Who is really better at KICKING ASS?
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:04 (11 months ago) Permalink
*names country not listed in OP*
*waits for people to kiss my ass*
― frogbs, Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:06 (11 months ago) Permalink
^^wonder twin powers activate
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 May 2012 21:54 (11 months ago) Permalink
America
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 24 May 2012 21:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
― tylerw, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:02 (11 months ago) Permalink
hahahaha m@tt
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:03 (11 months ago) Permalink
I'm going with America too. Though the Beatles and Culture Club are forces to be reckoned with, they cannot compare with America's G. Love and the Special Sauce
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:05 (11 months ago) Permalink
I think things are fairly equal across a lot of different genres but as far as rap, jazz and blues go, Britain doesn't really stand a chance.
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:09 (11 months ago) Permalink
He said rather earnestly.
Is there any good US reggae?
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
Oh, Wackies I guess.
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:11 (11 months ago) Permalink
America no contest. I dunno even really know what pre-1960s British music is like but I'm pretty sure it sucks next to Muddy Waters, Chuck Berry, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Frank Sinatra etc
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:12 (11 months ago) Permalink
plus the Carter Family, Hank Williams, the Louvin Brothers
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:13 (11 months ago) Permalink
^ this
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:15 (11 months ago) Permalink
poor skiffle never had a chance
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:22 (11 months ago) Permalink
UK had a damn good run from the mid 60s through the late 80s though - at least when we limit the field to rock & electronic pop
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:24 (11 months ago) Permalink
UK get easily trounced in classical music too. Britten puts up a good fight I think, but he's always going to get overwhelmed by Gershwin and Cage and Cowell and Feldman etc
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:30 (11 months ago) Permalink
I am trying and I honestly cannot name a pre-Beatles British recording artist. I thought maybe Al Bowlly, but nope.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
Lonnie Donegan! Johnny Kidd & the Pirates!
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:32 (11 months ago) Permalink
Lots of funny music hall types too.
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:33 (11 months ago) Permalink
Wait, are we counting terrible music as minus points here?
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
Vera Lynn
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
What ever became of her?
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:36 (11 months ago) Permalink
Defected to Moscow in 1973.
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:38 (11 months ago) Permalink
madonna changed teams >:(
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:39 (11 months ago) Permalink
i thought vera lynn was in pink floyd
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:40 (11 months ago) Permalink
When did Mr. Acker Bilk start?
Actually I've got a pretty amazing box of early 20th Century London music hall stuff -- amazing in theory, anyway; I've never been able to get through it. Beyond that, pre-"Telstar" or whatever, I'm clueless when it comes to Britishers. And American music pre-1950 is a whole world.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:40 (11 months ago) Permalink
Vera Lynn's still alive. She had a No. 1 record in '09.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:41 (11 months ago) Permalink
What a ridiculous thread. Which language do you generally use when you decide to kick arse? I will give you Miles, techno and some of the best ever garage bands. But the rest can just fuck off, and that includes Bob Dylan.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:43 (11 months ago) Permalink
When you think of Porter and Holliday and Armstrong and Ella and Bing and MGM musicals etc..., even early 20th century pop music is pretty amazing
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:44 (11 months ago) Permalink
Hah! Inferiority complex.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:46 (11 months ago) Permalink
Qui, moi?
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:47 (11 months ago) Permalink
They weren't recording artists but the UK also had Holst, Vaughan Williams, and Elgar in the early 20th century. I'd keep The Planets but easily take the best of Ives, Cowell, Joplin, Gershwin, and Ellington over these. Otherwise, yeah, I was also scratching my head trying to think of major musical contributions from the UK between 1900 and 1960. It was troubling me. (I don't know Walton well enough but do like some things by him.)
France or Germany vs the US would be an interesting match.
9xpost OK, yeah, I know there was "music hall stuff" but I don't think I can actually name much of it.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:47 (11 months ago) Permalink
even early 20th century pop music is pretty amazing
Especially early 20th century pop!
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:48 (11 months ago) Permalink
This is silly. Please stop.
― kraudive, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
Well yeah. Killing time.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
Also Copland in the States.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
Oh yeah, Copland.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:51 (11 months ago) Permalink
What's really odd, actually, is that a country with a relatively shallow musical tradition (Purcell, Hayden-if you count him, Gilbert & Sullivan) in terms of wide-reaching popularity suddenly became very, very good at pop in the early 60's.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:51 (11 months ago) Permalink
The English and after Burns, the Scots may have been considered in the first rank of writing in European culture, second tier in painting, but English music hadn't exactly made much of dent elsewhere.
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
It is silly and arrogant. Geeky US arrogance, but it is still amusing.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:53 (11 months ago) Permalink
Amuse qui peut
― Love Max Ophüls of us all (Michael White), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:54 (11 months ago) Permalink
so far, there's only one real outburst of geek arrogance itt...
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:56 (11 months ago) Permalink
I was amazed by a Last FM app that put my listening of German music just a little above both UK and US stuff. I'm English btw.
― kraudive, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:56 (11 months ago) Permalink
Hayden-if you count him
You mean Handel, surely?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
Love Max is the ultimate know everything student, good at playing asperger trumps but lacking in class. Way to fucking quote pal!
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:58 (11 months ago) Permalink
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:59 (11 months ago) Permalink
― earlnash, Thursday, 24 May 2012 22:59 (11 months ago) Permalink
To really answer this question, you should be asking the Japanese, they would know.
― earlnash, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
I am trying and I honestly cannot name a pre-Beatles British recording artist
There was apparently some dude named George Formby.
― Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:51 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:53 (11 months ago) Permalink
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:53 (11 months ago) Permalink
i'd take the angelic upstarts over joni mitchell any day of the week.
― scott seward, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:54 (11 months ago) Permalink
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:54 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:54 (11 months ago) Permalink
i'm going to vote america based on fuck the britishes
― the late great, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:58 (11 months ago) Permalink
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:59 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:01 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:02 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:05 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:06 (11 months ago) Permalink
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:07 (11 months ago) Permalink
Ahhh! The Insane Clown Posse. Remarkable people.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 25 May 2012 00:09 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:09 (11 months ago) Permalink
lol for the record i was trying to post blink 182
dr. feelgood is kinda the british zz top i guess
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:12 (11 months ago) Permalink
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:13 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:13 (11 months ago) Permalink
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:15 (11 months ago) Permalink
i would take the opressed over john fahey and the 4skins over mission of burma.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 May 2012 00:16 (11 months ago) Permalink
there are like 5 zillion brit bands better than mission of burma.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 May 2012 00:17 (11 months ago) Permalink
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:17 (11 months ago) Permalink
i agree skot if yr limiting the argument to rock music from like 64 to 84 or w/e it's very very close but if it's 20th century it's just not even close
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:22 (11 months ago) Permalink
― You can do it Sun Myung Moon (NickB), Friday, 25 May 2012 00:23 (11 months ago) Permalink
that's what i was just thinking! 64 to 84 is total brit supremacy. then everything goes to hell.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 May 2012 00:25 (11 months ago) Permalink
20 years of genius. its weird kinda.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 May 2012 00:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
can america claim motorhead, ac/dc? esp. if band members are now US citizens?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 25 May 2012 00:39 (11 months ago) Permalink
Well the economy is fucked again, so there might be some period of greatness again. There are people who want a 300ft statue of Lee Brilleaux in Southend.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 25 May 2012 00:58 (11 months ago) Permalink
that's a great idea tbh
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 01:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
is that a member of kasabian?
― scott seward, Friday, 25 May 2012 01:31 (11 months ago) Permalink
dr. feelgood singer
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 May 2012 01:32 (11 months ago) Permalink
oh right. i would help pay for a wilco johnson statue.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 May 2012 01:38 (11 months ago) Permalink
there should at least be a mount rushmore for status quo in england. carve their faces onto the side of a cliff somewhere.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 May 2012 01:39 (11 months ago) Permalink
right into the white cliffs of Dover
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 May 2012 01:46 (11 months ago) Permalink
I would love to see a 300 ft William Burroughs statue in some desolate northern town, with a shotgun in his hand and with a banner underneath inscribed: "There is nothing more provocative than minding your own business".
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 25 May 2012 02:01 (11 months ago) Permalink
Did Joni Mitchell ever become a US citizen?? I'm not sure she should count as American music.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 25 May 2012 02:51 (11 months ago) Permalink
Have Doctor & the Medics been factored into all of this?
― clemenza, Friday, 25 May 2012 02:53 (11 months ago) Permalink
they are! it's like dawn of the dead over here.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 25 May 2012 03:07 (11 months ago) Permalink
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 25 May 2012 03:08 (11 months ago) Permalink
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 25 May 2012 03:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
She's lived in LA for decades, but also owns property in BC, so my guess is that she has dual citizenship.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Friday, 25 May 2012 03:52 (11 months ago) Permalink