fiona apple - the idler wheel is wiser than the driver of the screw and whipping cords will serve you more than ropes will ever do (2012)

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FIONA APPLE

ANNOUNCES NEW ALBUM ON JUNE 18TH

‘THE IDLER WHEEL IS WISER

THAN THE DRIVER OF THE SCREW

AND WHIPPING CORDS WILL SERVE YOU MORE

THAN ROPES WILL EVER DO’


GRAMMY® winning artist Fiona Apple is set to release her first album in seven years on June 18th. Like Apple’s 1999 record, When the Pawn…, the title of the new record is a poem:

‘THE IDLER WHEEL IS WISER

THAN THE DRIVER OF THE SCREW

AND WHIPPING CORDS WILL SERVE YOU MORE

THAN ROPES WILL EVER DO’

“Every Single Night,” the collection’s first single, will be released on June 10th. The cover for THE IDLER WHEEL… features an illustration by Apple.

Tracklisting

1. Every Single Night
2. Daredevil
3. Valentine
4. Jonathan
5. Left Alone
6. Werewolf
7. Periphery
8. Regret
9. Anything We Want
10. Hot Knife

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

thought this deserved a new thread. i haven't heard any of the new stuff that she's presumably played live yet, but i'm still excited.

re: the title: lol never change fiona

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Re track #4-- is she still dating Jonathan Ames?

aluminum rivets must not be proud of their plastic bosses (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

scott seward, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

her time is now...

scott seward, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is actually great!

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm heartily amused by the critical attention (rightly) being lavished on her atm! this was not the case in the 90s, iirc everyone just called her an alanis morissette clone o_0

though it doesn't exactly seem like ilm is falling over itself to get excited about her smh

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, like I just said on Twitter, this is because at least a few of us were never excited about her to start with.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

ehhhh ilm has never been into young female singer-songwriters though, has it

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

That last Taylor Swift album thread was huge!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is ilm into ANYTHING as a whole? Nah. Plenty of people like female singer-songwriters though.

I take Fiona Apple on a case by case basis, and this song doesn't do anything for me. Still, I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of the album.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

no, i mean the tori/fiona/suzanne vega type of singer-songwriter

xp

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

accusing people of not liking musicians because of their age/gender out of nowhere just raises the question of whether you like them because of their age/gender

Poor Turrican (some dude), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

When I like her songs, I tend to like them a lot, otherwise I think she can be too technical a singer w/o enough emotion to back it up or conversely too overwrought. This doesn't do much for me but it does remind me that I miss her voice.

L'ennui, cette maladie de tous les (Michael White), Monday, 23 April 2012 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ this

Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like the hits a lot. you know, the famous fiona songs. they played the criminal song on the radio this morning when i was taking the kids to school and i always like hearing it. some of the non-hits bog down for me with that samey piano formula and can be a bit of a drag. i like this song a lot because its so sparse. i like her voice.

scott seward, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

What Scott said.

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 10:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

(to some extent. I DID love all of Extraordinary Machine.)

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dig this new song. The minimal instrumentation works really well.

Turangalila, Thursday, 26 April 2012 07:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

"I just made a meal for us both choke on" is just classic Fiona delivery of lyrics that somehow reaches into some deep crevice inside you and then you unravel (sorry)

I just wish that in between her crazy indolent periods she'd just release cover albums because since 1996 I haven't found a voice I love this much

With this and her "Walkin' After Midnight" cover I wish she was my classic country jukebox

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Friday, 27 April 2012 05:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

man the photo with that article

just sayin, Thursday, 31 May 2012 10:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

"anything we want"

http://pigperson.tumblr.com/post/24231972248/fiona-apple-anything-we-want

uberweiss, Saturday, 2 June 2012 03:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Like the song, voice sounds weirdly raspy.

Turangalila, Saturday, 2 June 2012 04:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think I need to get used to whatever it is she's doing with her voice in this song.

Turangalila, Saturday, 2 June 2012 04:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Im indifferent to most of her songs but First Taste is one of the sexiest songs of the 90s.

Moka, Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't see any relation between her and Alanis Morissette? Humourless female singer songwriters both of them but their voices and their music don't sound alike at all.

Moka, Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Fiona Apple is humorless?

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 June 2012 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's a lot of dark humor in When The Pawn and Extraordinary Machine.

In other news, I'm pretty sure this album is going to kill me

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 05:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm heartily amused by the critical attention (rightly) being lavished on her atm! this was not the case in the 90s, iirc everyone just called her an alanis morissette clone o_0

Tidal finished 35th on Pazz & Jop, and "Criminal" was the #11 single, so it's not like critics were universally dismissing her.

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 13:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh, and When the Pawn finished 7th!

Never translate Dutch (jaymc), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 13:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, the whole "finally, my peers are getting into fiona apple / i was always into fiona apple" thing that perpetua/lex have been throwing around rings false b/c i was a total unnuanced indie fuck when i bought when the pawn and i bought it based on the critical attention

but i was also like 14 so i dunno

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 14:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i remember tons of people being excited about when the pawn hits when it came out (i think i was a freshman in college?). seems like she's always been a step cooler than morrissette and her ilk.

tylerw, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 14:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

:D

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 02:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, this is marvelous.

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 02:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

who is drumming on this record

i would like to give it up for that drummer

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 11 June 2012 05:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

in the past few years I've seen her live a bunch of times and she's just so fuckin talented, I'm not even a fan of her recorded material or anything it's just like her shit's so undeniable when you see her idk

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 11 June 2012 05:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

BradNelson, it's Charley Drayton, who co-produced the album with her.

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 10:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

yesyesyesyesyes this album

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

the rounds on "hot knife" i just sat there looking at my speakers going OMGOMG silently to myself

the LYRICS

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

the ARRANGEMENTS

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

This is great. "Hot Knife" is crazy good, though hard to pick a favorite so far.

Regional Tug (irrational), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

remember when we argued on the concept of regret?
you were an expert even then but not me, not yet
now all you gotta do's remind me that we met

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 11 June 2012 16:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah I don't think anyone was expecting Hot Knife at all.

Turangalila, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Judging by "Hot Knife" and this

Fiona and her sister should together more often.

This album is tremendous.

all the other twinks with their fucked up dicks (billy), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 05:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

LOL

Turangalila, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

That's ...ironic?

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha

i think characterising apple's lyrics as "bottomless pit of despair" might be even worse though. do they not hear her humour?

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 12:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

That's a great line!

He makes my heart a cinemascope screen showing a dancing bird of paradise

...or something.

Turangalila, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

ehhhh ilm has never been into young female singer-songwriters though, has it

― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, April 23, 2012 10:22 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

where would women in music be without their sister lex taking care of them?

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp "he excites me! must be like the genesis of rhythm" is an amazing line as well

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

<3

Turangalila, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

the arrangements on this are kind of like if she took her ornate rococo brion-era arrangements and took 3/4 of the stuff out but left the essential heartbeat in

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

also how ridiculous that an album with "hot knife" as its most immediately talked-about song is getting these "OH SHE'S SO MISERABLE" reviews

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think for 'Bottomless pit of despair' read 'The most self obsessed person ever to make music...I mean nobody's wretched love life is that interesting....

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

musician formerly in bad relationship uses experience as creative fodder, film at 11

yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh go90s flashbacks! the "all these wretched female singer-songwriters are so self-absorbed and they remind me of that crazy girl i dated once" line is pretty much the reason i rejected the music press from an early age

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Anybody...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

no. you're alone, all alone, sonnyboy.

Impetuous hybrid (Matt P), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 18:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

great album. kind of aggressively weird, I haven't heard this many jazz piano chords on a pop album ever.

akm, Monday, 18 June 2012 20:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Really? I find her melodies dull and undistinguished for the first time. She's singing well though (e.g. the last two tracks). I've played it pretty much non-stop since last Thursday.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2012 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've listened to this twice. not sure what to make of it yet

right now, i'm thinking it emphasizes rhythm too much, sometimes at the expense of melody.

really digging the warmth/brightness of anything we want, though

buh, Monday, 18 June 2012 22:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

so far "Anything We Want," "Werewolf," and "Periphery" are the standouts

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 June 2012 22:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, i'd agree with those three, and add every single night

i want to like hot knife, but those layered vocals kind of annoy me

buh, Monday, 18 June 2012 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Those layered vocals are my favorite thing about that song.

Turangalila, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 01:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

They aren't actually layered, though. Harmonies were recorded live with her sister.

Turangalila, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 01:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

just now listening to the NPR stream, this is gorgeous -- i liked When the Pawn just fine, didn't care for Machine, but my favorite's always been the debut and Idler Wheel steps back to the less cluttered sound of that album -- but with 1,000% the songwriting chops

ilxor, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 02:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i've decided this is great. i really love the rawness of her voice in certain parts of daredevil and regret. the little chant at the end of periphery makes me happy

buh, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 03:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

this "interview" is pretty out there

http://www.vulture.com/2012/06/hiding-out-with-fiona-apple-musical-hermit.html

We got very stoned. We talked about a man who wore upside-down glasses and whose brain, within a few days, adjusted to perceive them as right-side up. She showed me a sample of the secret language she’s been speaking — and sometimes singing — since she was a child, a cross between scatting and talking in tongues.

...

We drank and smoked more. Coming back from the bathroom, she had turned off the lights and turned on a little machine that projected a million green stars orbiting across the whole space of the ceiling. I lay on the floor, spinning, watching them spin. She sat at her desk, not moving much, mostly staring into the screen that bounced a pale glow across her face.

...

It was late. The music had stopped. I asked her, I don’t entirely know why, to ask me something. She asked me about one of the most intimate experiences of my life. I told her the truth.

I was now standing in the middle of the room; I felt very stupid. Despite my protests, she came over and put her arms around me. We stood there for a while, hugging. She said, and I could hear her tongue clicking in her mouth:

Dan. I’m so sorry.

dmr, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

love this album, love the production, love the sequencing -- the sad songs leading up to the burst of joy at the end. i like a lot of songs off her other albums, but i tend to pick and choose which ones to listen to in isolation. this feels like a full and complete package to me.

the bibles fake lol don't trust a book (reddening), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

yes I do too. This weekend it snuck its claws into me.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Seconded re: the article mentioned above. Read it today. She's apparently fond of the weed and the whole article had a surreal feel to it, almost as if she and the writer were doing a performance art piece. It really made me want to hear this record thoug, so there's that.

kwhitehead, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 02:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Didn't like it for the first few listens, but now I can't stop playing it, especially "Hot Knife" (best on the album), "Werewolf," "Anything We Want," and "Valentine." Too much shrieking and hollering on "Regret," though.

LimbsKing, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 13:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's quite a brave album how she just puts her vocals and poetry out there to be scrutinised -- not concealed behind many embellishments. a lot of her observations misfire, but some strike like a dagger. and both these elements are propped by really jagged piano chords that make everything she sings sound vulnerable and on edge. my favourite so far is "left alone" i think, which gives itself up 100% to the dark side and is suspended in one big, long swell of riled emotion. i'm sure she's alienated a lot of people with this album, but those people are probably not really willing to buy into what she's trying to put out there, so...

charlie h, Saturday, 30 June 2012 03:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

God, 'Anything We Want' is just magical, isn't it?

Austin, Saturday, 30 June 2012 03:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Never been a big fan of hers, but damn, what an album. Really loving the vocals on "Regret" and of course "Hot Knife," but it seems like there's something unique about all the songs that make this so solid. Not sure why it struck such a chord, but it did.

slagterm, Sunday, 1 July 2012 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

you made your major overtures when you were a sure and orotund mutt
and i was still a dewy petal rather than a moribund slut

^^all-time great opening couplet

this album is so so good. i find it oddly life-affirming

bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Friday, 13 July 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Every Single Night is an earworm, heard it tonight and it clicked. For a minute I thought I was listening to an obscure Nancy Sinatra or Dusty Springfield joint.

Hot Knife is good too. This might be better than I originally thought.

Moka, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 04:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

The feet shuffling on "Periphery" have really grown on me.

LimbsKing, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 14:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

well i heard "every single night" the other day and it is wonderful, def gonna listen to this EVENTUALLY even tho i am really bad about "getting to" albums i want to listen to

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 17 July 2012 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

'sultry analysand'

!

j., Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I adore the minimalism of the instrumentation and imo it suits her vocals better than anything I've heard before. As much as I love Jon Brion I just did not like Extraordinary Machine for this reason. The drums in some of the songs on Idler Wheel remind me quite a bit of Wildbirds and Peacedrums.

Grease Jones (scottfree), Sunday, 5 August 2012 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Werewolf is wonderful

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 20 September 2012 07:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

For true

Revisiting this for the first time in a couple monthS, still hits hard

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 10 December 2012 11:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can totally see why someone wouldn't like this, just like I could Tuneyards say, but I reckon they would be listening with prejudice. It's great.

http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/12/19/fiona-apple-the-idler-wheel-etc-round-42-toms-selection/

yugi ex, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Every single night" is such a smoking opener. I am awed that this woman begins her album with such an explicit "hey guys, I'm craaazeee" lyric, feels empowering to listen to

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 13:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ha ha braaaaiiaiaiain! brain! braaaiaiaiaiaiain! brain! Remember 1999 when a girl would sing about something not-cute and people would call her crazy? They were RIGHT suck on IT

you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 20 December 2012 13:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Werewolf" still capable of fucking me up everytime

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 21 December 2012 12:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

That track floored me driving this morning.

Gukbe, Friday, 21 December 2012 13:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

respect this album more than I like listening to it. but I should revisit it again.

akm, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just got it this week and am loving it.

your damn bass clarinet (Eazy), Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Jesus christ, this fucking album. Speaking as an unabashed Fiona fan, I have no idea why I put off listening to it for so long. The sparse, minimalist rawness suits her so well that I kinda retroactively wish she'd never gotten mixed up with Jon Brion (even though those albums sound great). So many wonderful untethered moments here. Upon first listen, it sounded like a musical version of Isabelle Adjani's performance in Possession, which is about as high a compliment as I could pay an artist.

Alien Lays (Old Lunch), Monday, 31 December 2012 01:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I'm so in love with this album

'Anything We Want' killllls me

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 24 March 2013 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks for the "It's Only Make Believe" cover upthread. Whazzabout this cover of Macca's "Let Me Roll It"?

Johnny Too Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 02:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

what a still

hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 28 April 2013 05:14 (11 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Gukbe, Thursday, 25 July 2013 06:41 (8 months ago) Permalink


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