naffest genre in 2012

i once saw a frank zappa cover band that i'm pretty sure blew away the OGs (ok there was one of the OGs fronting the band)

would like to see a mayhem cover band

if evangelical christian folk includes Mumford and Sons then i'm cosigning this one

is there a steampunk genre yet? i know there's two or three bands out there...

what would that even sound like? i'm imagining NIN with music hall on the PA while they tune up

it sounds like bottles being hurled at the stage in my head

welp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abney_Park_%28band%29

Becoming Steampunk

In early 2006, Abney Park transformed themselves from a largely goth industrial band into a steampunk band.

that's one of the bands i was thinking of

Dresden Dolls were steampunk, yes?

Gramophone distortion

Oddly enough I wanted to like Dresden Dolls. I went to see them and they and their audience annoyed me so much I gave my rather good seat to a pretty girl and left.

I heard Unicorn Kid was Seapunk?

I loved his EP from late last year.

There is a Seapunk night in Melbourne, should I go?

Steampunk… band? o.O

Is seapunk where you get a tattoo of a gold earring or eyepatch?

surf rock - yeah i guess

I'm a bit biased since I'm in a band that plays some surf/instro stuff, but I've never had a bad time with anything Los Straitjackets or Shadowy Men On A Shadowy Planet-related. And Los Twang Marvels rock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FEfqy1Xg8&feature=relmfu

There is a Seapunk night in Melbourne, should I go?

you should show up and request glowwave traxx

u should go in a yellow fluoro body glove springsuit

djent?

anyway the naffest genre in 2012 is 'drake'

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1p1ugl8iH1rsnvc2o1_500.png

more like ctrl-z amirite

oh wait that says ctrix not ctrl-x

#haircut

Keith Party! features and strangely pays homage to a friend of mine (and former ILX poster / grime fan) Keith McDougall.

Though when they played on our tv show it seemed more like some kind of impromptu student happening primarily influenced by (a) Beastie Boys and (b) T-Shirt's "You Sexy Thing" than anything I could or would describe as "seapunk".

But 3 years is a long time I guess.

Oh okay, they're the same, but with more synths:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2KSFCyWo9U

I... cannot endorse this. Sorry Keith!

lol

i would probably go to a seapunk nite tho it could be fun

College Acapella

xpost I would be happy if it does indeed sound more like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qEeWLZhwQ

this is Unicorn Kid the little Scottish fella? cos I reviewed a gig of his a few years ago and it was like chiptune trance and everyone else in the room was under 20, i didn't even hate it but it was fkn weird

conceptwave

re: all this stuff that has mutated sideways out of hypnagogia/whatever on the Internet - seapunk/witchhouse/chillwave... I can see a gimmicky, faddish side to some of it (especially as a lot of Net kids adopt the witchhouse end and bring a more fickle mindset), but I think that comes with the terrain and medium (online culture, memecraft). and the more online the aesthetic and process gets, the more the sub-genres and memes within that scene take on an imagistic, one-dimensional, disposable quality - like Net 2.0/4chan memes - and the tone around them gets sillier

that said, I tend to find stuff like this interesting. arguably one of the few new/now-ish exercises in genre/scene right now, so I feel more inclined to be supportive (def not going to wave it off as not being 'real' art or a 'real genre' or whatever). and while I personally prefer the deeper end of drone/ethereal/noise/psych to most of this more disposable memewave stuff, I'm kind of fascintated to see what all these kids are going to do with the idea of Net music/meme music...

finally a genre as culturally relevant as 4chan memes

here here

Read this as "ruffest genre of 2012" and am now disappointed!

can't believe nobody said dubstep

you like post-80s ska better than dubstep?

no, not really, though not too much in the diff in some cases

I don't really have anything against 90s ska but I kinda grew up with it, I guess. Always liked it better than grunge which just seemed mopey to me.

Probably a lot of that comes down to first really encountering modern rock around 96 when No Doubt and Sublime were the breakout bands and grunge meant like...Stone Temple Pilots and Bush.

stone temple pilots >>>> no doubt

bush sucks though

n/h

putting the pulp fiction soundtrack on endless repeat as an adolescent has forever softened my heart to surf rock

yeah the answer has to be thirdwave ska

I don't have any problem with surf rock/surf punk stuff. even when you're taking about the bad stuff, you're talking about kids who are some of the last people around making legitimately danceable rockin'-out guitar music. I can't say no to that. I guess that doesn't mean it's not "naff" though. I'll have to study this word more closely.

I guess I have similar feelings towards ska-punk, although I have a few problems with the more mainstream/jokey/jam band-y Reel Big Fish end of things. Actually it's possible that Reel Big Fish is the only ska-punk band that I actively hate. I don't really pay much attention to that scene unless it's some band that tries to sound like 60s ska. For the most part you can do much, much worse than ska-punk.

skanking is not legitimate dancing

anyway if you want legitimately danceable rockin-out guitar music i recommend you get into some brooks & dunn

for more information about #seapunk i recommend this I LOVE CRICKET: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX: THE CHINATOWN OF ILX thread

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=52&threadid=90812&action=showall&bookmarkedmessageid=3336897

The whole seapunk backlash thing is funny to me. I heard the #seapunk Volume 1 comp before that Chicago reader article and Max and Whiney picked it up and it's mostly pretty good! Like awesome remixes of Mary J. Blige and stuff. But except for the occasional water sound, there's really nothing that distinguishes it as a sonic vocabulary from other underground US bass music of the past few years. It's really just some kids who are doing similar stuff musically to what other people are doing, who decided to brand themselves differently and dress up weird.

before Max and Whiney picked it up as a punchline*

yeah, i was thinking about this on my walk (saddest thing i've typed on ilx all year), and it occurred to me the seapunk kids have a kinship with teengirl fantasy, miracles club, mi ami, 100% silk and the rise of HIPSTER HOUSE: S/D that nguzu/al qadiri/et al don't, and i see you've brought up NNF.

but it's all tiny degrees of separation anyway. le1f had a couple instrumentals on #seapunk volume 1 and nguzunguzu worked on his album.

yeah, it's all coming from that tape/drone/post-noise scene/aesthetic... things are just growing off in slightly different directions: psych/freakout/jam, dreamy/ethereal/media/hypnagogic, pure noise/drones, noise-goes-dance, and then all this post-witchhouse/chillwave/memepop stuff... sea/ice/slime-punk etc

All of this stuff is at least theoretically fashionable and in some ways trading off its naffness in a way that modern ska totally isn't.

^^ OTM

Stay focused, people

Wouldn't say any of this stuff is my thing exactly but don't dislike any of it (or its aesthetic) - def don't see it as naff (on the one hand this means its likely to become naff at any time once the wind changes but on the other hand this just seems a continuation of stuff thats been going on since...idk 2004?)

anyway answer is whatever that music that alkan and justice and those play (played?)

and Luciano isn't a genre but if he was....

All of this stuff is at least theoretically fashionable and in some ways trading off its naffness in a way that modern ska totally isn't.

― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, April 25, 2012 2:21 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tru

skanking is not legitimate dancing

I tend to think any physical/kinetic response to music is "legitimate" dancing.

what about the physical response of clapping your hands over your ears when you hear ska