http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/meet-the-new-boss-worse-than-the-old-boss-full-post/Can we talk about this? I know there are lots of threads on file sharing and the state of the music today, but I feel this needs more thought. There seems to be such a wide gap between fans of music or bloggers, artist themselves, and everyone in between. Not that this is news, but I like David Lowery's perspective on this. Are his facts solid? Also Yoga records has been getting a lot of trashing about for asking to remove his reissue of the Ted Lucas record, which indirectly led to mediafire removing all of this blog'ss links. http://calmintrees.blogspot.com/2012/05/money-records.html
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:16 (11 months ago) Permalink
Musicians are constantly derided by the Digerati. It’s usually after someone like myself suggest that if other people are profiting from distributing an artist’s work (Kim Dotcom, Mediafire, Megavideo, Mp3tunes,) they should share some of their proceeds with the artists. At this point the Digerati then proceed to call us “dinosaurs”, “know nothings” or worse. Suddenly your Facebook page is filled with angry comments from their followers that seem to all be unsuccessful Canadian hip hop artists who proclaim:
“We are gonna turn you into Lars Ulrich and bitch your band sucks anyway”.
― some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
David Lowery otm
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
when was Lowery a quant?
― how's life, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
Lots of strawman arguments, yay! (Which isn't to say i don't agree with him, but the tone, and some of the actual arguments are a little rough...I mean, how much time does he need to spend giving his 'nerd cred' and disparaging the 'freehadists' and 'canadian rappers')
― Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:47 (11 months ago) Permalink
strawman? dude trots out a lot of data imho
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:48 (11 months ago) Permalink
Not enough time spent disparaging Canadian rappers imho.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:48 (11 months ago) Permalink
he's got a chip on his shoulder but i mean judging from his songwriting that's just his personality, the actual content is a pretty worthwhile read
― some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
What's the future of the music industry?
Earlier discussion of earlier expressed Lowery views here
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 18:04 (11 months ago) Permalink
It's interesting to read the comments on the micro in the trees blog artist/blogger/labels alongside David Lowery's article. Also Neil Young's recent coming out in favor seems to have given fuel to the "music should be free camp". I dunno.
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
lol Neil Young won't give away shit
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 22:03 (11 months ago) Permalink
his records cost like $50 and he aggressively goes after copyright violators etc
So you might have seen this:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2012/06/16/154863819/i-never-owned-any-music-to-begin-with?sc=fb&cc=fmp
Mr. Lowery has a response:
http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/2012/06/18/letter-to-emily-white-at-npr-all-songs-considered/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 June 2012 17:02 (11 months ago) Permalink
Take the interns bowling!
― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 17:08 (11 months ago) Permalink
"All I require is the ability to listen to what I want, when I want and how I want it. Is that too much to ask?"
Dear Emily, We will see what we can do. Hang in there and keep on trying! Remember, everyone is a winner. All the best, Scott
P.S. I was gonna tell you to go fuck yourself, but that would have been rude and I know how sensitive young people are these days.
― scott seward, Monday, 18 June 2012 17:37 (11 months ago) Permalink
that was super awesome
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Monday, 18 June 2012 17:44 (11 months ago) Permalink
pretty well-reasoned argument.
aside from bootleggy/live stuff (which i assume lowery is a-OK with: http://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3ACracker), things like mog and spotify have brought my downloading pretty much to an end. there really isn't a good excuse for it.
― tylerw, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:13 (11 months ago) Permalink
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Monday, June 18, 2012 12:44 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this
spotify stinks, because their business model is to interjects ads into the listening experience. i can't imagine david byrne wanted that there should be a guy selling me vodka between every third song on "fear of music." i'll just buy the fucking album.
that should be a general response to folks like the NPR intern lowery is responding to. JBTFA.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 18 June 2012 18:19 (11 months ago) Permalink
are there still ads if you have a subscription? i subscribe to mog and it's ad free. and cheap!
― tylerw, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:19 (11 months ago) Permalink
i wasn't even aware you could buy a subscription. what is mog?
ha, i'm obviously not very up on the details of this new business model. i just buy a lot of LPs. and download old jonathan richman concerts on torrent sites.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 18 June 2012 18:25 (11 months ago) Permalink
― JacobSanders, Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:00 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
not only is NY a hypocrite (see above) but lowery deals with precisely this phenomenon in his articles. those least negatively impacted by filesharing and the iTunes regime are those who have already profited from years and often decades of major-label publicity and career-building, so have a built-in large audience. see also radiohead. so it's a fuck of a lot easier for thom yorke or neil young to say "this is the new reality, deal with it" than somebody trying to build a career in music or even sustain a longer career without the kind of mass adulation those dudes apparently take for granted.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 18 June 2012 18:33 (11 months ago) Permalink
And believe it or not this is where the problem with Spotify starts. The internet is full of stories from artists detailing just how little they receive from Spotify. I shan’t repeat them here. They are epic. Spotify does not exist in a vacuum. The reason they can get away with paying so little to artists is because the alternative is The ‘Net where people have already purchased all the gear they need to loot those songs for free. Now while something like Spotify may be a solution for how to compensate artists fairly in the future, it is not a fair system now. As long as the consumer makes the unethical choice to support the looters, Spotify will not have to compensate artists fairly. There is simply no market pressure. Yet Spotify’s CEO is the 10th richest man in the UK music industry ahead of all but one artist on his service.
― omar little, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
xxp mog is basically the same as spotify. $4.99 a month gets you unlimited listening. spotify has a slightly better interface, but we can stream mog through roku and mog has some artists that are missing on spotify.
― tylerw, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:51 (11 months ago) Permalink
Yet Spotify’s CEO is the 10th richest man in the UK music industry ahead of all but one artist on his service.
This is apples and oranges, though. There's a lot more money in tech than there is music.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:51 (11 months ago) Permalink
David Lowery tackles the intern
― buzza, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
There's a lot more money in tech than there is music.
funny how that's worked out
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 18 June 2012 18:58 (11 months ago) Permalink
the npr intern killed vic chesnutt with the internet, holy shit
― adam, Monday, 18 June 2012 18:59 (11 months ago) Permalink
well it's kind of an OTT point but to be sure lots of full-time musicians on the fringe were already financially scuffling along before downloading came along so i can see how the sea change possibly destroyed some careers insofar as them being something that could support someone's ability to live a decent life and pay the bills.
― omar little, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:04 (11 months ago) Permalink
xp nah, it goes back to way before people ever dreamed of online access to music. Bill Gates already had more money before Radiohead's first album than that band will make for their entire career.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:05 (11 months ago) Permalink
i am late to this thread and am surprised this para was not commented on:
But I didn't illegally download (most) of my songs. A few are, admittedly, from a stint in the 5th grade with the file-sharing program Kazaa. Some are from my family. I've swapped hundreds of mix CDs with friends. My senior prom date took my iPod home once and returned it to me with 15 gigs of Big Star, The Velvet Underground and Yo La Tengo (I owe him one).
the last sentence and arguably the second-to-last contradicts the first.
― goole, Monday, 18 June 2012 19:36 (11 months ago) Permalink
well yeah, she basically doesn't understand what "illegal download" means
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:37 (11 months ago) Permalink
My senior prom date took my iPod home once and returned it to me with 15 gigs of Big Star, The Velvet Underground and Yo La Tengo (I owe him one).
would all of those band's catalogs, at say 256k, even equal 15 gigs?
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:38 (11 months ago) Permalink
maybe she meant live bootlegs?
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Monday, 18 June 2012 19:43 (11 months ago) Permalink
i assume those are just some of the bands whose music her boyfriend copied for her.
it's a bit bizarre that somehow to her copying 1,000s of songs en masse off an iPod is somehow better than downloading off a torrent site or whatever. the kids of her generation have really made rationalization into an incredibly subtle art.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:55 (11 months ago) Permalink
no subtlety about it
pour one out for rollie pimperton
― the hat's filthy lesson (sic), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 00:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
and Buck 65!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 00:25 (11 months ago) Permalink
Maestro Fresh Wes
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 00:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
did Wes ever post on ILX?
― the hat's filthy lesson (sic), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 02:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
Man I wish
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 03:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
"subtle" was kind of ironic, she just uses some tortured logic to ease her conscience, that's all.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:21 (11 months ago) Permalink
xposst Yes: her understanding appeared to be that it's only illegal downloading if you do it from a file-sharing service. It's not illegal downloading if you copy 11,000 songs, laboriously, from other people's CDs.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
Uh isn't that basically a correct assessment?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:44 (11 months ago) Permalink
No
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:54 (11 months ago) Permalink
So burning a CD is illegal downloading (regardless of the # of songs)?
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 13:55 (11 months ago) Permalink
Illegal copying, I think the owner of the original can make backup, but not give it to another person
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:09 (11 months ago) Permalink
Or were you being pendantic about the word ”downloading”?
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
^^^
― Victory Chainsaw! (DJP), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:15 (11 months ago) Permalink
I am being pedantic, but I sorta rankle at the idea that this is all settled law like we can point at every activity and be like "yeah this is all the same and clearly wrong and illegal and people who do it are disgusting savages", etc.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
cracker david lowery
― am0n, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:42 (11 months ago) Permalink
― am0n, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 14:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
no, just a confusion.
― ratso piazzolla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 00:55 (10 months ago) Permalink
there wasn't/isn't one single retro-80's band/artist from the 90's or 2000's that came up with anything as cool as any one of a dozen gang of four songs. and i'm not even a superfan or anything. just stating a fact.
who was i reading an interview with....someone from gang of four was producing their album...red hot chili peppers! anyway the gang of four dude kept telling them that they HAD to make the album more commercial and slicker the whole time they were in the studio with him. and that was all they way back in like 1983.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 00:57 (10 months ago) Permalink
The recording of the album was not a smooth process. Andy Gill and the band fought over creative issues, with Gill directing them towards a more "radio-friendly" sound. This caused a lot of tension between the band and Gill which made the recording process particularly difficult. The band pulled many pranks on Gill, in spite of him, throughout the recording process, one being Flea giving a pizza box filled with crap to Gill, and one of the mixers running away screaming from the studio.[1] In Kiedis' autobiography Scar Tissue, he says that he was devastated when he saw that Gill had written the word "shit" next to the title of the song "Police Helicopter" on a notepad, as it was one of the first songs they had written and in Kiedis' words "It embodied the spirit of the band which was the kinetic, stabbing, angular, shocking assault force of sound and energy". The band were said to not be pleased with the production on the album, preferring the demo versions they had recorded earlier with Slovak and Irons.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 00:59 (10 months ago) Permalink
officially licensed crass tote bags kinda makes me cry a little.
http://www.punkandpissed.com/crass-classic-circle-logo-tote-bag.html
― scott seward, Monday, June 25, 2012 5:50 PM (10 minutes ago)
I feel your pain
― sleeve, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 01:01 (10 months ago) Permalink
crass commercialism
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 01:07 (10 months ago) Permalink
if G04's one experiment with recording a commercial breakthrough is any indication, then, heh, Andy Gill had no business telling the Chili Peppers how to record a commercial record.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 01:09 (10 months ago) Permalink
How does one go from being a situationist-marxist punk to branding?
I've always wondered how Gang of Four went from Marxists to crossing a picket line in order to play a show (which they did in British Columbia in 1982).
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:17 (10 months ago) Permalink
Well they were basically a bunch of full of shit students dudes in a rock band that ultimately didn't care that much
Good band though
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:24 (10 months ago) Permalink
most punks from the past have sold their souls a little bit at least. and in most cases a lot. no big deal. its called survival.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:36 (10 months ago) Permalink
Yeah I mean, listen it was a bunch of jive that sounded cool when they were 20, anyway ppl that are really trying to do something usually become activists or get into politics instead of rock bands
Maybe joan baez is the exception, she seems pretty punk in terms of keeping it real
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:39 (10 months ago) Permalink
I guess fugazi never sold out but at the same time most of their politics seemed like they were about being fugazi
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:40 (10 months ago) Permalink
rollins on the other hand...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:43 (10 months ago) Permalink
henry is keeping it real by buying five zillion chillwave and noise tapes a year.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:44 (10 months ago) Permalink
Pete Seeger never wavered. Dude's closing in on 100, too.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:44 (10 months ago) Permalink
Yeah seeger is right on
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:47 (10 months ago) Permalink
henry gives a shoutout to my favorite current record label utech on his radio show thing so he's okay with me. plus he bought a pricy record from me this year that nobody else would buy so he's doubly okay with me:
http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/hr/hr120623kcrw_broadcast_170
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:49 (10 months ago) Permalink
i thought everyone hated on pete seeger for the whole stealing song copyrights thing.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:50 (10 months ago) Permalink
I never dug his music, but I never new/heard anything about stealing copyrights (thought that was mostly Alan Lomax' territory). He refused to name names for HUAC, so for that alone he's OK in my book.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:52 (10 months ago) Permalink
ugh new = knew
well, there is the famous wimoweh thing. and he would also take traditional songs and copyright his versions of them. but i guess that's not a big deal.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 02:58 (10 months ago) Permalink
actually looking at the wiki stuff on it its all very complicated and involves weavers management and god only knows what happened there. there was a good new yorker article about it once. and a movie!
but i don't really think that too many people hate pete seeger.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 03:05 (10 months ago) Permalink
my only problem with pete is all the old folkways albums he would barge in on. dude had to be on everything. Music of the Saharan African (featuring Pete Seeger, banjo)
― scott seward, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 03:06 (10 months ago) Permalink
Pete Seeger, the Bill Laswell of his era.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 03:13 (10 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, June 25, 2012 7:39 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 06:07 (10 months ago) Permalink
weren't UK punk very aesthetics-oriented? like they spent a lot of time making the cool ZZ thing in the buzzcocks logo.
Yeah there were quite a few notable design-type people involved in UK punk. Jamie Reid obviously, Barney Bubbles' work for Stiff. Malcolm Garrett did the Buzzcocks covers and they also used Linder artwork once or twice. Go4 started off on Fast Product, which had quite a strong aesthetic too. I love all that stuff, so many 7" sleeves from that era look great.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 08:37 (10 months ago) Permalink
― like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:07 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
which makes it all the more embarrassing that greil marcus et al wrote entire essays on the subversive brilliance of the lyrics to "anthrax" etc.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 05:10 (10 months ago) Permalink
anthrax is great though! and totally worth writing about. i mean i've never read an essay on the song, but i could see it. there are two versions of the song too so there's plenty talk about. okay "subversive brilliance" might be going to far, but i'd rather read about that song than a clash song or something.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 13:16 (10 months ago) Permalink
i would read an essay just about the bass sound to be honest. when is someone going to write an entire book about the post-punk bass? if i were smarter i would write a book about u.k. love of bass. from freakbeat and rock to reggae love to punk and postpunk to goth to drum & bass and dubstep, etc, etc. maybe simon will do one.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 13:23 (10 months ago) Permalink
you should do that scott, you are smarter
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 13:26 (10 months ago) Permalink
i dunno, i always thought Go4's lyrics were fun, and thought-provoking. i don't need every lyricsheet to read like lucinda williams.
i wonder if any writer has ever complained about ppl borrowing books from libraries, buying them at used bookstores, etc., and thus depriving them of any possible royalties.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:11 (10 months ago) Permalink
i sent a fan mail to a writer once saying how much enjoyed coming across his books in the library and he politely suggested i buy his books in the future. he also called the library, "the libe"
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:40 (10 months ago) Permalink
What else did Dean Koontz say?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:42 (10 months ago) Permalink
that he'd send several wraiths to suck Philip's blood.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:45 (10 months ago) Permalink
Typical.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2012 20:48 (10 months ago) Permalink
LMFAO Lowery is such a corporate shill, word has it hes been compensated to write this piece by certain insider members of the RIAA...so this isn't even a fuckin noble effort.
hard to believe that once out of the vaginal orifice we call his mouth music used to come
― coopdoggydogg, Friday, 29 June 2012 16:09 (10 months ago) Permalink
"hard to believe that once out of the vaginal orifice we call his mouth music used to come"
this is quite a sentence!
― scott seward, Friday, 29 June 2012 16:15 (10 months ago) Permalink
kinda like shakespeare.
"Hard to believe that once out of the vaginal orifice we call his mouth music used to come!"
― scott seward, Friday, 29 June 2012 16:17 (10 months ago) Permalink
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/43338/hey-internet-girl-everyone-had-something-to-say-this-summer/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 October 2012 14:52 (7 months ago) Permalink
honestly that article is a few 100 (1,000?) words adding up to nothing. what the article calls condescension and sanctimony i'd call debate. frankly emily white's post was so unreflective and took such a preening tone that i think she deserved a little condescension, even if it's not necessarily the best debate tactic.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 11 October 2012 15:10 (7 months ago) Permalink
what's especially weird about the article is that it doesn't even provide us any sense of whether the woman who inspired this whole debate has been changed by it. does she regret anything she wrote? have her opinions shifted, or made more complex? is she sticking to her guns, and if so, what are her counterarguments to e.g. mr. lowery?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 11 October 2012 15:13 (7 months ago) Permalink
even tolstoy in his grave said "TLDR" when he saw that article.
― scott seward, Thursday, 11 October 2012 15:17 (7 months ago) Permalink
Everyone had something to say this summer about NPR intern Emily White and her generation's attitude toward music—everyone, except Emily White
It's weird that the internet responded so forcefully to someone who apparently never wrote a thing about herself or her generation's attitude toward music. It must have all been started by a picture or her or something.
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:10 (7 months ago) Permalink
i do feel a little bad for her insofar as she is young and did something foolish (as we all do, particular at that age) and thanks to the interwebs she can't just bury it or walk away.
but by most measures bowing out of a debate after setting it off is kind of a crappy move. it suggests that she hadn't really thought about her ideas enough to try to back them up in an open forum.
good luck getting a job as a music coordinator btw--it's not like the people who would hire her for such a position are indifferent to issues of intellectual property. she'll have to walk back her written opinions if people will take her seriously as a job candidate.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:24 (7 months ago) Permalink
according to the article she was barred by NPR from responding. Sure.
the article is very strange--the internet was wrong about her because...she's really passionate about music?
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:35 (7 months ago) Permalink
if anything that just makes her more of a hypocrite.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 12 October 2012 06:21 (7 months ago) Permalink
They're doing a chat
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2012/10/16/wednesday-chat-with-emily-white-and-lindsay-zoladz-about-streaming-piracy-and-um-emily-white/#more-80996
Amateurist should send in his questions:
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 15:41 (7 months ago) Permalink
"i do feel a little bad for her insofar as she is young and did something foolish (as we all do, particular at that age) and thanks to the interwebs she can't just bury it or walk away."
For some reason I am not thinking this is going to harm her in any real long term way.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 16:46 (7 months ago) Permalink
That piece did not require 3600 words.
― Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 18:03 (7 months ago) Permalink
From the internet chat now going On:
Emily, have you changed your mind at all regarding the ethics of your ripping of your boyfriend and college radio station collection's since the response to your article? Wednesday October 17, 2012 12:38 troublemaker 12:39 Ally Schw**tzer: (OK, obviously, the ethics issue has not petered out completely.) Wednesday October 17, 2012 12:39 Ally Schweitzer 12:40 Emily White: That access to music made the person I am today-- and I don't regret it. Because I recieved that exposure to such a wide variety of music, I am a more engaged fan. I attend more concerts, I promote more local bands, I buy more merch and I dedicate the majority of my free time to music
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 16:59 (7 months ago) Permalink