Ty Segall - C or D?

he is about to release a new record with White Fence and i really like both of them.
http://pitchfork.com/news/45928-listen-ty-segallwhite-fence-i-am-not-a-game/

deserves his own thread.

i like him, but not sure i'd call him classic just yet

classic enough to have his name spelled right!
jk -- maybe a mod can fix?

oops..

classic enough to have his name spelled right!

lol. also a fan of his brother, jonathan livingston.

anyway, i like a lot of ty segall's singles and his early albums, seen him live several times, but have slept on his last two full-lengths. the reverse shark attack LP he did with mikal cronin is worth seeking out.

Even though he's young he's release a ton of material and the hit rate is quite impressively high. Maybe not 100% Classic yet, but on his way.

"have slept on his last two full-lengths"

how can anyone sleep during this awesome track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcde6jA2DDs

i've only heard goodbye bread, but like it a lot. seems like a young man full of potential!

singles comp on Goner that came out a few months back is pretty solid

Good timing for this thread cause I dug Lemons out the other day and remember it ruled and was wondering why I only had one record by the guy.

I like his music a lot, but I want to say neither. I've heard one or two Sic Alps records, and as Ty Segall, 'Melted', 'Goodbye Bread', and an EP of T. Rex covers. They all seemed like pure 60s garage psych formalism. And unlike others mining simliar territory--like Jay Reatard or someone--there's not a really strong identity to any of it, or like, emotion, or anything like, *oh my god what is this*. It's more 'what Moby Grape thing or whatever is he riffing on here?' What I get most is, this guy has great taste in rock, he's dedicated enough to recreate what he likes, but he's artistically stalled out, or something.

I like his music, I *really* like his music, but it's classicist, not Classic. Which is probably a totally unfair assessment and I'd love to be proven wrong.

^ there is something there that rings true for me, though i do like ty and his music. i certainly don't buy "classic" vs. "classicist" as an exclusive dichotomy in all cases (i mean, i am a 21st century "garage rock" fan, after all), but i'm nonetheless reminded of the lazy cowgirls' scathing diss of bands who have a record collection more than an identity of their own: "you've got no sound, just a dialect". i think that, at his best, ty's strong enough as a songwriter and as a kick-ass rock 'n roll presence to transcend the shoebox limits of pure psych formalism. but i'm not sure...

it's interesting to listen to "where your mind goes", the tube nostormo just posted, w this debate in mind. i'd say that the verses are formalist and nothing more, but that the chorus melody is "ty's song", the distinctive, personal sound that unifies his best tunes. it's got as much in common w nirvana as it does any psych/garage predecessor. if nothing else, this thread's convinced me that i've gotta spend some time with his last couple LPs.

His sound isn׳t too original but his songwriting is better than most of the other garage
acts around.I guess the universal appeal of it plus the fact he plays
all instruments by himself makes him the ״king״ of the scene by fans.
And he is getting better with each record.

Ty still hasn't topped the first Epsilons record, in my estimation. His fuzztone chords buzztone voice were a great conduit for that band's horror-punk show. His solo records don't seem to have as much to say, like he's shying away from the strictly juvenile horndog howls of "Pantyhose" and "Fever to Kill".

Sorta NFSW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fhxg7SIrao

also: Korg!

yeah, that stuff is great (plus ground zero for segal, mooseheart & kronin), but i don't know that it's really any better than ty solo. sort of a reatards vs jay thing, where the former is way more high energy, but the latter is appealing in other ways. like "the drag" doesn't really kick ass, but it's still a great song. plus the traditional fools:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFPOLkDhOEM&feature=relmfu

^ Totally otm. I'd say I wasn't trying to imply 'classic' and 'classicist' as exclusive categories or a dichotomy or anything, but--and just my own stupid, until now unconsidered bias--I think of classicism/formalism as a kind of artistically weak strategy and therefore it's difficult to consider classicist work 'classic', which I define as 'something great, timeless'. But there's no really good reason to think that, it was just some bias I never really thought about, and also, classicism in rock music is probably makes a lot of sense at this particular moment in time.

You're 100% right about the 90s/Nirvana + psych/garage synthesis, it's hard not to hear it now. There are some 60/70s by way of 90s ideas at work in a lot of his music, esp. on 'Melted'. It's a revival of a revival.

!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwyAGJDRgpI

That was awesome! classic

http://pitchfork.com/news/46193-ty-segall-band-announces-new-album/

the new one is amazing but i still get annoyed paying fifteen bucks for thirty minutes of music

Is his music a pastiche? Yeah! Is it any good? Yeahh! I really cant wait for Slaughterhouse. For me I just like what I like and have little care for critical analysis. Thats why I am such a shit contributor !

so good live

also they're selling every album spread across 5 tapes for 20 bucks at shows, worthwhile investment imo

Even though he's young he's release a ton of material and the hit rate is quite impressively high.

this.

so good live
― flopson, Monday, May 14

just saw him saturday!

Is there a thread about that Ty Segall & White Fence album? It's great!

also they're selling every album spread across 5 tapes for 20 bucks at shows, worthwhile investment imo

Argh! I just looked this up and they were selling the bundle of tapes from Burger Records, but they're all gone.

If I was blown away on first listen by the record w/ White Fence, what Segall should I check out next?

Melted and Lemons are my personal favs.

yeah, melted's p rad.

Melted was indeed rad. Cheers!

If you liked "Hair," you should also get the S/T LP by Mikal Cronin, who is in Ty Segall's band - that album rules.

Yep that Cronin lp from last year is superb. Anybody heard Slaughterhouse yet? I think it comes out next month.

hair is awesome, they started the set with WF dudes & played a few songs off of it (the first two iirc) so 70's though after they got off stage & ty segall band was on it a noticeable blast step back to the 60's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-jSoURjKlM

seeing Ty Segall/White Fence and The Men tonight at Webster Hall, I'm psyched

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the men live show i saw was pretty boring tho

I've never seen em. They are on first so I'm not sure if I'll get there in time anyway.

hoping they have the Hair LP on sale at the show, I'll probably buy it

Really enjoying "Hair" despite not being keen on Ty Segall's previous work. This LP is nothing new but it works really well. Not sure where to start with White Fence but I should check some of his stuff out

Shit, I thought the Men were FANTASTIC when I saw them a couple of months ago! They had a great female bassist with them then who I don't think is in the band anymore. But they were totally ferocious; the drummer's a monster.

bassist when i saw them was just some douchey looking guy with a haircut

best show I have seen in aaaaaaages

missed the Men. Strange Boys were boring. White Fence was good. Ty Segall fucking RIPPED. seriously awesome.

he came out with White Fence to do Long Black Curtain but I think that was the only song they did off "Hair." other than that they each had separate sets.

one of Ty Segall's encores was a cover of Gimme Some Money by the Thamesmen, from Spinal Tap. lolol.

all the stuff from Melted sounded incredible. Girlfriend and Finger were probably my favorites of the set.

:-D

Ty Segall was great. Missed everything else due to a transport fail but this felt like a christening. Crowd going nuts. Big, crowded NY room. He's on his waaaaay!

also lol @ this upthread:

guy with a haircut

^everyone has a haircut^

-_- u know what i mean

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FI6arVcAD0k/S4JTwA3EHNI/AAAAAAAAAW8/4ftS1Tuvolw/hair.jpg

this guy doesn't have a haircut

so we can eliminate him as the bassist.

their touring drummer is Emily Epstein -- she's been playing drums for Ty for a few years -- she moved down to LA last year

Ty Segall is a very good drummer though

totes

Super solid fun record! Drags a bit in spots maybe - but good dirty sound, really hooky tunes - almost verging on a scrappy sprightly version of Deep Purple or Sabbath riffage. I haven't heard everything, but Manipulator seems like a breakthrough of sorts.

Seems like everyone very keen to tag this as ' break through' when it actually appears to be struggling for any more traction than previous records. Everyone seems to get that he is a solid songwriter but he does not seem to have found X FaCtor song. Not that I think that is necessarily some kind of noble goal to crave or is necessary but it is curious to me how much of the narrative around this record is about taking things to the ' next level'

It does seem like a bit more thought out and cohesive and tuneful record than others to me - and maybe a bit more conventional. I don't think anyone really expects a huge hit record out of the guy.

Seems like everyone very keen to tag this as ' break through' when it actually appears to be struggling for any more traction than previous records. Everyone seems to get that he is a solid songwriter but he does not seem to have found X FaCtor song. Not that I think that is necessarily some kind of noble goal to crave or is necessary but it is curious to me how much of the narrative around this record is about taking things to the ' next level'

― Hinklepicker, Friday, October 24, 2014 4:20 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fwiw,I wanted to go see hij
m recently and he instantly sold out a club he'd played before to solid but far from sold out crowd, also have a couple of friends who are into more commercial band like black keys, qotsa, etc get into him now

Oh well sounds like he is doing better with thiS than I thought then. Good for him.

it might be more momentum than the last album specifically, but i'm hearing a lot more friends/coworkers talking about the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-72_Ya5Ec

fuzz II is pretty dope

still waiting for my copy from in the red.

It's streaming on the NPR website (for a couple more days until the official release):

http://www.npr.org/2015/10/14/444448267/first-listen-fuzz-ii

loving the fuzz II

I like Mikal Cronin's last two records a lot more than any of this stuff

Hmm... I tried one Mikal Cronin song on Youtube. It was OK I guess, but it didn't sound anything like Fuzz. I was a bit skeptical if I needed a double-album's worth of more Fuzz but I ended up listening all the way through to the NPR stream.

Cronin's debut is excellent, heavy Segall-strafed power-pop. His second was pleasant, but I found the third dull, though I didn't listen to it enough to be fair. He's no Ty.

http://emotionalmugger.com

Oh mama..

killer cover of the equals' diversion on the new album

streaming via npr

sounds great.

Interesting production. Kinda new wave Devo doing garage. Melodies might be the downside.we shall see..

Not really feeling this and I'm a pretty big fan.

melodies problem confirmed.

got a new band lineup, recorded with steve albini apparently

never really listened to him before tonight, i got the death by audio 3xLP and it came with a 12" of his first show in new york in 2008. it's rad- i love the context and the vibe- not many people there, crowd chatting a bit, segall says he's psyched to be in new york. dude has a massive discography, what's a good place to start?

imo can't go wrong with anything from 2009 to 2014

reverse shark attack, melted, goodbye bread, twins, hair, slaughterhouse, manipulator are all great

Melted's a great starting place, also the Singles comp on Goner, or the live at Aisle 5 LP.

Melted is what got me hooked.

^^^

https://tysegall.bandcamp.com/track/the-main-pretender

Great new song. Back to Glam Rock!

Works for me.

Stream thy last stream:

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/18/578405537/first-listen-ty-segall-freedom-s-goblin

i'm liking this.

Awesome new song,60's psych/The Who style jam:

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/ty-segall-white-fence-good-boy/

the album is v a quick one/sell out

like, almost ridiculously so

how is it a sell out

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/The_who_sell_out_album_front.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d3/A_quick_one.jpg

Sell Out indeed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fS2q1mhmFk

love it

"freedom's goblin" is a terrific album. i wouldn't have even bothered checking it out but a co-worker put it on and now i can't stop listening. it goes so many different and wonderful places! and the songwriting is really stellar. leagues beyond the yelps and hackneyed "psych" tropes i've come to expect from him, john dwyer et al.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRar5omqQpI

His covers album is really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts1RfaK_FXg

I thought the covers album was really boring, like a high school covers band. Ty at his best is brilliant - Freedom's Goblin often is. But Fudge Sandwich felt like a certain period of Robert Pollard stuff, where he's more into making "product" than actual good records (tho the Lennon cover was strong).

https://ew.com/music/2019/07/31/ty-segall-guitar-first-taste-interview/

New album is devoid of guitars

If I hadn't read about the lack of guitars beforehand, I'm not sure I would have guessed from listening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Ek1alZh8Y&feature=emb_title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Ek1alZh8Y

Harmonizer is pretty good, I like the glossy glam vibe.

This guy has kind of fallen off the ilx radar a little it seems, new one ("Hello, Hi") is another really good one. Mostly acoustic, pretty chill, but still filled with gems.