he is about to release a new record with White Fence and i really like both of them.http://pitchfork.com/news/45928-listen-ty-segallwhite-fence-i-am-not-a-game/
deserves his own thread.
― nostormo, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like him, but not sure i'd call him classic just yet
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
classic enough to have his name spelled right! jk -- maybe a mod can fix?
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
oops..
― nostormo, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
classic enough to have his name spelled right!
lol. also a fan of his brother, jonathan livingston.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
anyway, i like a lot of ty segall's singles and his early albums, seen him live several times, but have slept on his last two full-lengths. the reverse shark attack LP he did with mikal cronin is worth seeking out.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Even though he's young he's release a ton of material and the hit rate is quite impressively high. Maybe not 100% Classic yet, but on his way.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
"have slept on his last two full-lengths"
how can anyone sleep during this awesome track:
― nostormo, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
i've only heard goodbye bread, but like it a lot. seems like a young man full of potential!
― tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
singles comp on Goner that came out a few months back is pretty solid
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
Good timing for this thread cause I dug Lemons out the other day and remember it ruled and was wondering why I only had one record by the guy.
― Mongo Beefhead Tribesman (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 30 March 2012 04:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like his music a lot, but I want to say neither. I've heard one or two Sic Alps records, and as Ty Segall, 'Melted', 'Goodbye Bread', and an EP of T. Rex covers. They all seemed like pure 60s garage psych formalism. And unlike others mining simliar territory--like Jay Reatard or someone--there's not a really strong identity to any of it, or like, emotion, or anything like, *oh my god what is this*. It's more 'what Moby Grape thing or whatever is he riffing on here?' What I get most is, this guy has great taste in rock, he's dedicated enough to recreate what he likes, but he's artistically stalled out, or something.
I like his music, I *really* like his music, but it's classicist, not Classic. Which is probably a totally unfair assessment and I'd love to be proven wrong.
― America's Mobile, Friday, 30 March 2012 05:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ there is something there that rings true for me, though i do like ty and his music. i certainly don't buy "classic" vs. "classicist" as an exclusive dichotomy in all cases (i mean, i am a 21st century "garage rock" fan, after all), but i'm nonetheless reminded of the lazy cowgirls' scathing diss of bands who have a record collection more than an identity of their own: "you've got no sound, just a dialect". i think that, at his best, ty's strong enough as a songwriter and as a kick-ass rock 'n roll presence to transcend the shoebox limits of pure psych formalism. but i'm not sure...
it's interesting to listen to "where your mind goes", the tube nostormo just posted, w this debate in mind. i'd say that the verses are formalist and nothing more, but that the chorus melody is "ty's song", the distinctive, personal sound that unifies his best tunes. it's got as much in common w nirvana as it does any psych/garage predecessor. if nothing else, this thread's convinced me that i've gotta spend some time with his last couple LPs.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 06:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
His sound isn׳t too original but his songwriting is better than most of the other garageacts around.I guess the universal appeal of it plus the fact he playsall instruments by himself makes him the ״king״ of the scene by fans.And he is getting better with each record.
― nostormo, Friday, 30 March 2012 06:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ty still hasn't topped the first Epsilons record, in my estimation. His fuzztone chords buzztone voice were a great conduit for that band's horror-punk show. His solo records don't seem to have as much to say, like he's shying away from the strictly juvenile horndog howls of "Pantyhose" and "Fever to Kill".
Sorta NFSW:
also: Korg!
― bendy, Friday, 30 March 2012 12:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, that stuff is great (plus ground zero for segal, mooseheart & kronin), but i don't know that it's really any better than ty solo. sort of a reatards vs jay thing, where the former is way more high energy, but the latter is appealing in other ways. like "the drag" doesn't really kick ass, but it's still a great song. plus the traditional fools:
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 14:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ Totally otm. I'd say I wasn't trying to imply 'classic' and 'classicist' as exclusive categories or a dichotomy or anything, but--and just my own stupid, until now unconsidered bias--I think of classicism/formalism as a kind of artistically weak strategy and therefore it's difficult to consider classicist work 'classic', which I define as 'something great, timeless'. But there's no really good reason to think that, it was just some bias I never really thought about, and also, classicism in rock music is probably makes a lot of sense at this particular moment in time.
You're 100% right about the 90s/Nirvana + psych/garage synthesis, it's hard not to hear it now. There are some 60/70s by way of 90s ideas at work in a lot of his music, esp. on 'Melted'. It's a revival of a revival.
― America's Mobile, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
!!!
― nostormo, Sunday, 15 April 2012 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
That was awesome! classic
― van smack, Sunday, 15 April 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://pitchfork.com/news/46193-ty-segall-band-announces-new-album/
― nostormo, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
the new one is amazing but i still get annoyed paying fifteen bucks for thirty minutes of music
― the late great, Saturday, 21 April 2012 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is his music a pastiche? Yeah! Is it any good? Yeahh! I really cant wait for Slaughterhouse. For me I just like what I like and have little care for critical analysis. Thats why I am such a shit contributor !
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
so good live
― flopson, Monday, 14 May 2012 08:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
also they're selling every album spread across 5 tapes for 20 bucks at shows, worthwhile investment imo
― flopson, Monday, 14 May 2012 08:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Even though he's young he's release a ton of material and the hit rate is quite impressively high.
this.
― It was you. Miming to Tenacious D. (stevie), Monday, 14 May 2012 12:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
so good live― flopson, Monday, May 14
just saw him saturday!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 May 2012 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is there a thread about that Ty Segall & White Fence album? It's great!
― Walter Galt, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Argh! I just looked this up and they were selling the bundle of tapes from Burger Records, but they're all gone.
― Walter Galt, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
If I was blown away on first listen by the record w/ White Fence, what Segall should I check out next?
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Melted and Lemons are my personal favs.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, melted's p rad.
― It was you. Miming to Tenacious D. (stevie), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Melted was indeed rad. Cheers!
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
If you liked "Hair," you should also get the S/T LP by Mikal Cronin, who is in Ty Segall's band - that album rules.
― Walter Galt, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yep that Cronin lp from last year is superb. Anybody heard Slaughterhouse yet? I think it comes out next month.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
hair is awesome, they started the set with WF dudes & played a few songs off of it (the first two iirc) so 70's though after they got off stage & ty segall band was on it a noticeable blast step back to the 60's
― flopson, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
seeing Ty Segall/White Fence and The Men tonight at Webster Hall, I'm psyched
― dmr, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
― flopson, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
the men live show i saw was pretty boring tho
― flopson, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've never seen em. They are on first so I'm not sure if I'll get there in time anyway.
hoping they have the Hair LP on sale at the show, I'll probably buy it
― dmr, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Really enjoying "Hair" despite not being keen on Ty Segall's previous work. This LP is nothing new but it works really well. Not sure where to start with White Fence but I should check some of his stuff out
― gouty ted, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Shit, I thought the Men were FANTASTIC when I saw them a couple of months ago! They had a great female bassist with them then who I don't think is in the band anymore. But they were totally ferocious; the drummer's a monster.
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 17 May 2012 13:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
bassist when i saw them was just some douchey looking guy with a haircut
― flopson, Thursday, 17 May 2012 14:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
best show I have seen in aaaaaaages
missed the Men. Strange Boys were boring. White Fence was good. Ty Segall fucking RIPPED. seriously awesome.
― dmr, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
he came out with White Fence to do Long Black Curtain but I think that was the only song they did off "Hair." other than that they each had separate sets.
one of Ty Segall's encores was a cover of Gimme Some Money by the Thamesmen, from Spinal Tap. lolol.
all the stuff from Melted sounded incredible. Girlfriend and Finger were probably my favorites of the set.
― dmr, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
:-D
― flopson, Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ty Segall was great. Missed everything else due to a transport fail but this felt like a christening. Crowd going nuts. Big, crowded NY room. He's on his waaaaay!
also lol @ this upthread:
guy with a haircut
^everyone has a haircut^
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
-_- u know what i mean
― flopson, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
this guy doesn't have a haircut
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 May 2012 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
so we can eliminate him as the bassist.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 18 May 2012 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
dig slaughterhouse, but there isn't much to it, imo. it's a 30 minute mini-album consisting of five real top-shelf keepers that run just over 16 minutes: "death", "bought my eyes", "the tongue", "inside your heart" and "oh mary". those are padded out with three serviceable but hardly memorable garage stompers and a couple of truly crappy covers, all of which take up another 13 minutes or so.
oh yeah, and a lifeless noise dirge that adds nothing but running time and gives the dirtbombs' "race to the bottom" a run for it's no money.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 21:29 (10 months ago) Permalink
not to say that it's a bad record, just that it feels a little slight
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 21:30 (10 months ago) Permalink
is Wave Goodbye a cover? that's one of the best tracks on the album.
Diddy Wah Diddy and Fuzz War are the only weak spots imo.
― dmr, Thursday, 26 July 2012 14:52 (10 months ago) Permalink
no, wave goodbye is an original. the other cover is "the bag i'm in".
― contenderizer, Thursday, 26 July 2012 16:36 (10 months ago) Permalink
But "Wave Goodbye" is such a good tune!
― Walter Galt, Thursday, 26 July 2012 16:58 (10 months ago) Permalink
yeah it's great. that's what confused me, lumping that one in as "serviceable but hardly memorable"
― dmr, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:05 (10 months ago) Permalink
i guess i just mean that it doesn't floor me. not at all bad, but a bit generic in relation to the five i mentioned earlier.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 26 July 2012 17:10 (10 months ago) Permalink
and maybe i'm alone in being a bit indifferent to it
the band practice scene kills me everytime
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 27 July 2012 04:49 (10 months ago) Permalink
http://soundcloud.com/drag-city/ty-segall-the-hill
― dmr, Monday, 13 August 2012 20:05 (10 months ago) Permalink
WOW!! great song
― nostormo, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:36 (9 months ago) Permalink
^^^
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:38 (9 months ago) Permalink
doesn't sound like him and a good , bombastic departure.
― nostormo, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:41 (9 months ago) Permalink
i think it's becoming more clear that this guy is scary good.
how old is he again?
― alpine static, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 19:55 (9 months ago) Permalink
23, 24, something like that?
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:04 (9 months ago) Permalink
oop, 26 according to the guardian
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:05 (9 months ago) Permalink
interesting song not don't think it's much of a departure from like "i bought my eyes" tho, & the whole last album harmonies were laid on p thick
― flopson, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:07 (9 months ago) Permalink
http://pitchfork.com/news/48065-watch-chicago-morning-news-show-anchors-go-nuts-while-ty-segall-plays/
lmao how was he booked onto the WGN morning news show
― dmr, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:28 (8 months ago) Permalink
funny clip
― dmr, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 03:29 (8 months ago) Permalink
Of course he would fuck around
― Evan, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 04:01 (8 months ago) Permalink
i saw him play last week - his set ended abruptly after a shoving match broke out between him and a security guy after Ty tried shoving him into the mosh pit. it was pretty great.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 06:00 (8 months ago) Permalink
this album gonna ROCK:
http://www.prefixmag.com/news/ty-segall-teases-twins-with-yet-another-bizarre-vi/69783/
― nostormo, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 21:38 (8 months ago) Permalink
I still receive digital promos of things from a few PR folks and I weed through them as I can (I will be better about it from now on). While weeding lately I checked out Slaugherhouse and man, was I impressed! I know this guy is prolific and has a ton of projects he lends his sweaty guitar to, and I don't know how deep I will get into his cannon, but this album is so great: fuzz turned all the way up to skronk (sometimes), psych rock done by guys who like metal playing in a garage with egg cartons splattered on the walls and every Pixies record in their album collection.
Found this live clip of my favorite cut from the disc:
My favorite Sonic Youth moments are "Daydream Nation" and "Goo," when they approximate being an actual pop band. This album fits into that same wheelhouse for me.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 18 March 2013 17:22 (3 months ago) Permalink
I finally got TWINS. It's dope. Slaughterhouse is maybe a little bit better but they're close. Twins is probably catchier and Slaughterhouse rocks harder.
Overall MELTED is still consistently my favorite, I'm trying not to turn into a Ty Segall completist since he has so much shit out but I think I need to go back and get that one on vinyl.
― dmr, Monday, 18 March 2013 17:32 (3 months ago) Permalink
It's the only one I own.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 18 March 2013 17:34 (3 months ago) Permalink
Melted is the only one I still don't have, need to track that down.
― i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 March 2013 17:36 (3 months ago) Permalink
dmr otm! Twins is probably the best thing he's done since Melted.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 March 2013 17:45 (3 months ago) Permalink
so expensive though! Drag City's prices are kind of outrageous nowadays. and no download code. is "Drag City Green Label" supposed to be some premium-quality pressing or something?
(DC not having anything on Spotify does make me buy more of their records overall, I will admit.)
― dmr, Monday, 18 March 2013 17:53 (3 months ago) Permalink
best thing he did is srill the collabration with White Fence (hair) imo
― nostormo, Monday, 18 March 2013 20:12 (3 months ago) Permalink
also, sadly, at this point i don't think he got something new to offer.maybe it's because of the over excessive releases lately
― nostormo, Monday, 18 March 2013 20:20 (3 months ago) Permalink
disagree ... it's a lot of records but all three of his 2012 releases hit the spot for me (and all were pretty different from each other)
― dmr, Monday, 18 March 2013 20:44 (3 months ago) Permalink
sort of different. all quality tho.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 March 2013 20:50 (3 months ago) Permalink
How's the singles collection?
― the late great, Monday, 18 March 2013 20:58 (3 months ago) Permalink
the singles collection is great, but if you've only heard stuff from Goodbye Bread on, be prepared for a significantly lower-fi experience. i think you could construct a fantastic 45-minute record our of his three major 2012 releases and it would be an all-time classic.
― i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 March 2013 21:00 (3 months ago) Permalink
i wouldn't go as far as "all time classic", but it will be great.
― nostormo, Monday, 18 March 2013 21:07 (3 months ago) Permalink
i could kill you if you weren't ready for it!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 18 March 2013 21:09 (3 months ago) Permalink
ah?
― nostormo, Monday, 18 March 2013 21:12 (3 months ago) Permalink
lol sorry, "all time classic" as far as Ty's catalog goes.
― i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 March 2013 21:13 (3 months ago) Permalink
maybe it's because of the over excessive releases lately
― nostormo, Monday, March 18, 2013 4:20 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"lately"
― flopson, Monday, 18 March 2013 22:31 (3 months ago) Permalink
i think you could construct a fantastic 45-minute record our of his three major 2012 releases and it would be an all-time classic.
which tracks would you pick? I like him in theory but can never make it very far through one of his records. Finger is the only song of his that ever really stuck in my head. I think White Fence, Oh Sees, Fresh & Onlys are all a lot better but maybe I just haven't found a way into his catalog.
― wk, Monday, 18 March 2013 22:43 (3 months ago) Permalink
just off the top of my head:
from slaughterhouse - the tongue, wave goodbye, tell me what's inside your heartfrom hair - i am not a game, time, easy ryderfrom twins - would you be my love, thank god for the sinners, love fuzz, you're the doctor
― dmr, Monday, 18 March 2013 22:58 (3 months ago) Permalink
the more I think about it Twins is probably the best front to back out of these. it's easier to pick the winners and losers off Slaughterhouse.
― dmr, Monday, 18 March 2013 23:01 (3 months ago) Permalink
and ... i just saw a new one in the store?!
― the late great, Monday, 18 March 2013 23:02 (3 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, I like the Presley songs on Hair. I'll check out those others, thanks.
― wk, Monday, 18 March 2013 23:27 (3 months ago) Permalink
Pretty sure that's a re-issue of his collab album with Mikal Cronin (which is pre the three everyone's talking about)
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 11:02 (2 months ago) Permalink
AMAAAAAAZING pink floyd cover on that record
― The @glennbeck have raisin b-lls and rice crispy d-ck (stevie), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 11:24 (2 months ago) Permalink
galt you are correct
― the late great, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 18:35 (2 months ago) Permalink
and predictably it rules
― the late great, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 16:28 (2 months ago) Permalink
New album out August 20th. This guy is super productive.http://pitchfork.com/news/50747-ty-segall-announces-new-album-sleeper/
― scubasteve, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 17:09 (1 month ago) Permalink
chea
― hoospanic GANGSTER musician (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 17:10 (1 month ago) Permalink