Warp229 is the upcoming album by Grizzly Bear. Released September 18 2012.
Track listing
1. Sleeping Ute2. Speak in Rounds3. Adelma4. Yet Again5. The Hunt6. A Simple Answer7. What's Wrong8. gun-shy9. Half Gate10. Sun in Your Eyes
― Bee OK, Thursday, 7 June 2012 05:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Bee OK, Thursday, 7 June 2012 06:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
never liked anything by these guys before, but "Sleeping Ute" is awesome
― mizzell, Wednesday, June 6, 2012 11:04 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― mizzell, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah great song
theres something Dirty Projectos-y/Deerhoof-y about it.
awesome sound.
― nostormo, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
ya i'm a fan of their usual boring selves but this turbulent thing is a good vibe for them.
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's yes-y
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's weird I think earlier on in their career they kept getting compared to akron family and I couldn't see it cuz those dudes were like 1000x better musicians w/ 1000x better ideas or w/e but this song is p akron
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
also idk akfam don't really exist now or something
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
they're definitely embracing their interesting side here, i like it.
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
akron family kinda jammy tho aren't they, this is focused
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
great! indie record of the year?
― nostormo, Friday, 3 August 2012 21:18 (10 months ago) Permalink
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:17 (1 month ago) Permalink
If by "those dudes" you mean akron family I strongly disagree with this statement
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 August 2012 21:22 (10 months ago) Permalink
Akron had two ideas. Which worked pretty well for an album and an EP
― Number None, Friday, 3 August 2012 21:37 (10 months ago) Permalink
I did mean akfam by those dudes
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 3 August 2012 21:40 (10 months ago) Permalink
I like both bands tho! I'm just saying that that earlier song was the first grizzly bear song that lived up to that comparison or w/e
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 3 August 2012 21:42 (10 months ago) Permalink
new album now is called Shields and is set to be released on September 18, 2012.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:33 (10 months ago) Permalink
i think Warp229 is actually the catalog number.
love the newer song as well, this is going to be a great album.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 15:34 (10 months ago) Permalink
i kind of liked Warp229 as an album title.
― mizzell, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:47 (10 months ago) Permalink
Yet Again sounds like Cass McCombs
― mizzell, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:54 (10 months ago) Permalink
Is it weird that I think Yet Again sounds a little like Hot Chip?
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 20:19 (10 months ago) Permalink
I think it just sounds like Coldplay.
― Turangalila, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 00:26 (10 months ago) Permalink
Coldplay? Nonsense. This is really good. Seems to be continuing in the tumbling momentum and melodicism of Southern Point, which was my favourite off Veckatimest.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 1 September 2012 13:53 (9 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, I really like this and I'm anticipating a slew of high praise, the highest praise
― nedless summer (Ówen P.), Saturday, 1 September 2012 14:32 (9 months ago) Permalink
Somehow they pull off sounding both like a dusty artefact and something modern and new, too.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 1 September 2012 14:47 (9 months ago) Permalink
I love how those two tracks sound. Very band in a room.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 1 September 2012 14:55 (9 months ago) Permalink
Nick, you genuinely hear melodicism of note on Yet Again? I like GB, but that melody gets on my nerves.
― some white dude (Turangalila), Saturday, 1 September 2012 22:07 (9 months ago) Permalink
no one's mentioned whiney chilling and eating BBQ with them in Park Slope.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 September 2012 22:14 (9 months ago) Permalink
That definitely must have occurred pre-Yet Again.
― some white dude (Turangalila), Saturday, 1 September 2012 22:35 (9 months ago) Permalink
no one's mentioned whiney chilling and eating BBQ with them in Park Slope. --a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
Can't believe you didn't go with "grillin and chillin"
― jjjdoom (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 2 September 2012 13:12 (9 months ago) Permalink
I dunno if I'd use "chillin" to describe their expressions in the photos.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 September 2012 13:14 (9 months ago) Permalink
2nd song sounds like The Dodos
― nostormo, Sunday, 2 September 2012 15:02 (9 months ago) Permalink
2nd song ("Speak in rounds") is a skyscraping career high afaic. Excellent marriage of Ed + Dan songwriting styles, love hearing Ed sing like Dan, Dan sing like Ed, love love love. I'm a sucker for the motorik style and VI -> #vi tho
― nedless summer (Ówen P.), Sunday, 2 September 2012 15:54 (9 months ago) Permalink
so i guess you like the record?
― nostormo, Sunday, 2 September 2012 17:54 (9 months ago) Permalink
nah it's shit
― nedless summer (Ówen P.), Sunday, 2 September 2012 18:45 (9 months ago) Permalink
'Gun-Shy' is the track I'm loving at the moment.
― pandemic, Monday, 3 September 2012 09:42 (9 months ago) Permalink
Nick, you genuinely hear melodicism of note on Yet Again? I like GB, but that melody gets on my nerves.― some white dude (Turangalila), Saturday, 1 September 2012 23:07 (3 days ago)
― some white dude (Turangalila), Saturday, 1 September 2012 23:07 (3 days ago)
I'm talking more of the album as a whole than Yet Again, but I certainly don't find it annoying.
I don't get the same kind of melodicism from Grizzly Bear as I do from The Beatles or Bacharach - to my (untrained) ears what GB do is far more oblique and strange.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 08:38 (9 months ago) Permalink
Half Gate, guys!
― nostormo, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 20:28 (9 months ago) Permalink
Enjoying this record a lot. I couldn't even tell you what the stand out tracks are, it's taking a while to sink in. Which is great tbh.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:06 (9 months ago) Permalink
Sun In Your Eyes is a big fat glorious psychedelic epic
― caulk the wagon and float it, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 22:51 (9 months ago) Permalink
Not being a huge fan of this band I must admit this album is doing something right. I Keep coming back to it and liking it more and more with each listen.
― marginal victory, Friday, 7 September 2012 22:42 (9 months ago) Permalink
http://pitchfork.com/news/47798-stream-the-new-grizzly-bear-album-shields/
― djh, Sunday, 16 September 2012 19:06 (9 months ago) Permalink
9.1 well deserved even though I would have rated it higher. By far their best album.
― marginal victory, Monday, 17 September 2012 05:56 (9 months ago) Permalink
Not being a huge fan of this band I must admit this album is doing something right. I Keep coming back to it and liking it more and more with each listen.― marginal victory, Friday, September 7, 2012
― marginal victory, Friday, September 7, 2012
otm. i didn't "get" Veckawhateverist at all, but this just *sounds* great.
― alpine static, Monday, 17 September 2012 06:53 (9 months ago) Permalink
Local HMV hasn't even got any copies of this in yet; they're due 25 but they haven't arrived from the distributor yet. 12 years ago, my brother was the local rep for this distributor, and there's no fucking way they'd not have had copies of an album with this status in stores already; things really have changed.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 17 September 2012 09:03 (9 months ago) Permalink
Shameless self-linking http://www.uncut.co.uk/grizzly-bear-shields-review
― Stevie T, Monday, 17 September 2012 09:59 (9 months ago) Permalink
That's dull Sick Mouthy. I picked it up on vinyl in Fopp. They must've had a good half dozen plus loads of CD's.
I feel like I'm the only one that's been holding off hearing this until I can get a physical copy. Then again that's how I feel with most new releases these days.
A 9+ review on Pitchfork must boost sales big time. Will be interested to see how much bigger they get.
― InternetAlan, Monday, 17 September 2012 10:45 (9 months ago) Permalink
Got a copy!
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 17 September 2012 17:09 (9 months ago) Permalink
does jay-z like this record?
― nose, Monday, 17 September 2012 18:40 (9 months ago) Permalink
Jay Z loves it. Can't get enough of it. I think i saw him buy like 50 copies at Other Music today during the listening party. He's really REALLY INTO it. Jay LOVES IT
― marginal victory, Monday, 17 September 2012 23:02 (9 months ago) Permalink
i haven't bought a CD is awhile now, going to buy this one.
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 04:11 (9 months ago) Permalink
i read your post i just didn't clue in that those were the first 2 tracks on veckatimest
― flopson, Friday, 12 October 2012 18:11 (8 months ago) Permalink
Southern Point is also my favorite GB thing
― has important things to say about gangnam style (Hurting 2), Friday, 12 October 2012 18:14 (8 months ago) Permalink
I love how the last two minutes of "What's wrong" sounds like it could have come from the Mark Hollis solo album. Has anyone else noticed that?
― Rob M Revisited, Friday, 12 October 2012 18:37 (8 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, they do, totally. The choirs I just mentioned are channelling I Believe In You, too.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 12 October 2012 18:48 (8 months ago) Permalink
great to see this crossing over both commercially but also critically to people who might have ignored/written off the first few records as too pitchforky indie for them.
― Jamie_ATP, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:27 (8 months ago) Permalink
Listening to this straight through from Veckatimest. Again. Awesome.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 19 October 2012 13:50 (8 months ago) Permalink
I guess I will have to try again, as I don't hear such awesomeness. There's this laidback granola aspect that I need to work through to appreciate this, I think.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 19 October 2012 14:53 (8 months ago) Permalink
I think, a bit like late-period Talk Talk, people sometimes forget or don't notice the bits when Grizzly Bear fucking pummell, and come away with the impression that it's just wistful harmonies and acoustic guitar arpeggios when actually there's a huge amount of dynamism and thumping and drama here too.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 19 October 2012 14:56 (8 months ago) Permalink
I'm sticking picking up new things from "Shields" with each listen. Current favourite moment, 1:40 to 1:50 of "A simple answer" just coming out of the first chorus, a chord change and hinted melody that most people would jump on and ride into the distance, but they just do it once and leave it. I could happily loop that ten seconds for a while.
― Rob M Revisited, Friday, 19 October 2012 15:45 (8 months ago) Permalink
there are things about this record that i love: how eerie and jazzy is "what's wrong"! how tight are they as a unit on "sleeping ute"! "yet again" sort of reminds me of aimee mann's "the moth" which is a hell of a melody to recall!
but otherwise my attention drifts
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 19 October 2012 19:46 (8 months ago) Permalink
finally getting kind of sick of this album after non-stop play for two weeks
― akm, Friday, 19 October 2012 19:57 (8 months ago) Permalink
Rob M I commend thee to go and get Veckatimest this instant.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:01 (7 months ago) Permalink
Or command, or whatever.
http://sickmouthy.com/2012/10/21/on-grizzly-bear-on-a-sunday-morning/
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 21 October 2012 09:48 (7 months ago) Permalink
Newport record shops haven't got Veckawhatever, will take trip to Cardiff to get it this week.
― Rob M Revisited, Sunday, 21 October 2012 10:38 (7 months ago) Permalink
"Gun-Shy" crazily tuneful
― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 21 October 2012 11:27 (7 months ago) Permalink
Great piece, Nick. Am now thinking I should probably revisit Veckatimest, as I'd never fully warmed to it.
― doug watson, Sunday, 21 October 2012 11:28 (7 months ago) Permalink
mr mouthy you should hear horn of plenty, it's a great collection of songs. far far removed from what GB have become but I loved it when it came out, and gave it a listen recently and it still stands up.
― akm, Sunday, 21 October 2012 16:52 (7 months ago) Permalink
I disagree, I love Horn of Plenty to bits but don't think it'd be Nick's bagAlthough I would recommend to you the A+ Simon Bookish remix of "Eavesdropping"
― sharp-looking tux for rent (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:17 (7 months ago) Permalink
wasn't aware of this till recentlywhere these guys are coming from hits home a little more now
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 21 October 2012 21:17 (7 months ago) Permalink
Despite the fact that 'Shields' sounds like an open and dynamic production I'm reading lots of talk about the CD version being brickwalled. I picked it up on vinyl so I can't really comment, I have heard 'Veckatimest' on CD and vinyl and I thought they both sounded great.
If it is true it's a real shame that an album as sonically nuanced as ‘Shields’ is as likely as any other to be molested at the mastering stage.
― Internet Alan, Monday, 22 October 2012 08:55 (7 months ago) Permalink
That's crazy talk. It doesn't sound like Diana Krall, certainly, but it sounds great.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:17 (7 months ago) Permalink
I'd like to think so but this doesn't look too good.
http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=27146
― Internet Alan, Monday, 22 October 2012 09:20 (7 months ago) Permalink
That means nothing; trust your ears!
Saying that, here's a couple of waveforms.
Top= Speak In Rounds, bottom = While You Wait For The Others.
Yes, it's loud(er than Rid of Me!), but it's not noticably clipped at all, there's plenty of movement, headroom, and, most importantly, it sounds wonderful; the timbres, separation, etc etc etc.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:34 (7 months ago) Permalink
Fuck you, photobucket.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:35 (7 months ago) Permalink
I know that waveforms do not tell the whole story but that's good to see. Sure it looks busy but it also looks like there's some headroom.
Like I said, I've not heard the CD at all so I was just throwing it out there to see if anyone who has had any opinions.
― Internet Alan, Monday, 22 October 2012 09:38 (7 months ago) Permalink
It's very easy to get obsessed with numbers and perfection and so on, but it's not really very useful. I'm a lot more pragmatic now than I used to be. Speak in Rounds is the 'rockiest' track on Shields, and if it gets up to peak without shaving edges off during the rockiest bit, then so be it.
God knows what Dr Loudness War's stats actually mean, but putting them together like that is like comparing a Ferrari to a Golf to a Transit van based purely on size of engine and BHP, without looking at them or test driving them or considering what they're actually for.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:46 (7 months ago) Permalink
Hidden by TNP gets a shite rating on there - http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=14461
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:52 (7 months ago) Permalink
Appears that it was sympathetically mastered. Found this illuminating and in depth article with the mastering engineer.
http://www.sonicscoop.com/2012/09/13/behind-the-release-grizzly-bear-shields/
While I’m glad that people are paying more attention to things like dynamic range nowadays I am increasingly getting frustrated at people yelling “brickwalled” at anything with a busy waveform rather than, as Nick points out, trusting your ears in the first instance. The stuff I heard about the ‘Shields’ CD originated on an audiophile forum and often they are the worst for judging sonics primarily on, often arbitrary, numbers.
― Internet Alan, Monday, 22 October 2012 09:53 (7 months ago) Permalink
Ha, Plumb by Field Music, which has a note in the sleeve about lack of DRC in mastering, gets a rubbish rating: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=18328
Rock albums are by their nature not that dynamic - rock's meant to be loud and exciting, it's not classical music or jazz.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:56 (7 months ago) Permalink
lol @ The Drift only scoring in 'transition'. http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=21912
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 09:57 (7 months ago) Permalink
I do disagree that the dynamic range database is a total waste of time mind you. While it's not the be all and end of an albums fidelity it is one amongst many ways (specral analysis, waveforms etc) of trying to quantify the quality of an audio recording. One of the major reasons I buy new vinyl is because often a seperate (hopefully high resolution) master is used. Loads of modern CD's seem sadly to be made for the car/to be ripped to mp3 and as such get over compressed and limited.
― Internet Alan, Monday, 22 October 2012 09:58 (7 months ago) Permalink
Also, I agree on the point about rock being meant to be loud. With that in mind those TNP and Field Music LP's look ok.
This is as bad as to be expected however.
http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=7123
― Internet Alan, Monday, 22 October 2012 10:03 (7 months ago) Permalink
That mixing interview is great.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 10:13 (7 months ago) Permalink
Desire from Spirit of Eden only gets a red 8, but it's also the track with the fucking huge awesome overwhelming thunderstorm of drums.
http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=7452
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 10:15 (7 months ago) Permalink
To be honest the SACD and recent vinyl remaster, as well as the original 1988 CD issue all sound better to my ears than that remaster of Spirit of Eden. That database seems to highlight that as well.
― Internet Alan, Monday, 22 October 2012 10:17 (7 months ago) Permalink
I've only ever heard the 97 CD. I'm happy with it!
THis is interesting - http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=10694 - because I know from someone in the band that this vinyl release was a needle-drop from the CD master and they were fucking furious.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 10:19 (7 months ago) Permalink
The 97 CD was my first copy and the one I grew to love but you should really check out the high Rez or original CD as well.
Needledrop or CD masters being used for records should be a crime.
― Internet Alan, Monday, 22 October 2012 10:22 (7 months ago) Permalink
Cosmogramma... http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/details.php?id=5448
Ouch.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 10:35 (7 months ago) Permalink
Going back to something I mentioned yesterday, Newport HMV must have heard my silent cry and I now have "Veckatimest" - plus "Soon over Babaluma" in the '2 for £10' offer. Hurrah.
Regarding SoE, I have the 97 CD and was happy with it until I picked up a recent TT best of for £3, mainly for "John Cope", and the remastering on "Wealth" and the single edit of "I believe in you" sounded so good and so much better. If I see the new remaster of SoE at a decent price I'll pick it up.
"Shields" doesn't sound brickwalled to me, and it's your ears that decide whether it sounds good at the end of the day.
― Rob M Revisited, Monday, 22 October 2012 13:46 (7 months ago) Permalink
Love John Cope.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 13:49 (7 months ago) Permalink
wtf album sounds fine and is perfectly dynamic, what is this, the steve hoffman board?
― akm, Monday, 22 October 2012 15:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
Nah, it wasn't on the Hoffman board. Those guy's are crazy.
It was on a private torrent tracker.
― Internet Alan, Monday, 22 October 2012 15:48 (7 months ago) Permalink
I was a big fan of these guys but here my problem is that what you guys are saying is absolutely true, but I don't hear much else going on. It's all lovely to the ear and dynamic in its way but for me it seems to just float around on that plateau of loveliness-in-variation without much else to distinguish it song by song. Listening to it, quite intently, for I think the third time, at one point I accidentally skipped to another track and couldn't for the life of me work out which one I'd just been listening to. I'm sure there are good counterarguments and I'm sure it's my fault but I'M COMPLAINING ANYWAY.
― Perfect Chicken Forever (Merdeyeux), Monday, 22 October 2012 15:57 (7 months ago) Permalink
Took me several listens to star pulling the songs apart, definitely. Half a dozen at least.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 October 2012 19:04 (7 months ago) Permalink
My only negative point of the album would be The Hunt, or maybe the fact that is placed in the middle of the album.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 22 October 2012 19:39 (7 months ago) Permalink
merdeyeux I felt that way after the first few listens. I still kind of feel that way about the last album, actually. but this one really came together to me.
― akm, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 04:09 (7 months ago) Permalink
posted an as-far-as-i-know mostly-unreleased old Grizzly Bear song on stg this week:http://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/unpredicting.php
― sean gramophone, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:30 (7 months ago) Permalink
http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/12/19/grizzly-bear-shields-round-42-nicks-choice/
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:54 (6 months ago) Permalink
i have been totally emerging myself into this album. listening to it on head phones and loving all those little parts. it no way can compare to Veckatimest as that album has better songs. this album, however, is a pleasure and i'm glad i bought it.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 2 March 2013 03:31 (3 months ago) Permalink