WHAT A DRAG IT IS GETTING POLLED – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones (Extended deadline: April 1st)

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"Dead Flowers" was high on my ballot. Overall, Sticky Fingers is my least favourite of the Hopkins/Taylor four-album run, but it produced two of my top five. (The other being the most obvious one.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Will rep for Sister Morphine and Moonlight Mile

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sticky Fingers is not among my favorites but Brown Sugar and Moonlight Mile are the biggest songs ever

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Contenderizer had a good post last night on the comedy-poll thread delineating the difference between Taxi Driver and Tarantino's films in terms of comedy and tone. (I was being a little disingenuous when I asked where the line should be drawn; I think I was trying to force someone to articulate clearly the difference.) I'd draw the same distinction between "Far Away Eyes" and "Dead Flowers." "Far Away Eyes" is just straight laughs for me--it's a nice song, and I like it, but its appeal begins and ends with the broad parody. Jagger slips into the same voice on "Dead Flowers" (less broad, which is one advantage), but I consider it a much darker, more vivid song. Even though I know that "I'll be in my basement room/with a needle and a spoon/and another girl to the pain away" is, in itself, a bit of a caricature of the Rolling Stones' image circa 1971, the line, and the whole song, actually does encapsulate why they seemed so mysterious and grown-up to me when I discovered them around that time.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Agreed. Jagger's injection of humor into "Dead Flowers" makes it more moving

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Jagger may have been taking the piss out of Gram Parsons a bit, too; supposedly, he was acutely jealous of Parsons' friendship with Keith.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

The "so I ran 20 red lights in your honor, thank you Jesus, thank you Lord" line makes me laugh every time

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Unexpectedly fallen in love with ... Dance (pt I) from Emotional Rescue

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

KEEF
WHATCHOO
WHATCHOO DOIN

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Was listening to Sticky Fingers in the car on the way into work this morning - 'Dead Flowers' really is a perfect singing at the top of your lungs song.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

also vv easy and fun to play

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Made a couple of last minute changes and sent my ballot. The deed is done!

Whiney Houson (WmC), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Unexpectedly fallen in love with ... Dance (pt I) from Emotional Rescue"

Try listening to Led Zep's "Trampled Under Foot" while watching an episode of Welcome Back Kotter. Same thing! (Guess what song made my most hated list?)

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Trampled Underfoot was exactly what I was thinking. There are a few other yacht rock type influences buried in there too though, it's a smoother listen than Zep.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dance has an awesome groove but a) the vocals sound like they were recorded via a sewer drain across the street from the studio and b) Kieth's voice is a little, 'yeesh'.

It's not quite right. But almost great.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

The vocals are awesome! I love that kind of slurry shoutalong. I cannot imagine hearing it in a club though - was supposedly a big dance hit at the time.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

could you ask for a better 'selective discography'?
...
Keith Richards: Talk Is Cheap

Love this record so much. I still say it's by far the best Stones record of the 80s. The caliber of guest musicians is ridiculous: Bobby Keys, sure, but also Mick Taylor...and Johnnie Johnson! Maceo Parker! Bootsy Collins! Sarah Dash!

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

i love "dead flowers" and am starting to feel like a bozo for leaving it off my ballot. i couldn't get it out of my head as i fell asleep last night, and VG otm: it's one of the best "sing along at the top of your lungs" songs ever, fake haccent and all. i mean, i'm sure it'll do just fine w/o my vote cuz you people seem p sharp, but i'm nevertheless experiencing a twinge of voter's regret.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

need to hear talk is cheap, i guess. never have.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Jagger slips into the same voice on "Dead Flowers" (less broad, which is one advantage), but I consider it a much darker, more vivid song. Even though I know that "I'll be in my basement room/with a needle and a spoon/and another girl to the pain away" is, in itself, a bit of a caricature of the Rolling Stones' image circa 1971, the line, and the whole song, actually does encapsulate why they seemed so mysterious and grown-up to me when I discovered them around that time.

just gonna come out and say it - this will be my #1 and is really the only ballot entry I'm certain of. I like to envision it as a song Jagger is singing to his future self.

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Did you ever see the Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Horrible isn't it? ... oh no, don't saw off me leg, don't saw off me arm

This is awesome!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's only been mentioned once so far, but for me this stands alongside "I Am Waiting" as their prettiest song ever:

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

The lyrics, not so much LOL

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

one of the their best but pretty is a wrong word.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxpost Tarfumes otm: Talk is Cheap is great! Love it. Took me a while to get used to Keith's singing just bc the sound is still kinda Stones and you're waiting for Mick, but once you get over that, damn it's good stuff.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

re "backstreet girl": a sad & bitter little song, but undeniably lovely

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

was there a single from Talk is Cheap? i think i remember liking it when it came out.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Take It So Hard was the single

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp At the time, I preferred Keith's singing to Mick's. But that was mainly because Mick had just put out those two crappy solo records ("Let's Work" was on MTV far more frequently than it had any right to be, which is to say, more than once), and the way he sang "competition" in "Winning Ugly" made me think, that guy there, if he doesn't stop it, man...

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hadn't even thought about the lyrics--the music is so perfect for me, I don't think I've ever given them a thought.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

the way he sang "competition" in "Winning Ugly" made me think, that guy there, if he doesn't stop it, man...

haha we won't agree will we?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

I kinda wish Keith had done an earlier solo album, because his voice was so much brighter...by the time Talk is Cheap came around he's sounding a little more ragged than I'd like.

but I still love him.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp I actually like that song now, but some of Jagger's 80s vocal quirks make me cringe.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Where's the Hyde Park "Bitch" youtube?

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

scroll up; it's the whole show

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

"bitch" is the 2nd to last song

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

stick around for "brown sugar" though, it's amazing

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I must be an idiot but I keep looking through the thread and not seeing it? I see the Marquee Club one, but not Hyde Park

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh, that vid is sometimes titled "marquee club/hyde park", not sure why

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's Marquee Club, that's the link above.

Hyde Park is a totally different show, it was outdoors iirc?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

can always count on you tyler <3

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm really looking forward to this poll but i'm not doing a ballot i just can't deal with it so soon after the bowie one and this would be even harder, god help me if we do a neil young one

these come so fast and furious! we need to take brand nubian's advice and slow down.

the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually that reminds me, sort of a sidetrack but does anyone have any recommendations for good live stuff to check out? official or bootleg, I'm easy. I haven't dug much into their live stuff.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Brussels Affair" from stonesarchive.com has some supersonic shit on it. Also, Perth and Sydney '73 boots are ace. Taylor fucking kills on those.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

m@tt otm that one week is a really agonizingly short amount of time to contemplate catalogs this huge and rich. but then anytime someone gives a poll a 2 or 3 week window people freak out about how they won't get to do their Letter To Cleo tracks poll until November.

some dude, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost <3 <3 thank you Tarfumes!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost the hell you're not >:[

Get on that ballot, soldier. If you don't do this you'll regret it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday (say, day three of results) and for the rest of your life.

Just do it fast, like ripping off a band-aid.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

DON'T BE SUCH A BABY

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

:D

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink


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