so this is kind of awesome
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
hearing killer mike say 'we here to eat the rich' is like seeing spider man use heat vision
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
this totally bangs
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
fucking love this
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
i hope this is as good as that song on ghetto extraordinary where he says "Fuck Hitler" twice a row!
Killer Mike is great, he had me from the first, when he said "catch a beat runnin' like Randy Moss" and stared into my eyes
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
whole thing is on spotify, "reagan" is (predictably) fucking killer
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's funny, i was listening to it on the train a couple of hours ago and thinking that for the past few years it's been hitherto-kinda-underrated old dudes who've been responsible for the rap albums that sound most ALIVE and banging - quik & kurupt, killer mike, big boi...
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
read the thread title as "killer mike, rap's el-p, produces"
― dayo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
kinda-underrated old dudes who've been responsible for the rap albums that sound most ALIVE and banging - quik & kurupt, killer mike, big boi...
Kool G Rap yo
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am excited to hear this
"southern fried" is really the only one that's ~the way i'd expect a killer mike/el-p collab to sound like, the rest is pretty refreshing
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
Love it. El-P keeps it sparser than I was expecting but with a nice booming lowend. w
― Regional Tug (irrational), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah this is great so far.
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Go!" is awesome, so cool to hear some scratching on a track
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Love this very much.
― Sonic adobes of stultifying hipsterdom (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
so cool to hear some scratching on a track
yeah, scratch solo is ace. does sort of take things back to the late 90s.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
spotify has both the explicit and clean versions of this album. convenient for work listening.
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mike: Rick Ross, man...he's on another level. "So Rick, you were a correctional officer. Now you rap. How do you explain that?" Rick: "Real niggas do real things, for real reasons." I just stood up and shouted: "YES RICK! THAT'S WHAT YOU DO!" I'm a huge Rick Ross fan. HUGE Rick Ross fan. Deeper Than Rap: That was the best rap album of the year.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/05/killer_mike_el_p_interview.php?page=4
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
love this
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
this shit bang
2 seconds into butane i thought we were gonna get gabba mike for a sec haha
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
someone send this to Morbs so he can quote Mike's lines about Obama.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is awesome, yes. I like the El-P record a lot too but KM is a more interesting dude to spend 45 mins with.
― Simon H., Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A GLEE COMMERCIAL ON MY FUCKING KILLER MIKE SONG
DankProductions5280 13 hours ago
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
+1 Like
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 14:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
got a rave review from Sound Opinions
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 23:38 (11 months ago) Permalink
does anyone not like this? finding negative reviews of r.a.p. music is like finding negative reviews of black hippy stuff
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:02 (11 months ago) Permalink
NME to the rescue!
Fast off the back of last year’s ‘PL3DGE’ LP comes Grind Time Official star Killer Mike’s sixth full-length outing. Built on a somewhat uneasy collaboration between the OutKast protégé and Def Jux founder El-P, it’s a set of two halves whose hands won’t hold. Mike’s an angry, earthy rapper and his standard “hardcore G shit” (‘Big Beast’) chips and bumps against his producer’s strained attempts to lift it skywards with spacey electro noodling (‘Don’t Die’). Worst of the back end is ‘Reagan’ – a politi-rap analysis of the Iran-Contra scandal. It’s a relic – a meandering, studenty thought piece that’s been dug from the ratty recesses of the ’90s West Coast conscious scene. Mike has dabbled with politics in the past, and even made unlikely forays into experimental soul, but ‘RAP Music’ lacks the fury and vitality that usually sustains him. The ambition is to be applauded, but half the album’s a grind. And not the good kind.
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 00:05 (11 months ago) Permalink
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i would listen just for the possibility of putting a negative review into the world but i don't want to break the 14-year streak of avoiding el-p's music that i've managed since back when that one stupid co flow video used to get played on rap city
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:05 (11 months ago) Permalink
I find the political history more interesting than the politics of strip clubs.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:23 (11 months ago) Permalink
...this time.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 01:24 (11 months ago) Permalink
I wasn't completely sold on this... Lots of interesting lyrical stuff, but I was disappointed that Killer Mike still has the same monotonously aggressive, punctuate-every-other-word, flow as when I last listened to him 10 years ago, when Monster came out. That combined with El-P's heavy beats, which are okay, but kinda too compressed and too busy throughout the album, make thw whole thing hard to listen except in small chunks, despite its shortness. IMO Vast Aire was a better foil for El-P's style, and the Cannibal Ox beats also had more air in them, which is kinda lacking here with everything being so in-your-face.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 31 May 2012 12:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
Also, the label this was released on seems to be otherwise specializing in albums by cartoon characters, what's up with that?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 31 May 2012 12:53 (11 months ago) Permalink
it definitely was surreal to look on the back cover of the CD and see the Adult Swim and Grand Hustle logos next to each other
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:06 (11 months ago) Permalink
Adult Swim have had a Stones Throw connection for a while
― Number None, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:08 (11 months ago) Permalink
I hated Company Flow in the 90s too, but I think El-P has gotten much better as a producer since then. The beats on the Can Ox album are on a whole different level than the beats he did for Co Flow. He still sucks as a rapper though, but the Can Ox album (where he only has one guest verse) is definitely worth checking out.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:21 (11 months ago) Permalink
just gonna throw my opinion that el-p has never been involved in the creation of anything less than great, and that he's also a pretty damn good rapper, into the ring here.
― caulk the wagon and float it, Thursday, 31 May 2012 13:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
Tuomas do you find it difficult to listen to amerikkkaz most wanted or it takes a nation.... ?
― sisilafami, Thursday, 31 May 2012 15:55 (11 months ago) Permalink
i'm still half-ehhhhh and half-sure-okay on el-p as a rapper, but i've never not liked anything he's done as a producer since the turn of the millennium.
this album is amazing btw.
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:12 (11 months ago) Permalink
this is great. so is the new el-p 'cancer4cure'. old dudes in rap otm.
― Smothered, Covered and Chunked!!! (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:15 (11 months ago) Permalink
it's pretty good but def. overrated and people are glossing over the flaws - production gets pretty monotonous over the span of the album and the choruses are boring. the choruses are even more of a problem on cancer4cure.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
the skits and speeches on "Don't Die" and "Reagan" unnecessarily stretch those tracks.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:51 (11 months ago) Permalink
this is way way better than cancer 4 cure which i found as wearily worthy, if not actually awful, as every el-p thing i've heard
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:51 (11 months ago) Permalink
the politics might be the worst thing about rap music, it's all a bit...standard conspiracy theory BS
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
and the bit where he goes on about worrying whether women will change their names is seriously eyeroll-worthy, he seems an old dude in the bad sense there
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:53 (11 months ago) Permalink
It's more complicated than conspiracy drivel, lex. He's pointing the finger at his community for falling for the likes of Reagan, both Bushes, and Obama: "We should be indicted for bullshit we incited." Plus his tone and timbre are A+.
― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
yeah the best thing about "reagan" is that he acknowledges rap's history of bullshit conspiracy theorizing even as it falls prey to it a little bit
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 31 May 2012 16:59 (11 months ago) Permalink
killer mike contains multitudes, etc.
i mean it verges on bill hicks style "every politician is a servant of the corporate overlords" simplification but the first verse's implication of mike himself (as well as rap as a whole) for selling violent pulp as a lifestyle and the second's life-someone's-lived specifics almost earn it.
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:03 (11 months ago) Permalink
standard rap conspiracy theory shit rules lex!
you sound like someone that's never truly beheld a pale horse :(
danity kane is illuminati politricks >:(
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:06 (11 months ago) Permalink
first video to directly rip drive?
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Friday, 8 June 2012 02:33 (11 months ago) Permalink
kinda diminishing returns on this album
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 07:58 (11 months ago) Permalink
oh man, that video.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:42 (10 months ago) Permalink
album gets better with each listen
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:55 (10 months ago) Permalink
It's really good, but while half of it feels natural, another half feels like producer + MC. I've been obsessed with Mike since I first heard him. My ranking:
1. Pl3dge2. pledge 13. rap music4. ghetto extraordinary5. pledge 26. monster
― paulhw, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 01:11 (10 months ago) Permalink
kinda need to see this live i think
― Authorities don't know who shot the 50 Cent the goose. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 02:26 (10 months ago) Permalink
oh shit that reminds me...
i think the last two tracks are amazing.
― pvmic bellvm (goole), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 03:00 (10 months ago) Permalink
The whole album is impressive, but I think the back half is stronger.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 03:13 (10 months ago) Permalink
just getting around to hearing this. awesome stuff.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 21:01 (9 months ago) Permalink
maybe my fave album this year
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 August 2012 21:02 (9 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, it def has a shot at being my #1 right now.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:19 (9 months ago) Permalink
"Willie Burke Sherwood" is my jam
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:23 (9 months ago) Permalink
I've deliberately avoided everything with El-P's name on since someone on ILM conned me into buying 'Fantastic Damage' 10 years ago and while I like this a lot there's something profoundly unfunky about most of the beats here. Obviously Mike himself slays and the production makes up for its clunkiness with sheer force but in practice I don't really want to go back to it that much.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:25 (9 months ago) Permalink
it is kinda of cramped
― goole, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:26 (9 months ago) Permalink
it had really rapid diminishing returns for me, was initially really into it but already could not care less
― lex pretend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:42 (9 months ago) Permalink
'kinda of' ha whoops
― goole, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:42 (9 months ago) Permalink
i think this record is pretty inconsistent & wish i'd read what felt like a very honest piece on it because it also has some great songs
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:08 (9 months ago) Permalink
I will stand up for everything but Anywhere but Here
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:39 (9 months ago) Permalink
"Jojo's Chillin" for me.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:41 (9 months ago) Permalink
aka the best song on the record
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 16 August 2012 18:02 (9 months ago) Permalink
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:08 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
write it!
― Jandek at the Disco (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2012 18:32 (9 months ago) Permalink
It's an impressive record that's short on replay value.
― Vagelis (The Reverend), Thursday, 16 August 2012 18:41 (9 months ago) Permalink
Yeah. I listened to it a lot for a couple of weeks, haven't felt any need to play it ever since.
― Tuomas, Friday, 17 August 2012 10:34 (9 months ago) Permalink
i have similar feelings about it - something about the beats is just exhausting, too trebly, too harsh for headphones
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 August 2012 11:36 (9 months ago) Permalink
get a hi-fi, man
― catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 17 August 2012 15:01 (9 months ago) Permalink
I don't find it that trebly, (then again there's a fuckload of really trebly rap production from the last few years) and it packs a lot of punch. "Cramped" is the right word maybe. Kinda lumbering as well.
― Matt DC, Friday, 17 August 2012 15:03 (9 months ago) Permalink
Production is just fine.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 17 August 2012 15:27 (9 months ago) Permalink
Y'all are using words like cramped and lumbering like it's a bad thing.
― yodarman, Friday, 17 August 2012 18:33 (9 months ago) Permalink
Seriously tho
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2012 20:03 (9 months ago) Permalink
oh noes this sounds like weird old noisy 80s rap records halp
― Fareed Zaireeka (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 August 2012 20:04 (9 months ago) Permalink
not really
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:29 (9 months ago) Permalink
if anything the opposite, everything's bright, crunched, maximized. i don't want to make a big deal out of it though. just the way it seems to me.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:31 (9 months ago) Permalink
and it doesn't remind me of the 80s at ALL. except maybe a little of jo-jo's chillin. i dunno, i guess i just don't like the beats all that much. still some great songs though. i love mike's rhymes and his delivery and sometimes the beats don't really get in the way. but it's not really all that "killer" to me. i can't think of any songs on here that you'd put on and the whole room would go "ohhhhhh shit" which is a shame!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:41 (9 months ago) Permalink
this sounds like those weird old noisy sounds my butt used to make in the 80s
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:55 (9 months ago) Permalink
u weren't even alive in the 80s
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:57 (9 months ago) Permalink
oh, i was quoting whiney there
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Friday, 17 August 2012 21:59 (9 months ago) Permalink
if anything the opposite, everything's bright, crunched, maximized
yeah it may be 80s in spirit but sonically? gtfo
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:00 (9 months ago) Permalink
can u guys stop this he means it sounds like public enemy or mantronix and it does, not "rappers delight"
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:02 (9 months ago) Permalink
Rappers Delight was from the 70s bro
― Number None, Friday, 17 August 2012 22:04 (9 months ago) Permalink
lol
― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:05 (9 months ago) Permalink
i wasn't even alive in the 80's cut me some slack
this does not sound like Public Enemy to me at all, this is not a sample collage record - it's a lot of compressed distorted guitars, synth washes, farting moog basslines, no drum loops all programming, etc. Mantronix eh okay maybe here and there.
― Shameful Dead Half Choogle (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:22 (9 months ago) Permalink
I guess rapping about Reagan is pretty 80s
― formerly EDB (ed.b), Friday, 17 August 2012 22:29 (9 months ago) Permalink
haha
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Saturday, 18 August 2012 00:07 (9 months ago) Permalink
to be real there's a few songs on here i think are awesome. just dont think its a slam-dunk classic record or w/e
jojos chillin is p dope
― protected by viper. stand back. (D-40), Saturday, 18 August 2012 00:56 (9 months ago) Permalink
now that killer mike is calling himself the rap bill maher on twitter maybe folks will rein it in a bit
― protected by kl0pper. stand back (D-40), Monday, 20 August 2012 00:13 (9 months ago) Permalink
― Vagelis (The Reverend), Monday, 20 August 2012 00:20 (9 months ago) Permalink
clearly a slam-dunk classic recordor w/e
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 August 2012 03:44 (9 months ago) Permalink
http://pitchfork.com/tv/youtube/13-music-videos/373-killer-mike-untitled-official-music-video/
― "Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 18:20 (9 months ago) Permalink
The vinyl comes with a bonus instrumental LP, a free poster and what is most certainly the coolest download card I've ever seen--the flipside of the card is a picture of the sticker-covered ghetto blaster from the album art. This doesn't sound like much, but it made the already-cool experience of unwrapping the vinyl even cooler in this particular case.
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Saturday, 8 September 2012 01:58 (8 months ago) Permalink