POLL: SPIN's Greatest Guitarists of All Time

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"As you will see, our list embraces outsiders, trailblazers, outliers, and Eugene Chadbourne playing a rake. We don't worship 'guitar gods,' but prefer our axe-wielders to be resourceful, egalitarian, flawed, and human. We're not drawn to Olympic feats of fleet-fingered athletics, unless they're used for unique and exploratory ends. We see the mewling histrionics of Jeff Beck as tyranny instead of catharsis. The name Derek Trucks is practically alien to us."
(Top 50 of the total 100)

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Eddie Hazel (Funkadelic) 11
Prince 8
Neil Young 7
Robert Fripp (King Crimson) 7
John Fahey 6
Nile Rodgers (Chic) 6
Derek Bailey 5
Tom Verlaine & Richard Lloyd (Television) 4
Robert Quine 4
Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead) 3
Marc Ribot 3
Johnny Marr 3
J Mascis 3
Carris Brownstein (Sleater-Kinney, Wild Flag) 3
John McLaughlin 2
PJ Harvey 2
Lee Ranaldo & Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth) 2
Zoot Horn Rollo (the Magic Banad) 2
D. Boon (Minutemen) 2
Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath) 2
Frank Zappa 2
Lou Reed & Sterling Morrison 2
Kevin Shields (My Bloody Valentine) 2
Ron Asheton (the Stooges) 2
Jam Master Jay (Run-DMC) 2
Ali Farka Touré 1
Wayne Kramer & Fred "Sonic" Smith (MC5) 1
Andy Gill 1
The Edge 1
King Buzzo (Melvins) 1
King Sunny Adé 1
Bob Mould 1
Sonny Sharrock 1
Jimmy Nolen (James Brown) 1
Greg Ginn (Black Flag) 1
Robin Guthrie (Cocteau Twins, This Mortal Coil) 1
Nels Cline 0
Rhys Chatham 0
Dimebag Darrell (Pantera) 0
Kurt Cobain 0
Johnny Ramone 0
Tom Morello (Rage Against the Machine) 0
James Blood Ulmer 0
Dr. Know (Bad Brains) 0
Justin Broadrick (Napalm Death, Godflesh, Jesu) 0
Jack White 0
Kerry King & Jeff Hanneman (Slayer) 0
Glenn Branca 0
Steve Albini (Big Black, Shellac) 0
Stephen Malkmus (Pavement, the Jicks) 0


late adopter, Friday, 18 May 2012 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

which weirdo at SPIN was pushing for Jam Master Jay as the 10th greatest guitarist of all time?

just kidding.. placing him as a better guitar player than The Edge was a good call.

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:49 (eleven years ago) link

not to get all Rolling Stone on you kids but that dude who wrote "Little Wing" wasn't bad

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:54 (eleven years ago) link

Guy who covered it a little bit later wasn't too bad either.

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:56 (eleven years ago) link

I have some quibbles with certain exclusions from the list, but all is forgiven when reading the comments section. When these Guitar Center dopes get worked up into a lather over their gods being disrespected, it's the funnest shit in the world.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 19 May 2012 06:59 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, I get it.. It's refreshing to see names like D.Boon and Greg Ginn and J Mascis getting some heavy recognition for once in place of boring technical masturbation dudes like Yngvie or Steve Vai or like the dude who played on "Free Bird" or whatever.. but if it's at the cost of placing dudes who don't play the guitar over Jimi Hendrix then I don't really know if I want to care. I think SPIN used to love Jimi Hendrix; what happened?

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:11 (eleven years ago) link

Voted Eddie Hazel

thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:12 (eleven years ago) link

kinda appreciate the diversity of this list (kristin hersh!) even if leaving off hendrix altogether is some pathetic challopsy bullshit.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:12 (eleven years ago) link

Johnny Marr

Bee OK, Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:15 (eleven years ago) link

someone should poll those comments
holy shit

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:24 (eleven years ago) link

and Jimmy Page doesn't make the Top 50?

Bee OK, Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:25 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, I get it.. It's refreshing to see names like D.Boon and Greg Ginn and J Mascis getting some heavy recognition for once in place of boring technical masturbation dudes like Yngvie or Steve Vai or like the dude who played on "Free Bird" or whatever.. but if it's at the cost of placing dudes who don't play the guitar over Jimi Hendrix then I don't really know if I want to care. I think SPIN used to love Jimi Hendrix; what happened?

― billstevejim, Saturday, May 19, 2012 3:11 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

damn, yeah, finally i can hear about how great greg ginn is. at long last

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:30 (eleven years ago) link

skrillex... the master troll WGW's career has been buildiung up to

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:31 (eleven years ago) link

xp maybe I'm alone on this but I legit love the guitar on "The Process Of Weeding Out"

billstevejim, Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:33 (eleven years ago) link

I was a little surprised at how canonical and safe the list feels, even as I love everything on it. like the more challenging - but also timely/real - gesture at this point be to mix your Robin Guthries with your Jimmy Pages

Chris S, Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:39 (eleven years ago) link

*would

Chris S, Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:42 (eleven years ago) link

Where is Kristin Hersch because I would totally vote for her.

I'm kinda 0_0 that they managed to find a whole 2 women for the top 50, like this is actually progress compared to your usual... 0. But I want to vote for Hersch and I don't see her.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 19 May 2012 07:46 (eleven years ago) link

cock

buzza, Saturday, 19 May 2012 08:04 (eleven years ago) link

kristin didn't crack the top 50, she's at 82. the bottom 50's more interesting, predictably enough.

haha i just realized viv albertine from the slits made it too, at 92. kinda funny since they're one of those bands who basically expose the whole idea of rock as something defined by 'great guitarists' as total bs.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 08:28 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, I saw nearly half a dozen people I'd vote for in the bottom 20. ;_;

I think I'm going to avoid the Kevin Shields v Robin Guthrie quandary (oh, is Jonny Greenwood in there, too? didn't see him the first time, but I think his best work is not on guitar, actually) by voting for Eddie Hazel.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 19 May 2012 08:29 (eleven years ago) link

hurrah

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 19 May 2012 08:30 (eleven years ago) link

Yes, that is your fault. :-P

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 19 May 2012 08:33 (eleven years ago) link

I could always dust off a couple of socks, though?

If only I could split the difference between Shields and Guthrie and vote for Benjamin Curtis.

Jonny Greenwood I would totally vote for as a theremin/ondes martenot/modular synth/laptop/melodica/banjo/singing saw player, but as a guitar player? nah.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 19 May 2012 08:36 (eleven years ago) link

love the '&' entries, bet Lou is annoyed.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 19 May 2012 09:21 (eleven years ago) link

Seth Copeland13 days ago
This is beyond terrible. Spin is officially what's wrong with the world. Spin watches E! and forces its daughters to enter beauty pageants for seven year-olds. Spin has a Rick Santorum bumper sticker. Spin is an alcoholic mother who sends her kid to rehab for pot. Spin watches Dancing with the Stars and doesn't think Community is funny. Spin didn't realize Anakin was going to be Darth Vader until Revenge of the Sith. Spin tells the person in front of them at the concert to sit down because they can't see. Spin bombs abortion clinics. Spin is that middle-aged woman in a college class who wastes everyone's time. Spin is that cow that panics and runs out into the road when you drive by, denting your grill. Spin is your neighbor's chihuahua that won't stop barking at you.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:47 (eleven years ago) link

Mark Dannels15 days ago
This list makes me want to vomit! Leave it to Spin to come up with such a bull shit concoction of drivel just to prove that they are the anti Rolling Stone. This pretentious as fuck list is trying WAY to hard to cater to some holier than thou hip crowd yet only succeed in alienating their magazine as a "We're cool cuz were different" crap rag. I will admit that I love the fact that they give a nod to Nells Cline, J. Mascis and rate Prince so high. But the fact that they leave out Jimmi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Stevie Ray Vaughn and Eric Clapton all together is utter bull shit! I understand that singing their praises can be monotonous but there is good reason for it. And then, to put Skrillix on a list of guitar players is the biggest joke I believe I may have ever heard in all of my born days! They might as well have said that shrimp flavored ramen noodles are one of the best guitar players of all time, cuz guess what? Shrimp flavored ramen noodles dont play the fucking guitar, and neither does Skrillex!!!!!!!!!!!!! And then, no offence to RUN DMC, but they put Jam Master J, a fucking DJ in the top 10?!?!?!?!?! I'm sorry but this is a list of guitar players, Spin magazine completely lost every ounce of credit they may have ever had by creating this joke of a list (complete with people that may, or may not, have never played a fucking guitar in their life)! After holding back my urge to regurgitate my late night tamales all over my laptop, I finally get to the end of the list, holding onto hope that I may be delighted with their #1 choice... Sonic Youth. Spin magazine, GO FUCK ­YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

I was a little surprised at how canonical and safe the list feels

To you and me, maybe. But I watched reactions to this list unfold at a couple dipshit guitarist comments sections and one of the most common complaints was "I don't even know who any of these guys are!" It was really eye-opening to me how narrow so many people's field of music is. For some folks it really does go Eric Clapton->Jimi Hendrix->Jimmy Page->Eddie Van Halen->Randy Rhodes->Steve Vai->Zakk Wylde and that's all they need to know.

But I want to vote for Hersch and I don't see her.

Absolutely.

Lee Morgan Come Again (how's life), Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link

fuck, I forgot Stevie Ray Vaughn and Darrell Abbott in my list.

Lee Morgan Come Again (how's life), Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link

Alan Vorse15 days ago
While some of the choices are questionable, and I would put Nels Cline at number 1, I think this list is great! Come on! The usual lists are always 1.Hendrix 2.Clapton 3.Van Halen...etc. Lets get some fresh blood in there! Any list that has Vernon Reid, Fripp and Belew, John McLaughlin, Zappa, Sonny Sharrock, Blood Ulmer, Robin Guthrie is awesome!
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Scott Burnett15 days ago
There's a reason Hendrix, Clapton & Van Halen are usually first... if you're not sure why, enjoy reading SPIN.
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stoner dude14 days ago
Enjoy your classic rock radio stations.

I am glad to see a list break free from the calcified shackles that most lists suffer from...Eric Clapton is the most overrated musician to ever do a line of coke.
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andrew jackson11 days ago
Agreed. Clapton is so overrated its not even funny. He played a little fuzzier than some of his contemporaries, and played some cool guitar solos in Cream, a band whose roaring engine was Jack Bruce. He then became an adult contemporary artist and master of the clean tone elevator music guitar solo. His music is the audio equivalent of a polo shirt tucked into jean shorts accompanying black socks and sandals. Nothing about Eric Clapton has rocked in about 40 years.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 19 May 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link

guitar whites

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:00 (eleven years ago) link

Randy Peterson15 days ago
Is this some sort of joke or what ?
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Randy Peterson15 days ago
Is this some sort of joke ? WTF ?

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link

voted for Nile Rodgers.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

Would honestly put Curt Kirkwood ahead of all of the other SST band dudes. Rick Bishop should've made the list as well. Out of this bunch it's either Fripp or Bailey or Fahey.

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

love the '&' entries, bet Lou is annoyed.

Zoot Horn Rollo & Antennae Jimmy Siemens would have got my vote

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

damn, yeah, finally i can hear about how great greg ginn is. at long last
^this

love the '&' entries, bet Lou is annoyed.
and ^this

Say what you want about elevator music, Spin commentator, but Derek & the Dominos is a perpetual Untuck Your Polo Shirt Free card.

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

Did Richard Thompson make the long list?

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus, that's a criminal omission. So we have Tom Verlaine but no Richard Thompson?!??!?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link

I know right!

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

Also, if it's Verlaine & Lloyd it should definitely be Quine & Julien. Where's Johnny Thunders, by the way?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

Voted Syd Barrett

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link

Tom Verlaine & Richard Lloyd (Television)
Johnny Ramone
Eddie Hazel (Funkadelic)

This little sequence is amusing to me for some reason.

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

Actually my favourite guy who would have been a very cool inclusion on the list is Michio Kurihara.

Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link

i'm kind of curious what the process to arrive at this was ... like whether there was a ballot or whether it was an afternoon's spitballing

i enjoy the list, tho. tho it does kind of remind me of wire's 'in praise of the riff' thing from a few years back - which was all 'hey wouldn't it be awesome to have edgard varere on the same list of BORIS, wouldn't that be great and redefine our categories, that would be so awesome of us' - is how i feel about the presence of the odd improv dude or guitar composer here

thomp, Saturday, 19 May 2012 11:45 (eleven years ago) link

voting fripp based on both technicality + inventiveness

i'm a bit surprised by the lack of postpunkers. no keith levene, john mcgeoch, rowland s howard, daniel ash, geordie, roger miller etc?

cock chirea, Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

WHERE'S VINI REILLY??????????

cock chirea, Saturday, 19 May 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link

Went to a Prince after show last night. That swayed my vote. He tore the place down.

Popture, Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

I'd be more annoyed if I were, like, Bilinda Butcher or Ed O'Brien and just left out of the "&" altogether. ;)

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

I mean that says something, doesn't it? In a band with 3 guitarists you pick the one who spends the least time playing guitar.

They have fangs, They have teeth! (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

Surprised Keith Rowe and Kevin Drumm aren't on the list.

Annoyed Pete Townshend and Bo Diddley aren't.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 19 May 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

(I did listen to the track that Spin singled out and wasn't really blown away. I can believe that it might not be the best example, however, considering their choices in other cases.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 27 May 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

(The sound on the video wasn't that great, admittedly. I'll look for a better-sounding version on Grooveshark.)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 27 May 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

Nels Cline 0

rip ksh

buzza, Sunday, 27 May 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

love ginn's guitar playing, though he's obviously not the most fleet-fingered guy out there. the appeal is mostly in the riffs, tone, violence and roughness of his sound. he's a "great guitar player" in the same sense that henry rollins is a "great singer". they're both extremely limited, but in a way that suits the band's attack, makes them sound all the more brutal, anti and fucked-up. at least that's how i related to ginn & black flag when i was young. i liked the cro-mag quality. whether or not it was intentional, it sounded cool to me.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Sunday, 27 May 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

yeah word. also a lot of his stuff is kind of bluesy in a way most hardcore ended up not being (see: nervous breakdown)

flopson, Sunday, 27 May 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Nels Cline was my #2 choice (but not primarily for Wilco).

EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 27 May 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

anyway, i voted for john fahey based on quantity and overall quality of output.

just as easily could have gone for eddie hazel or robert fripp. hazel's responsible for my favorite single piece of guitar music ("maggot brain"), and fripp's played on a bunch of recordings i like almost as much (king crimson stuff, no pussyfooting and here come the warm jets (esp "baby's on fire"), heroes, "i zimbra", etc.)

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Sunday, 27 May 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

Nels Cline was my #2 choice (but not primarily for Wilco).

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, May 27, 2012 3:59 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

ditto

--niccimanewhore (some dude), Monday, 28 May 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

Do you like Initiate? I love it.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 28 May 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link

seeing clime play guitar with a vibrator in the geraldine fibbers really blew my mind as a young college kid

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 May 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, Nels Cline in Anvil tribute shocker! Tbh, I don't know the Geraldine Fibbers. I love the Nels Cline Singers, solo Cline, and some of his 'out' jazz collaborations though.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 28 May 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

Hm, Fibbers are sounding pretty good.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 28 May 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

They did a couple of classic albums imo

They didn't really sound like X but they are the only band that gives me the same feeling as early X

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 May 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link

11 people voted correctly

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 May 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link

Almost voted that way

Ian Hunter Is Learning the Game (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 May 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link

Fibbers-era Cline is great
Greg Ginn is great
Eddie Hazel is the greatest

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 May 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link

No
No
Yes

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 28 May 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

Have you even heard nels cline?

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

Argh, I missed this poll it seems. Would have voted for Zappa.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link

yeah Geraldine Fibbers remain just a major band to me, the album before Nels joined is imo maybe the best rock record of the '90s. Initiate is great but also a double disc that came out during a really prolific period of Nels Cline output, so i prob haven't paid it enough attention.

some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link

yeah Geraldine Fibbers remain just a major band to me, the album before Nels joined is imo maybe the best rock record of the '90s.

what are the second through one-hundredth best?

rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link

ps: i'm just fuckin w/ u cause of capn lorax in that other thread. do not take that zing to heart.

rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link

[quote=Actually my favourite guy who would have been a very cool inclusion on the list is Michio Kurihara.]
good to see someone beat me to mentioning him

nohighs, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 01:33 (eleven years ago) link

yeah I woulda swapped a couple of these entries out for Kurihara and Hagerty

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link

and I ended up being the only one who voted for Andy Gill. went for him, because his probably influenced mine the most of all these people listed

V79, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link

real talk whiney have you heard Lost Somewhere Between The Earth And My Home? incredible album, you should check it out sometime.

some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

great album, but I like <i>Butch</i> better

rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

yeah the fibbers were pretty good -- better live than on record imo, at least the times I saw them. that scarnella record that cline and bozulich did was pretty damn good too.

tylerw, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

cline's best stuff was with Watt imo

rock the swagon and g.o.a.t. it (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, or at least def his best sideman-to-a-vocalist work

some dude, Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

Cline's instrumental compositional/improvisational work is so much more significant to me than his rock guitar playing (and I do really like his lead guitar playing with Wilco and Lee Ranaldo).

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

(especially when considering as a great guitarist)

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

I voted Ginn.

Have always been intrigued by his lack of prowess and totally rubbish tone. He was great.
He seemed to just jam along in any key, in a way that made me think he didn't even know what key he was in and certainly his scales were unique.

Ever since I heard My War back when it was released, that twat influenced my guitar playing. What he was doing sounded so random, angry and sludgy,.It was always the easy way out and I only played on stage 7 times and my career was over.

He still deserves my vote.

Now, Greg, let somebody with a clue remaster them classic SST albums

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

on greg ginn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4deAZAT21xc#t=53s

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

Have always been intrigued by his lack of prowess and totally rubbish tone. He was great.

I think I'm putting my finger on why I never liked Black Flag that much, one or two songs aside, and Ginn especially. Maybe even why I love some classic Amerindie and am left totally cold by some.

no, i just mean he was part of a scene/era in which chops were not a must

I've actually been thinking about this. I guess it depends what you consider to be his scene/era. I really like several bands on Ginn's own label - Sonic Youth, Husker Du, fIREHOSE, Meat Puppets - all of whom seemed to place some value on musicianship. I'd probably say that in some cases they were better musicians, at least as instrumentalists, than many mainstream rock bands of that time. I realize that most of these were 'indie rock' and not 'hardcore' bands (at least as far as the records I listen to go). But, while I get that chops were not a must, even some other hardcore bands seemed to have placed a greater emphasis on tightness, e.g. Minor Threat, whom I also dislike but for different reasons.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

Thinking about why I don't like something often tends to be a first step in starting to appreciate it. I used to hate Pavement for similar reasons.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

figured he must have been a big influence on kerry king

Can see this btw (and I love Reign in Blood obv).

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

WTF?! How could this list omit Kevin Okanyra?!

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

(j/k I made up that name)

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

loved the album he did with hans bennink and joe mcphee

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

imo he was kind of an overrated gimmick player, it's not like the 6th and 7th fingers on his left hand really contributed to his fretwork at all

some dude, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

wasn't he uncredited on some of those denny vertigo peel sessions?

goole, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

imo he was kind of an overrated gimmick player, it's not like the 6th and 7th fingers on his left hand really contributed to his fretwork at all

― some dude, Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:54 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

particularly on those records where he plays a stringless.

Incidentally, one of those was enough.

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

i disagree, i'd put him in the top five stringless baritone guitar players ever

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

His pit band work on the touring cast recording of CATS is kind of an overlooked gem though

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

little known fact: he invented that pick-holder that you stick onto your guitar. His nickname was "butterhand" for a reason.

this guy's a gangsta? his real name's mittens. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

okanyra shreds

max, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

Despite the moments of goofiness/trolling, this list (the full 100) is kind of amazing.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link

just scrolled through some of the comments again, re-confirming this list is basically the greatest thing to ever happen

alpine static, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link

carrie brownstien finishing over iommi lol

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link


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