year end lists (including ilx's?). i dig the mixes they put out occasionally, too.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:50 (four years ago) Permalink

i love how the first keyboard tone in "Live Love" = the startup noise for macs

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:13 (four years ago) Permalink

Listening to 936 just made me realise how completely my musical tastes have changed over the past 5 years. Like, 5 years ago, I would have been all over this record, I would have thought it was perfect. But now it's just strangely unsatisfying and I'm not sure exactly why.

a cake made of all their eyes (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 15 June 2012 20:35 (four years ago) Permalink

Bitchin Bajas

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 15 June 2012 20:50 (four years ago) Permalink

Listening to 936 just made me realise how completely my musical tastes have changed over the past 5 years. Like, 5 years ago, I would have been all over this record, I would have thought it was perfect. But now it's just strangely unsatisfying and I'm not sure exactly why.

Huh? I love this record. What do you mean? These tunes are stuck in my head for days, makes me want to iie on the grass in the park and drink prosecco all afternoon.

MikoMcha, Friday, 15 June 2012 22:11 (four years ago) Permalink

Loved '936' and am loving this new one, too. Damn is it sounding perfect on a hott Friday afternoon...

alpine static, Friday, 15 June 2012 22:35 (four years ago) Permalink

936 was great great great. Took me a while to get into it, but once it clicked, I loved it.

Out of curiosity, Lex: I remember you not taking to the whole echo-ey productioin on 936 back when first encountering it in the EOY threads. Has your opinion changed about that?

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 16 June 2012 02:06 (four years ago) Permalink

i'm kinda w white chocolate on 936. nice sounds and vibes, always enjoy it when it's on, but it doesn't inspire much devotion or excitement in me. tunes don't stick in my head - nothing does, really. prefer the scruffier early stuff, tbh. still looking fwd to the new one.

contenderizer, Saturday, 16 June 2012 03:54 (four years ago) Permalink

lex?

contenderizer, Saturday, 16 June 2012 03:54 (four years ago) Permalink

nm, i see, couple days back

contenderizer, Saturday, 16 June 2012 03:55 (four years ago) Permalink

I think it's just me that's in the wrong headspace. I put it on and I just kept wishing that the songs were over so I could go and listen to something else. I think it might be the roughness and the indie-ness that is bothering me. But that might also be down to me being stuck in a weird obsessive groove where I only want to listen to one kind of music at the moment. And this just sounds like a dub-flavoured pot noodle compared to what my ears are craving. I should probably give it another chance when I've got out of this obsessive streak.

a cake made of all their eyes (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 16 June 2012 06:47 (four years ago) Permalink

Lol it def is a dub-flavored pot noodle. Like I said, it didn't click right away for me. I had to listen to Belong and La Big Vic (and get some headphones) before I could fully appreciate it.

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 16 June 2012 12:26 (four years ago) Permalink

I've not been able to really get into 936 either. Might give it another go ahead of the new one but I know what you mean about strangely unsatisfying.

Matt DC, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:05 (four years ago) Permalink

Hmm. I should investigate all this, it seems to be bringing together a lot of different ILX tribes.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:27 (four years ago) Permalink

I must say I'm intrigued too.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:29 (four years ago) Permalink

If I'm gonna listen to Dub flavoured pot noodle, I'm gonna listen to someone like Rhythm & Sound or King Midas Sound which are probably the equivalent of those 59p fake pot noodle they sell in dodgy cornershops which actually taste ~amazing~ and really much better than actual Pot Noodle?

a cheesecake made of all their eyes (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:36 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah I tried to listen to 936 again and got bored about four songs in. I really like the aesthetic they're trying to go for but there's an unresolved tension between 'hazy sunshine' and 'dark smokey room' that doesn't quite work for me. There's a kind of pale indie drone kid approach to it as well, neither the basslines nor the tunes really hold my attention.

Will still give the new one a go though.

Matt DC, Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:52 (four years ago) Permalink

See, 5 years ago "pale indie drone kid" was totally my aesthetic, and now I feel the shame of an ex smoker about it. :-/

Also a Dub record without adequate bass is like a pot noodle without salt. You have left out the single most important ingredient.

a cheesecake made of all their eyes (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 16 June 2012 14:57 (four years ago) Permalink

Bassline for "All the Sun That Shines" is great.

robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:17 (four years ago) Permalink

Don't see either of these Peaking Lights albums as being straight dub, so the lack of bass isn't an issue.

Position Position, Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:37 (four years ago) Permalink

But the dubbiness is the thing that sets them apart from god knows how many other bands, in terms of making them interesting. Otherwise they'd just be x collection of chillwave signifiers all over again.

Matt DC, Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:56 (four years ago) Permalink

Interesting as a prospect I mean, unfortunately I'm not that interested in the music I've heard but I'm hearing enough there to want to keep trying.

Matt DC, Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:56 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah, i'm not a huge fan, but accusing 936 of being bad or fake dub misses the point. it's got some dub influence, but it isn't "dub music" per se (no more so than all those dub-influenced UK postpunk outfits). "indie drone" sounds pejorative but is fairly accurate. cousin to sun araw and emeralds. chillwave if we must.

contenderizer, Saturday, 16 June 2012 15:57 (four years ago) Permalink

It's not that it's fake dub or bad dub, it is just not dub.

I have finally, after 30 years or whatever, just reached the point where I've kinda listened to all the indie-drone I need in this lifetime.

I'm not criticising ppl who do like it! I'm just slightly disappointed I have no interest in this kind of music any more.

It's not you, Peaking Lights, it's me. Sorry. Bye.

a cheesecake made of all their eyes (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:43 (four years ago) Permalink

Somehow this got me thinking earlier of David J and his Bauhaus basslines; one reason why the band (and Love and Rockets for that matter) works is precisely because he was such a dub freak and wasn't trying to adapt it to a sound, instead it was the bedrock of a sound. (See also in a parallel place/context John Taylor indulging his inner Bernard Edwards.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 June 2012 16:47 (four years ago) Permalink

The rhythms are not dubby.

Yes they are.

The echoes are not dubby

Yes they are.

Dub doesn't have to be anything and doesn't have to be the thing you wanted or expected it to be, thankfully. It can be a shoegazy album with effects (not that i think this record is merely that). Saying that it sounds more like the Cocteaus than like a dub album does make me wonder if you have ears though.

jed_, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:59 (four years ago) Permalink

What? But that's like saying you don't have to be able to sit in a chair for it to be a chair. If I played you a Blur song and told you it was techno and then you said it wasn't techno, by this rationale I could say 'techno doesn't have to be the thing you want it to be'.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:02 (four years ago) Permalink

dl i think you're being overly prescriptive, something can be dubby or dub-influenced without having much in the way of roots reggae signifiers. that said i think PL have plenty in the way of roots reggae signifiers (organ chords and percussion on the upbeats a lot of the time, 8th note heavy reggae-ish basslines, etc)

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:05 (four years ago) Permalink

not sure if you (DL) are saying this after listening to the stream of the new one but it has a few tracks where the rhythms get fucked about w/ and are way less 'straight' than on Lucifer

an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:05 (four years ago) Permalink

well DL Dunis is merely putting this out as a dubbier version of her recent record which is what this is. You're judging it against a claim that she hasn't even made for it.

FWIW i find it a bit exhausting to listen to although a couple of the incarnations seem better, on first listen, than the straight versions.

jed_, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:11 (four years ago) Permalink

Jordan otm. I wouldn't ever call Peaking Lights "dub", but I would definitely say that they are heavily influenced by dub and that is made pretty obvious by the music.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:11 (four years ago) Permalink

I don't see how Peaking Lights' use of the word "dub" is in any way more controversial than a billion artists before them - early Seefeel strikes me as being a good point of comparison in this regard.

Tim F, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:16 (four years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to this now, Live Love as it happens, and seriously, these rhythms are no more dubby than anything else with a drum machine track and a bassline on it. In fact the beats land in a very grid-like way. I just don't see how this has any more of a dub influence than anything else with the odd phaser or echo effect thrown in. I don't think the note choices are particularly of classic dub, and besides the basslines are played really quite fast. If there's any sort of West Indian influence it would be something like early-mid '90s Bim Sherman type stuff which is more digital dancehall. Cosmic Tides, now yeah I guess the bassline is kind of dubby. But shit, it's a very plain and staid impression of dub. I can't help feeling it misses much of the point. But that's my opinion I guess.
I'll grant you the cocteau's comparison is tenuous though - it's more to do with the use of drum machines and dreamy female vox.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:18 (four years ago) Permalink

Fwiw I'm talking about lucifer

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:19 (four years ago) Permalink

That was a few xposts.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:21 (four years ago) Permalink

936 was much more overtly dub influenced so if you've heard that one first it's easier to hear the bits of it that are still there in Lucifer

dmr, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:22 (four years ago) Permalink

check out the new one linked above (the, uh, dub versions) or 936

xp

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:23 (four years ago) Permalink

seefeel use the dub to achieve a kind of stasis, though. this seems a bit manic but that's a fairly typical form of dub too. it's actually fairly close to the mad professor's take on protection but without the production chops imo. this is a bit headachy for me.

jed_, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:24 (four years ago) Permalink

but "no protection" is too.

jed_, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:24 (four years ago) Permalink

a bit headachy, i mean.

jed_, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:25 (four years ago) Permalink

Dunis is merely putting this out as a dubbier version of her recent record which is what this is

according to the press bumph the dub edits were Coyes' work - not sure if she had any further involvement

an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:28 (four years ago) Permalink

Xpost Well... I guess it's hard to separate dub signifiers from reggae signifiers anyway(for me at least). I always found dubstep to be a ponderous term because, despite the deep basslines an echoes, I couldn't really equate it with dub as far as my view of it went, if you see what I mean. As I say, dub for me in it's most vital sense is as much about the ebb and flow and 'feel' as it is about the rumbling bass and echoes because the latter two elements are pretty much ubiquitous throughout contemporary music anyway.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:29 (four years ago) Permalink

I def wanna check out the dub versions of these.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:30 (four years ago) Permalink

see i think what you like is actually reggae

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:31 (four years ago) Permalink

Never a truer word said ;-)

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:34 (four years ago) Permalink

But i can hear the dub influence in, for example Primal Scream's Vanishing Point and a lot of Andrew Weatherall's work, and little of that has much to do with reggae on an explicit level

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:38 (four years ago) Permalink

fwiw i don't like peaking lights as much as i think i could and the poor (imo) production values are the barrier. even in those podcasts she put out, 6 hours of mixes (i use the word loosely) some amazing track selections but woeful sequencing & jarring segues. that was obviously what she was going for though, for some reason.

jed_, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:38 (four years ago) Permalink

The word "dub" was also used in the 1980s for instrumental versions of vocal club tracks. A lot of these "dubs" weren't really all that "dubby".

brimstead, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:43 (four years ago) Permalink

it's 'he' that does all those mixes iirc

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:44 (four years ago) Permalink

ah ok.

jed_, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:46 (four years ago) Permalink

lol dog latin how do you feel about the term 'dub techno'?

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 02:28 (four years ago) Permalink

confused because it means different things to different people. are we talking, like, Basic Channel or Dreadzone or what?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 10:56 (four years ago) Permalink

usually people mean dreadzone, when they talk about dub techno yes.

who are basic channel, btw?

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 11:01 (four years ago) Permalink

how'd you get to be so smart, ronan?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 11:17 (four years ago) Permalink

more like dreadfulzone amirite

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 11:28 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

this is great! i didn't realize it was mastered by sonic boom before, but that makes a lot of sense.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:46 (four years ago) Permalink

finally checked out Lucifer In Dub. not really any reason to listen to it instead of just putting on Lucifer imo.

dmr, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:55 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

new one kinda sux :-(

the late great, Thursday, 2 October 2014 02:50 (two years ago) Permalink

sounds like tom tom club, sort of, just not good

the late great, Thursday, 2 October 2014 02:52 (two years ago) Permalink

huh ... I do think Breakdown sounds like Tom Tom Club but in a good way ... haven't heard the whole record

dmr, Thursday, 2 October 2014 03:02 (two years ago) Permalink

having a hard time getting through this. i feel like if you have a singer who is, let's say, 'not conventionally good', you have to take a lot more care to flatter them. the vocals sound uncomfortably exposed here since the music is so much more stripped down.

musically it sounds like record collector late '70s/early '80s electro funk to me, which is cool i guess, but not nearly as appealing to me as 936-style diy dub.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 15:43 (two years ago) Permalink

i read the tom tom club comments and got really excited for a second because i mistakenly thought i had the grouper thread open instead of the peaking lights thread

james brooks, Thursday, 2 October 2014 17:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Breakdown stands heads and shoulders above the rest of this, which is nice enough but not brilliant and the vocals are definitely much more of an issue here.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:59 (two years ago) Permalink

this record by some labelmates of mine captures a similar feeling to early PL, imo (also happen to be a married duo): https://hushhushrecords.bandcamp.com/album/secret-angles

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:44 (two years ago) Permalink

Not that we really need anymore proof that the NME are utterly useless but this review shows just how little they even try anymore.

http://www.nme.com/reviews/peaking-lights/15687

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 12 October 2014 04:00 (two years ago) Permalink

That cannot be a review of the same record I've listened to.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 12 October 2014 09:15 (two years ago) Permalink

The first line made me smile.

I really wanted to like this record :-/

Tim F, Sunday, 12 October 2014 10:28 (two years ago) Permalink

is there something obvious I'm missing about that review that makes it bad enough to be highlighted for scorn? just reads like a completely standard downpager to me

well-behaved wingmen really hate Mystery (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 12 October 2014 11:04 (two years ago) Permalink

Most obviously, the reviewer is totally unaware that they made an album in between 936 and this one.

Tim F, Sunday, 12 October 2014 11:12 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's basically why I thought it was such a half arsed review. When you're writing a review that is so short surely checking your facts would be a must.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 12 October 2014 14:04 (two years ago) Permalink

lol gotcha

need to give the new one some proper attention, all I took in from a couple of spins thus far was that it sounds much more polished

well-behaved wingmen really hate Mystery (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 12 October 2014 15:26 (two years ago) Permalink

It pains me to say things like this, because I really like this band, but this new one isn't for me at all. I'll still buy the next one, but, err, three tries with this and I think I dislike it more each time. That "telephone call from space" song is awful. Why do smart people write lyrics like this??

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 18 October 2014 21:14 (two years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

I feel like the Lucifer in Dub EP might be their best work. Really plays to their strengths (ie not songwriting/vocals although I enjoy them in spots).

klonman, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 22:31 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

New Peaking Lights

https://soundcloud.com/peakinglights/everytime-i-see-the-light

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Thursday, 13 April 2017 20:04 (one week ago) Permalink


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